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November 06, 2017, 06:25:39 PM
This sounds like a dream that may never come true no matter how nice it may sound. A taxless and free society is something lots of people will want but I think tax is very important in any country as it helps to regulate wealth.
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October 15, 2017, 10:48:03 PM
There is no such thing a a free society, a society with no rules.Even if you abolish all the laws by default there would be a supreme one, the law of the jungle where the one with power will beat the ass of the weaker one. Enjoy the 11k bc scenario.

The meanest one around becomes king and the cycle repeats. Paradise for those that want their heart's darkest desires go wild.
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October 15, 2017, 10:29:48 PM
I think that it is a good news. If there will a country like that exists. I will sell all my asset to buy land in there. That's really a heaven. Grin
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October 15, 2017, 08:41:57 PM
Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia.

Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xws

What do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested?

Taxation finances the government to supply its operational costs. A country with poor system of taxation never progresses quickly. No likes paying taxes, but then you also benefit from it. I know some governments in other countries are corrupt and shouldn't be trusted, but it's not the reason to hate paying tax. It's an obligation for keeping everything in order.
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October 15, 2017, 08:27:09 PM
Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia.

Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xws

What do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested?
Maybe you should first try to understand the main concept of taxation. We pay taxes to finance the government. The government needs its finance to do its duties. There is no perfect government; corruption is born in every generation so just suck it up. There's no perfect system even that tax-less nation. If a country like that will ever born, I don't think it will last. Because 1, where it will get its finance. 2, how secured is that country (in economic, international relation, and military context). 3, how will it regulate its citizens?
I completely agree. His concept is a utopia, it sounds good in theory but cannot be put in practice for a variety of reasons. No taxes means no funds for the government, which means no insurance, no education or health support and so on. Even if you erase the concept of a government and just have a "Society", it's impossible. Sociology claims that without government/superior control, people would live like animals in a jungle. Unless it's implied that they are planning to live like the natives.

Exactly, i know that taxes is a big pain in the a** but of course government need funds to operate. I know some countries in the middle east that has a zero tax policy but of course they bleed oil once that oil supply runs out of course they will impose tax on their people. It is great to have these type of dream but in reality it is quite impossible.
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October 15, 2017, 05:37:22 PM
Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia.

Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xws

What do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested?
Maybe you should first try to understand the main concept of taxation. We pay taxes to finance the government. The government needs its finance to do its duties. There is no perfect government; corruption is born in every generation so just suck it up. There's no perfect system even that tax-less nation. If a country like that will ever born, I don't think it will last. Because 1, where it will get its finance. 2, how secured is that country (in economic, international relation, and military context). 3, how will it regulate its citizens?
I completely agree. His concept is a utopia, it sounds good in theory but cannot be put in practice for a variety of reasons. No taxes means no funds for the government, which means no insurance, no education or health support and so on. Even if you erase the concept of a government and just have a "Society", it's impossible. Sociology claims that without government/superior control, people would live like animals in a jungle. Unless it's implied that they are planning to live like the natives.
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October 15, 2017, 04:38:33 PM
Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia.

Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xws

What do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested?
This is utopia and it is not possible because no society ever survives without the citizenry giving back as tax to the government. How is the government going to survive without that. Except OP is saying the scenario exists without any known jurisdiction and in a state of no law?
I think it's fine with me because I want to have a free society and at the same time it is taxless. I can see how the world changes slowly with bitcoin so there is a big possibility if this will happen to us all. We all know that tax is from our own money that circulates to everything and to use for the maintenance of the road,help other workers specially those climate victims but if we do it for ourselves to donate and support only people's movement for a particular thing that needs our small help then we can do it. Tax is a burden to us everyday because when we eat,buy groceries,go shopping and the like it always have taxes. So I agree with the idea of a Taxless and a free society.
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October 15, 2017, 04:18:12 PM
A taxless lawless land with no real leadership may sound good on paper, but in the real world it won't work and will descend into chaos. Potentially good, but it depends on how it is structured.
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October 15, 2017, 02:42:20 AM
This is a very ambitious project that I hope will become reality as soon as possible. In a more realistic view, though, I think it's very unlikely to happen. Something similar was planned to be in Liberland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland. Yet no government recognized this state.
legendary
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October 15, 2017, 01:04:55 AM
no, i am not interested because i am comfortable living in my country with my family and people around. if they really want to build a truly tax-free society, they can take people in a troubled country as a form of help from them, so they can build a new nation.

