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legendary
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November 19, 2024, 04:39:16 PM

With the exception of Alcaraz when he is fit I can see anybody at Sinner's level ATM.
OK he has been beaten 6 times this year but he has won 70 games and claimed 7 titles including
2 GS.

Alcaraz is on a 53-13 win/loss ratio with only 4 titles including 2 GS -  that means all the GS were
won by 2 players, and you know what I believe thats how its going for the next few years
-more-or-less-

Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years -  hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I think there is nothing wrong about having outstanding figures representing the sport on a certain level of excellence globally. If you take the Federer, Djokovic, Nadal time as an example, I think it did anything but hurt the sport to spread in popularity. Messi and Ronaldo did the same for football and Schumacher once did it for Formula 1. If there is this one or there are these two invincible guys, it does have some appeal in my opinion. Fans are always excited to see new challengers coming up, trying to dethrone the best of the best. Since it is not a team sport, I think there is something that catches the attention of the masses. It's different when PSG wins the Ligue 1 10 years in a row. That's boring because the team is getting pumped with money nonstop. But in 1vs.1 sports, money doesn't make that much of a difference, especially in tennis. What can you do? Buy the most expensive racket or shoes? Get a better doctor than others. But at the end of the day it comes down to the talent, the training and the ability to get these things onto the tennis court and deliver. That's what Federer, Djokovic and Nadal did and that was what got the masses thrilled about the sport.

I take your views and TBH they all sound very reasonable. Sinner and Alcaraz
are already doing great things for the sport. Already Sinners matches are
commanding bigger viewership than some top Serie A football matches, that
has to have a knock on affect for Tennis in Italy in the future. I'm sure for Alcaraz
and Spanish Tennis too.

I know when I was following F1 back in the 90's early 00's when Schumacher was
at his peak and winning everything....for me it became too predictable and
I switched off - obviously I wasnt a Schumacher fan.

I hope it doesnt become like that for Tennis with only 2 top players dominating the scene.

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Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years -  hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I am confident that other crazy players will pop out in the coming future. 10-15 years is a long range of time in this sport.
Kid actually watching Sinner on tv could easily play against him in 10 -15 years.

For sure Alcaraz is the unique player able to fight against Sinner. Fritz was able to score some points but that's all. Djokovic? probably he will try to win some of the last match against Sinner but there is already a difference with shape and physical condition, that can just be worst in the long time.

Italian Tennis is in an absolute fantastic state, particularly in 2024, Sinner,
Sonego and Musetti, Paolini and Errani taking Gold in Olympics doubles, its all good.

I would like to see Fritz coming up and being part of the top 3, it would be better
if there was a top 5 or 6, imagine the epic battles between them all?
legendary
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November 19, 2024, 08:27:40 AM
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Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years -  hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I am confident that other crazy players will pop out in the coming future. 10-15 years is a long range of time in this sport.
Kid actually watching Sinner on tv could easily play against him in 10 -15 years.

For sure Alcaraz is the unique player able to fight against Sinner. Fritz was able to score some points but that's all. Djokovic? probably he will try to win some of the last match against Sinner but there is already a difference with shape and physical condition, that can just be worst in the long time.
legendary
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November 19, 2024, 07:44:53 AM

With the exception of Alcaraz when he is fit I can see anybody at Sinner's level ATM.
OK he has been beaten 6 times this year but he has won 70 games and claimed 7 titles including
2 GS.

Alcaraz is on a 53-13 win/loss ratio with only 4 titles including 2 GS -  that means all the GS were
won by 2 players, and you know what I believe thats how its going for the next few years
-more-or-less-

Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years -  hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I think there is nothing wrong about having outstanding figures representing the sport on a certain level of excellence globally. If you take the Federer, Djokovic, Nadal time as an example, I think it did anything but hurt the sport to spread in popularity. Messi and Ronaldo did the same for football and Schumacher once did it for Formula 1. If there is this one or there are these two invincible guys, it does have some appeal in my opinion. Fans are always excited to see new challengers coming up, trying to dethrone the best of the best. Since it is not a team sport, I think there is something that catches the attention of the masses. It's different when PSG wins the Ligue 1 10 years in a row. That's boring because the team is getting pumped with money nonstop. But in 1vs.1 sports, money doesn't make that much of a difference, especially in tennis. What can you do? Buy the most expensive racket or shoes? Get a better doctor than others. But at the end of the day it comes down to the talent, the training and the ability to get these things onto the tennis court and deliver. That's what Federer, Djokovic and Nadal did and that was what got the masses thrilled about the sport.
legendary
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November 18, 2024, 09:21:39 AM
Sinner in unplayable at the moment.
He is much stronger than anyone else.
He destroyed the number 5 in the world in the final for 6-4 6-4 with almost 20 aces done.

