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Quote from: Kemarit on July 27, 2022, 09:11:26 PM

Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 06:48:14 PM

Holger Rune has had a crazy drop off in terms of quality and levels after some commendable performances in the slams. He beat Tsitsipas in Wimbledon and then lost to Ruud and since then, he hasnt won a single match. Lost 7 matches in a row. He's lost to Carreno Busta, Peniston, Giron, Husler, Griekspoor and very recently to Zapata Miralles. High hopes from this kid and at the moment seems to be on a down ward spiral. Hope he picks things back up soon.

I was also looking at Rune after that upset win against Tsitsipas. But after that never heard from him. So he lost 7 matches in a row? There are some names in their, however, Peniston or Giron or Husler, he should have won that. Anyhow, let's see how he goes and hopefully he can get over that slump. Ivashka continuing his winning form in Atlanta, winning against Johnson of USA, and should be facing the top seed Opelka.

A few seeds dropped out of Atlanta Open because apparently its unbearable weather there. The heat + humidity makes it even worse for most of the players. Big names include Nick Kyrgios, Riley Opelka citing injury concerns.
Also, an injured Zverev will be world no.1 by 15th of August unless Dani Medvedev reaches the final at Los Cabos (or) reaches quarterfinals at Canadian Open (or) semifinals at Los Cabos + at least 3rd Round at Canadian Open. This is all assuming Zverev himself doesn't play in Canada.

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Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 06:48:14 PM

Holger Rune has had a crazy drop off in terms of quality and levels after some commendable performances in the slams. He beat Tsitsipas in Wimbledon and then lost to Ruud and since then, he hasnt won a single match. Lost 7 matches in a row. He's lost to Carreno Busta, Peniston, Giron, Husler, Griekspoor and very recently to Zapata Miralles. High hopes from this kid and at the moment seems to be on a down ward spiral. Hope he picks things back up soon.

I was also looking at Rune after that upset win against Tsitsipas. But after that never heard from him. So he lost 7 matches in a row? There are some names in their, however, Peniston or Giron or Husler, he should have won that. Anyhow, let's see how he goes and hopefully he can get over that slump. Ivashka continuing his winning form in Atlanta, winning against Johnson of USA, and should be facing the top seed Opelka.

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Holger Rune has had a crazy drop off in terms of quality and levels after some commendable performances in the slams. He beat Tsitsipas in Wimbledon and then lost to Ruud and since then, he hasnt won a single match. Lost 7 matches in a row. He's lost to Carreno Busta, Peniston, Giron, Husler, Griekspoor and very recently to Zapata Miralles. High hopes from this kid and at the moment seems to be on a down ward spiral. Hope he picks things back up soon.

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Quote from: babygun on July 27, 2022, 02:09:22 PM

Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 12:32:56 PM

Good to see Thiem back in decent form after the injury. He said "I'm almost back at the level I had before my injury during training. There are still a few things left in competition. still week to week I've improved, and I'm feeling good. I've mentally progressed a lot.

This was before his match against Sebastian Ofner, who he beat an hour ago. Thiem now reaches his 3rd consecutive Quarter finals and will be close to ranked 170. He will face Yannick Hanfmann next.

Lets hope he can reach his old level again that he had in 2020 where he reached the final of the Australian Open and won the US Open. If that would be the case, we can get some interesting grandslams as you still have Djokovic and Nadal and on the other hand the "young" generation with Medvedev, Alcaraz, Thiem,...

He has reach the QF or SF or his last tournament if I'm not mistaken, so definitely he may have gotten his form already.

As for the Paire bet, yeah, if I have seen @Trofo's advise, I could have stir away from him. So as a result my parlay was destroyed by Paire not covering that handicap, but that is ok.

So Nick has pulled out, that's what I read due to injuries. But fans are giving him credit now, unlike before, wherein he is the most hated player.

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Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 12:32:56 PM

Good to see Thiem back in decent form after the injury. He said "I'm almost back at the level I had before my injury during training. There are still a few things left in competition. still week to week I've improved, and I'm feeling good. I've mentally progressed a lot.

This was before his match against Sebastian Ofner, who he beat an hour ago. Thiem now reaches his 3rd consecutive Quarter finals and will be close to ranked 170. He will face Yannick Hanfmann next.

Lets hope he can reach his old level again that he had in 2020 where he reached the final of the Australian Open and won the US Open. If that would be the case, we can get some interesting grandslams as you still have Djokovic and Nadal and on the other hand the "young" generation with Medvedev, Alcaraz, Thiem,...

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Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 12:32:56 PM

Good to see Thiem back in decent form after the injury. He said "I'm almost back at the level I had before my injury during training. There are still a few things left in competition. still week to week I've improved, and I'm feeling good. I've mentally progressed a lot.

