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1.91x on Millman vs Popyrin might be decent odds. Millman has never lost to Popyrin but the matches have been close. Another 3 setter on the cards? Should be a decent gamble on Millman but its going to be close.
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I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
isn't there fires at the moment there?
as I heard over the news (maybe it was misheard on the radio), but there are large fires right now in Slovenia and close to border and within Umag region?
it is a good chance to see tennis there, I didn't want to go to Belgrade open to watch Djokovic
Alcaraz is entering top5, closing to top
I wouldn't call it cheating, as someone pointed out it is not his job to call it, it should have been done by ref. It is definitely bad sportsmanship and no thought at all about fair play. You do stuff like that couple of times and I am sure players look at you differently and you lose a lot od dressing room respect.
Not the smartest thing to do of Musetti, sportsmanship is always very important and when you do stuff like this, you will get looked down from a lot of players. As you mention, do this a couple of times or do it against players of Nadal/Djokovic/Federer, who have a lot of influence, the respect will be gone and very hard to win it back
They are also quick to challenge calls too if they are close but if they are 100%
convinced either way the accept it and move on. This is not cool by Musetti and
can be looked on as cheating IMO.
I wouldn't call it cheating, as someone pointed out it is not his job to call it, it should have been done by ref. It is definitely bad sportsmanship and no thought at all about fair play. You do stuff like that couple of times and I am sure players look at you differently and you lose a lot od dressing room respect.convinced either way the accept it and move on. This is not cool by Musetti and
can be looked on as cheating IMO.
Yea I agree, the players know, Alcaraz knew straight away but had to continue playing
the point until the end and then discussed it with the chair umpire.
Thats what I was wondering about, surely it ould be talked about in the dressing rooms
or behind the scenes.
Anyway as you say there could definitely be a revene match coming up in UMAG.
Musetti plays Bedene tomorrow and Alcaraz plays Wednesday, interesting to see how it all
pans out and if they will acvtually meet one another again at some stage.
I did not see that defeat of Alcaraz coming. He seemed to be able to easily win today, especially when you see how he easily won the previous rounds. And he was also placed 1st this tournament.
I think very few people saw this coming. For most people it was clear that Alcaraz would win the final. And now Musetti has won it. I did not see the match, I have only read the reports. And according to the reports it was an exciting match. But Musetti kept his nerve and in the end we can only congratulate him.After losing first set he fight backs very strongly but again in third set Musette was on top and break service with title for himself.
There was a bit of controversy in this match as well. Musetti hit the ball after it bounced two times and ref did not see it. He was prick enough to not say anything and just continue like nothing happened. Not cool by tennis fair play but it worked out for him in the end.
We could see a rematch in couple of days since both players are playing Umag next. Hopefully I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
It is possible that he didnt notice the 2nd bounce. It is unlikely that he wouldn't know..but its possible. The racquet could be obstructing his own view to the ball and he's running full speed towards it. In any case, it wasnt a crucial point that could decide the match and eventually Musetti did end up winning. We could see a rematch in couple of days since both players are playing Umag next. Hopefully I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
They are also quick to challenge calls too if they are close but if they are 100%
convinced either way the accept it and move on. This is not cool by Musetti and
can be looked on as cheating IMO.
I wouldn't call it cheating, as someone pointed out it is not his job to call it, it should have been done by ref. It is definitely bad sportsmanship and no thought at all about fair play. You do stuff like that couple of times and I am sure players look at you differently and you lose a lot od dressing room respect. convinced either way the accept it and move on. This is not cool by Musetti and
can be looked on as cheating IMO.
In Hamburg Musetti was able to beat Alcaraz in 3 sets. I did a cheeky bet on Alcaraz half
way through the second set and got odds of 2.85. Alcaraz went on the bring the second set
to a tie break and won it but Musetti was able to claim the third. He was able to break
Alcaraz in every set early on. This is his first ATP title.
