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Quote from: aoluain on August 24, 2022, 04:00:46 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on August 23, 2022, 07:21:38 PM

Anyone read this news?

Nick Kyrgios to be sued by Wimbledon tennis fan after '700 drinks' comment

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Nick Kyrgios is set for more courtroom drama after a Wimbledon fan he accused of having '700 drinks' revealed she is is suing the Australian tennis star.

Polish lawyer Anna Palus released a statement confirming legal action against the 27-year-old for his comments made during the Wimbledon final he lost against Novak Djokovic.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tennis/news/nick-kyrgios-be-sued-wimbledon-tennis-fan-after-700-drinks-comment/tedbzrvxafiohbzyz2vqvq6w

For sure even if Nick will win this case, it will take a lot of toll from him and might not perform at peak continue in the US Open. Not sure about the case if it has merit or not. So we shall see what happens next. When Nick was really doing good lately in the last couple of tournaments, this is going to bite him for sure.

I think the case has merit, the claimant is a lawyer so Nick could very well be in rough waters
with this one.

Same thoughts, Nick could have chosen other fans in the crowd, unfortunately, he got the wrong individual because she is a lawyer and probably saw something that he can put Nick, whether money or jail time, something that she can get back at him.

Quote from: aoluain on August 24, 2022, 04:00:46 AM

He has such a big mouth on court and it was only a matter of time before there were more
consequences from all his antics on court. Its one thing being a "showman" on court but
when he starts throwing accusations at people he really needs to consider the possible backlash.

I have warmed to him recently but I dont feel sorry for him regarding this.

And this could be the biggest consequences of his career. I'm not sure if he is trying to be a showman or something, but he has done it since the beginning of his career.. The thing is, he can't back up all the talks and he could be fairly familiar with how some fans are really in the court.

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Quote from: shogun47 on August 24, 2022, 03:00:29 PM

Quote from: bct_ail on August 23, 2022, 04:25:45 AM

Quote from: shogun47 on August 23, 2022, 03:36:33 AM

In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

That is the normal course of time. Good well-known tennis players leave and new ones come who are also good at some point and will be remembered. And every nation has its tennisstar at some point. I still remember the time of Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. Before them tennis was less well-known on German TV. But Boris Becker's victory in Wimbledon changed a lot of and tennis was on TV much more often until the nineties.

Of course, but there are still players that go down in history forever. The probability is not very high that we will soon see a player who takes home 25 Grand Slam titles or even more. It Is not impossible, never, but is it likely? No. Look at Serena Williams, everyone was sure she is going to be the one and only record holder in GS titles and then her performances crashed. It is really, really hard to break those existing records and Nadal and Djokovic aren't done yet.

Nadal is a great example in this regard. Let me ask you: do you really think that it will ever be possible for someone to beat Nadal's French Open record? I mean, I myself just said never say never and nothing is impossible, but I must confess I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that someone is going to win the French Open 15 times (assuming that Nadal wins no more FO titles). That is just not humanly possible anymore (at least it seems impossible Cheesy

).

I actually like the idea of titles being spread out between many brilliant players rather
than the sport being dominated by a handful of players including both mens and womens.
Of course its not great from a betting perspective, it would be harder to pick winners. I'm
not sure though that the game would suffer from it??

Quote from: Jating on August 24, 2022, 04:00:09 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on August 24, 2022, 09:31:18 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on August 24, 2022, 06:16:31 AM

^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nah, I don't think that Nick will change for the better, maybe he can control his temper from time to time. However, his comment was about Anna Palus could be heard and maybe she felt ashamed. But then again, Nick is somewhat assaulting verbally in the crowd, even his coach and girlfriend.

So I doubt that she will just pursue that kind of money, she is a laywer after all and could really drag Nick in this case and there could be courtroom drama.

No I dont think so either, he really does need to tone down the verbal abuse though,
its just ugly.

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Quote from: mv1986 on August 24, 2022, 09:31:18 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on August 24, 2022, 06:16:31 AM

^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nah, I don't think that Nick will change for the better, maybe he can control his temper from time to time. However, his comment was about Anna Palus could be heard and maybe she felt ashamed. But then again, Nick is somewhat assaulting verbally in the crowd, even his coach and girlfriend.

So I doubt that she will just pursue that kind of money, she is a laywer after all and could really drag Nick in this case and there could be courtroom drama.

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Quote from: bct_ail on August 23, 2022, 04:25:45 AM

Quote from: shogun47 on August 23, 2022, 03:36:33 AM

In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

That is the normal course of time. Good well-known tennis players leave and new ones come who are also good at some point and will be remembered. And every nation has its tennisstar at some point. I still remember the time of Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. Before them tennis was less well-known on German TV. But Boris Becker's victory in Wimbledon changed a lot of and tennis was on TV much more often until the nineties.

