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Quote from: Strongkored on June 23, 2023, 10:43:55 PM

Quote from: n0ne on June 23, 2023, 06:12:03 PM

Carlos Alcaraz in ATP Queen's still going and now in the semi-finals going to face Sebastian Korda, that's pretty good because he's progressing pretty well on the grass and relatively only in the first round he's had a hard time but after that, he's pretty impressive beating his opponents, and in Wimbledon later he can again become a challenger for Djokovic who is the defending champion at that Grand Slam.

Korda is playing great currently abd I'm happy for him because I've won a few bets with him
but I'm going to skip this semi final battle with Alcaraz who himself seems very strong this
year on grass, he is favourite to win that.

The second semi final is de Minaur v Rune, this one Rune should win but the odds suggest it will
be close, de Minaur 2.0 - 1.83 Rune.

In the match against Musetti yesterday Rune did receive treatment for his wrist but obviously went
on to win that match, I wonder are others doubtful on his capabilities to beat de Minaur?

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Quote from: n0ne on June 23, 2023, 06:12:03 PM

Quarter finals outcomes were completely against the prediction. I haven't placed bets, but the results from my prediction were different. Zverev have made direct set win, which is an expected one. Medvedev losing to Bautista isn't expected. Sinner's walkover isn't an expected one. The winning of Rublev is an expected one, he had managed to win 3-6 6-3 6-4 which is really good. Now the semifinals will be more interesting as these are second level of players which means at a best rank and not in the top position.

I'm more sorry about Sinner's injury because I think he is a strong challenger for the title and the first set was very tight and it would be a shame if he doesn't recover at Wimbledon. Medvedev's loss to Bautista Augut isn't that surprising actually even though in terms of ranking Medvedev is better but Bautista Augut is a player that can't be underestimated when on grass.
And now the home player has the chance to win this tournament, even though in the semifinals later he cannot underestimate Bublik, who is quite consistent at the moment.

Carlos Alcaraz in ATP Queen's still going and now in the semi-finals going to face Sebastian Korda, that's pretty good because he's progressing pretty well on the grass and relatively only in the first round he's had a hard time but after that, he's pretty impressive beating his opponents, and in Wimbledon later he can again become a challenger for Djokovic who is the defending champion at that Grand Slam.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 23, 2023, 03:50:10 PM

Quote from: Ratash on June 22, 2023, 11:20:52 PM

Zverev will be facing jarry later today in the Halle tournament i think this is a good chance for him to win a tournament, his biggest problem will be either Rublev or medvedev but i think since its in germany and with the improvement in his performance lately he has a good chance in making it at least to the finals.

Zverev won really easily against Jarry and is advancing to the semi finals where he will play Bublik and i think that will be a really intresting match up do to both players serving really good. Medvedev is knocked out so that leaves Rublev the only one that can maybe make a threat to Zverev. But i dont like how Rublev plays on grass so i think he wont be able to win and will struggle probobly with Bautista in the semi final

Quarter finals outcomes were completely against the prediction. I haven't placed bets, but the results from my prediction were different. Zverev have made direct set win, which is an expected one. Medvedev losing to Bautista isn't expected. Sinner's walkover isn't an expected one. The winning of Rublev is an expected one, he had managed to win 3-6 6-3 6-4 which is really good. Now the semifinals will be more interesting as these are second level of players which means at a best rank and not in the top position.

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Quote from: Ratash on June 22, 2023, 11:20:52 PM

Zverev will be facing jarry later today in the Halle tournament i think this is a good chance for him to win a tournament, his biggest problem will be either Rublev or medvedev but i think since its in germany and with the improvement in his performance lately he has a good chance in making it at least to the finals.

Zverev won really easily against Jarry and is advancing to the semi finals where he will play Bublik and i think that will be a really intresting match up do to both players serving really good. Medvedev is knocked out so that leaves Rublev the only one that can maybe make a threat to Zverev. But i dont like how Rublev plays on grass so i think he wont be able to win and will struggle probobly with Bautista in the semi final

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@Strongkored: Struff seems the better value for me against countryman, watched Zverev at RG when he bowed out and wasn't impressed, he does seem to benefit from his lanky figure and maybe an advantage on grass?

