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Quote from: Trofo on July 31, 2022, 12:30:21 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on July 30, 2022, 08:27:37 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 30, 2022, 06:23:10 PM

We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

And Alcaraz is the favorite to win the finals against Sinner, the current odds are 1.56 Alcaraz, Sinner 2.27. Not that bad to bet on Sinner to win or even take a set in this match.

And maybe this game will go to three sets as well. So this is going to be close for me, if I remember, Alcaraz said that for him grass is tougher than any other surface. But he seems to be doing great as well. This two is the young prospect we got so this is going to be very exciting match.

Not sure what to bet on in this final, maybe it is best to just skipp betting and watch the match. Alcaraz should be much better on clay but he was not on his usual level during this tournament. He lost sets against players that I fell should not pass 2 games per set. Sinner was much more convincing so far and looking just at current mucro form shold be able to take this.

Yea Alcaraz for me in this tournament has been below par even when winning. He finds it
difficult to close out matches, a player of his talent and experience should be winning
matches in two sets where its taking 3 sets to get the win.

He doesnt get great odds so we kind of have to play handicap on him to get some
value. I played -3.5 on him yesterday and he only won with 3 games to spare so I lost my bet.

Its hard to know which way to bet today, I didnt check but I would say the odds are quite even.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 30, 2022, 08:27:37 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 30, 2022, 06:23:10 PM

We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

And Alcaraz is the favorite to win the finals against Sinner, the current odds are 1.56 Alcaraz, Sinner 2.27. Not that bad to bet on Sinner to win or even take a set in this match.

And maybe this game will go to three sets as well. So this is going to be close for me, if I remember, Alcaraz said that for him grass is tougher than any other surface. But he seems to be doing great as well. This two is the young prospect we got so this is going to be very exciting match.

Not sure what to bet on in this final, maybe it is best to just skipp betting and watch the match. Alcaraz should be much better on clay but he was not on his usual level during this tournament. He lost sets against players that I fell should not pass 2 games per set. Sinner was much more convincing so far and looking just at current mucro form shold be able to take this.

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Quote from: Ratash on July 30, 2022, 06:23:10 PM

We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

And Alcaraz is the favorite to win the finals against Sinner, the current odds are 1.56 Alcaraz, Sinner 2.27. Not that bad to bet on Sinner to win or even take a set in this match.

And maybe this game will go to three sets as well. So this is going to be close for me, if I remember, Alcaraz said that for him grass is tougher than any other surface. But he seems to be doing great as well. This two is the young prospect we got so this is going to be very exciting match.

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We have an exciting final tomorrow on Umag tournament in croatia alcaraz will face sinner on a clay court the last game between them ended with a win for sinner but that was in grass obviously alcaraz is the favourite but its not the best version of him it wouldn't be surprising if sinner can win a set or even the game i think i would go with sinner winning atleast a set.

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Quote from: lixer on July 29, 2022, 10:09:41 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on July 29, 2022, 03:46:12 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

There is no doubt shocking defeat for Swiatek at home in front of his fans, but we have to praise C Garcia as well what a display of game from her 2 hours 17 minutes marathon time for win against World no 1 and Roland Garros champion after having record of 0 - 9 is amazing win with the score of 6 - 1, 1 - 6 and 6 - 4.

Even now after defeat another tournament we have to wait for next turn from World no 1 because still she can fight back strongly hopefully this will happen soon because now we are heading for another big event where things could be completely different, and these ladies need to do more effort to win track.

Maybe just a bad night for Iga, however, we can't take this away from Garcia, she is the 5th seed so obviously she is capable of beating any on the team seeds, it just so happen that Iga was her victim in her own country.

As for being World no 1, she has a big lead already so I doubt that someone can take it from her this year. As for Garcia, she will be facing Jasmine Paolini. Jasmine come back from 1-6 defeat in the first set against Viktorija Golubic of Switzerland.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 29, 2022, 03:46:12 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

There is no doubt shocking defeat for Swiatek at home in front of his fans, but we have to praise C Garcia as well what a display of game from her 2 hours 17 minutes marathon time for win against World no 1 and Roland Garros champion after having record of 0 - 9 is amazing win with the score of 6 - 1, 1 - 6 and 6 - 4.

Even now after defeat another tournament we have to wait for next turn from World no 1 because still she can fight back strongly hopefully this will happen soon because now we are heading for another big event where things could be completely different, and these ladies need to do more effort to win track.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 29, 2022, 03:46:12 PM

Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

Aww, after a good run and having a stronghold on the top spot in the womens, suddenly we've seen some nerves of Swiatek now.

Perhaps there is a huge pressure on here shoulder in playing at here own country. Nevertheless, we do hope that this setback might make her hungry and be motivated. For sure, she will remain at the end of this season at the top. But she has to maintain her form.

