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Quote from: mv1986 on November 24, 2024, 06:28:12 PM

Quote from: aoluain on November 19, 2024, 04:39:16 PM

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Quote from: aoluain on November 18, 2024, 09:21:39 AM

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I take your views and TBH they all sound very reasonable. Sinner and Alcaraz
are already doing great things for the sport. Already Sinners matches are
commanding bigger viewership than some top Serie A football matches, that
has to have a knock on affect for Tennis in Italy in the future. I'm sure for Alcaraz
and Spanish Tennis too.

I know when I was following F1 back in the 90's early 00's when Schumacher was
at his peak and winning everything....for me it became too predictable and
I switched off - obviously I wasnt a Schumacher fan.

I hope it doesnt become like that for Tennis with only 2 top players dominating the scene.

Yes I think in tennis it is still a bit different as you can only do so much with your equipment. In F1 it's a lot about the engineers and an army of people is involved, plus once you have the most competitive car and are a good driver, chances are high that you will win for quite some time. See how Vettel did it 4 years in a row and I get what you mean by bringing up Schumacher, it was really boring.

In tennis it is this one and one and pure skill. The racket doesn't make the difference and neither do the shoes. And we got lucky since there were three outstandingly incredible players with different forms of strengths and weaknesses.

Thats an interesting way of looking at Tennis and the top players, something I hadnt considered.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 23, 2024, 11:42:04 AM

Yea Berrettini has secured his win over 3 sets against Kokkinakis.

Sinner in action ATM and has secured the first set against de Minaur. I would be
very surprised if Sinner loses this.

Yesterday it was an historic win by the Netherlands to make it into the final by
beating Germany. In fairness without Zverev playing The Netherlands were a
stronger team.

Sinner is just so good this season and i think because of him they will win the davis cup easily,he won really easily in straight sets .I honestly dont see anyone stopping them and if Berrettini plays good as he did during his current matches i think it will be an easy title for Italy at this davis cup.

and that it was, Sinner winning in 2 sets!

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Quote from: aoluain on November 24, 2024, 04:04:11 AM

So in Italy they are taking the 1-0 win as Sinner v Griekspoor, they are calling it
as a "Dead Cert", a definite win. I suppose the only advantage Griekspoor has is
that he has played Sinner alot over the last 2 years but its definitely an uphill battle
and not only that but it could be all over in 2 matches!

The odds on this one are Italy 1.09 - 7.00 The Netherlands

Sinner actually is too strong. This year he has lose 6 matches. 3 Against Alcaraz, 1 vs Rublev, 1 vs Medvedev, 1 vs Tsitsipas.
But in ALL games he has won at least 1 set! This is a record done previously by Federer.
Meanwhile this year Sinner was able to win 2 Grand Slams + 1 ATP Finals + 1 Davis Cup = yes this is a record! there was no player able to do that.
He is only 23 years old... this is seriously impressing.

Bookmakers have changed approach on him. I have seen many times during the competition odds below 1.10-1.05 Sad

Unbelievable record really. Just over 18 months or so ago the talk was all about Alcaraz and
while he has been a serious talent I think Sinner has done what Alcaraz was expected to do.

Unfortunately betting on Sinner for a straight win is not profitable, have to be betting on sets
or games with him!

I wonder what 2025 holds and if he will get a ban?

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Quote from: aoluain on November 24, 2024, 04:04:11 AM

So in Italy they are taking the 1-0 win as Sinner v Griekspoor, they are calling it
as a "Dead Cert", a definite win. I suppose the only advantage Griekspoor has is
that he has played Sinner alot over the last 2 years but its definitely an uphill battle
and not only that but it could be all over in 2 matches!

The odds on this one are Italy 1.09 - 7.00 The Netherlands

Sinner actually is too strong. This year he has lose 6 matches. 3 Against Alcaraz, 1 vs Rublev, 1 vs Medvedev, 1 vs Tsitsipas.
But in ALL games he has won at least 1 set! This is a record done previously by Federer.
Meanwhile this year Sinner was able to win 2 Grand Slams + 1 ATP Finals + 1 Davis Cup = yes this is a record! there was no player able to do that.
He is only 23 years old... this is seriously impressing.