Aaand, Tsitsi does it again (or doesn't do it again). cryptofrka mentioned elsewhere that he isn't to be trusted on grass, but it's a meek, meek outing from him anyway. Actually had the gall to pick him for a finalist elsewhere on BSFL (you guys who're active here but not there keen on that?) but fortunately for me, him losing didn't matter for me. So much for trying to be smart.

Beginning to think it might be wise to put a few quid here and there against Alcaraz and Djoko now...

Tsitsipas - ah man are you still betting on him? he is waay too unpredictible.

Alcaraz is playing Lehecka shortly today, he is actually looking quite good on grass
so far at Queens and its mostly top seeded players left, Fritz, Rune, Norrie, Musetti
and de Minaur who has nearly beaten Schwartzman so there are still a few contenders
for the title.

Musetti plays Rune tomorrow, really hope he can beat the Dane.

Holger Rune's second round rival, Ryan Peniston, beat him at the grass court tournament in Eastbourne last year, but the young Dane avenged the defeat by tackling flats from the English left. Lorenzo Musetti took a three-set victory over American Next Gen star Ben Shelton. Rune and Musetti have not played each other on any level, which makes this matchup even more unpredictable. An encounter that is open to surprises awaits us.

Oh - I didnt realise neither player has competed against the other, this will be the first
meeting and an unpredictable one at that. The odds on Rollbit are: Musetti 2.31 v 1.57 Rune.

Not long to wait, thats up in about 15 minutes, I might stick a sneaky bet on Musetti...

The next Quarter final is Korda v Norrie, I'm going with Korda on this one, he is having
a great return to play tournament.

Anf the final Quarter is Alcaraz v Dimitrov, I dont think Dimitrov can beat Alcaraz here...

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Just my luck. Finally got time to go watch some tennis, and now Sinner appears to have retired from injury. Hope that doesn't mean he'll miss Wimbledon next month...

Interesting picks, casperBGD, and that's been my style for tennis, picking outrights with good value. Haven't done it recently though. I'm really missing out on good bets by staying on the sidelines but I just don't really feel comfortable without watching much tennis recently.

So Zverev looks like he has a clear way now to the final, with Sinner out. More surprises to come?

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 22, 2023, 03:51:51 PM

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He isnt playing anything before Wimbledon and he always does this and dominates everyone. Tsitsipas is bad on grass this season and i dont think he will make it to the semis even.

Tsitsipas is not a grass player, he will probably left in first week
will be interesting to see who will see SF, maybe Zverev has some chances to make an upset, his form is getting better and better, and he has a good run on grass (as well as play-style)

last year I had early outright on Norrie, he reached SF, which was great, this season is harder to pick, odds on Djokovic are not worth it (@1.6 is better to wait for him to lose first set, maybe two, and play in-game)
Zverev @21 looks tempting, Norrie @34 is not even for consideration (last year with better form, he was @51), but Shapovalov @61 looks good to go into second week

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 22, 2023, 03:51:51 PM

The only thing that can mess up Djokovic is himself or an injury. He is so good on grass that he dosent even need tournaments before to get use to the grass. He isnt playing anything before Wimbledon and he always does this and dominates everyone. Tsitsipas is bad on grass this season and i dont think he will make it to the semis even.

I didn't know that he also didn't play any prep tournaments for Wimbledon in the past. But I think that anyway he is taking care of his body and choosing tournaments wisely. I would even say that for him it is all about the four GS year round. He knows that if he "only" wins those GS tournaments and has just a few other tournaments with decent finishes, he will even stay at the top of the ranking. He wants his body to be as healthy as possible for the GS tournaments and I believe we will see him playing for maybe three or four years. I said two years before, but when I see him playing I couldn't come up with a reason why he should stop in 1.5 years from now.

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Zverev will be facing jarry later today in the Halle tournament i think this is a good chance for him to win a tournament, his biggest problem will be either Rublev or medvedev but i think since its in germany and with the improvement in his performance lately he has a good chance in making it at least to the finals.