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Quote from: Ratash on July 29, 2022, 10:57:46 AM

The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

Shocking loss in the end for Swiatek, she was able to win second set 6-1 but lost the third set and lost the game at her own country. You would never expect that she losses at home against Garcia. That Wimbledon defeat knocked her badly down she needs to win a tournament and comeback

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Quote from: vennali on July 28, 2022, 05:49:00 PM

Quote from: aoluain on July 28, 2022, 10:12:43 AM

You are right vennali, I suffered last year with Sinner I think but this year one player has defied
that rule! Alcaraz won a number of tournaments and finished quite high in others.

Rio Open - Won the final
Mexican Open - Semi final loss
Miami Open - Final win
Barcelona - Final win
Madrid Open - Final win

So betting on him would surely have made anyone profits but yes I agree with venalli, usually
it doesnt work out and maybe Musetti doesnt get a "double bounce"

He might be the only exception the what I've said earlier. This kid is built different from the others. Highly motivated(well, at least for now and hope it lasts) and highly skillful + the physicality to go along with it. He is quintessentially the next Nadal in the making and he's from Nadal's academy as well.

In other news, Thiem loses to Yannick Hanfmann in Austria. The crowd were buzzing everytime Thiem won a point irrespective of whether it was an error from Hanfmann or a winner from Theim but, in the end it wasnt enough. Hanfmann was playing some high quality tennis while Thiem made a ton of unforced errors. There might still be a few months of injury free match practice before we see Thiem back in form.

I made the big mistake to place a bet on Thiem

he has the chance to close the match and wasted everything... crowd screaming is something normal in such condition, I am not surprised at all...
However I think he has to recover a lot after his injury, he is far away from TOP condition Roll Eyes

Yes some recovery yet to be done by Thiem. Reaching a quarter final is no easy feat either
but we are expecting a bit more from him, no doubt he will be frustrated a bit himself and his
team will be telling him that he is making progress.

I am focussing on the tournament in Umag, Sinner is into a second set tie break in his quarter
final and Alcaraz is playing soon too, there is a chance it could be a Sinner v Alcaraz final!
I have both on handicap to win their matches today.

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Quote from: babygun on July 29, 2022, 11:24:18 AM

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The competition is quite fierce nowadays: Medvedev, Kyrgios, Tsitsipas, Sinner, Thiem, Zverev,...

I do not see these players as fierce competition, especially not one able to fight with Alcaraz
would even argue that generation with Berdych, Del Potro, Soderling, Cilic, Wawrinka was much better and won few GS with Federer, Djokovic, Nadal in their prime

nowadays, that fierce competition cannot win GS, even with Djokovic and Nadal in their 35's, Alcaraz is the one to dominate it

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Quote from: Trofo on July 28, 2022, 03:49:34 PM

Alcaraz is already very mature and I am really impressed with his mental resilience. That is something we almost never see in young players and I am quite sure we have future number 1 one in him. Don't even see who can compete with him after Nadal and Djoković finish their careers.

Musseti on the other hand is just a talented youngster. We have heaps of those and very small number of them actually make a great career. He is definitely one of those that I am surprised he even won one tournament and wouldn't dream on betting on him to continue the streak.

For his age, Alcaraz is mature and he will become world number 1 and will win some grandslams. But do you think, he will be able to dominate the field in a similar way as Djokovic, Nadal and Federed did ?
The competition is quite fierce nowadays: Medvedev, Kyrgios, Tsitsipas, Sinner, Thiem, Zverev,...

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The first set just ended between swiatek and garcia and the result was shocking garcia managed to win 6 1 a really bad set from swiatek i didn't see her perform so poorly in a while, it seems french players have figured out how to stop her but i don't think its over swiatek still can make a comeback and now we have a decent odd for her winning.

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Quote from: vennali on July 28, 2022, 05:49:00 PM

Quote from: aoluain on July 28, 2022, 10:12:43 AM

You are right vennali, I suffered last year with Sinner I think but this year one player has defied
that rule! Alcaraz won a number of tournaments and finished quite high in others.

Rio Open - Won the final
Mexican Open - Semi final loss
Miami Open - Final win
Barcelona - Final win
Madrid Open - Final win

So betting on him would surely have made anyone profits but yes I agree with venalli, usually
it doesnt work out and maybe Musetti doesnt get a "double bounce"

He might be the only exception the what I've said earlier. This kid is built different from the others. Highly motivated(well, at least for now and hope it lasts) and highly skillful + the physicality to go along with it. He is quintessentially the next Nadal in the making and he's from Nadal's academy as well.

In other news, Thiem loses to Yannick Hanfmann in Austria. The crowd were buzzing everytime Thiem won a point irrespective of whether it was an error from Hanfmann or a winner from Theim but, in the end it wasnt enough. Hanfmann was playing some high quality tennis while Thiem made a ton of unforced errors. There might still be a few months of injury free match practice before we see Thiem back in form.