Bookmakers have changed approach on him. I have seen many times during the competition odds below 1.10-1.05 Sad

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Quote from: aoluain on November 23, 2024, 11:42:04 AM

Yea Berrettini has secured his win over 3 sets against Kokkinakis.

Sinner in action ATM and has secured the first set against de Minaur. I would be
very surprised if Sinner loses this.

Yesterday it was an historic win by the Netherlands to make it into the final by
beating Germany. In fairness without Zverev playing The Netherlands were a
stronger team.

Sinner is just so good this season and i think because of him they will win the davis cup easily,he won really easily in straight sets .I honestly dont see anyone stopping them and if Berrettini plays good as he did during his current matches i think it will be an easy title for Italy at this davis cup.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 19, 2024, 04:39:16 PM

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Quote from: aoluain on November 18, 2024, 09:21:39 AM

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I think there is nothing wrong about having outstanding figures representing the sport on a certain level of excellence globally. If you take the Federer, Djokovic, Nadal time as an example, I think it did anything but hurt the sport to spread in popularity. Messi and Ronaldo did the same for football and Schumacher once did it for Formula 1. If there is this one or there are these two invincible guys, it does have some appeal in my opinion. Fans are always excited to see new challengers coming up, trying to dethrone the best of the best. Since it is not a team sport, I think there is something that catches the attention of the masses. It's different when PSG wins the Ligue 1 10 years in a row. That's boring because the team is getting pumped with money nonstop. But in 1vs.1 sports, money doesn't make that much of a difference, especially in tennis. What can you do? Buy the most expensive racket or shoes? Get a better doctor than others. But at the end of the day it comes down to the talent, the training and the ability to get these things onto the tennis court and deliver. That's what Federer, Djokovic and Nadal did and that was what got the masses thrilled about the sport.

I take your views and TBH they all sound very reasonable. Sinner and Alcaraz
are already doing great things for the sport. Already Sinners matches are
commanding bigger viewership than some top Serie A football matches, that
has to have a knock on affect for Tennis in Italy in the future. I'm sure for Alcaraz
and Spanish Tennis too.

I know when I was following F1 back in the 90's early 00's when Schumacher was
at his peak and winning everything....for me it became too predictable and
I switched off - obviously I wasnt a Schumacher fan.

I hope it doesnt become like that for Tennis with only 2 top players dominating the scene.

Yes I think in tennis it is still a bit different as you can only do so much with your equipment. In F1 it's a lot about the engineers and an army of people is involved, plus once you have the most competitive car and are a good driver, chances are high that you will win for quite some time. See how Vettel did it 4 years in a row and I get what you mean by bringing up Schumacher, it was really boring.

In tennis it is this one and one and pure skill. The racket doesn't make the difference and neither do the shoes. And we got lucky since there were three outstandingly incredible players with different forms of strengths and weaknesses.

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So in Italy they are taking the 1-0 win as Sinner v Griekspoor, they are calling it
as a "Dead Cert", a definite win. I suppose the only advantage Griekspoor has is
that he has played Sinner alot over the last 2 years but its definitely an uphill battle
and not only that but it could be all over in 2 matches!

The odds on this one are Italy 1.09 - 7.00 The Netherlands

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No surprise for Italy that has reached the final with the victory of Berrettini and Sinner.
Sinnes as usual this year is literally another level for all players. Speakers of Italian television RAI2 are kidding for tomorrow "we have already scored 1-0 tomorrow against Netherlands" Grin

By the way lets see tomorrow, finals are always a challenge Roll Eyes

for any player...

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Yea Berrettini has secured his win over 3 sets against Kokkinakis.

Sinner in action ATM and has secured the first set against de Minaur. I would be
very surprised if Sinner loses this.