There was a bit of controversy in this match as well. Musetti hit the ball after it bounced two times and ref did not see it. He was prick enough to not say anything and just continue like nothing happened. Not cool by tennis fair play but it worked out for him in the end.way through the second set and got odds of 2.85. Alcaraz went on the bring the second set
to a tie break and won it but Musetti was able to claim the third. He was able to break
Alcaraz in every set early on. This is his first ATP title.
We could see a rematch in couple of days since both players are playing Umag next. Hopefully I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
We have seen it many times where a player will call their opponents ball in after it was
called out by an umpire, all the top players have done it and have that mentality.
They are also quick to challenge calls too if they are close but if they are 100%
convinced either way the accept it and move on. This is not cool by Musetti and
can be looked on as cheating IMO.
We could see a rematch in couple of days since both players are playing Umag next. Hopefully I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
Very nice Trofo, I hope you get there too!
I wonder did Alcaraz discuss the double bounce with Musetti after the preceedings?
I did not see that defeat of Alcaraz coming. He seemed to be able to easily win today, especially when you see how he easily won the previous rounds. And he was also placed 1st this tournament. I have no idea how good today's opponent was. We have often seen players in the past who are mayflies. We haven't seen much of him at Roland Garros, for example. It's all preparation for the US open, where Djokovic will in any case not appear at the start 
Yeah, I wasn't able to watch, but the last time I check Alcaraz was like 1.12 as betting favorite. Too bad for those who bet huge money on him and thinking this is an easy game.
I have to check what @Trofo is describing though, might be controversial to me. I'm not saying that Musetti cheats or what, but could be a question of sportsmanship? I don't know, most likely borderline.
In Hamburg Musetti was able to beat Alcaraz in 3 sets. I did a cheeky bet on Alcaraz half
way through the second set and got odds of 2.85. Alcaraz went on the bring the second set
to a tie break and won it but Musetti was able to claim the third. He was able to break
Alcaraz in every set early on. This is his first ATP title.
There was a bit of controversy in this match as well. Musetti hit the ball after it bounced two times and ref did not see it. He was prick enough to not say anything and just continue like nothing happened. Not cool by tennis fair play but it worked out for him in the end.way through the second set and got odds of 2.85. Alcaraz went on the bring the second set
to a tie break and won it but Musetti was able to claim the third. He was able to break
Alcaraz in every set early on. This is his first ATP title.
We could see a rematch in couple of days since both players are playing Umag next. Hopefully I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
I did not see that defeat of Alcaraz coming. He seemed to be able to easily win today, especially when you see how he easily won the previous rounds. And he was also placed 1st this tournament.
I think very few people saw this coming. For most people it was clear that Alcaraz would win the final. And now Musetti has won it. I did not see the match, I have only read the reports. And according to the reports it was an exciting match. But Musetti kept his nerve and in the end we can only congratulate him.
Congrats to the Musetti - well played and we got to see some amazing strokes.
I did not see that defeat of Alcaraz coming. He seemed to be able to easily win today, especially when you see how he easily won the previous rounds. And he was also placed 1st this tournament.
I think very few people saw this coming. For most people it was clear that Alcaraz would win the final. And now Musetti has won it. I did not see the match, I have only read the reports. And according to the reports it was an exciting match. But Musetti kept his nerve and in the end we can only congratulate him.
I did not see that defeat of Alcaraz coming. He seemed to be able to easily win today, especially when you see how he easily won the previous rounds. And he was also placed 1st this tournament. I have no idea how good today's opponent was. We have often seen players in the past who are mayflies. We haven't seen much of him at Roland Garros, for example. It's all preparation for the US open, where Djokovic will in any case not appear at the start
In Hamburg Musetti was able to beat Alcaraz in 3 sets. I did a cheeky bet on Alcaraz half
way through the second set and got odds of 2.85. Alcaraz went on the bring the second set
to a tie break and won it but Musetti was able to claim the third. He was able to break
Alcaraz in every set early on. This is his first ATP title.