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 22, 2023, 03:57:50 PM

Quote from: Strongkored on June 21, 2023, 10:29:21 PM

Before we see Struff vs Zverev, we must first see them beat Bublik and Jarry, Struff vs Bublik are still pretty sure this German player can win if he stays consistent and what is doubtful is Zverev vs Jarry, Jarry was very good at beating Tsitsipas though Tsitsipas on grass isn't great but Zverev on grass isn't anything special either and he hasn't shown anything impressive so far, but if the two Germans met in the semis I would still go with Struff.

And the last remaining player from Germany in Halle is Zverev. Struff lost against Bublik in 3 sets. It was a good and close match from Struff. But in the end it was not enough. He will still have some opportunities this year.
Zverev is not good on grass. I already mentioned the reason above. But it seems he has developed and it will be a close match.

Can't be sure of the winning of Zverev. The quarter finals match is against Jarry. He's is in better form winning against Tsitsipas, and earlier he had won against Ruud in French Open. Won the Geneva Open title winning against Dimitrov. So, the match will be have good fight. In the remaining quarter finals it is Sinner, Rublev and Medvedev to reach the semifinals. Lets see if something happens as a surprise.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 21, 2023, 10:29:21 PM

Before we see Struff vs Zverev, we must first see them beat Bublik and Jarry, Struff vs Bublik are still pretty sure this German player can win if he stays consistent and what is doubtful is Zverev vs Jarry, Jarry was very good at beating Tsitsipas though Tsitsipas on grass isn't great but Zverev on grass isn't anything special either and he hasn't shown anything impressive so far, but if the two Germans met in the semis I would still go with Struff.

And the last remaining player from Germany in Halle is Zverev. Struff lost against Bublik in 3 sets. It was a good and close match from Struff. But in the end it was not enough. He will still have some opportunities this year.
Zverev is not good on grass. I already mentioned the reason above. But it seems he has developed and it will be a close match.

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Djokovic' on-grass win rate is at 85.83% and then from the active players who are going to play Wimbledon the next one is Bautista Agut with 69.59%. After that come Gasquet and Kyrgios and considering how strong Djokovic is right now, he is well set to increase his GS title count further this year. I guess only some kind of black out could stop him.

as it looks now, this season look as better chance for Djokovic to win all GS's than in 2021, when he lost final to Medvedev at US Open
and on Wimbledon, looking at form and participants, he is a main favorite, really can't see who can win over him in London

maybe there will be a surprise, but doesn't look were likely to be honest, it is just that he will probably not play any tournament on grass before Wimbledon, but he is experienced enough not to lose in first few rounds, no matter opponent

Novak Djokovic is on a good run right now. He is playing really well, and I think we can see that he does not think of himself as an old player. I really liked his idea when he said that 35 is the new 25 Grin

. Anyway, I think he is performing really well right now. I also cannot see anyone who will actually be able to beat him.

I don’t think there will be any surprises. I understand it is not that easy to predict. Because things can go wrong easily at any moment. But the way he is playing right now it is going to be an educated guess to say that he is going to have a fairly good performance and he is also going to be consistent.

That is the thing, who is going to stop Djokovic? He is strong on grass and these days we can also see some of the better players struggle on grass like Tsitsipas. To stop Djokovic someone has to play above their normal level and Djokovic should only be able to play at 80% because even at 90% he would still be the superior player in the current participant field. Is he even preparing? Or is he just skipping all those "minor" grass tours and goes straight to Wimbledon? He isn't lacking confidence Tongue

The only thing that can mess up Djokovic is himself or an injury. He is so good on grass that he dosent even need tournaments before to get use to the grass. He isnt playing anything before Wimbledon and he always does this and dominates everyone. Tsitsipas is bad on grass this season and i dont think he will make it to the semis even.

