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June 18, 2022, 09:24:14 AM
^Hopes fading for Osaka, but I already stopped looking at her as an option for a while now, ever since the tears came. Feel bad, but yeah, better she just get back regulated before picking up a racquet again for competition.

^^ Kyrgios yeah. I don't know, I keep getting fooled by people, Tsitsi fooled me most recently, now I have no particular favourite darkhorse. Speaking of... just had a bit on enjoyment on ATP, thought Medvedev had a small scare, when he lost the advantage at 3 games each in first set... but after he got the tiebreaker, the outcome was a given.
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June 18, 2022, 08:46:13 AM
''Four-time Grand Slam champion Naomi Osaka has withdrawn from Wimbledon with an Achilles injury.''
''The 24-year-old previously said she was "unsure" if she would play Wimbledon due to its lack of ranking points.''
Speaking after her first-round French Open exit, Osaka said she was "not 100% sure" she would appear at the SW19 tournament.
"The intention of this measure was good, but the execution is all over the place," Osaka said in May of the decision to strip Wimbledon of points.
"I feel like if I play Wimbledon without points, it's more like an exhibition. I know this isn't true, right? But my brain just like feels that way.
"I would love to go, just to get some experience on the grass court, but at the same time I'm the type of player that gets motivated by seeing my ranking go up."


Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/61852544

So, the official reason is an injury, but it seems that Osaka didn't have much desire to play at Wimbledon even before the injury.
Too bad, I sincerely hoped that Wimbledon could be a tournament where her return to the top of women's tennis would begin.
How many more tennis players will eventually cancel Wimbledon?
No matter how this year's Wimbledon ends, it will obviously not be the strongest tournament due to the absence of the best tennis players, what is a great pity for tennis fans.
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June 18, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Kyrgios was considered one of the greatest talents in the world a few years ago. He was the one who should make things difficult for Nadal and Djokovic. Little has come of this, due to his mentality on the tennis court. Little appearance, or perhaps too much negative appearance. It just depends on how you look at it. He's not one of the favorites to win Wimbledon, but who knows, he could cause a sensation. In any case, with Kyrgios on the track there is always something to do, that's one thing that's for sure, haha.

When i saw Kyrgios for the first time and i was thinking he was gonna be no1 for sure in the coming years. But with his head he will never be in top 10 and that is a shame when you have a talent that can be one of the best in history. I still think he can win some tournaments but never to do something big
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June 18, 2022, 02:07:19 AM
Hurkacz proceed in semi-final in Halle, winning over FAA, and I like to watch him on Wimbledon, since he is the one that won last Federer match there, with 6:0 in last set (really expecting Federer to play Wimbledon once more, just to clear that last set from BIO)

Cilic, Kyrgios won today, and they could pass into next week on Wimbledon too
still, after all, I decided to go with Norrie, and thinking to have bit bigger bet on Swiatek, although really do not follow women tennis, but seems as value, looking on scores

Hurcacz v Kyrgios in one of the semi finals today, Kyrgios is favourite but I find it difficult
to back him, I might instead do a handicap bet on Hurcacz. I feel as the stakes mount
so too does the pressure on Kyrgios and the question arises, can he handle it?

I'm also thinking over at Queens Krajinovic plays Cilic, and another handicap on Krajinovic,
Cilic always seems to make hard work of winning



Looking at the semis on the womens side in both Berlin

Bencic v Sakkari
Jabeur v Gauff

and Birmingham

Zhang v Cirstea
Haddad Maia v Halep

Its even more difficult to pick winners IMO, very close match ups. I'm sure they
are delighted Swiatek is not plating !
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June 18, 2022, 12:40:18 AM
I don't follow women tennis much so i don't know how good swiatek is on grass  but considering her latest performance she will be hugely favourite
Swiatek is more to clay, but this year she's been outstanding and maybe she'll be successful on grass too, and I like how she's performed this year, overtaking some of the other seeds who were predicted to dominate but were the exact opposite like Sabalenka.
Swiatek's chance to win Wimbledon this year is huge, especially the defending champion Barty prefers to retire from tennis, or another young tennis player will be her competitor, Coco Gauff.

Yes, we have discussed that Swiatek is like the second coming of Williams, as she is a well developed player, clay or any fast surfaces, she can excel.

She's has a unbeaten streak that we don't know who is going to break it. She is on a different level right now.