Of course, but there are still players that go down in history forever. The probability is not very high that we will soon see a player who takes home 25 Grand Slam titles or even more. It Is not impossible, never, but is it likely? No. Look at Serena Williams, everyone was sure she is going to be the one and only record holder in GS titles and then her performances crashed. It is really, really hard to break those existing records and Nadal and Djokovic aren't done yet.

Nadal is a great example in this regard. Let me ask you: do you really think that it will ever be possible for someone to beat Nadal's French Open record? I mean, I myself just said never say never and nothing is impossible, but I must confess I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that someone is going to win the French Open 15 times (assuming that Nadal wins no more FO titles). That is just not humanly possible anymore (at least it seems impossible Cheesy

).

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Quote from: mv1986 on August 24, 2022, 09:31:18 AM

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nichts problem, I believe, is that he thinks it is somehow popular and the people like to see him freaking out. Or he really has mental issues. Otherwise he is just throwing away a world class career for the wrong reasons. It was fun to watch him rant a couple of times, but by now it's boring to me. It's just so predictable and he freaks out all the time. It is not really entertaining to watch him.

I am also watching him for many years and mostly my feeling about him is he has really mental issues and just because of this mostly he has done things which we never expect from him now things could be changed for him because this case is surely going to have some impact on his form in US Open and if they will give him some serious punishment this can hurt him more but as we all know mostly these type cases settled out of court, so maybe we will have in this case as well because he can't afford things like this as his form is also good in last few weeks and doing much better than expectations.

Any big financial punch could be also can give him some better view about his future because he needs punishment like this for change of mentality in long run if he wants to play tennis for some more years.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 24, 2022, 06:16:31 AM

^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

I would say that whether or not Nick changes something fully depends on the outcome of this potential lawsuit. If it costs him like 10k or 20k USD, he probably doesn't care.
But if this turns out to be a serious punch in the face financially, I think he might change for the better because he HAS to! Otherwise he would be punished even harder for being a repeat offender.

Nichts problem, I believe, is that he thinks it is somehow popular and the people like to see him freaking out. Or he really has mental issues. Otherwise he is just throwing away a world class career for the wrong reasons. It was fun to watch him rant a couple of times, but by now it's boring to me. It's just so predictable and he freaks out all the time. It is not really entertaining to watch him.

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^^ Yeah, it's too bad for Nick that his big mouth will bring him trouble with the fans. And he chooses the wrong fan to accused of as she is a lawyer. But I don't know, maybe Nick will not change his style despite someone suing him for attacking her verbally as a fan. Perhaps the organization will have to step up as well, but then again, what can they do to Nick that they haven't imposed before? ban him for playing?

I'm thinking though that this could be settled out of court. But let's see.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 23, 2022, 07:21:38 PM

Anyone read this news?

Nick Kyrgios to be sued by Wimbledon tennis fan after '700 drinks' comment

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Nick Kyrgios is set for more courtroom drama after a Wimbledon fan he accused of having '700 drinks' revealed she is is suing the Australian tennis star.

Polish lawyer Anna Palus released a statement confirming legal action against the 27-year-old for his comments made during the Wimbledon final he lost against Novak Djokovic.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tennis/news/nick-kyrgios-be-sued-wimbledon-tennis-fan-after-700-drinks-comment/tedbzrvxafiohbzyz2vqvq6w

For sure even if Nick will win this case, it will take a lot of toll from him and might not perform at peak continue in the US Open. Not sure about the case if it has merit or not. So we shall see what happens next. When Nick was really doing good lately in the last couple of tournaments, this is going to bite him for sure.

I think the case has merit, the claimant is a lawyer so Nick could very well be in rough waters
with this one.

He has such a big mouth on court and it was only a matter of time before there were more
consequences from all his antics on court. Its one thing being a "showman" on court but
when he starts throwing accusations at people he really needs to consider the possible backlash.

I have warmed to him recently but I dont feel sorry for him regarding this.

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Anyone read this news?

Nick Kyrgios to be sued by Wimbledon tennis fan after '700 drinks' comment

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Nick Kyrgios is set for more courtroom drama after a Wimbledon fan he accused of having '700 drinks' revealed she is is suing the Australian tennis star.