poor countries is also a source of cheap labor...cheap labor is needed to build infrastructures, roads and other essentials to life, power, water, internet. etc.. etc..
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October 15, 2017, 12:49:45 AM
no, i am not interested because i am comfortable living in my country with my family and people around. if they really want to build a truly tax-free society, they can take people in a troubled country as a form of help from them, so they can build a new nation.
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October 15, 2017, 12:27:24 AM
This is a good step and good vision. Because many people are excited here especially those who know bitcoins and cryptos. But I'm sure that it's going to take some time now so many countries still do not make the bitcoins and crypto legal. So we are really going to have to push it as a money and become a cashless society and the whole world
Whaaaaat.. no this is not how will society will grow if they dont have taxes that is used to make their country stable and to grow their economy..
Money is life for now you can't do if you do not have money..


Well taxes aren't all that there is to build a country after all there are a lot of countries that are tax free. Take the gulf countries  for instance; they are being built with their oil reserves and not taxes the same can also be done with agriculture or any natural resources without taxes so i will suggest to the lazy governments to find new ways of building their economies rather than impose heavy taxes on it's citizenry.

Yes Man .I don't know what the government doing with the collecting taxes.Nothing. Bull shit.I was in Gulf country. Here no taxes are collect from the Employee. The are free to pay tax.All they work will make their family grow fast .Our Government is not depend on people's money .So like us all country's government should make free of tax.
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October 15, 2017, 12:18:06 AM
This is a good step and good vision. Because many people are excited here especially those who know bitcoins and cryptos. But I'm sure that it's going to take some time now so many countries still do not make the bitcoins and crypto legal. So we are really going to have to push it as a money and become a cashless society and the whole world
Whaaaaat.. no this is not how will society will grow if they dont have taxes that is used to make their country stable and to grow their economy..
Money is life for now you can't do if you do not have money..


Well taxes aren't all that there is to build a country after all there are a lot of countries that are tax free. Take the gulf countries  for instance; they are being built with their oil reserves and not taxes the same can also be done with agriculture or any natural resources without taxes so i will suggest to the lazy governments to find new ways of building their economies rather than impose heavy taxes on it's citizenry.
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October 14, 2017, 11:02:00 PM
This is a good step and good vision. Because many people are excited here especially those who know bitcoins and cryptos. But I'm sure that it's going to take some time now so many countries still do not make the bitcoins and crypto legal. So we are really going to have to push it as a money and become a cashless society and the whole world
Whaaaaat.. no this is not how will society will grow if they dont have taxes that is used to make their country stable and to grow their economy..
Money is life for now you can't do if you do not have money..
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October 14, 2017, 10:48:57 PM
Let me know if they will succeed in makinga society that is free. Hahahahhha nowadays MONEY is important if you do not have then you'll probably gonna die
Accept the fact that there will be no free now
If this will succed then i will congratulate them but this is very hard to do
Aba
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October 14, 2017, 10:28:25 PM
Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia.

Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xws

What do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested?
Good idea, but building a country is not the same as building a property, there are many aspects to consider. and if it is successfully executed then many people will migrate to the country.
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October 14, 2017, 10:03:44 PM
Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia.

Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xws

What do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested?
Such a society is a mirrage. No tax means no ruling a free society but with freedom comes nuisance too. Have you ever seen a class in discipline without a teacher??  Then how can we expect such a country without any ruler or observer?

Every extreme isn't good. A total free society doesn't work, people should try to find balance on their lifes instead of going through extreme paths that won't return any positive result. Ideas like this are always appearing, but until now I haven't seen anything successful. One thing is to ask for less taxes and fair fees, another thing is to ask for a chaotic anarchy.
sr. member
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October 14, 2017, 09:43:18 PM
Roger Ver is announcing that he's working together with a team to build a completely free society by buying off land in US/Europe or Asia.

Live stream was here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSF52B90xws

What do you think, can this new country be born? Could we move there in 2-3 years? Would you be interested?
Such a society is a mirrage. No tax means no ruling a free society but with freedom comes nuisance too. Have you ever seen a class in discipline without a teacher??  Then how can we expect such a country without any ruler or observer?
legendary
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October 14, 2017, 09:39:15 PM
the idea is as bold as starting a decentralize currency (like bitcoin)...watching..

good luck, someday i wish i could go to a place like that Cheesy
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