Speaking of Wimbledon, I just check the outright odds and still Djokovic as the outstanding favorite at 1.80 followed by Alcaraz and Nadal at 7.50.
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June 17, 2022, 10:24:03 PM
I don't follow women tennis much so i don't know how good swiatek is on grass  but considering her latest performance she will be hugely favourite
Swiatek is more to clay, but this year she's been outstanding and maybe she'll be successful on grass too, and I like how she's performed this year, overtaking some of the other seeds who were predicted to dominate but were the exact opposite like Sabalenka.
Swiatek's chance to win Wimbledon this year is huge, especially the defending champion Barty prefers to retire from tennis, or another young tennis player will be her competitor, Coco Gauff.
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June 17, 2022, 05:54:21 PM
Hurkacz proceed in semi-final in Halle, winning over FAA, and I like to watch him on Wimbledon, since he is the one that won last Federer match there, with 6:0 in last set (really expecting Federer to play Wimbledon once more, just to clear that last set from BIO)

Cilic, Kyrgios won today, and they could pass into next week on Wimbledon too
still, after all, I decided to go with Norrie, and thinking to have bit bigger bet on Swiatek, although really do not follow women tennis, but seems as value, looking on scores
I don't follow women tennis much so i don't know how good swiatek is on grass  but considering her latest performance she will be hugely favourite and i don't see anyone able to stop her, as for mens i don't think its a good idea for federer to comeback at wimbeldon he did not compete in a long time so i am afraid he will lose in a bad way since he's been out of the high level for a long time.
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June 17, 2022, 03:44:54 PM
Kyrgios was considered one of the greatest talents in the world a few years ago. He was the one who should make things difficult for Nadal and Djokovic. Little has come of this, due to his mentality on the tennis court. Little appearance, or perhaps too much negative appearance. It just depends on how you look at it. He's not one of the favorites to win Wimbledon, but who knows, he could cause a sensation. In any case, with Kyrgios on the track there is always something to do, that's one thing that's for sure, haha.
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June 17, 2022, 03:40:57 PM
Hurkacz proceed in semi-final in Halle, winning over FAA, and I like to watch him on Wimbledon, since he is the one that won last Federer match there, with 6:0 in last set (really expecting Federer to play Wimbledon once more, just to clear that last set from BIO)

Cilic, Kyrgios won today, and they could pass into next week on Wimbledon too
still, after all, I decided to go with Norrie, and thinking to have bit bigger bet on Swiatek, although really do not follow women tennis, but seems as value, looking on scores
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June 17, 2022, 03:14:09 PM
I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.
Swiatek is overwhelming favorite for the title and odds of 2.5 sound almost too good to be true. I guess it is because she never had any significant results on grass but this time i believe it is a case of her being young and exploding just this year rather then her being bad on grass. She looked miles above all competition in last couple of tournaments and I expect her to continue in same fashion.

Not even gonna comment Serena, I don't see her as legit contender against anybody who can make her move around the pitch.


I think currently no one in the women tennis world is even close to taking a set from Swiatek let alone winning the match against her. Some seriously unlucky day must happen that she gets knocked out . So for me this is an easy every much under games and her to win the tournament

On grass there is possibly one who could pose a bit of a threat, Beatriz Haddad Maia from
Brazil is going very strong ATM, After winning Nottingham both singles and doubles she is
through to the semi finals at the Birmingham Classic. She played twice today and won to
meet Halep the second seed, that will be interesting. I think she is one to watch for Wimbledon
and possibly meeting Swiatek.
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June 17, 2022, 01:24:24 PM
I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.
Swiatek is overwhelming favorite for the title and odds of 2.5 sound almost too good to be true. I guess it is because she never had any significant results on grass but this time i believe it is a case of her being young and exploding just this year rather then her being bad on grass. She looked miles above all competition in last couple of tournaments and I expect her to continue in same fashion.

Not even gonna comment Serena, I don't see her as legit contender against anybody who can make her move around the pitch.


I think currently no one in the women tennis world is even close to taking a set from Swiatek let alone winning the match against her. Some seriously unlucky day must happen that she gets knocked out . So for me this is an easy every much under games and her to win the tournament
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June 17, 2022, 12:10:00 PM
I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.
Swiatek is overwhelming favorite for the title and odds of 2.5 sound almost too good to be true. I guess it is because she never had any significant results on grass but this time i believe it is a case of her being young and exploding just this year rather then her being bad on grass. She looked miles above all competition in last couple of tournaments and I expect her to continue in same fashion.

Not even gonna comment Serena, I don't see her as legit contender against anybody who can make her move around the pitch.
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June 17, 2022, 07:22:36 AM
I notice that all the talk is on the men's side... is that because everyone knows that Swiatek will win the women's?  Grin

It seems she's listed at around 2.5...

TBH, did not consider it, but seems as better value than Djokovic @1.83
she is playing in life-best form, and yeah, it is harder to win in a row, when you play best-of-3, because there is no room for mistake, one set down, and you are under pressure, but eventually she should win it

Serena is playing for media attention, it is hard to see her in second week, at this point

I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.

