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Quote from: bct_ail on June 21, 2023, 04:01:13 PM

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ATP Halle, Struff is back doing quite impressive things, the public will really support him to go further or to get his first ATP title but he has to go through some tough matches and he is same draw with another German Zverev.

Those were good games from Struff and Zverev and both are deserved to be one round further. It is just a pity that the two could meet in the semi-final. Zverev will play against Jarry. Jarry won surprisingly against Tsitsipas.
In the other group Medvedev and Bautista will play against each other. Medvedev is the favourite here and will probably reach the next round.

Quote from: buwaytress on June 21, 2023, 04:08:38 PM

@Strongkored: Struff seems the better value for me against countryman, watched Zverev at RG when he bowed out and wasn't impressed, he does seem to benefit from his lanky figure and maybe an advantage on grass?

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Before we see Struff vs Zverev, we must first see them beat Bublik and Jarry, Struff vs Bublik are still pretty sure this German player can win if he stays consistent and what is doubtful is Zverev vs Jarry, Jarry was very good at beating Tsitsipas though Tsitsipas on grass isn't great but Zverev on grass isn't anything special either and he hasn't shown anything impressive so far, but if the two Germans met in the semis I would still go with Struff.

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ATP Halle, Struff is back doing quite impressive things, the public will really support him to go further or to get his first ATP title but he has to go through some tough matches and he is same draw with another German Zverev.

Those were good games from Struff and Zverev and both are deserved to be one round further. It is just a pity that the two could meet in the semi-final. Zverev will play against Jarry. Jarry won surprisingly against Tsitsipas.
In the other group Medvedev and Bautista will play against each other. Medvedev is the favourite here and will probably reach the next round.

Struff on grass is a new player. He plays really well and so far going really far in all of the tournaments. The intresting match will be between him and Bublik ,both players serve really well and i think we might see a few tie breaks in this match. Also Tsitsipas is so far really bad on grass

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@Strongkored: Struff seems the better value for me against countryman, watched Zverev at RG when he bowed out and wasn't impressed, he does seem to benefit from his lanky figure and maybe an advantage on grass?

Aaand, Tsitsi does it again (or doesn't do it again). cryptofrka mentioned elsewhere that he isn't to be trusted on grass, but it's a meek, meek outing from him anyway. Actually had the gall to pick him for a finalist elsewhere on BSFL (you guys who're active here but not there keen on that?) but fortunately for me, him losing didn't matter for me. So much for trying to be smart.

Beginning to think it might be wise to put a few quid here and there against Alcaraz and Djoko now...

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 21, 2023, 06:55:31 AM

ATP Halle, Struff is back doing quite impressive things, the public will really support him to go further or to get his first ATP title but he has to go through some tough matches and he is same draw with another German Zverev.

Those were good games from Struff and Zverev and both are deserved to be one round further. It is just a pity that the two could meet in the semi-final. Zverev will play against Jarry. Jarry won surprisingly against Tsitsipas.
In the other group Medvedev and Bautista will play against each other. Medvedev is the favourite here and will probably reach the next round.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 21, 2023, 06:55:31 AM

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Alcaraz v Rinderknech was a very entertaining match today. Alcaraz lost the first set 4:6 but then managed to win 7:5 and finally won the deciding set on a tie-break 7:6. The Frenchman was using his nice and powerful serve a lot, he also played serve and volley and lots of net play in general. This tactics was genius and Alcaraz mostly couldn't come up with any successful response. In the tie-breaker, Alcaraz proved he's world's #2 for a reason getting into the lead 6:1 and eventually winning 7:3.

That's an incredible comeback and it proves the ability of Alcaraz. The young man tries to understand well about the court in the first set and makes his moves accordingly. This time Alcaraz had struggled hard to beat Rinderknech, and I'm sure the competence from Rinderknech will keep him prepared to face other players.

I thought Alcaraz would lose after early in the third set his opponent managed to break serve to lead 2-0 immediately. Alcaraz is improving quite good on this surface but I'm not sure he will make it to the final or even the championship, next he will face Jiří Lehečka, and it seems the two have never met each other because I can't find history from H2H but if Alcaraz does better he will win this match.
ATP Halle, Struff is back doing quite impressive things, the public will really support him to go further or to get his first ATP title but he has to go through some tough matches and he is same draw with another German Zverev.