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Djokovic' on-grass win rate is at 85.83% and then from the active players who are going to play Wimbledon the next one is Bautista Agut with 69.59%. After that come Gasquet and Kyrgios and considering how strong Djokovic is right now, he is well set to increase his GS title count further this year. I guess only some kind of black out could stop him.

as it looks now, this season look as better chance for Djokovic to win all GS's than in 2021, when he lost final to Medvedev at US Open
and on Wimbledon, looking at form and participants, he is a main favorite, really can't see who can win over him in London

maybe there will be a surprise, but doesn't look were likely to be honest, it is just that he will probably not play any tournament on grass before Wimbledon, but he is experienced enough not to lose in first few rounds, no matter opponent

Novak Djokovic is on a good run right now. He is playing really well, and I think we can see that he does not think of himself as an old player. I really liked his idea when he said that 35 is the new 25 Grin

. Anyway, I think he is performing really well right now. I also cannot see anyone who will actually be able to beat him.

I don’t think there will be any surprises. I understand it is not that easy to predict. Because things can go wrong easily at any moment. But the way he is playing right now it is going to be an educated guess to say that he is going to have a fairly good performance and he is also going to be consistent.

That is the thing, who is going to stop Djokovic? He is strong on grass and these days we can also see some of the better players struggle on grass like Tsitsipas. To stop Djokovic someone has to play above their normal level and Djokovic should only be able to play at 80% because even at 90% he would still be the superior player in the current participant field. Is he even preparing? Or is he just skipping all those "minor" grass tours and goes straight to Wimbledon? He isn't lacking confidence Tongue

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Quote from: buwaytress on June 21, 2023, 04:08:38 PM

@Strongkored: Struff seems the better value for me against countryman, watched Zverev at RG when he bowed out and wasn't impressed, he does seem to benefit from his lanky figure and maybe an advantage on grass?

Aaand, Tsitsi does it again (or doesn't do it again). cryptofrka mentioned elsewhere that he isn't to be trusted on grass, but it's a meek, meek outing from him anyway. Actually had the gall to pick him for a finalist elsewhere on BSFL (you guys who're active here but not there keen on that?) but fortunately for me, him losing didn't matter for me. So much for trying to be smart.

Beginning to think it might be wise to put a few quid here and there against Alcaraz and Djoko now...

Tsitsipas - ah man are you still betting on him? he is waay too unpredictible.

Alcaraz is playing Lehecka shortly today, he is actually looking quite good on grass
so far at Queens and its mostly top seeded players left, Fritz, Rune, Norrie, Musetti
and de Minaur who has nearly beaten Schwartzman so there are still a few contenders
for the title.

Musetti plays Rune tomorrow, really hope he can beat the Dane.

Holger Rune's second round rival, Ryan Peniston, beat him at the grass court tournament in Eastbourne last year, but the young Dane avenged the defeat by tackling flats from the English left. Lorenzo Musetti took a three-set victory over American Next Gen star Ben Shelton. Rune and Musetti have not played each other on any level, which makes this matchup even more unpredictable. An encounter that is open to surprises awaits us.

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Sinner scraped past but oo did Struff give himself a hard time in bowing out. Fritz also bombed at Queen's. Not sure why I'm still idling by and not pulling any underdog triggers heh. Alcaraz through easy.

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Tsitsipas - ah man are you still betting on him? he is waay too unpredictible.

Only if he's the underdog and odds are of value -- have learnt my lesson for sure about putting money on him but still hard to ignore his rating when considering how far he might go in a draw where he does seem far superior on paper.

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Quote from: serveria.com on June 22, 2023, 08:42:27 AM

Zverev breezed past Shapovalov 6:2, 6:4. Does it mean Sascha is regaining form or just Shapovalov was that bad? His results this season are abysmal so far. Sinner had a tough encounter with Sonego, barely making it in 3 hours time 6:7, 6:4, 6:4.

Bublik v Struff under way now 2:2 no breaks so far.

WTA Berlin Sabalenka v Koudermetova, the Russian was ahead 4:0 in the first set with 2 breaks.

Matches to watch out for:

Rublev v Hanfmann Easy win predicted for a Russian against a German wildcard.
Griekspoor v Hurkacz Same here, easy bet on an in-form Pole.