Yesterday it was an historic win by the Netherlands to make it into the final by
beating Germany. In fairness without Zverev playing The Netherlands were a
stronger team.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 21, 2024, 01:17:14 PM

DAVIS CUP is ongoing ATM

The big story is that Nadal played hi last match and was beaten by Griekspoor in the quarter finals.
Time catches up with us all and there is only 1 of the top 3 still playing. Djokoviv's retirement is
coming soon.

Semi finals are almost set, Germany to play the Netherlands and Australia will play either Italy or
Argentina. Its hard to see the top ranked team - Italy being beaten by Argentina is difficult to see.

The first match is on today between Sinner and Baez but as usual info on start time is really difficult
to find. Betting is closed!

Its very interesting Spain, USA already out of the semifinals, and now we are having last quarterfinal between Italy vs Argentina where after two matches we have score 1–1 in few minutes we are heading for tie-break which will not easy for both teams for me look like we will be having Argentina into semifinal but still it's going to be tough match.

Edit: We have change of nominations as now Italian team is having J Sinner & Berrettini against Molteni & Gonzalez now Italians are hot favorite for the win.

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DAVIS CUP is ongoing ATM

The big story is that Nadal played hi last match and was beaten by Griekspoor in the quarter finals.
Time catches up with us all and there is only 1 of the top 3 still playing. Djokoviv's retirement is
coming soon.

Semi finals are almost set, Germany to play the Netherlands and Australia will play either Italy or
Argentina. Its hard to see the top ranked team - Italy being beaten by Argentina is difficult to see.

The first match is on today between Sinner and Baez but as usual info on start time is really difficult
to find. Betting is closed!

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 19, 2024, 07:44:53 AM

Quote from: aoluain on November 18, 2024, 09:21:39 AM

With the exception of Alcaraz when he is fit I can see anybody at Sinner's level ATM.
OK he has been beaten 6 times this year but he has won 70 games and claimed 7 titles including
2 GS.

Alcaraz is on a 53-13 win/loss ratio with only 4 titles including 2 GS - that means all the GS were
won by 2 players, and you know what I believe thats how its going for the next few years
-more-or-less-

Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years - hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I think there is nothing wrong about having outstanding figures representing the sport on a certain level of excellence globally. If you take the Federer, Djokovic, Nadal time as an example, I think it did anything but hurt the sport to spread in popularity. Messi and Ronaldo did the same for football and Schumacher once did it for Formula 1. If there is this one or there are these two invincible guys, it does have some appeal in my opinion. Fans are always excited to see new challengers coming up, trying to dethrone the best of the best. Since it is not a team sport, I think there is something that catches the attention of the masses. It's different when PSG wins the Ligue 1 10 years in a row. That's boring because the team is getting pumped with money nonstop. But in 1vs.1 sports, money doesn't make that much of a difference, especially in tennis. What can you do? Buy the most expensive racket or shoes? Get a better doctor than others. But at the end of the day it comes down to the talent, the training and the ability to get these things onto the tennis court and deliver. That's what Federer, Djokovic and Nadal did and that was what got the masses thrilled about the sport.

I take your views and TBH they all sound very reasonable. Sinner and Alcaraz
are already doing great things for the sport. Already Sinners matches are
commanding bigger viewership than some top Serie A football matches, that
has to have a knock on affect for Tennis in Italy in the future. I'm sure for Alcaraz
and Spanish Tennis too.

I know when I was following F1 back in the 90's early 00's when Schumacher was
at his peak and winning everything....for me it became too predictable and
I switched off - obviously I wasnt a Schumacher fan.

I hope it doesnt become like that for Tennis with only 2 top players dominating the scene.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 18, 2024, 09:21:39 AM

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Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years - hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I am confident that other crazy players will pop out in the coming future. 10-15 years is a long range of time in this sport.
Kid actually watching Sinner on tv could easily play against him in 10 -15 years.