This was before his match against Sebastian Ofner, who he beat an hour ago. Thiem now reaches his 3rd consecutive Quarter finals and will be close to ranked 170. He will face Yannick Hanfmann next.

agree, it is good to see Thiem back close to top form, he can actually win one of these 250 tournaments
and with Berettinni out now, this tournament looks good to win it, for him, Agut is still there, but others should be easier to beat

from next week focus is back to USA tour, and Djokovic possible play

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Good to see Thiem back in decent form after the injury. He said "I'm almost back at the level I had before my injury during training. There are still a few things left in competition. still week to week I've improved, and I'm feeling good. I've mentally progressed a lot.

This was before his match against Sebastian Ofner, who he beat an hour ago. Thiem now reaches his 3rd consecutive Quarter finals and will be close to ranked 170. He will face Yannick Hanfmann next.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 26, 2022, 09:24:56 PM

Quote from: Trofo on July 26, 2022, 01:20:27 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on July 25, 2022, 10:26:41 PM

Brooksby vs Paire, I'm liking Paire at +5.5 although odds is 1.64. Might do another multi betting.

Paire is really risky player when you are betting on him to cover handicap. He is very capable but mentally unstable. I have seen and lost money on too many his matches to ever include him on my tickets agsin. He can simply break apart in any period of the match and not win a single game afterwards.

Right, and Paire lost with that huge margin, 6-3,6-1.

Nick match against Gojowczyk was cancelled when I did check the scores and it seems most seeded players went through to next round.

In the round of 16, top seed Opelka will go up against Ivashka. Then Americans Isner, second seed vs. Shelton.

Paire is not a reliable player as has been mentioned, I wouldnt bet on him at all.

I have changed temporarily my outlook on Kyrgios, I had a bet on him to win against
Gojowczyk. Lets see how he performs in Atlanta after his result at Wimbledon.

I also had Musetti to win yesterday which he did at Umag and plays Cecchinato next.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 26, 2022, 01:20:27 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on July 25, 2022, 10:26:41 PM

Brooksby vs Paire, I'm liking Paire at +5.5 although odds is 1.64. Might do another multi betting.

Paire is really risky player when you are betting on him to cover handicap. He is very capable but mentally unstable. I have seen and lost money on too many his matches to ever include him on my tickets agsin. He can simply break apart in any period of the match and not win a single game afterwards.

Right, and Paire lost with that huge margin, 6-3,6-1.

Nick match against Gojowczyk was cancelled when I did check the scores and it seems most seeded players went through to next round.

In the round of 16, top seed Opelka will go up against Ivashka. Then Americans Isner, second seed vs. Shelton.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 25, 2022, 10:26:41 PM

Brooksby vs Paire, I'm liking Paire at +5.5 although odds is 1.64. Might do another multi betting.

Paire is really risky player when you are betting on him to cover handicap. He is very capable but mentally unstable. I have seen and lost money on too many his matches to ever include him on my tickets agsin. He can simply break apart in any period of the match and not win a single game afterwards.

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Quote from: vennali on July 25, 2022, 07:39:20 PM

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Quote from: vennali on July 25, 2022, 02:23:09 PM

1.91x on Millman vs Popyrin might be decent odds. Millman has never lost to Popyrin but the matches have been close. Another 3 setter on the cards? Should be a decent gamble on Millman but its going to be close.

I also think that Millman can win this match but I somehow think that it's going to end in two sets, so a riskier bet would on Millman to win 2-0 which is pretty high @3.11, I might go without or probably just go with a safer option which is on him to win.

3 sets it was! and a win for Millman as I predicted. That makes it 5-0 for Millman over Popyrin. They are both Aussies, so, they'll get to face each other more often and I'll probably go the same route, unless something drastic happens in their careers.

Good, just take a break from my tennis betting, lots of game on the Atlanta Open. And good call on the Millman win, so he has a mastery of Popyrin afterall.

Paul Tommy -1.5 at 1.80 might be a good bet for me. Looking for Kyrgios but so far it's only ML that has been offered, no handicap or other options.

Brooksby vs Paire, I'm liking Paire at +5.5 although odds is 1.64. Might do another multi betting.

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Quote from: vennali on July 25, 2022, 02:23:09 PM

1.91x on Millman vs Popyrin might be decent odds. Millman has never lost to Popyrin but the matches have been close. Another 3 setter on the cards? Should be a decent gamble on Millman but its going to be close.

I also think that Millman can win this match but I somehow think that it's going to end in two sets, so a riskier bet would on Millman to win 2-0 which is pretty high @3.11, I might go without or probably just go with a safer option which is on him to win.