Polish lawyer Anna Palus released a statement confirming legal action against the 27-year-old for his comments made during the Wimbledon final he lost against Novak Djokovic.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tennis/news/nick-kyrgios-be-sued-wimbledon-tennis-fan-after-700-drinks-comment/tedbzrvxafiohbzyz2vqvq6w

For sure even if Nick will win this case, it will take a lot of toll from him and might not perform at peak continue in the US Open. Not sure about the case if it has merit or not. So we shall see what happens next. When Nick was really doing good lately in the last couple of tournaments, this is going to bite him for sure.

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Safia Kennin seems to be back to her usual self. She's playing really well against a fairly consistent player in Begu. Kennin just won the first set and if fitness isnt an issue, I don't see her losing the match. She's been going through a lot of personal matters as well as foot injury that has kept her away from tennis for a fairly long time. Good to see her back, playing at a good level.

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Quote from: bct_ail on August 23, 2022, 04:25:45 AM

Quote from: shogun47 on August 23, 2022, 03:36:33 AM

In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

That is the normal course of time. Good well-known tennis players leave and new ones come who are also good at some point and will be remembered. And every nation has its tennisstar at some point. I still remember the time of Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. Before them tennis was less well-known on German TV. But Boris Becker's victory in Wimbledon changed a lot of and tennis was on TV much more often until the nineties.

Many players already in cycle for replacing these legendarily because it's life one day we have to be replaced by our siblings, and they have to be replaced by new generation players as right now we have few like Medvedev, Tsitsipas and Thiem these are good players in next few years and have their best for fans around the world. While I was growing then German Stars were ruling on world like Boris Becker and Stefi Graf I really love to watch them but sadly after these two we have no big name and after big gape now we have another player but sadly until now he fails to give any impression.

Alexander Zverev is a quality player but due to injuries and his other activities he fails to have any best possible result because few years back I was positive about his future, but recently he completely fails to have best result.

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Quote from: aoluain on August 23, 2022, 05:01:27 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on August 22, 2022, 10:35:46 PM

Quote from: aoluain on August 22, 2022, 04:13:56 PM

Thats a massive jump up the rankings by Coric, top 30 player now so he should start
climbing further if he can keep his current form, he had some really great winning
shots in that match, and yes the U.S Grand Slam should be very interesting for him and
hopefully we can make some Satoshi's in the early stages with him.

Yes, although I'm a big fan of Tsitsipas, seems that he is really broken up mentally in that game. I mean you had a huge lead in the first set, how can he let Coric come back strong and win it? And in the second set it was all Coric, Tsitsipas has no answer and as you have said, great winning shots so he can't be denied.

Will look for him of course in the next Grand Slam, or maybe he could be the dark horse of that tournament if he get to the quarterfinals.

I also used to be a big fan of Tsitsipas but I think he has changed his attitude in the last
2 years or so. He has become one of those players who is walking on the very edges of
the rules in order to compensate for short comings in his abilities so I have kind of gone off him.

His infamous bathroom breaks and then speculation that he is getting coach that time.

Quote from: aoluain on August 23, 2022, 05:01:27 AM

Nadal does it too but in a more routine based style, he does it all the time, its just his style,
Tsitsipas does it only when things are going against him.

I agree that probably Tsitsipas has lost his game because he doesn't have the strength within him. When he is broken, hard for him to comeback and overcome his opponents specially if they can match him stride for stride. He really needs to overcome that in order for him to win bigger tournaments in the future.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 22, 2022, 10:35:46 PM

Quote from: aoluain on August 22, 2022, 04:13:56 PM

Thats a massive jump up the rankings by Coric, top 30 player now so he should start
climbing further if he can keep his current form, he had some really great winning
shots in that match, and yes the U.S Grand Slam should be very interesting for him and
hopefully we can make some Satoshi's in the early stages with him.

Yes, although I'm a big fan of Tsitsipas, seems that he is really broken up mentally in that game. I mean you had a huge lead in the first set, how can he let Coric come back strong and win it? And in the second set it was all Coric, Tsitsipas has no answer and as you have said, great winning shots so he can't be denied.

Will look for him of course in the next Grand Slam, or maybe he could be the dark horse of that tournament if he get to the quarterfinals.

I also used to be a big fan of Tsitsipas but I think he has changed his attitude in the last
2 years or so. He has become one of those players who is walking on the very edges of
the rules in order to compensate for short comings in his abilities so I have kind of gone off him.

Nadal does it too but in a more routine based style, he does it all the time, its just his style,
Tsitsipas does it only when things are going against him.

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Quote from: shogun47 on August 23, 2022, 03:36:33 AM

In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

That is the normal course of time. Good well-known tennis players leave and new ones come who are also good at some point and will be remembered. And every nation has its tennisstar at some point. I still remember the time of Boris Becker and Steffi Graf. Before them tennis was less well-known on German TV. But Boris Becker's victory in Wimbledon changed a lot of and tennis was on TV much more often until the nineties.