Lets see if the following ear he can go for all the slams.

This year his earning with sponsor were near 50mil $ according to the televisions...

well, in this competition ATP finals he has been very lucky because Djokovic was not present by the scratch and Alcaraz was eliminated.
Both players are the only that can really try to fight against him. For sure, Sinner in a good shape without healthy issue is always a big problem for any player around here.
And he is only 23 years old... I was pretty sure of his success Roll Eyes after Nike decide to pay 100 millions of dollars in 10 years to him...


With the exception of Alcaraz when he is fit I can see anybody at Sinner's level ATM.
OK he has been beaten 6 times this year but he has won 70 games and claimed 7 titles including
2 GS.

Alcaraz is on a 53-13 win/loss ratio with only 4 titles including 2 GS -  that means all the GS were
won by 2 players, and you know what I believe thats how its going for the next few years
-more-or-less-

Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years -  hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.
legendary
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November 18, 2024, 03:46:56 AM
Sinner in unplayable at the moment.
He is much stronger than anyone else.
He destroyed the number 5 in the world in the final for 6-4 6-4 with almost 20 aces done.

Lets see if the following ear he can go for all the slams.

This year his earning with sponsor were near 50mil $ according to the televisions...

well, in this competition ATP finals he has been very lucky because Djokovic was not present by the scratch and Alcaraz was eliminated.
Both players are the only that can really try to fight against him. For sure, Sinner in a good shape without healthy issue is always a big problem for any player around here.
And he is only 23 years old... I was pretty sure of his success Roll Eyes after Nike decide to pay 100 millions of dollars in 10 years to him...
legendary
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November 17, 2024, 03:43:11 PM
Sinner in unplayable at the moment.
He is much stronger than anyone else.
He destroyed the number 5 in the world in the final for 6-4 6-4 with almost 20 aces done.

Lets see if the following ear he can go for all the slams.

This year his earning with sponsor were near 50mil $ according to the televisions...
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November 17, 2024, 01:06:41 PM
If Sinner would win today 2-0 this Will be a record since It seems he Will be the First player to win ato finals without lose a single set.
Yesterday against Ruud has been seriously impressive. Italian commenter (a famous ex player call Panatta) was really impressed by each shot. Even joking on humble approach of Sinner...

Fritz Is a strong player in a good shape.
Well, he has the chance to win, but Sinner with this performance actually Is really strong, 0 surprises if he win.
I was also expecting tough resistance from Taylor Fritz specially as he beats Zverev, but after end of first set things are completely under control of Jennik Sinner who is dominating in tennis in 2024 with his amazing quality and performance look like he is not going to give any chance to American for having any set won in this final of the event.



We have break for World No 1 in 8th game of the first set which was enough for having win for him in first set of this final in 10th game of first set was also interesting as Fritz done good job but sadly still not able to break serve and have point, so first set ended on 6–4 for Sinner now we are heading for second and probably last set of the event in few minutes.
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November 17, 2024, 08:04:41 AM
If Sinner would win today 2-0 this Will be a record since It seems he Will be the First player to win ato finals without lose a single set.
Yesterday against Ruud has been seriously impressive. Italian commenter (a famous ex player call Panatta) was really impressed by each shot. Even joking on humble approach of Sinner...

Fritz Is a strong player in a good shape.
Well, he has the chance to win, but Sinner with this performance actually Is really strong, 0 surprises if he win.
legendary
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November 17, 2024, 02:27:19 AM
I guess I was wrong to go with Zverev to beat Fritz, damn I should have gone with
an over bet and should have figured the match would go to 3 sets....with a bonus of
a third set tie break.

Second match was a very one sided affair, Sinner through in 2 sets 6-1 and 6-2.
His level was unbelievable, Ruud played very well its just Sinner cancelled him out.