It was a great match. And the finish of this match was even greater. There was a genuine chance for Alcaraz Garfia to actually lose this match. But I have to say he did really well. Of course, this also shows the potential that he has. Sometimes coming back into a match like this where your opponent is actually performing well is often a little tricky. But once again this performance shows why he is one of the worlds best. And the last set was absolutely incredible from Alcatraz. There were a lot of moments when I thought he was actually going to lose, but he was able to overcome all the problems.

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Quote from: romero121 on June 20, 2023, 06:59:30 PM

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Alcaraz v Rinderknech was a very entertaining match today. Alcaraz lost the first set 4:6 but then managed to win 7:5 and finally won the deciding set on a tie-break 7:6. The Frenchman was using his nice and powerful serve a lot, he also played serve and volley and lots of net play in general. This tactics was genius and Alcaraz mostly couldn't come up with any successful response. In the tie-breaker, Alcaraz proved he's world's #2 for a reason getting into the lead 6:1 and eventually winning 7:3.

That's an incredible comeback and it proves the ability of Alcaraz. The young man tries to understand well about the court in the first set and makes his moves accordingly. This time Alcaraz had struggled hard to beat Rinderknech, and I'm sure the competence from Rinderknech will keep him prepared to face other players.

I thought Alcaraz would lose after early in the third set his opponent managed to break serve to lead 2-0 immediately. Alcaraz is improving quite good on this surface but I'm not sure he will make it to the final or even the championship, next he will face Jiří Lehečka, and it seems the two have never met each other because I can't find history from H2H but if Alcaraz does better he will win this match.

ATP Halle, Struff is back doing quite impressive things, the public will really support him to go further or to get his first ATP title but he has to go through some tough matches and he is same draw with another German Zverev.

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Quote from: serveria.com on June 20, 2023, 06:28:22 PM

Alcaraz v Rinderknech was a very entertaining match today. Alcaraz lost the first set 4:6 but then managed to win 7:5 and finally won the deciding set on a tie-break 7:6. The Frenchman was using his nice and powerful serve a lot, he also played serve and volley and lots of net play in general. This tactics was genius and Alcaraz mostly couldn't come up with any successful response. In the tie-breaker, Alcaraz proved he's world's #2 for a reason getting into the lead 6:1 and eventually winning 7:3.

That's an incredible comeback and it proves the ability of Alcaraz. The young man tries to understand well about the court in the first set and makes his moves accordingly. This time Alcaraz had struggled hard to beat Rinderknech, and I'm sure the competence from Rinderknech will keep him prepared to face other players.

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Meanhile in Birmingham, 43yo(!!!) Venus Williams won her first round match against Camilla Giorgi. It's unbelievable how Venus can be competitive at this age! I've heard somewhere it's her first 1st round win in 2 years time! Impressive. Cool

Unfortunately, there was a nasty incident during the match, when Venus fell down and Giorgi yelled "come on". Shocked

After a long break she gave her entry in the Rosmalen Grass Court Championships. Here she lost the match to Celine Naef after winning the first set. She is really great to play at this age, and how her fitness is supporting. In the next match she is to play against Ostapenko. This is going to be really though for Venus as the contender is one among the strongest and young player.

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Alcaraz v Rinderknech was a very entertaining match today. Alcaraz lost the first set 4:6 but then managed to win 7:5 and finally won the deciding set on a tie-break 7:6. The Frenchman was using his nice and powerful serve a lot, he also played serve and volley and lots of net play in general. This tactics was genius and Alcaraz mostly couldn't come up with any successful response. In the tie-breaker, Alcaraz proved he's world's #2 for a reason getting into the lead 6:1 and eventually winning 7:3.