Shapovalov is really bad this year and continues to play bad. He should be good on grass with his serve but just cannot play st a good level. Everyone expected from him to already be in top 10 but he is miles away from it. Bublik with an impresive win over Struff and like i said before in the thread we might see a tie break and it happened.

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Quote from: aoluain on June 22, 2023, 07:05:08 AM

Tsitsipas - ah man are you still betting on him? he is waay too unpredictible.

Alcaraz is playing Lehecka shortly today, he is actually looking quite good on grass
so far at Queens and its mostly top seeded players left, Fritz, Rune, Norrie, Musetti
and de Minaur who has nearly beaten Schwartzman so there are still a few contenders
for the title.

Musetti plays Rune tomorrow, really hope he can beat the Dane.

Tsitsipas is indeed too unpredictable to consistently place bets on. He is a great talent and will probably win one or more grandslams but you never know with him. A bit similar with Kyrgios allthough he has even more talent (in my eyes) but it is a more a mental challenge for him; it will be interesting to see how far Kyrgios can reach this year. Last year, for the first time ever in his career, he reached the final on a grandslam so why not do even better this year.

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Zverev breezed past Shapovalov 6:2, 6:4. Does it mean Sascha is regaining form or just Shapovalov was that bad? His results this season are abysmal so far. Sinner had a tough encounter with Sonego, barely making it in 3 hours time 6:7, 6:4, 6:4.

Bublik v Struff under way now 2:2 no breaks so far.

WTA Berlin Sabalenka v Koudermetova, the Russian was ahead 4:0 in the first set with 2 breaks.

Matches to watch out for:

Rublev v Hanfmann Easy win predicted for a Russian against a German wildcard.
Griekspoor v Hurkacz Same here, easy bet on an in-form Pole.

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Quote from: buwaytress on June 21, 2023, 04:08:38 PM

@Strongkored: Struff seems the better value for me against countryman, watched Zverev at RG when he bowed out and wasn't impressed, he does seem to benefit from his lanky figure and maybe an advantage on grass?

Aaand, Tsitsi does it again (or doesn't do it again). cryptofrka mentioned elsewhere that he isn't to be trusted on grass, but it's a meek, meek outing from him anyway. Actually had the gall to pick him for a finalist elsewhere on BSFL (you guys who're active here but not there keen on that?) but fortunately for me, him losing didn't matter for me. So much for trying to be smart.

Beginning to think it might be wise to put a few quid here and there against Alcaraz and Djoko now...

Tsitsipas - ah man are you still betting on him? he is waay too unpredictible.

Alcaraz is playing Lehecka shortly today, he is actually looking quite good on grass
so far at Queens and its mostly top seeded players left, Fritz, Rune, Norrie, Musetti
and de Minaur who has nearly beaten Schwartzman so there are still a few contenders
for the title.

Musetti plays Rune tomorrow, really hope he can beat the Dane.

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ATP Halle, Struff is back doing quite impressive things, the public will really support him to go further or to get his first ATP title but he has to go through some tough matches and he is same draw with another German Zverev.

Those were good games from Struff and Zverev and both are deserved to be one round further. It is just a pity that the two could meet in the semi-final. Zverev will play against Jarry. Jarry won surprisingly against Tsitsipas.
In the other group Medvedev and Bautista will play against each other. Medvedev is the favourite here and will probably reach the next round.

Quote from: buwaytress on June 21, 2023, 04:08:38 PM

@Strongkored: Struff seems the better value for me against countryman, watched Zverev at RG when he bowed out and wasn't impressed, he does seem to benefit from his lanky figure and maybe an advantage on grass?

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Before we see Struff vs Zverev, we must first see them beat Bublik and Jarry, Struff vs Bublik are still pretty sure this German player can win if he stays consistent and what is doubtful is Zverev vs Jarry, Jarry was very good at beating Tsitsipas though Tsitsipas on grass isn't great but Zverev on grass isn't anything special either and he hasn't shown anything impressive so far, but if the two Germans met in the semis I would still go with Struff.

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