Its is looking like a Sinner victory today but will Fritz take a set from him? I have to
figure that out.
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November 16, 2024, 09:58:46 AM
27 years old Taylor Fritz spend only 28 minutes to stun 2nd ranked Zverev in first set of the first semifinal of the ATP Turin event where now are in second set of the semifinal where Zverev is trying his best for comeback and having spot into final with second semifinal is going to play Jannik Sinner vs Ruud after few hours of this first match.



Taylor Fritz is looking on his peak in this game he is impressive in service and having good command with Zverev is looking not good as he was having his early matches against Alcaraz and Ruud hopefully we will be having good match from him in remaining time when he will try his best for fightback.
We have entertaining game as first set won by Fritz and then good comeback from Zverev who won second set with the same score of first set now we are heading for third set where Fritz won first point, and now we have Zverev on service It's going to be good end of this first semifinal between these two players.

From here I have strong feeling Zverev can win this third set and match as well he is good for the long race in last few weeks having good improvement in his game.
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November 16, 2024, 09:28:32 AM
27 years old Taylor Fritz spend only 28 minutes to stun 2nd ranked Zverev in first set of the first semifinal of the ATP Turin event where now are in second set of the semifinal where Zverev is trying his best for comeback and having spot into final with second semifinal is going to play Jannik Sinner vs Ruud after few hours of this first match.



Taylor Fritz is looking on his peak in this game he is impressive in service and having good command with Zverev is looking not good as he was having his early matches against Alcaraz and Ruud hopefully we will be having good match from him in remaining time when he will try his best for fightback.
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November 16, 2024, 08:32:41 AM
the semi finals are set for today.

Zverev v Fritz
Sinner v Ruud

The two unexpected guys there for me are Fritz and Ruud. Ruuds win over
Alcaraz seems to have given him confidence even if Alcaraz was not at 100%.

Zverev had a great win over him also. Pity for Alcaraz that he hasnt been in
top health/form as he was very much favourite to be at least in the final.

I'm still calling a Zverev v Sinner final!
Now we have few minutes left in first semifinal between Zverev vs Fritz after this later tonight we will be having seconded one between Jannik Sinner vs Ruud even both are hot favourite for the win these semifinals but still as we know Tennis is always having surprises things can take changes for any player.

Still, most chances we will be having Jannik Sinner vs Zverev final which is also going to be one-sided because currently we have Sinner on his best while no other is having ability to stop him from winning titles Zverev is good player but in last few months we have his performance unpredictable which is having problem for him as he usually fails against top players in important games even he is also one of the best top ranked players in tennis.
legendary
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November 16, 2024, 03:58:10 AM
Its more than likely going to be a Zverev v Sinner final. Zverev remains unbeaten
as does Fritz but lets see what way the semi finals pan out....

I havent been too successful so far this tournament, I have been expecting more
3 set matches but they havent transpired - because of the big gap in talent
between 3 players over the others.

Todays matches
Fritz v de Minaur - I would like to think this would be a 3 set match

Sinner v Medvedev - more than likely a 2 set match.
Fritz vs De Minaur were fun to watch as we have good game from both players, but Fritz were at the top of his game as he strongly fights back after losing first set and give himself spot into top four where we will have more exciting games in next few days.

Sinner vs Medvedev this was one-sided affair as we have no resistance from Medvedev 75 minutes and three service breaks were enough for World no #1 to stay at the top of the group.

Now today we have two games first we will have Zverev vs Alcaraz here we have Spaniard slightly favourite after win against Rublev for his try to have spot into top four things are looking not easy, but it's also going to be exciting match in case of win for Alcaraz we will have these players into last four but in case of lost for Alcaraz we will have chance for the Ruud who is going to face Rublev in last game of the group stage.


Well the semi finals are set for today.

Zverev v Fritz
Sinner v Ruud

The two unexpected guys there for me are Fritz and Ruud. Ruuds win over
Alcaraz seems to have given him confidence even if Alcaraz was not at 100%.

Zverev had a great win over him also. Pity for Alcaraz that he hasnt been in
top health/form as he was very much favourite to be at least in the final.

I'm still calling a Zverev v Sinner final!
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November 15, 2024, 07:04:51 AM
Its more than likely going to be a Zverev v Sinner final. Zverev remains unbeaten
as does Fritz but lets see what way the semi finals pan out....