There was a bit of controversy in this match as well. Musetti hit the ball after it bounced two times and ref did not see it. He was prick enough to not say anything and just continue like nothing happened. Not cool by tennis fair play but it worked out for him in the end.way through the second set and got odds of 2.85. Alcaraz went on the bring the second set
to a tie break and won it but Musetti was able to claim the third. He was able to break
Alcaraz in every set early on. This is his first ATP title.
We could see a rematch in couple of days since both players are playing Umag next. Hopefully I'll manage to go and watch a game or two live.
The final game in Gaastad tournament between casper Ruud and berrettini was as promised it was a total war and ended with 2 1 to Ruud, berrettini managed to win the first set but Ruud was able to make a comeback if it was on grass i think berrettini would've been my favourite.
Yea I watched the last half of the match, Ruud was pretty much on top for that time.
The commentators said that Berrettini's forehand abandonned him in te final set so the
score suggests that 6 - 2.
Yea if it was grass he would have overcome Ruud who didnt have a grass season really
or possibly if Berrettini was further along with his recovery it could have been closer.
Ruud though is such a strong performer, and has been fairly consistent.
and
In Hamburg Musetti was able to beat Alcaraz in 3 sets. I did a cheeky bet on Alcaraz half
way through the second set and got odds of 2.85. Alcaraz went on the bring the second set
to a tie break and won it but Musetti was able to claim the third. He was able to break
Alcaraz in every set early on. This is his first ATP title.
The final game in Gaastad tournament between casper Ruud and berrettini was as promised it was a total war and ended with 2 1 to Ruud, berrettini managed to win the first set but Ruud was able to make a comeback if it was on grass i think berrettini would've been my favourite.
Some interesting tennis news:
''Spanish teenager Carlos Alcaraz will become the youngest player in the top five of the ATP rankings since Rafael Nadal in 2005 after reaching the Hamburg Open final.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62280435
Nadal is already close to tennis retirement, but the more I watch Alcaraz, the more I feel I'm watching Nadal's successor. Of course, it is very difficult to say whether Alcaraz will achieve the kind of results that Nadal has, and play for so long at the top level, but he definitely has the talent and potential to do great things in tennis.
Since I watched Alcaraz play in Umag last year I have been saying we have a future number one here. He is complete player without week point and already strong mentally with just 19 years under his belt. Furthermore he seems humble enough to not let fame get into his head. For instance Umag was his first title and tournament that sort of launched his career and he is still coming back this year to play even though it is arguably below his current level. I was keeping one eye on that news since it is usual that top players cancel these small ATP 250 tournaments. ''Spanish teenager Carlos Alcaraz will become the youngest player in the top five of the ATP rankings since Rafael Nadal in 2005 after reaching the Hamburg Open final.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62280435
Nadal is already close to tennis retirement, but the more I watch Alcaraz, the more I feel I'm watching Nadal's successor. Of course, it is very difficult to say whether Alcaraz will achieve the kind of results that Nadal has, and play for so long at the top level, but he definitely has the talent and potential to do great things in tennis.
Some interesting tennis news:
''Spanish teenager Carlos Alcaraz will become the youngest player in the top five of the ATP rankings since Rafael Nadal in 2005 after reaching the Hamburg Open final.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62280435
Nadal is already close to tennis retirement, but the more I watch Alcaraz, the more I feel I'm watching Nadal's successor. Of course, it is very difficult to say whether Alcaraz will achieve the kind of results that Nadal has, and play for so long at the top level, but he definitely has the talent and potential to do great things in tennis.
''Novak Djokovic is unlikely to play at the US Open after organisers said they would "respect" American government rules over travel for unvaccinated players.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62248745
So, it seems that Djokovic, if he doesn't change his mind about the vaccination, will only be able to play 2 Grand Slams a year in the next few years and thus probably miss the opportunity to become the greatest tennis player of all time, based on the number of Grand Slam titles won.