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Quote from: bct_ail on August 23, 2022, 03:08:32 AM

Alexander Zverev will not take part in the US Open. That is a pity of course, but also rational. Because it was already clear beforehand that it would be very close. He would have had 720 points to defend in New York. These points are now gone. So he could lose the second place to Nadal.
But it looks good that Zverev will take part in the Davis Cup in Hamburg, Germany in September.

Chances were indeed very low. In order to play such a tournament you have to be in the best shape possible. He couldn't achieve that after his injury and having surgery. The ankle is such a critical joint for the tennis player. All the balance and movements is coordinated with the ankles.

It is sad to not see him playing there. I think he could have played a good role on hard court even against Nadal. Against Djokovic I am not so sure, I think Djokovic would take it home if he is allowed to play.

The names that many spectators are interested in are somehow dwindling recently. Nadal is injured more and more often, Federer doesn't return, Djokovic is not allowed to play and some players are injured or not playing consistently on a high level. In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

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Alexander Zverev will not take part in the US Open. That is a pity of course, but also rational. Because it was already clear beforehand that it would be very close. He would have had 720 points to defend in New York. These points are now gone. So he could lose the second place to Nadal.
But it looks good that Zverev will take part in the Davis Cup in Hamburg, Germany in September.

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Quote from: aoluain on August 22, 2022, 04:13:56 PM

Thats a massive jump up the rankings by Coric, top 30 player now so he should start
climbing further if he can keep his current form, he had some really great winning
shots in that match, and yes the U.S Grand Slam should be very interesting for him and
hopefully we can make some Satoshi's in the early stages with him.

Yes, although I'm a big fan of Tsitsipas, seems that he is really broken up mentally in that game. I mean you had a huge lead in the first set, how can he let Coric come back strong and win it? And in the second set it was all Coric, Tsitsipas has no answer and as you have said, great winning shots so he can't be denied.

Will look for him of course in the next Grand Slam, or maybe he could be the dark horse of that tournament if he get to the quarterfinals.

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Thats a massive jump up the rankings by Coric, top 30 player now so he should start
climbing further if he can keep his current form, he had some really great winning
shots in that match, and yes the U.S Grand Slam should be very interesting for him and
hopefully we can make some Satoshi's in the early stages with him.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 22, 2022, 06:29:28 AM

As I said yesterday, Tsitsipas on hard is exactly the type of opponent you hope to get in an ATP1000 tournament final.
Čorić was playing well throughout the tournament and really does deserve this, it is his first tournament win since 2018.

Quote from: casperBGD on August 22, 2022, 05:45:53 AM

should put close eye on him at US open

I think he'll jump like 100 places with these points which should earn him automatic qualification to US Open. A tournament win at the right time Grin

After this win now Coric has big jumped with ATP 29 Tsitsipas is much better play but have no good touch in this final against Coric which give him bad defeat and Coric done good job throughout tournament and have his title after few year's absence. There is no doubt he deserves a close eye in US Open because few years back he was one of the best rising player but with unknown off the field problems he was out but back with bang.

Tsitsipas was in bad shape and have no answers which were asked by Coric in this final even he breaks his serve early but then lost first set in tiebreaker after losing first set in second Coric not allowed him to fight back and won this title.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 22, 2022, 06:29:28 AM

As I said yesterday, Tsitsipas on hard is exactly the type of opponent you hope to get in an ATP1000 tournament final.
Čorić was playing well throughout the tournament and really does deserve this, it is his first tournament win since 2018.

Quote from: casperBGD on August 22, 2022, 05:45:53 AM

should put close eye on him at US open

I think he'll jump like 100 places with these points which should earn him automatic qualification to US Open. A tournament win at the right time Grin

What's extremely shocking about the game against Tsitsipas is how Tsitsipas gave away the first tie-break. He isn't bad at serving at all unless he is just about losing his nerves and that is what happened when he was down 0-2 in the tie-break. If he can't be more solid during exactly those moments in big tournaments, then how is he ever going to turn into a world number 1 candidate? So many people thought he is the next shining star, but certainly not this way. Even the second set was pure disappointment but it could be expected as it is typical for him to lose focus after getting beaten that way in the first set.

I think it is disturbing that there is still no clarity about Djokovic's participation at the US Open. Whatever the decision will be by the people in charge, but why wait until the very last moment? He would be the favorite for sure. Although I really hope that Nadal doesn't have to give up halfway through because of any of his injuries that recently seem to be reappearing again and again.

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