I havent been too successful so far this tournament, I have been expecting more
3 set matches but they havent transpired - because of the big gap in talent
between 3 players over the others.

Todays matches
Fritz v de Minaur - I would like to think this would be a 3 set match

Sinner v Medvedev - more than likely a 2 set match.
Fritz vs De Minaur were fun to watch as we have good game from both players, but Fritz were at the top of his game as he strongly fights back after losing first set and give himself spot into top four where we will have more exciting games in next few days.

Sinner vs Medvedev this was one-sided affair as we have no resistance from Medvedev 75 minutes and three service breaks were enough for World no #1 to stay at the top of the group.

Now today we have two games first we will have Zverev vs Alcaraz here we have Spaniard slightly favourite after win against Rublev for his try to have spot into top four things are looking not easy, but it's also going to be exciting match in case of win for Alcaraz we will have these players into last four but in case of lost for Alcaraz we will have chance for the Ruud who is going to face Rublev in last game of the group stage.
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November 14, 2024, 11:40:19 AM
If Alcaraz withdraws due to illness, it will further open Sinner's chances of becoming champion, his toughest opponent in the semifinals or in the final is Zverev, the others I think will not be an obstacle for Sinner, looks like he wants to end the season perfectly, but next year will be very tough for the Italian player because there are many points to defend, need consistency, healthy and free from injury.
I was also expecting withdrawal from Alcaraz because reports were negative about his health issues, but we have strong comeback by him against Rublev is impressive in second set while we have good resistance from Rublev I was expecting comeback for him as we will be gone into third set but Alcaraz done good work and have won in this as well.

Now for having spot into last 4 we have both Alcaraz and Medvedev in same boat both needs wins against leaders into their groups while both are in good position things could be challenging who will be overcome it's not easy to predict because Sinner vs Medvedev and Zverev vs Alcaraz interesting games.
legendary
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November 14, 2024, 06:02:05 AM
Its more than likely going to be a Zverev v Sinner final. Zverev remains unbeaten
as does Fritz but lets see what way the semi finals pan out....

I havent been too successful so far this tournament, I have been expecting more
3 set matches but they havent transpired - because of the big gap in talent
between 3 players over the others.

Todays matches
Fritz v de Minaur - I would like to think this would be a 3 set match

Sinner v Medvedev - more than likely a 2 set match.
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November 13, 2024, 10:28:51 AM
That was actually a massive win by Sinner. He struggled early on in first set but
as true champions and No.1's he was able to find a way to overcome the problems
and produce a win.

Alcaraz in trouble does mean a clearer path for a win for Sinner, with the exception of
Zverev I dont see anyone else being at his level.

and he is playing at home!
Current situation is clearly indicating we will be having Sinner as champion because no challenger is able to give him challenge with Alcaraz coach already announces he is not 100% which is huge advantage for the local world no 1 Sinner for have won in this event.

Most chances Medvedev will be out of the race for last 4 as he lost early game against Fritz his last game is against Sinner and Fritz going to play against De Minaur which is currently at the bottom of the group Zverev is also strong for the last four with second is not easy due to Alcaraz fitness, it's wide open who is going to progress it's tough job for all three.
legendary
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November 13, 2024, 04:56:44 AM
That was actually a massive win by Sinner. He struggled early on in first set but
as true champions and No.1's he was able to find a way to overcome the problems
and produce a win.

Alcaraz in trouble does mean a clearer path for a win for Sinner, with the exception of
Zverev I dont see anyone else being at his level.

and he is playing at home!
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November 12, 2024, 06:29:59 PM
If Alcaraz withdraws due to illness, it will further open Sinner's chances of becoming champion, his toughest opponent in the semifinals or in the final is Zverev, the others I think will not be an obstacle for Sinner, looks like he wants to end the season perfectly, but next year will be very tough for the Italian player because there are many points to defend, need consistency, healthy and free from injury.
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November 12, 2024, 04:46:31 PM
Sinner has won 6-4 6-4 with a strong Fritz. The American player is playing really well.
But Sinner is just... the number one... Italians fans are very loud and completely crazy for him like a soccer player ( this could be interesting too...)

Breaking news. According Italian television RAI Alcaraz could give forfait very soon. He has left the training field today after just 10 minutes with cough and covered with a towel.
It seems Dimitrov should join the ATP FInals...
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