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Quote from: vennali on July 31, 2022, 07:07:23 AM

Quote from: Jating on July 31, 2022, 05:35:52 AM

Same here, I'm looking at Sinner +2.5 right now, if this is going to be close and Alcaraz is not as dominant in this tournament then Sinner could have a good chance to steal this one from him.

So this can still go either way, and who started very strong and can hold it mentally, can win this match. Over and then ML at 2.23 might be good value bet for Sinner.

My heart says Sinner will win but my brain says no way Alcaraz loses this on Clay of all surfaces. Sinner did beat Alcaraz this year, but it was on grass. Should be an entertaining match, irrespective of the result.

Yea I'm backing Sinner as the underdog, a small bet +3.5 @1.56. I'm thinking as Alcaraz
is struggling to close out matches Sinner will be a fairly tough challenge for him, it should
be an interesting match for sure.

Over in Atlanta De Minaur taken on Brooksby, that should be interesting too, Brooksby
seems to play well in "Home" tournaments and so is favoirite, I took a +3.5 handicap
on De Minaur @1.48.

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Quote from: Jating on July 31, 2022, 05:35:52 AM

Same here, I'm looking at Sinner +2.5 right now, if this is going to be close and Alcaraz is not as dominant in this tournament then Sinner could have a good chance to steal this one from him.

So this can still go either way, and who started very strong and can hold it mentally, can win this match. Over and then ML at 2.23 might be good value bet for Sinner.

My heart says Sinner will win but my brain says no way Alcaraz loses this on Clay of all surfaces. Sinner did beat Alcaraz this year, but it was on grass. Should be an entertaining match, irrespective of the result.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 31, 2022, 03:38:12 AM

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Quote from: doomloop on July 31, 2022, 01:21:14 AM

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In other final which is going to play at Umag (Croatia), clay we have two new generation players those are going to be had good future in tennis, and surely we will watch them for long time in this game. Here competition is very exciting as Sinner is in good touch, and he can do good job for win this title and Alcaraz is also having good touch even he lost few days back a final but now surely nothing is easy he can fight back, and we will watch entertaining match with I am feeling over 2.5 is very good option for bet.

great final in Umag, two young stars on small tournament, it will probably be great to watch, and third setter should be expected
Alcaraz is a bit closer to a win, which odds show as well, but he lost his previous final to another Italian future star Mussetti, and will be under pressure to win it this week
Sinner has also something to prove, and probably Italians will come to support him, since this is near the border

over 2.5 seems as best option, agree

I am thinking between over games and handicap on Sinner. As I said Alcaraz is not playing as dominantly as he was earlier in the season so maybe Sinner has his chance. There is a lot of Italians in the crows since Umag is one of the destinations on our coast that they like to visit. Sinner was very convincing in his previous matches as well. In the end this can go either way and smart thing would be to just skip betting on this one.

Same here, I'm looking at Sinner +2.5 right now, if this is going to be close and Alcaraz is not as dominant in this tournament then Sinner could have a good chance to steal this one from him.

So this can still go either way, and who started very strong and can hold it mentally, can win this match. Over and then ML at 2.23 might be good value bet for Sinner.

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Quote from: casperBGD on July 31, 2022, 02:52:04 AM

Quote from: doomloop on July 31, 2022, 01:21:14 AM

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In other final which is going to play at Umag (Croatia), clay we have two new generation players those are going to be had good future in tennis, and surely we will watch them for long time in this game. Here competition is very exciting as Sinner is in good touch, and he can do good job for win this title and Alcaraz is also having good touch even he lost few days back a final but now surely nothing is easy he can fight back, and we will watch entertaining match with I am feeling over 2.5 is very good option for bet.

great final in Umag, two young stars on small tournament, it will probably be great to watch, and third setter should be expected
Alcaraz is a bit closer to a win, which odds show as well, but he lost his previous final to another Italian future star Mussetti, and will be under pressure to win it this week
Sinner has also something to prove, and probably Italians will come to support him, since this is near the border

over 2.5 seems as best option, agree

I am thinking between over games and handicap on Sinner. As I said Alcaraz is not playing as dominantly as he was earlier in the season so maybe Sinner has his chance. There is a lot of Italians in the crows since Umag is one of the destinations on our coast that they like to visit. Sinner was very convincing in his previous matches as well. In the end this can go either way and smart thing would be to just skip betting on this one.