For sure Alcaraz is the unique player able to fight against Sinner. Fritz was able to score some points but that's all. Djokovic? probably he will try to win some of the last match against Sinner but there is already a difference with shape and physical condition, that can just be worst in the long time.

Italian Tennis is in an absolute fantastic state, particularly in 2024, Sinner,
Sonego and Musetti, Paolini and Errani taking Gold in Olympics doubles, its all good.

I would like to see Fritz coming up and being part of the top 3, it would be better
if there was a top 5 or 6, imagine the epic battles between them all?

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Quote from: aoluain on November 18, 2024, 09:21:39 AM

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Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years - hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I am confident that other crazy players will pop out in the coming future. 10-15 years is a long range of time in this sport.
Kid actually watching Sinner on tv could easily play against him in 10 -15 years.

For sure Alcaraz is the unique player able to fight against Sinner. Fritz was able to score some points but that's all. Djokovic? probably he will try to win some of the last match against Sinner but there is already a difference with shape and physical condition, that can just be worst in the long time.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 18, 2024, 09:21:39 AM

With the exception of Alcaraz when he is fit I can see anybody at Sinner's level ATM.
OK he has been beaten 6 times this year but he has won 70 games and claimed 7 titles including
2 GS.

Alcaraz is on a 53-13 win/loss ratio with only 4 titles including 2 GS - that means all the GS were
won by 2 players, and you know what I believe thats how its going for the next few years
-more-or-less-

Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years - hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

I think there is nothing wrong about having outstanding figures representing the sport on a certain level of excellence globally. If you take the Federer, Djokovic, Nadal time as an example, I think it did anything but hurt the sport to spread in popularity. Messi and Ronaldo did the same for football and Schumacher once did it for Formula 1. If there is this one or there are these two invincible guys, it does have some appeal in my opinion. Fans are always excited to see new challengers coming up, trying to dethrone the best of the best. Since it is not a team sport, I think there is something that catches the attention of the masses. It's different when PSG wins the Ligue 1 10 years in a row. That's boring because the team is getting pumped with money nonstop. But in 1vs.1 sports, money doesn't make that much of a difference, especially in tennis. What can you do? Buy the most expensive racket or shoes? Get a better doctor than others. But at the end of the day it comes down to the talent, the training and the ability to get these things onto the tennis court and deliver. That's what Federer, Djokovic and Nadal did and that was what got the masses thrilled about the sport.

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 18, 2024, 03:46:56 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 17, 2024, 03:43:11 PM

Sinner in unplayable at the moment.
He is much stronger than anyone else.
He destroyed the number 5 in the world in the final for 6-4 6-4 with almost 20 aces done.

Lets see if the following ear he can go for all the slams.

This year his earning with sponsor were near 50mil $ according to the televisions...

well, in this competition ATP finals he has been very lucky because Djokovic was not present by the scratch and Alcaraz was eliminated.
Both players are the only that can really try to fight against him. For sure, Sinner in a good shape without healthy issue is always a big problem for any player around here.
And he is only 23 years old... I was pretty sure of his success Roll Eyes

after Nike decide to pay 100 millions of dollars in 10 years to him...

With the exception of Alcaraz when he is fit I can see anybody at Sinner's level ATM.
OK he has been beaten 6 times this year but he has won 70 games and claimed 7 titles including
2 GS.

Alcaraz is on a 53-13 win/loss ratio with only 4 titles including 2 GS - that means all the GS were
won by 2 players, and you know what I believe thats how its going for the next few years
-more-or-less-

Maybe in the future the top 3 will be replaced by the Top 2 with Sinner and Alcaraz dominating
the scene for the next 10 to 15 years - hope not though for the sake of the sport and all the
other players.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 17, 2024, 03:43:11 PM

Sinner in unplayable at the moment.
He is much stronger than anyone else.
He destroyed the number 5 in the world in the final for 6-4 6-4 with almost 20 aces done.

Lets see if the following ear he can go for all the slams.

