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Quote from: bct_ail on August 23, 2022, 03:08:32 AM

Alexander Zverev will not take part in the US Open. That is a pity of course, but also rational. Because it was already clear beforehand that it would be very close. He would have had 720 points to defend in New York. These points are now gone. So he could lose the second place to Nadal.
But it looks good that Zverev will take part in the Davis Cup in Hamburg, Germany in September.

Chances were indeed very low. In order to play such a tournament you have to be in the best shape possible. He couldn't achieve that after his injury and having surgery. The ankle is such a critical joint for the tennis player. All the balance and movements is coordinated with the ankles.

It is sad to not see him playing there. I think he could have played a good role on hard court even against Nadal. Against Djokovic I am not so sure, I think Djokovic would take it home if he is allowed to play.

The names that many spectators are interested in are somehow dwindling recently. Nadal is injured more and more often, Federer doesn't return, Djokovic is not allowed to play and some players are injured or not playing consistently on a high level. In a couple of years the time of Djokovic and Nadal will also be over. I think the tennis world will be quite different by then and less people will be watching it.

I personally started watching tennis quite a lot exactly because of players like Federer. But that's how it is in sports. Messi and Ronaldo are soon gone. Schumacher was once gone in Formula 1 and Hamilton will also soon be gone. Hopefully those gaps will be filled with new superstars.

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Alexander Zverev will not take part in the US Open. That is a pity of course, but also rational. Because it was already clear beforehand that it would be very close. He would have had 720 points to defend in New York. These points are now gone. So he could lose the second place to Nadal.
But it looks good that Zverev will take part in the Davis Cup in Hamburg, Germany in September.

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Quote from: aoluain on August 22, 2022, 04:13:56 PM

Thats a massive jump up the rankings by Coric, top 30 player now so he should start
climbing further if he can keep his current form, he had some really great winning
shots in that match, and yes the U.S Grand Slam should be very interesting for him and
hopefully we can make some Satoshi's in the early stages with him.

Yes, although I'm a big fan of Tsitsipas, seems that he is really broken up mentally in that game. I mean you had a huge lead in the first set, how can he let Coric come back strong and win it? And in the second set it was all Coric, Tsitsipas has no answer and as you have said, great winning shots so he can't be denied.

Will look for him of course in the next Grand Slam, or maybe he could be the dark horse of that tournament if he get to the quarterfinals.

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Thats a massive jump up the rankings by Coric, top 30 player now so he should start
climbing further if he can keep his current form, he had some really great winning
shots in that match, and yes the U.S Grand Slam should be very interesting for him and
hopefully we can make some Satoshi's in the early stages with him.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 22, 2022, 06:29:28 AM

As I said yesterday, Tsitsipas on hard is exactly the type of opponent you hope to get in an ATP1000 tournament final.
Čorić was playing well throughout the tournament and really does deserve this, it is his first tournament win since 2018.

Quote from: casperBGD on August 22, 2022, 05:45:53 AM

should put close eye on him at US open

I think he'll jump like 100 places with these points which should earn him automatic qualification to US Open. A tournament win at the right time Grin

After this win now Coric has big jumped with ATP 29 Tsitsipas is much better play but have no good touch in this final against Coric which give him bad defeat and Coric done good job throughout tournament and have his title after few year's absence. There is no doubt he deserves a close eye in US Open because few years back he was one of the best rising player but with unknown off the field problems he was out but back with bang.

Tsitsipas was in bad shape and have no answers which were asked by Coric in this final even he breaks his serve early but then lost first set in tiebreaker after losing first set in second Coric not allowed him to fight back and won this title.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 22, 2022, 06:29:28 AM

As I said yesterday, Tsitsipas on hard is exactly the type of opponent you hope to get in an ATP1000 tournament final.
Čorić was playing well throughout the tournament and really does deserve this, it is his first tournament win since 2018.

Quote from: casperBGD on August 22, 2022, 05:45:53 AM

should put close eye on him at US open

I think he'll jump like 100 places with these points which should earn him automatic qualification to US Open. A tournament win at the right time Grin

What's extremely shocking about the game against Tsitsipas is how Tsitsipas gave away the first tie-break. He isn't bad at serving at all unless he is just about losing his nerves and that is what happened when he was down 0-2 in the tie-break. If he can't be more solid during exactly those moments in big tournaments, then how is he ever going to turn into a world number 1 candidate? So many people thought he is the next shining star, but certainly not this way. Even the second set was pure disappointment but it could be expected as it is typical for him to lose focus after getting beaten that way in the first set.

