Topic: Taxless society idea (Read 2964 times)
The author's idea is "holy". Just one question - what does the author dislike about the taxation system? There are no ideal models and never will be. The ideal community is UTOPIA. Read works on this topic from Thomas More (Libellus vere aureus, nec minus salutaris quam festivus, de optimo rei publicae statu deque nova insula Utopia) to Marx, Engels, Bloch, Marcuse, Popper ...
Forced spending on government-controlled inflated money is just another form of taxation.
I find it even worse than the current because now you still have places with low or zero taxation.
I find it even worse than the current because now you still have places with low or zero taxation.
Despite the fact that This is an old topic, the question is very relevant even today and I would like users to express their opinion on this issue as much as possible.
How the state budget will be filled, as well as at what expense all social guarantees will be carried out, as well as how structures and government services will work if no one are not taxed. Although, ideally, the tax should be paid by businessmen who have bought all strategic enterprises and use the country's energy resources.
I believe that this issue requires a fairly serious and thorough discussion. Of course, we all don't like the taxes the government has imposed on us. But most of all, those who are dissatisfied with taxes are those people who live in countries that are still just developing, because people live in poverty, and the state demands to pay for anything and it really infuriates. But there is another side of the coin and As an example, we can cite several countries where taxes are very high, but at the same time social guarantees are at a high level, and wages allow people not only to pay taxes, but also to live like a "real well-off person."How the state budget will be filled, as well as at what expense all social guarantees will be carried out, as well as how structures and government services will work if no one are not taxed. Although, ideally, the tax should be paid by businessmen who have bought all strategic enterprises and use the country's energy resources.
Also we need to notice that more and more countries are transforming into socialst countries these days. In a social country the government is getting more and more power, not less at the moment. Even though it sounds nice at first if there will be more benefits for everybody, these benefits don't come for free. Without taxes the government wouldn't really be able to afford all the benefits. This is the main reason why I don't think it is very realistic at the moment to see taxless societies. It might work for a small rich country, but not for everybody.
Despite the fact that This is an old topic, the question is very relevant even today and I would like users to express their opinion on this issue as much as possible.
How the state budget will be filled, as well as at what expense all social guarantees will be carried out, as well as how structures and government services will work if no one are not taxed. Although, ideally, the tax should be paid by businessmen who have bought all strategic enterprises and use the country's energy resources.
I believe that this issue requires a fairly serious and thorough discussion. Of course, we all don't like the taxes the government has imposed on us. But most of all, those who are dissatisfied with taxes are those people who live in countries that are still just developing, because people live in poverty, and the state demands to pay for anything and it really infuriates. But there is another side of the coin and As an example, we can cite several countries where taxes are very high, but at the same time social guarantees are at a high level, and wages allow people not only to pay taxes, but also to live like a "real well-off person." How the state budget will be filled, as well as at what expense all social guarantees will be carried out, as well as how structures and government services will work if no one are not taxed. Although, ideally, the tax should be paid by businessmen who have bought all strategic enterprises and use the country's energy resources.
Despite the fact that This is an old topic, the question is very relevant even today and I would like users to express their opinion on this issue as much as possible.
How the state budget will be filled, as well as at what expense all social guarantees will be carried out, as well as how structures and government services will work if no one are not taxed. Although, ideally, the tax should be paid by businessmen who have bought all strategic enterprises and use the country's energy resources.
How the state budget will be filled, as well as at what expense all social guarantees will be carried out, as well as how structures and government services will work if no one are not taxed. Although, ideally, the tax should be paid by businessmen who have bought all strategic enterprises and use the country's energy resources.
Taxless society can be implemented whenever the country fulfill their all the needs. I just want to say that it is just a dream which will never be seen in real life. Because government needs taxes otherwise the operations from government can't work. Government has different ministry and they work for the people. So have need to pay them and they will get it from taxes. Many works rather than this are happening from taxes. Many development works run from taxes money.
Taxless society is just a dream. How can government run a place without tax. How can they support the people's needs and do infrastructure projects. If there is no tax no projects will run.
You can't have a taxless society because you can't have an anarchistic society. There are too many people who are inherently mal-intented to rely on the good nature of large groups of people to get along without a government to mete out consequences to the bad actors. Humankind started in a state of anarchy (no government) and government evolved as a necessary part of a stable society. Without government, you wouldn't have societal stability, and you can't have government without taxes. Therefore, a taxless society isn't possible in any practical sense.
Yeah, government is always after the taxes they can get from the people. So, I will not be surprised if one day bitcoin or cryptocurrency will also be taxed in any way that the government knows.
Apart from a handful of countries, everywhere else you need to pay taxes on their gains from various investments. Cryptocurrency is no different from the other assets, and in case you are profiting form investments in crypto, then you need to pay taxes on those gains, as specified by the tax authority. In this way, the government also benefits from Bitcoin.
Taxless society is just a dream. How can government run a place without tax. How can they support the people's needs and do infrastructure projects. If there is no tax no projects will run.