This year his earning with sponsor were near 50mil $ according to the televisions...

well, in this competition ATP finals he has been very lucky because Djokovic was not present by the scratch and Alcaraz was eliminated.
Both players are the only that can really try to fight against him. For sure, Sinner in a good shape without healthy issue is always a big problem for any player around here.
And he is only 23 years old... I was pretty sure of his success Roll Eyes

after Nike decide to pay 100 millions of dollars in 10 years to him...

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Sinner in unplayable at the moment.
He is much stronger than anyone else.
He destroyed the number 5 in the world in the final for 6-4 6-4 with almost 20 aces done.

Lets see if the following ear he can go for all the slams.

This year his earning with sponsor were near 50mil $ according to the televisions...

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 17, 2024, 08:04:41 AM

If Sinner would win today 2-0 this Will be a record since It seems he Will be the First player to win ato finals without lose a single set.
Yesterday against Ruud has been seriously impressive. Italian commenter (a famous ex player call Panatta) was really impressed by each shot. Even joking on humble approach of Sinner...

Fritz Is a strong player in a good shape.
Well, he has the chance to win, but Sinner with this performance actually Is really strong, 0 surprises if he win.

I was also expecting tough resistance from Taylor Fritz specially as he beats Zverev, but after end of first set things are completely under control of Jennik Sinner who is dominating in tennis in 2024 with his amazing quality and performance look like he is not going to give any chance to American for having any set won in this final of the event.

We have break for World No 1 in 8th game of the first set which was enough for having win for him in first set of this final in 10th game of first set was also interesting as Fritz done good job but sadly still not able to break serve and have point, so first set ended on 6–4 for Sinner now we are heading for second and probably last set of the event in few minutes.

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If Sinner would win today 2-0 this Will be a record since It seems he Will be the First player to win ato finals without lose a single set.
Yesterday against Ruud has been seriously impressive. Italian commenter (a famous ex player call Panatta) was really impressed by each shot. Even joking on humble approach of Sinner...

Fritz Is a strong player in a good shape.
Well, he has the chance to win, but Sinner with this performance actually Is really strong, 0 surprises if he win.

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I guess I was wrong to go with Zverev to beat Fritz, damn I should have gone with
an over bet and should have figured the match would go to 3 sets....with a bonus of
a third set tie break.

Second match was a very one sided affair, Sinner through in 2 sets 6-1 and 6-2.
His level was unbelievable, Ruud played very well its just Sinner cancelled him out.

Its is looking like a Sinner victory today but will Fritz take a set from him? I have to
figure that out.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on November 16, 2024, 09:28:32 AM

27 years old Taylor Fritz spend only 28 minutes to stun 2nd ranked Zverev in first set of the first semifinal of the ATP Turin event where now are in second set of the semifinal where Zverev is trying his best for comeback and having spot into final with second semifinal is going to play Jannik Sinner vs Ruud after few hours of this first match.

Taylor Fritz is looking on his peak in this game he is impressive in service and having good command with Zverev is looking not good as he was having his early matches against Alcaraz and Ruud hopefully we will be having good match from him in remaining time when he will try his best for fightback.

We have entertaining game as first set won by Fritz and then good comeback from Zverev who won second set with the same score of first set now we are heading for third set where Fritz won first point, and now we have Zverev on service It's going to be good end of this first semifinal between these two players.

From here I have strong feeling Zverev can win this third set and match as well he is good for the long race in last few weeks having good improvement in his game.

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27 years old Taylor Fritz spend only 28 minutes to stun 2nd ranked Zverev in first set of the first semifinal of the ATP Turin event where now are in second set of the semifinal where Zverev is trying his best for comeback and having spot into final with second semifinal is going to play Jannik Sinner vs Ruud after few hours of this first match.

Taylor Fritz is looking on his peak in this game he is impressive in service and having good command with Zverev is looking not good as he was having his early matches against Alcaraz and Ruud hopefully we will be having good match from him in remaining time when he will try his best for fightback.

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