Meanhile in Birmingham, 43yo(!!!) Venus Williams won her first round match against Camilla Giorgi. It's unbelievable how Venus can be competitive at this age! I've heard somewhere it's her first 1st round win in 2 years time! Impressive. Cool

Unfortunately, there was a nasty incident during the match, when Venus fell down and Giorgi yelled "come on". Shocked

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berrettini retired from Queen's Club Championship! The former winner of Wimbledon has not been able to play this tournament.
Bad news for him and all supporters. It seems the player has hit a loong streak of defeat and retirements.
Now he is at 34 place in ATP (last place was 21th). I think this an interesting data for all gamblers.
First of all, he is now in bad shape so it's could be interested bet against him.
Secondly, when he will come back to play as usual, this can be a bargain chance...
But... we don't know "when"... so let's wait.
Interesting fact Roll Eyes

(like we have seen with Tsitsi)... he starts to play bad after he has get officially linked to "Melissa Satta" a famous italian starlet.

over at Queens - Murray will be playing de Minaur today, thats a tough draw for him but
I think the markets really dont know, the odds are even really, 1.86 to 1.88... I think I will
make a bet on Murray, he is playing in good form ATM.

Tiafoe also plays today in an easy enough draw against Van de Zandschulp, he
should win this one at 1.45.

Both were disappointing. Andy Murray who had been with his consecutive wins have lost to de Minaur 6-3 6-1 in a much easier way, kind of one sided game. The young player of Australia have defeated Andy Murray during the Monte Carlo Masters in the same way.

Tiafoe have made it a winning match against Van de Zandschulp 6-2 6-4. Tiafoe to play against his home country player Korda in the group of 16. Winning the match makes him reach the quarter finals where the competence will be at its best.

Yea Queens is a big step up from Challenger level, which is where Murray is currently
at, luckily I didnt bet on him today.

I did bet on Tiafoe though, it was an easy enough win today for him, van de Zandschulp
is really not performing well this year.

Tiafoe should beat Korda tomorrow even though Korda is building his performance but
I think he still has a bit more to go.

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Wu looks to be an interesting player this year. He lost to Rublev in Halle, but he did not make it so easy for him. Let see how he develops.

Zverev - Thiem. Clear victory for Zverev. The next match is against Shapovalov. I am curious to see how Zverev performs. He is a bit too big for the grass court matches. At almost two metres he has to do all the movevents a bit lower because the ball does not bounce so high.

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Quote from: aoluain on June 20, 2023, 01:15:56 AM

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berrettini retired from Queen's Club Championship! The former winner of Wimbledon has not been able to play this tournament.
Bad news for him and all supporters. It seems the player has hit a loong streak of defeat and retirements.
Now he is at 34 place in ATP (last place was 21th). I think this an interesting data for all gamblers.
First of all, he is now in bad shape so it's could be interested bet against him.
Secondly, when he will come back to play as usual, this can be a bargain chance...
But... we don't know "when"... so let's wait.
Interesting fact Roll Eyes

(like we have seen with Tsitsi)... he starts to play bad after he has get officially linked to "Melissa Satta" a famous italian starlet.

over at Queens - Murray will be playing de Minaur today, thats a tough draw for him but
I think the markets really dont know, the odds are even really, 1.86 to 1.88... I think I will
make a bet on Murray, he is playing in good form ATM.

Tiafoe also plays today in an easy enough draw against Van de Zandschulp, he
should win this one at 1.45.

Both were disappointing. Andy Murray who had been with his consecutive wins have lost to de Minaur 6-3 6-1 in a much easier way, kind of one sided game. The young player of Australia have defeated Andy Murray during the Monte Carlo Masters in the same way.

Tiafoe have made it a winning match against Van de Zandschulp 6-2 6-4. Tiafoe to play against his home country player Korda in the group of 16. Winning the match makes him reach the quarter finals where the competence will be at its best.

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Quote from: casperBGD on June 20, 2023, 04:00:11 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on June 19, 2023, 11:29:08 AM

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Djokovic' on-grass win rate is at 85.83% and then from the active players who are going to play Wimbledon the next one is Bautista Agut with 69.59%. After that come Gasquet and Kyrgios and considering how strong Djokovic is right now, he is well set to increase his GS title count further this year. I guess only some kind of black out could stop him.

as it looks now, this season look as better chance for Djokovic to win all GS's than in 2021, when he lost final to Medvedev at US Open
and on Wimbledon, looking at form and participants, he is a main favorite, really can't see who can win over him in London

maybe there will be a surprise, but doesn't look were likely to be honest, it is just that he will probably not play any tournament on grass before Wimbledon, but he is experienced enough not to lose in first few rounds, no matter opponent

Novak Djokovic is on a good run right now. He is playing really well, and I think we can see that he does not think of himself as an old player. I really liked his idea when he said that 35 is the new 25 Grin

. Anyway, I think he is performing really well right now. I also cannot see anyone who will actually be able to beat him.