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Quote from: doomloop on July 31, 2022, 01:21:14 AM

~snip

In other final which is going to play at Umag (Croatia), clay we have two new generation players those are going to be had good future in tennis, and surely we will watch them for long time in this game. Here competition is very exciting as Sinner is in good touch, and he can do good job for win this title and Alcaraz is also having good touch even he lost few days back a final but now surely nothing is easy he can fight back, and we will watch entertaining match with I am feeling over 2.5 is very good option for bet.

great final in Umag, two young stars on small tournament, it will probably be great to watch, and third setter should be expected
Alcaraz is a bit closer to a win, which odds show as well, but he lost his previous final to another Italian future star Mussetti, and will be under pressure to win it this week
Sinner has also something to prove, and probably Italians will come to support him, since this is near the border

over 2.5 seems as best option, agree

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Quote from: Ratash on July 30, 2022, 06:23:10 PM

We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

Today we have two finals first is going to play Warsaw (Poland), clay where Garcia is going to face Bogdan, and she is clearly favorite for this title specially after beating World No 1 at home. Now she can win this event without any problem.

In other final which is going to play at Umag (Croatia), clay we have two new generation players those are going to be had good future in tennis, and surely we will watch them for long time in this game. Here competition is very exciting as Sinner is in good touch, and he can do good job for win this title and Alcaraz is also having good touch even he lost few days back a final but now surely nothing is easy he can fight back, and we will watch entertaining match with I am feeling over 2.5 is very good option for bet.

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Quote from: Ratash on July 30, 2022, 06:23:10 PM

We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

And Alcaraz is the favorite to win the finals against Sinner, the current odds are 1.56 Alcaraz, Sinner 2.27. Not that bad to bet on Sinner to win or even take a set in this match.

And maybe this game will go to three sets as well. So this is going to be close for me, if I remember, Alcaraz said that for him grass is tougher than any other surface. But he seems to be doing great as well. This two is the young prospect we got so this is going to be very exciting match.

Not sure what to bet on in this final, maybe it is best to just skipp betting and watch the match. Alcaraz should be much better on clay but he was not on his usual level during this tournament. He lost sets against players that I fell should not pass 2 games per set. Sinner was much more convincing so far and looking just at current mucro form shold be able to take this.

Yea Alcaraz for me in this tournament has been below par even when winning. He finds it
difficult to close out matches, a player of his talent and experience should be winning
matches in two sets where its taking 3 sets to get the win.

He doesnt get great odds so we kind of have to play handicap on him to get some
value. I played -3.5 on him yesterday and he only won with 3 games to spare so I lost my bet.

Its hard to know which way to bet today, I didnt check but I would say the odds are quite even.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 30, 2022, 08:27:37 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 30, 2022, 06:23:10 PM

We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

And Alcaraz is the favorite to win the finals against Sinner, the current odds are 1.56 Alcaraz, Sinner 2.27. Not that bad to bet on Sinner to win or even take a set in this match.

And maybe this game will go to three sets as well. So this is going to be close for me, if I remember, Alcaraz said that for him grass is tougher than any other surface. But he seems to be doing great as well. This two is the young prospect we got so this is going to be very exciting match.

Not sure what to bet on in this final, maybe it is best to just skipp betting and watch the match. Alcaraz should be much better on clay but he was not on his usual level during this tournament. He lost sets against players that I fell should not pass 2 games per set. Sinner was much more convincing so far and looking just at current mucro form shold be able to take this.

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Quote from: Ratash on July 30, 2022, 06:23:10 PM

We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

And Alcaraz is the favorite to win the finals against Sinner, the current odds are 1.56 Alcaraz, Sinner 2.27. Not that bad to bet on Sinner to win or even take a set in this match.