Don't know what to think about Serena, in a way it's similar to the situation Nadal has been in a few times this year, he basically won the French Open on one leg, simply because "It's Nadal at Roland Garros"... a similar argument could be advanced for "It's Serena at Wimbledon" (although her record doesn't quite compare with Nadal's absurd dominance in France).
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June 17, 2022, 07:06:48 AM
I notice that all the talk is on the men's side... is that because everyone knows that Swiatek will win the women's?  Grin

It seems she's listed at around 2.5...

TBH, did not consider it, but seems as better value than Djokovic @1.83
she is playing in life-best form, and yeah, it is harder to win in a row, when you play best-of-3, because there is no room for mistake, one set down, and you are under pressure, but eventually she should win it

Serena is playing for media attention, it is hard to see her in second week, at this point
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June 17, 2022, 06:41:53 AM
I notice that all the talk is on the men's side... is that because everyone knows that Swiatek will win the women's?  Grin

It seems she's listed at around 2.5... not sure if that's good or bad. Obviously there is always some uncertainty around a player making it safely through 7 matches in 14 days, irrespective of how good they are. TBH though I did probably expect something less than 2.5.

Serena seems to be around 17-19, but obviously no-one knows what sort of condition she's in.
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June 17, 2022, 06:25:43 AM
Otte is improving every single day and his good serve again pulls him to a win. After losing the first set he was able to comeback to an amazing win. He destroyed Bashilashvili in second set and won the match in his own country.

I also find that he is getting better day by day. On Monday he will be ranked 41st in the world. I really hope he can play a lot this year. At the moment he is playing in the quarter-finals against Khachanov. Here too, he lost his first set.  A tiebreak in the second set will probably decide whether there will be a third set or not.
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June 17, 2022, 02:01:04 AM

When Kyrgios wants to play he can be the best player in the world. But when his mind goes black he will lose instantly and not care about anymore in the match. This happened in his last loss when he lost the first set and didnt care anymore for second against Murray

I have the same feeling like you. When he is the good mood, he can win against the best players in the world but sometimes he just doesn't care. I like to watch him, it is always very entertaining, but betting on Kyrgios is always dangerous as you never know in what mood he is.

Definitely true. With Krygios it is probably better betting on single matches... it's unlikely he'll maintain his mental attitude for a whole tournament, and he often falls apart playing top players when they start to put him under a bit of pressure. His unpredictability makes him exciting, but for betting he's a lot of trouble.
He is also very good candidate for live betting if you are watching his matches. You can just see when something starts bothering him and then it is downward spiral.

Problem is that he is actually talented, so sometimes, even though he serves underhand, or plays all drop shots in the game or attacks every ball like there is no tomorrow it can work in his favour.

Should win against CB without much problems on grass though,  I have him on one ticket.
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June 17, 2022, 01:16:40 AM

When Kyrgios wants to play he can be the best player in the world. But when his mind goes black he will lose instantly and not care about anymore in the match. This happened in his last loss when he lost the first set and didnt care anymore for second against Murray

I have the same feeling like you. When he is the good mood, he can win against the best players in the world but sometimes he just doesn't care. I like to watch him, it is always very entertaining, but betting on Kyrgios is always dangerous as you never know in what mood he is.

Definitely true. With Krygios it is probably better betting on single matches... it's unlikely he'll maintain his mental attitude for a whole tournament, and he often falls apart playing top players when they start to put him under a bit of pressure. His unpredictability makes him exciting, but for betting he's a lot of trouble.
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June 16, 2022, 04:18:19 PM

When Kyrgios wants to play he can be the best player in the world. But when his mind goes black he will lose instantly and not care about anymore in the match. This happened in his last loss when he lost the first set and didnt care anymore for second against Murray

I have the same feeling like you. When he is the good mood, he can win against the best players in the world but sometimes he just doesn't care. I like to watch him, it is always very entertaining, but betting on Kyrgios is always dangerous as you never know in what mood he is.

I actually watched the match on replay (not live) and OMG he is unbelievable, there is
always controversy with him. Early in the second set he got a tim warning while not
on serve, obviously it didnt go down well with him, he went to his bench, sat down and
had a drink, the tournament supervisor was out talking to him.

Now well done to him for pulling himself together and working the win, but no I
wouldnt bet in him either.

He plays Carreno Busta tomorrow and is favoirite for that.
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June 16, 2022, 02:57:44 PM

When Kyrgios wants to play he can be the best player in the world. But when his mind goes black he will lose instantly and not care about anymore in the match. This happened in his last loss when he lost the first set and didnt care anymore for second against Murray

I have the same feeling like you. When he is the good mood, he can win against the best players in the world but sometimes he just doesn't care. I like to watch him, it is always very entertaining, but betting on Kyrgios is always dangerous as you never know in what mood he is.
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