3 sets it was! and a win for Millman as I predicted. That makes it 5-0 for Millman over Popyrin. They are both Aussies, so, they'll get to face each other more often and I'll probably go the same route, unless something drastic happens in their careers.

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Quote from: vennali on July 25, 2022, 02:23:09 PM

1.91x on Millman vs Popyrin might be decent odds. Millman has never lost to Popyrin but the matches have been close. Another 3 setter on the cards? Should be a decent gamble on Millman but its going to be close.

I also think that Millman can win this match but I somehow think that it's going to end in two sets, so a riskier bet would on Millman to win 2-0 which is pretty high @3.11, I might go without or probably just go with a safer option which is on him to win.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 24, 2022, 06:47:35 AM

Since I watched Alcaraz play in Umag last year I have been saying we have a future number one here. He is complete player without week point and already strong mentally with just 19 years under his belt. Furthermore he seems humble enough to not let fame get into his head. For instance Umag was his first title and tournament that sort of launched his career and he is still coming back this year to play even though it is arguably below his current level. I was keeping one eye on that news since it is usual that top players cancel these small ATP 250 tournaments.

I actually hope to see him live there in a week or so. I bought tickets for the semifinals, he should be a big favorite to win the tournament in Umag once again.

I hope he plays Rune or Fognini in the semis. I will watch both SF matches so I'll hopefully see Sinner live as well.

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1.91x on Millman vs Popyrin might be decent odds. Millman has never lost to Popyrin but the matches have been close. Another 3 setter on the cards? Should be a decent gamble on Millman but its going to be close.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 24, 2022, 02:37:12 PM

-snip
I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.

isn't there fires at the moment there?
as I heard over the news (maybe it was misheard on the radio), but there are large fires right now in Slovenia and close to border and within Umag region?

it is a good chance to see tennis there, I didn't want to go to Belgrade open to watch Djokovic

Alcaraz is entering top5, closing to top

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Quote from: Trofo on July 25, 2022, 02:00:30 AM

I wouldn't call it cheating, as someone pointed out it is not his job to call it, it should have been done by ref. It is definitely bad sportsmanship and no thought at all about fair play. You do stuff like that couple of times and I am sure players look at you differently and you lose a lot od dressing room respect.

Not the smartest thing to do of Musetti, sportsmanship is always very important and when you do stuff like this, you will get looked down from a lot of players. As you mention, do this a couple of times or do it against players of Nadal/Djokovic/Federer, who have a lot of influence, the respect will be gone and very hard to win it back

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Quote from: Trofo on July 25, 2022, 02:00:30 AM

Quote from: aoluain on July 25, 2022, 12:41:04 AM

They are also quick to challenge calls too if they are close but if they are 100%
convinced either way the accept it and move on. This is not cool by Musetti and
can be looked on as cheating IMO.

I wouldn't call it cheating, as someone pointed out it is not his job to call it, it should have been done by ref. It is definitely bad sportsmanship and no thought at all about fair play. You do stuff like that couple of times and I am sure players look at you differently and you lose a lot od dressing room respect.

Yea I agree, the players know, Alcaraz knew straight away but had to continue playing
the point until the end and then discussed it with the chair umpire.

Thats what I was wondering about, surely it ould be talked about in the dressing rooms
or behind the scenes.

Anyway as you say there could definitely be a revene match coming up in UMAG.

Musetti plays Bedene tomorrow and Alcaraz plays Wednesday, interesting to see how it all
pans out and if they will acvtually meet one another again at some stage.

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I did not see that defeat of Alcaraz coming. He seemed to be able to easily win today, especially when you see how he easily won the previous rounds. And he was also placed 1st this tournament.

I think very few people saw this coming. For most people it was clear that Alcaraz would win the final. And now Musetti has won it. I did not see the match, I have only read the reports. And according to the reports it was an exciting match. But Musetti kept his nerve and in the end we can only congratulate him.

Yes, most of the peoples were in strong favor of Alcaraz because currently he is one of the best player and have very good record against Musette but still this is not strange because we all know any result can happen in any match with now most of the players are doing good and having quality to beat top ranked players at any court, so this happens in this.

After losing first set he fight backs very strongly but again in third set Musette was on top and break service with title for himself.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 24, 2022, 02:37:12 PM

There was a bit of controversy in this match as well. Musetti hit the ball after it bounced two times and ref did not see it. He was prick enough to not say anything and just continue like nothing happened. Not cool by tennis fair play but it worked out for him in the end.

We could see a rematch in couple of days since both players are playing Umag next. Hopefully I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.

It is possible that he didnt notice the 2nd bounce. It is unlikely that he wouldn't know..but its possible. The racquet could be obstructing his own view to the ball and he's running full speed towards it. In any case, it wasnt a crucial point that could decide the match and eventually Musetti did end up winning.

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