I think it is disturbing that there is still no clarity about Djokovic's participation at the US Open. Whatever the decision will be by the people in charge, but why wait until the very last moment? He would be the favorite for sure. Although I really hope that Nadal doesn't have to give up halfway through because of any of his injuries that recently seem to be reappearing again and again.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 22, 2022, 06:29:28 AM

As I said yesterday, Tsitsipas on hard is exactly the type of opponent you hope to get in an ATP1000 tournament final.
Čorić was playing well throughout the tournament and really does deserve this, it is his first tournament win since 2018.

Quote from: casperBGD on August 22, 2022, 05:45:53 AM

should put close eye on him at US open

I think he'll jump like 100 places with these points which should earn him automatic qualification to US Open. A tournament win at the right time Grin

Not just qualification, he is now top 30 and that is enough for him to be seeded. Meaning he should have 3 "easy" matches before needing to play another one of seeded players.

Watched the match and Coric was good, but it was Tsitsipas breakdown that granted him the title. When both played their best tennis Tsitsipas was better but Coric kept his levels through whole match whlie Tsitsi was full of ups and downs.

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As I said yesterday, Tsitsipas on hard is exactly the type of opponent you hope to get in an ATP1000 tournament final.
Čorić was playing well throughout the tournament and really does deserve this, it is his first tournament win since 2018.

Quote from: casperBGD on August 22, 2022, 05:45:53 AM

should put close eye on him at US open

I think he'll jump like 100 places with these points which should earn him automatic qualification to US Open. A tournament win at the right time Grin

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congrats to Coric, did bot believed in him, but he earned this title, kicked-out Nadal, and few other top players, with Tsitsi last night
did not looked that way in the beginning, but he stormed through tie-break and saved three break points in his first serve in second set, that eventually leaved Tsitsi broken down

should put close eye on him at US open

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Quote from: aoluain on August 22, 2022, 03:40:07 AM

Brilliant from Coric, In his first service game of the first set he got broken, he couldnt hit
a winner ans Tsitsipas was exceptional, it looked like he was reading Coric's play but
Coric came back into it and blasted his way through the tie break. I went to bed after
that and hoped he could win the second too.

Cant believe he did so easily 2-6.

Did anyone have Coric to win in any way?

Wow, huge win for Coric, I never expect him to win the tournament. And during the firs set I was able to caught the score at 4-1 Tsisitipas. And then when I came back, it's 6-6 and I said that Coric is going to win this set and maybe the tournament.

There are really a lot of surprises for this year, at least it was a good year as there are a lot of players winner 250, 1000 masters and there is no single dominant player that we have seen so far.

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Brilliant from Coric, In his first service game of the first set he got broken, he couldnt hit
a winner ans Tsitsipas was exceptional, it looked like he was reading Coric's play but
Coric came back into it and blasted his way through the tie break. I went to bed after
that and hoped he could win the second too.

Cant believe he did so easily 2-6.

Did anyone have Coric to win in any way?

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Amazing to see Coric win a Masters event. Tsitsipas played pretty well but Coric looked fresh throughout the match, not dropping his level. Isn't it very rare for a player rated over 100-150 to win a Masters event? Well, Coric always had the skills to be in top 20. He was ranked 12th in the world, not too long ago. Good to see him back in form.

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Quote from: Ratash on August 21, 2022, 05:56:44 PM

What happened to tsitsipas in today final he was doing good on the first set against coric and he was leading 4 2 after managing to break coric serve and then his performance started going down he lost his serve and lost 7 0 in the tie breaks not to mention the second set that was a disaster, either way coric did well today he seem in a great shape a totally deserved win.

Tsitsipas gave hard fight, and he looks so tired. It was same as the set against Medvedev, but things didn't worked out this time. If I'm not wrong, Coric have pre-planned the match after the defeat of Medvedev. In the past we used to see only certain players in the finals. Now those scenario have changed. In the doubles semifinal Tsitsipas and Rune have given a walkover which according to me seemsto be out of injury or being tired don't let him perform.

Tsitsipas wasn't into it at all. A 2-0 win by Coric is shocking. Odds must be like 8x?

Anyways, he deserve to lose

Check this out : https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/wubdbt/interestingly_tsitsipas_is_on_toilet_break/

He was getting coached again by his daddy during the break(which is not legal if the player is off court).

Coric's recent climb is magnificent, from #159 to #29 is amazing. Proud of him Cheesy

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Quote from: Ratash on August 21, 2022, 05:56:44 PM

What happened to tsitsipas in today final he was doing good on the first set against coric and he was leading 4 2 after managing to break coric serve and then his performance started going down he lost his serve and lost 7 0 in the tie breaks not to mention the second set that was a disaster, either way coric did well today he seem in a great shape a totally deserved win.

he gave up in the second half, Tsitsipas got three chances to break in the first game of the 2nd set but failed, we could have seen something different if he succeeded, but when Coric kept putting pressure on Tsitsipas serve while winning his easily, it destroyed the hope and motivation for Tsitsipas to comeback, great tournament and run for Coric, well deserved.