It is an essential need of a country, without it, it will never run and develop. It is true that we are using crypto currencies here but I don't think that also means that we don't pay taxes, I have a job and the government are getting taxes from me. I am buying goods which have VAT, all I'm saying is that it is already everywhere, the reason why it is like bitcoin and crypto currencies are the only ones where we can earn freely.
will that solve the problem? from what I observed you will change your money from fiat to crypto so that it is not taxed. It's not that easy, if you depend your money on crypto assets, what happens if you choose the wrong coin so that the impact of the price drop is greater than the cost of taxes? you will lose. as a good citizen, you should still pay taxes in order to advance the country
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Taxless society is just a dream. How can government run a place without tax. How can they support the people's needs and do infrastructure projects. If there is no tax no projects will run.
Yeah, government is always after the taxes they can get from the people. So, I will not be surprised if one day bitcoin or cryptocurrency will also be taxed in any way that the government knows.
Taxless society is just a dream. How can government run a place without tax. How can they support the people's needs and do infrastructure projects. If there is no tax no projects will run.
The idea of a public life without taxes is very often discussed and even becomes the desire of many people, this is also a very old idea. Some people consider taxes to be only a form of extortion from the government, because the government by its policies forms regulations that oblige all citizens to pay taxes. However, without taxes. How can the state be built? OP put forward an idea that looks simple in his writing, but his life is real, it's even very complex. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies can save your fortune from taxes for now, maybe it is. However, crypto will not be able to remove worldwide taxes. It's just an impossible dream.
Taxless society is just a dream. How can government run a place without tax. How can they support the people's needs and do infrastructure projects. If there is no tax no projects will run.
Cryptocurrency is not an exemption of being taxless but it could save you from tax compared to using fiat currency. FYI, cryptocurrency still take some deductions every time you make transactions. Well, that is part of the transaction paying service of the miners to confirm transaction making it in accordance with how the transaction will be made that will be agreed to everyone. We know that cryptocurrency is using a certain network which makes it a peer to peer network.
It sounds good if we live in a country without taxes, but the reality is that it is difficult to carry out the idea. Because surely the country
must be prosperous and have a large income. So the price of food and goods can be very expensive, so the government can exempt taxes
on its residents. Very rarely countries that do not impose taxes, because indeed tax is an important instrument in advancing the country.
So in my opinion it is appropriate for the country to impose taxes, but its use must be improved, because most countries do not use taxes
efficiently and correctly.
must be prosperous and have a large income. So the price of food and goods can be very expensive, so the government can exempt taxes
on its residents. Very rarely countries that do not impose taxes, because indeed tax is an important instrument in advancing the country.
So in my opinion it is appropriate for the country to impose taxes, but its use must be improved, because most countries do not use taxes
efficiently and correctly.
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If left up to central banks, they'll just do as they please.
In theory a FIAT standard can hold good for decades but invariably times change and the easiest path is to devalue currency in order to pay bills. The best bet when in this situation is to rate those most able to pay, a country with a good trade balance and natural assets is more likely to order debts and currency value. Also its natural for a country that exports alot to have good currency value as there is high demand for that currency in order to take part in trade. Its very often the case that a country unable to export in equal measure to their imports suffers greatly in the currency and holding that currency or debt denominated in that currency is a bad bet.
Bitcoin has no backing in this way and its why many doubt and rate it to fail long term but it hasnt happened yet due to excessive failure elsewhere. If we had harsh competition it would drastically alter the pricing for Bitcoin I think, as the world is in transition now and probably for decades I imagine BTC will be required and do well but its still a fair criticism to say it has no direct link to trade from any particular country but online business is still expanding so Im not as concerned for now.
The idea is nice but I don't think it's feasible. Because with inflation, even if the extra amount is used as tax, it will just not be worth as one would not find their output equaling to the input they are giving, as in the economy will go downwards at an individual level. Hence I think the present system of taxation is quite good even if the tax isn't really used in an efficient way which if it was done would have been great.
Government runs on taxes on people and business entities that also provide contributions that serves as a collective funds for the development of the road and highways, building public schools, hospitals and any government facilities that will give free services to people and it's also needed for calamity funds if any disasters happened in the country. So, I don't think we can have a taxless society because it is necessities and really important on how government can govern the people's needs.
Indeed. There is no way for the government to approve or let a taxless society be implemented because without taxes, there will be no free education, free medication in public establishments, and to provide goods and services for the citizens' benefit in a country. Even there are issues about governments stealing from taxes; taxes are still important for every person's daily needs that it is impossible for everyone to live without it.
Government runs on taxes on people and business entities that also provide contributions that serves as a collective funds for the development of the road and highways, building public schools, hospitals and any government facilities that will give free services to people and it's also needed for calamity funds if any disasters happened in the country. So, I don't think we can have a taxless society because it is necessities and really important on how government can govern the people's needs.
Since historical times the govt has been imposing taxes on the people. the govt cannot function without taxes. The people are motivated by the budget on the idea of adequate taxes. The damage done to the country by the govt alone can never be recovered. government revenue has decreased, expenditure has increased for this reason, the govt is taking the foremost loans from the banking industry. the govt will spend money on loans by increasing the quantity of interest and VAT.
This is what I was going to say. The government creates wealth for themselves through the loan and increase VAT for the national populace to pay for deregulation and the OP is hellbent on how taxes should be eliminated from the society? It is actually very impossible. Without the taxes the government can't function by maintaining the expensive lifestyles of a particular place that generates revenue either by tourism or by direct taxations. We'd still be thrilled when cryptocurrencies someday eliminates taxes.
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