''Former world number one Venus Williams will make her singles comeback after being awarded a wildcard for next month's WTA 1000 tournament in Toronto.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62244577
At the age of 42, Venus is still not giving up on tennis tournaments, just like her sister Serena
''Spanish teenager Carlos Alcaraz will become the youngest player in the top five of the ATP rankings since Rafael Nadal in 2005 after reaching the Hamburg Open final.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62280435
Nadal is already close to tennis retirement, but the more I watch Alcaraz, the more I feel I'm watching Nadal's successor. Of course, it is very difficult to say whether Alcaraz will achieve the kind of results that Nadal has, and play for so long at the top level, but he definitely has the talent and potential to do great things in tennis.
''Novak Djokovic is unlikely to play at the US Open after organisers said they would "respect" American government rules over travel for unvaccinated players.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62248745
So, it seems that Djokovic, if he doesn't change his mind about the vaccination, will only be able to play 2 Grand Slams a year in the next few years and thus probably miss the opportunity to become the greatest tennis player of all time, based on the number of Grand Slam titles won.
''Former world number one Venus Williams will make her singles comeback after being awarded a wildcard for next month's WTA 1000 tournament in Toronto.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62244577
At the age of 42, Venus is still not giving up on tennis tournaments, just like her sister Serena
The semi-finals of the tournament in Hamburg are taking place today. I think it is pretty clear that Alcaraz will reach the final. In the other semi-final match between Musetti and Cerúndolo I do not have a favourite. The odds are also very similar and therefore only small differences will surely decide victory and defeat.
I think it was an easy bet, I have Musetti -1.5 against Cerundolo and Alcaraz for the win in a parlay. Musetti though has moments in the second set that I thought he will lost, he dominated the first set by in the second set, Cerundolo was down like 3-1 but then storm back and force the game in a tie break wherein Musetti won. As for Alcaraz, it was the other way other, force in a tie break in the 1st set, but in the second, the breeze past Molcan 6-1.
The handicap odds for Alcaraz is -4.5, ML is not that attractive at 1.16 against Musetti. I think Alcaraz can cover this spread in 2 sets.
''Novak Djokovic will be joining Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer and Andy Murray to play for Team Europe in the Laver Cup.''
''The event, which pits six European players against six from Team World over three days, will take place in London between 23 and 25 September.''
''"It's the only [event] where you play in a team with guys you're normally competing against," said Djokovic.
"To be joining Rafa, Roger and Andy - three of my biggest all-time rivals - it's going to be a truly unique moment in the history of our sport."
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62262153
As Djokovic said, it will be really very interesting to watch the joint team performance of the greatest tennis players in history.
Recently, especially after some statements before the GS in Australia, it seemed that Nadal and Djokovic are no longer on good terms, but they will still play together in the European team.
This will really be a special opportunity to watch them perform together, for the same team, and enjoy great tennis again even though the competition itself is not so important.
Does this mean that Nadal and Djokovic have reconciled?
''The event, which pits six European players against six from Team World over three days, will take place in London between 23 and 25 September.''
''"It's the only [event] where you play in a team with guys you're normally competing against," said Djokovic.
"To be joining Rafa, Roger and Andy - three of my biggest all-time rivals - it's going to be a truly unique moment in the history of our sport."
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/62262153
As Djokovic said, it will be really very interesting to watch the joint team performance of the greatest tennis players in history.
Recently, especially after some statements before the GS in Australia, it seemed that Nadal and Djokovic are no longer on good terms, but they will still play together in the European team.
This will really be a special opportunity to watch them perform together, for the same team, and enjoy great tennis again even though the competition itself is not so important.
Does this mean that Nadal and Djokovic have reconciled?
Yes, possibly after all they are "elder" Tennis players at this stage and will/should have mellowed
with age ?
This is a unique event in Tennis and more so this year with the 4 biggest names in mens
Tennis over the last couple of decades competing as a team, sharing tactics and
practicing together.
Team World dont have a chance
★ Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer and Andy Murray have won 66 of the last 76 men's grand slam singles titles
★ Team Europe has won all four Laver Cup titles since the first was held in 2017
★ Team Europe has won all four Laver Cup titles since the first was held in 2017
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