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Quote from: Ratash on August 21, 2022, 05:56:44 PM

What happened to tsitsipas in today final he was doing good on the first set against coric and he was leading 4 2 after managing to break coric serve and then his performance started going down he lost his serve and lost 7 0 in the tie breaks not to mention the second set that was a disaster, either way coric did well today he seem in a great shape a totally deserved win.

Tsitsipas gave hard fight, and he looks so tired. It was same as the set against Medvedev, but things didn't worked out this time. If I'm not wrong, Coric have pre-planned the match after the defeat of Medvedev. In the past we used to see only certain players in the finals. Now those scenario have changed. In the doubles semifinal Tsitsipas and Rune have given a walkover which according to me seemsto be out of injury or being tired don't let him perform.

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What happened to tsitsipas in today final he was doing good on the first set against coric and he was leading 4 2 after managing to break coric serve and then his performance started going down he lost his serve and lost 7 0 in the tie breaks not to mention the second set that was a disaster, either way coric did well today he seem in a great shape a totally deserved win.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on August 21, 2022, 12:20:29 PM

Tsitsipas is an uninhibited and unpredictable player. Was still seen as the future number 1 in the world. He does have the talent, but at times seems to be very impatient. Of course, that could have everything to do with his age. He has not yet won a grand slam but was in the final of Roland Garros in 2021. As long as Nadal continues to play tennis, he can forget about Roland Garros for the time being. But Alcaraz also scores high on Gravel. I wonder how they will both do at the US open. And Djokovic can cry at home in front of the TV. Or should he be present as a spectator? Roll Eyes

Well he was really great in the past two years, but seems to not passed when facing tough opponents like Djokovic, Nadal or even Medvedev, and he is best known to be a clay court player, and yeah very inconsistent in his year.

The game has started already, Tsitsipas has the lead in the first set. Let's see if this is the tournament that he can win against Boric. Boric though is a tough cookie to break. In the women's it was Caroline Garcia defeating Kvitova for the title.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on August 21, 2022, 12:20:29 PM

Tsitsipas is an uninhibited and unpredictable player. Was still seen as the future number 1 in the world. He does have the talent, but at times seems to be very impatient. Of course, that could have everything to do with his age. He has not yet won a grand slam but was in the final of Roland Garros in 2021. As long as Nadal continues to play tennis, he can forget about Roland Garros for the time being. But Alcaraz also scores high on Gravel. I wonder how they will both do at the US open. And Djokovic can cry at home in front of the TV. Or should he be present as a spectator? Roll Eyes

We can of course argue that age might play a role, and when we look at Murray it was a bit similar. Murray lost four grand slam finals before he won the US Open I think, but it's not like Tsitsipas is 19 anymore. Murray was 25 when he won his first final and I think given that he already played a good number of big finals, it is also about time for him. Otherwise he might turn into this guy who loses finals forever and ever. What catches eye though is that the finals he won were usually against weaker players while most of the finals he lost were against the big three guys. Even when it seemed to be close against Djokovic in Roland Garros, it actually wasn't. Djokovic turned it around with ease more or less even when he was down 0 - 2.
Tsitsipas needs to find a much more dominant game against the strongest guys in the world. My assumption is that Nadal and Djokovic will still be around in three years from now. Djokovic for sure and Nadal might choose the tournaments he is going to play very wisely.

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Tsitsipas is an uninhibited and unpredictable player. Was still seen as the future number 1 in the world. He does have the talent, but at times seems to be very impatient. Of course, that could have everything to do with his age. He has not yet won a grand slam but was in the final of Roland Garros in 2021. As long as Nadal continues to play tennis, he can forget about Roland Garros for the time being. But Alcaraz also scores high on Gravel. I wonder how they will both do at the US open. And Djokovic can cry at home in front of the TV. Or should he be present as a spectator? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 21, 2022, 10:09:32 AM

Čorić really does have a great shot at the title. I expected Medvedev to win against Tsitsipas - on hard I feel he's a much tougher opponent.

They played 2 times against each other, Tsitsipas won on clay (Čorić forfeted during the 1st set) while Čorić has a win in 2020 US Open.

Although Tsitsipas has a much higher ranking, I like Čorić's chances today.

Would have been all over that ML on Coric if I knew his physical levels. He hasn't played this many matches in a row in last 5 years probably. Could be fatigue setting in but otherwise Tsitsipas at hard surface is probably very ok draw for ATP 1000 series final. Especially after already winning against Nadal, FAA and Norie. Should be a good match and I plan to watch it tonight.

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