And maybe this game will go to three sets as well. So this is going to be close for me, if I remember, Alcaraz said that for him grass is tougher than any other surface. But he seems to be doing great as well. This two is the young prospect we got so this is going to be very exciting match.

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We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

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Quote from: lixer on July 29, 2022, 10:09:41 PM

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Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

There is no doubt shocking defeat for Swiatek at home in front of his fans, but we have to praise C Garcia as well what a display of game from her 2 hours 17 minutes marathon time for win against World no 1 and Roland Garros champion after having record of 0 - 9 is amazing win with the score of 6 - 1, 1 - 6 and 6 - 4.

Even now after defeat another tournament we have to wait for next turn from World no 1 because still she can fight back strongly hopefully this will happen soon because now we are heading for another big event where things could be completely different, and these ladies need to do more effort to win track.

Maybe just a bad night for Iga, however, we can't take this away from Garcia, she is the 5th seed so obviously she is capable of beating any on the team seeds, it just so happen that Iga was her victim in her own country.

As for being World no 1, she has a big lead already so I doubt that someone can take it from her this year. As for Garcia, she will be facing Jasmine Paolini. Jasmine come back from 1-6 defeat in the first set against Viktorija Golubic of Switzerland.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 29, 2022, 03:46:12 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

There is no doubt shocking defeat for Swiatek at home in front of his fans, but we have to praise C Garcia as well what a display of game from her 2 hours 17 minutes marathon time for win against World no 1 and Roland Garros champion after having record of 0 - 9 is amazing win with the score of 6 - 1, 1 - 6 and 6 - 4.

Even now after defeat another tournament we have to wait for next turn from World no 1 because still she can fight back strongly hopefully this will happen soon because now we are heading for another big event where things could be completely different, and these ladies need to do more effort to win track.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 29, 2022, 03:46:12 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

Aww, after a good run and having a stronghold on the top spot in the womens, suddenly we've seen some nerves of Swiatek now.

Perhaps there is a huge pressure on here shoulder in playing at here own country. Nevertheless, we do hope that this setback might make her hungry and be motivated. For sure, she will remain at the end of this season at the top. But she has to maintain her form.

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Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

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Quote from: vennali on July 28, 2022, 05:49:00 PM

Quote from: aoluain on July 28, 2022, 10:12:43 AM

You are right vennali, I suffered last year with Sinner I think but this year one player has defied
that rule! Alcaraz won a number of tournaments and finished quite high in others.

Rio Open - Won the final
Mexican Open - Semi final loss
Miami Open - Final win
Barcelona - Final win
Madrid Open - Final win

So betting on him would surely have made anyone profits but yes I agree with venalli, usually
it doesnt work out and maybe Musetti doesnt get a "double bounce"

He might be the only exception the what I've said earlier. This kid is built different from the others. Highly motivated(well, at least for now and hope it lasts) and highly skillful + the physicality to go along with it. He is quintessentially the next Nadal in the making and he's from Nadal's academy as well.

In other news, Thiem loses to Yannick Hanfmann in Austria. The crowd were buzzing everytime Thiem won a point irrespective of whether it was an error from Hanfmann or a winner from Theim but, in the end it wasnt enough. Hanfmann was playing some high quality tennis while Thiem made a ton of unforced errors. There might still be a few months of injury free match practice before we see Thiem back in form.

I made the big mistake to place a bet on Thiem

he has the chance to close the match and wasted everything... crowd screaming is something normal in such condition, I am not surprised at all...
However I think he has to recover a lot after his injury, he is far away from TOP condition Roll Eyes

Yes some recovery yet to be done by Thiem. Reaching a quarter final is no easy feat either
but we are expecting a bit more from him, no doubt he will be frustrated a bit himself and his
team will be telling him that he is making progress.