I don’t think there will be any surprises. I understand it is not that easy to predict. Because things can go wrong easily at any moment. But the way he is playing right now it is going to be an educated guess to say that he is going to have a fairly good performance and he is also going to be consistent.

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There are several matches that will soon start in ATP Singles.
I was interested in one match between Lorenzo Sonego against Aslan Karatsev and I decided to bet on Lorenzo Sonego because so far I noticed he was playing quite well even if he got this far.
I kind of assume that Aslan Karatsev will struggle a bit later to fight Lorenzo Sonego.

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Congratulations to Andy Murray on winning the tournament in Nottingham!

Andy Murray won the Nottingham Open for back-to-back grass-court titles to maintain a perfect Wimbledon build-up.
A week after victory in the Surbiton Trophy, the 36-year-old hoisted more silverware with a 6-4 6-4 victory over France's Arthur Cazaux in Nottingham.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/65943406

It's great to see that Andy Murray, after so many injuries and after not playing for so long, is not giving up and is still trying to play at the highest level. After this victory, he will enter the top 40 tennis players in the world.
His biggest prize will be a performance at the upcoming Wimbledon, although his chances of a big result at Wimbledon are probably very small.
I wonder how long we will see tennis masters like him or Nadal on the court.

Much expected win. This have helped him move few ranks high on the world tennis rank list. Young players are dominating the court and it is really hard for him to win more matches. However his thoughts and staying positive at this age with much of injuries and recovery breaks shows his love to tennis. A good win and congratulations. I'm not sure how it happened, but it was said that the kids of Andy Murray have come to the match to give him a father's day support and wishing him the same. Really great!!!

I am glad for Murray he won but I don't think he has any chance to win Wimbledon; he can win a couple of matches but that will be it. Yes, he has 10 victories on a row on grass, but against unknown and low ranked players. I just checked and the highest ranked player was nr 69... We will see in the Queen's tournament what he can achieve as also more top50 players are playing there.

Indeed, your perspective is distinct, and I largely concur. Given Murray's display, it appears his reign over tennis might be past. His recent wins, while noteworthy, didn't come against high-caliber opponents, did they?

However, tennis transcends mere rankings. It's about performance on the day. It's improbable, but Murray might spring a surprise at Queen's. It's undoubtedly a hefty task. Yet, isn't life all about unpredictability?

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Quote from: casperBGD on June 20, 2023, 04:00:11 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on June 19, 2023, 11:29:08 AM

~snip
Djokovic' on-grass win rate is at 85.83% and then from the active players who are going to play Wimbledon the next one is Bautista Agut with 69.59%. After that come Gasquet and Kyrgios and considering how strong Djokovic is right now, he is well set to increase his GS title count further this year. I guess only some kind of black out could stop him.

as it looks now, this season look as better chance for Djokovic to win all GS's than in 2021, when he lost final to Medvedev at US Open
and on Wimbledon, looking at form and participants, he is a main favorite, really can't see who can win over him in London

maybe there will be a surprise, but doesn't look were likely to be honest, it is just that he will probably not play any tournament on grass before Wimbledon, but he is experienced enough not to lose in first few rounds, no matter opponent

No he won against Berrettini in Wimbledon in 2021 and he also won the Australian Open and the French Open, but did lose against Medvedev at the US Open. So in total that was three GS titles in 2021. He also won three in 2011 and in 2015 and now I think it is very possible that he will take him all four GS titles. He won on clay now and he doesn't have any weaknesses in the sense that he is "bad" on any surface. Grass is his strongest surface and if he doesn't get an injury I can't think of anyone to stoP him unless he has a very bad day and that doesn't happen very often. On hard court his win rate is about as good as on grass and I am getting the feeling that he will keep adding titles for a while now. Alcaraz said he was injured at the French Open but he is playing again already. I think that he was puzzled by the strength of Djokovic because even when he won the 2nd set it was insane how he had to play to even win that set. It is humanly not possible to keep such a performance for five sets usually. Even when he hit every ball perfectly he was far from winning the point.