I made the big mistake to place a bet on Thiem

he has the chance to close the match and wasted everything... crowd screaming is something normal in such condition, I am not surprised at all...
However I think he has to recover a lot after his injury, he is far away from TOP condition Roll Eyes

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Quote from: aoluain on July 28, 2022, 10:12:43 AM

You are right vennali, I suffered last year with Sinner I think but this year one player has defied
that rule! Alcaraz won a number of tournaments and finished quite high in others.

Rio Open - Won the final
Mexican Open - Semi final loss
Miami Open - Final win
Barcelona - Final win
Madrid Open - Final win

So betting on him would surely have made anyone profits but yes I agree with venalli, usually
it doesnt work out and maybe Musetti doesnt get a "double bounce"

He might be the only exception the what I've said earlier. This kid is built different from the others. Highly motivated(well, at least for now and hope it lasts) and highly skillful + the physicality to go along with it. He is quintessentially the next Nadal in the making and he's from Nadal's academy as well.

In other news, Thiem loses to Yannick Hanfmann in Austria. The crowd were buzzing everytime Thiem won a point irrespective of whether it was an error from Hanfmann or a winner from Theim but, in the end it wasnt enough. Hanfmann was playing some high quality tennis while Thiem made a ton of unforced errors. There might still be a few months of injury free match practice before we see Thiem back in form.

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Alcaraz is already very mature and I am really impressed with his mental resilience. That is something we almost never see in young players and I am quite sure we have future number 1 one in him. Don't even see who can compete with him after Nadal and Djoković finish their careers.

Musseti on the other hand is just a talented youngster. We have heaps of those and very small number of them actually make a great career. He is definitely one of those that I am surprised he even won one tournament and wouldn't dream on betting on him to continue the streak.

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Alcaraz is now especially very changeable. I think he's still a little under the pressure. But he, too, is only a child in fact. When he is a bit older and more experienced he will withstand the pressure better. We have seen that he has what it takes to become the next Nadal. Nadal was looking for a new gravel king because he is now at the end of his career, but for now Nadal is still the clay king. It is impressive how many times he has won Roland Garros. I don't think we will ever see a player who wins Roland Garros more times than Nadal has.

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Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 06:48:14 PM

Holger Rune has had a crazy drop off in terms of quality and levels after some commendable performances in the slams. He beat Tsitsipas in Wimbledon and then lost to Ruud and since then, he hasnt won a single match. Lost 7 matches in a row. He's lost to Carreno Busta, Peniston, Giron, Husler, Griekspoor and very recently to Zapata Miralles. High hopes from this kid and at the moment seems to be on a down ward spiral. Hope he picks things back up soon.

He is still a kid. You cannot expect him to play at a top level all of the time. Even Alcaraz dosent play at that top level all of the time. This kids need time,Rune is lost now and will need time to get back on track. This players that he lost to are all solid players he still needs experience to win them all easily

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Quote from: vennali on July 28, 2022, 10:02:12 AM

One of my rules for betting on Tennis is: Do not bet on a person who'd just won a title couple of days ago. That's because generally the drive and fitness is just not easy to sustain for 2 tournaments in a row. Unless you are part of the Big 4. Those guys are a different breed but almost anyone else, is bound to lose to a decent quality opponent. That's what is happening now at Umag. Cecchinato is a set and a break up against Musetti and looks very likely that Musetti will go down in 2 sets. If Musetti somehow makes a comeback, I'd be very surprised.

You are right vennali, I suffered last year with Sinner I think but this year one player has defied
that rule! Alcaraz won a number of tournaments and finished quite high in others.

Rio Open - Won the final
Mexican Open - Semi final loss
Miami Open - Final win
Barcelona - Final win
Madrid Open - Final win

So betting on him would surely have made anyone profits but yes I agree with venalli, usually
it doesnt work out and maybe Musetti doesnt get a "double bounce"

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One of my rules for betting on Tennis is: Do not bet on a person who'd just won a title couple of days ago. That's because generally the drive and fitness is just not easy to sustain for 2 tournaments in a row. Unless you are part of the Big 4. Those guys are a different breed but almost anyone else, is bound to lose to a decent quality opponent. That's what is happening now at Umag. Cecchinato is a set and a break up against Musetti and looks very likely that Musetti will go down in 2 sets. If Musetti somehow makes a comeback, I'd be very surprised.

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Seems 2 Australians are going to play against each other in round of 16. De Minaur and Duckworth, haven't seen the odds, but maybe I will bet later and go with the Over in this match as this could be a 3 set match between this two.

Only 3 seeded left, Isner (2), De Minaur (3) and Brooksby (6). The games though are kinda late in my timezone so I have to bet this early. Los Cabos tournament though, lots of good name, and defending champion is Norrie of England so this could be an interesting tournament in the coming days.

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