I am focussing on the tournament in Umag, Sinner is into a second set tie break in his quarter
final and Alcaraz is playing soon too, there is a chance it could be a Sinner v Alcaraz final!
I have both on handicap to win their matches today.

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Quote from: babygun on July 29, 2022, 11:24:18 AM

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The competition is quite fierce nowadays: Medvedev, Kyrgios, Tsitsipas, Sinner, Thiem, Zverev,...

I do not see these players as fierce competition, especially not one able to fight with Alcaraz
would even argue that generation with Berdych, Del Potro, Soderling, Cilic, Wawrinka was much better and won few GS with Federer, Djokovic, Nadal in their prime

nowadays, that fierce competition cannot win GS, even with Djokovic and Nadal in their 35's, Alcaraz is the one to dominate it

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Quote from: Trofo on July 28, 2022, 03:49:34 PM

Alcaraz is already very mature and I am really impressed with his mental resilience. That is something we almost never see in young players and I am quite sure we have future number 1 one in him. Don't even see who can compete with him after Nadal and Djoković finish their careers.

Musseti on the other hand is just a talented youngster. We have heaps of those and very small number of them actually make a great career. He is definitely one of those that I am surprised he even won one tournament and wouldn't dream on betting on him to continue the streak.

For his age, Alcaraz is mature and he will become world number 1 and will win some grandslams. But do you think, he will be able to dominate the field in a similar way as Djokovic, Nadal and Federed did ?
The competition is quite fierce nowadays: Medvedev, Kyrgios, Tsitsipas, Sinner, Thiem, Zverev,...

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The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

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Quote from: vennali on July 28, 2022, 05:49:00 PM

Quote from: aoluain on July 28, 2022, 10:12:43 AM

You are right vennali, I suffered last year with Sinner I think but this year one player has defied
that rule! Alcaraz won a number of tournaments and finished quite high in others.

Rio Open - Won the final
Mexican Open - Semi final loss
Miami Open - Final win
Barcelona - Final win
Madrid Open - Final win

So betting on him would surely have made anyone profits but yes I agree with venalli, usually
it doesnt work out and maybe Musetti doesnt get a "double bounce"

He might be the only exception the what I've said earlier. This kid is built different from the others. Highly motivated(well, at least for now and hope it lasts) and highly skillful + the physicality to go along with it. He is quintessentially the next Nadal in the making and he's from Nadal's academy as well.

In other news, Thiem loses to Yannick Hanfmann in Austria. The crowd were buzzing everytime Thiem won a point irrespective of whether it was an error from Hanfmann or a winner from Theim but, in the end it wasnt enough. Hanfmann was playing some high quality tennis while Thiem made a ton of unforced errors. There might still be a few months of injury free match practice before we see Thiem back in form.

I made the big mistake to place a bet on Thiem

he has the chance to close the match and wasted everything... crowd screaming is something normal in such condition, I am not surprised at all...
However I think he has to recover a lot after his injury, he is far away from TOP condition Roll Eyes

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Quote from: aoluain on July 28, 2022, 10:12:43 AM

You are right vennali, I suffered last year with Sinner I think but this year one player has defied
that rule! Alcaraz won a number of tournaments and finished quite high in others.

Rio Open - Won the final
Mexican Open - Semi final loss
Miami Open - Final win
Barcelona - Final win
Madrid Open - Final win

So betting on him would surely have made anyone profits but yes I agree with venalli, usually
it doesnt work out and maybe Musetti doesnt get a "double bounce"

He might be the only exception the what I've said earlier. This kid is built different from the others. Highly motivated(well, at least for now and hope it lasts) and highly skillful + the physicality to go along with it. He is quintessentially the next Nadal in the making and he's from Nadal's academy as well.

In other news, Thiem loses to Yannick Hanfmann in Austria. The crowd were buzzing everytime Thiem won a point irrespective of whether it was an error from Hanfmann or a winner from Theim but, in the end it wasnt enough. Hanfmann was playing some high quality tennis while Thiem made a ton of unforced errors. There might still be a few months of injury free match practice before we see Thiem back in form.

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