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Quote from: mv1986 on June 19, 2023, 11:29:08 AM

~snip
Djokovic' on-grass win rate is at 85.83% and then from the active players who are going to play Wimbledon the next one is Bautista Agut with 69.59%. After that come Gasquet and Kyrgios and considering how strong Djokovic is right now, he is well set to increase his GS title count further this year. I guess only some kind of black out could stop him.

as it looks now, this season look as better chance for Djokovic to win all GS's than in 2021, when he lost final to Medvedev at US Open
and on Wimbledon, looking at form and participants, he is a main favorite, really can't see who can win over him in London

maybe there will be a surprise, but doesn't look were likely to be honest, it is just that he will probably not play any tournament on grass before Wimbledon, but he is experienced enough not to lose in first few rounds, no matter opponent

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berrettini retired from Queen's Club Championship! The former winner of Wimbledon has not been able to play this tournament.

He never won Wimbledon - he lost in the final against Đoković.

You are right, I made a mistake while writing my post - finalisti and not winner (and at least for Italians he has won Wimbledon Roll Eyes

).

Of course Djokovic Is absolutely a favorite in this tournament but I will always take a look in younger player or some outsider. I Will not surprised if there Is a surprise this year Wink

but lets see, It would for sure a great show as usually

Exactly, let's not forget Nole is 36yo and at that age anything can happen during the 2 weeks of GS. I guess he has some special training schedule before and during the Slams so he doesn't get injured but anyway. The risk at this age is too high - one awkward move and you pull a muscle and bye Wimbledon title. I'm not saying it can't happen to anyone else but the age is just amplifying this issue. Let's wait and see how it goes, we also need to know the draw.

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 19, 2023, 04:27:32 AM

berrettini retired from Queen's Club Championship! The former winner of Wimbledon has not been able to play this tournament.
Bad news for him and all supporters. It seems the player has hit a loong streak of defeat and retirements.
Now he is at 34 place in ATP (last place was 21th). I think this an interesting data for all gamblers.
First of all, he is now in bad shape so it's could be interested bet against him.
Secondly, when he will come back to play as usual, this can be a bargain chance...
But... we don't know "when"... so let's wait.
Interesting fact Roll Eyes

(like we have seen with Tsitsi)... he starts to play bad after he has get officially linked to "Melissa Satta" a famous italian starlet.

So is Berrettini still recovering from injury, os is just not fit or is he massively distracted
with . . . other things?

over at Queens - Murray will be playing de Minaur today, thats a tough draw for him but
I think the markets really dont know, the odds are even really, 1.86 to 1.88... I think I will
make a bet on Murray, he is playing in good form ATM.

Tiafoe also plays today in an easy enough draw against Van de Zandschulp, he
should win this one at 1.45.

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Quote from: posi on June 19, 2023, 09:25:04 AM

I am not very much into this, but I also don’t know the specific reason for him to retire. I was googling about him and it was actually a little surprising that he decided to retire at 27. I know that he had suffered a lot of injuries. Can anyone tell me how severe was the date problem of his injuries that he had to retire so early?

Actually what is more appropriate is to withdraw rather than retire, the reason is always injured and by withdrawing from the tournament where last year he was the champion will make his ranking even worse, it is quite unfortunate because if he is fit he can become one of the strong challengers in the Wimbledon tournament later, unfortunately after his best career at the Wimbledon final two years ago, he often withdrew from tournaments due to injury.

ATP Halle, the first and second seeds advanced to the next round but unlike Medvedev who was able to finish the match by only going through two sets, Tsitsipas had to work hard to win because lost in the first set from Barrère, while Alcaraz at ATP Queens will have his first match today and facing Fils seemed like it was no obstacle for him.

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Quote from: babygun on June 19, 2023, 07:20:34 AM

I am glad for Murray he won but I don't think he has any chance to win Wimbledon; he can win a couple of matches but that will be it. Yes, he has 10 victories on a row on grass, but against unknown and low ranked players. I just checked and the highest ranked player was nr 69... We will see in the Queen's tournament what he can achieve as also more top50 players are playing there.

I think that it is already perfectly clear to everyone that Andy Murray's best days as a tennis player are already over, and if, with a successful combination of circumstances, you can still talk about winning a tournament, but you can forget about winning a singles tournament. However, there are other categories;))

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