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Kyrgios and Tsitsipas are playing each other in Halle right now. Tsitsipas won the first set with 7:5. Interestingly, Kyrgios played two break points in the second set and is currently leading 5:2. It will probably be a total of 3 sets. I didn't think it would be that difficult for Tsitsipas. I didn't think it would be that difficult for Tsitsipas.
''US Open: Russian and Belarusian players allowed to compete in New York''
''The US Open will allow Russian and Belarusian players to compete later this year after deciding not to follow Wimbledon's lead in banning them.
Players from the two nations will have to compete under a neutral flag at the final Grand Slam event of the season.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/61804940
So now we know the conditions under which Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players will be able to perform at the last GS this year in America.
I suppose this request will not be a problem for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players and that they will agree to a compromise so that they can play in America.
Lately, there's a little too much policy in sports, especially in tennis.
What do you think?
''The US Open will allow Russian and Belarusian players to compete later this year after deciding not to follow Wimbledon's lead in banning them.
Players from the two nations will have to compete under a neutral flag at the final Grand Slam event of the season.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/61804940
So now we know the conditions under which Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players will be able to perform at the last GS this year in America.
I suppose this request will not be a problem for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players and that they will agree to a compromise so that they can play in America.
Lately, there's a little too much policy in sports, especially in tennis.
What do you think?
@Daniel91 this is a welcome news as athletes should not suffer due to political reasons, and I’m sure that the Russian stars will be open to play under a neutral flag. However I expect them to be booed a lot and even face protests by fans condemning Russia’s action, hence they’ll have to consider all the aspects before agreeing to travel there and play.
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It might be better for Wimbledon betting if Draper loses against Ruusuvuori, to lower his profile a bit and dampen expectations.
It might be better for Wimbledon betting if Draper loses against Ruusuvuori, to lower his profile a bit and dampen expectations.
agree both ways
it is better for odds and he will have more time to rest before Wimbledon starts
there is only a handful of players that can win tournaments in a row, and I do not see any of them into underdogs, it is better for them to lose early this week, better chances to survive first rounds at Wimbledon
with that in mind, I am close to put money on Norrie, Berrettini is too low odds, and with another good result, he will came in tired on the tournament
Berrettini who is growing and growing into the grass court season, definitely one to watch
along with Cilic who plays Bublik tomorrow.
Draper plays Ruusuvuori tomorrow, the commentators on Amazon Prime recon it will be
a very close match there as Ruusuvuori is kind of under rated.
along with Cilic who plays Bublik tomorrow.
Draper plays Ruusuvuori tomorrow, the commentators on Amazon Prime recon it will be
a very close match there as Ruusuvuori is kind of under rated.
Berrettini definitely has a chance at Wimbledon, but he's fourth favourite, so I'm not sure there's a lot of betting opportunity.
I think there's a danger with Draper after his eye-catching win the other day that the press will start to get carried away and hyping him massively. There may be good opportunities to bet on him at Wimbledon depending on the draw, but this is only for so long as he continues to fly under the radar. It might be better for Wimbledon betting if Draper loses against Ruusuvuori, to lower his profile a bit and dampen expectations.
At Queen's Club Championships the match between Ruud and Peniston has just ended, with a clear defeat in two sets for Ruud (tie break both sets).
Bad performance for the Norwegian (seed player number 1!) , absolutely not at ease on this surface (he slipped a couple of times and missed sensational shots).
Definitely a long way from the form condition shown at Roland Garros
Peniston could be the "Van Rijthoven" of this tournament?
Bad performance for the Norwegian (seed player number 1!) , absolutely not at ease on this surface (he slipped a couple of times and missed sensational shots).
Definitely a long way from the form condition shown at Roland Garros
Peniston could be the "Van Rijthoven" of this tournament?
Its definitely worth watching him, he plays Cerúndolo on Thursday and he is classed as
a clay court player or at least he favours clay so there could be an opportunity there!
I know there is talk about the British lads doing well but Evans is already out, losing to
Berrettini who is growing and growing into the grass court season, definitely one to watch
along with Cilic who plays Bublik tomorrow.
Draper plays Ruusuvuori tomorrow, the commentators on Amazon Prime recon it will be
a very close match there as Ruusuvuori is kind of under rated.
''US Open: Russian and Belarusian players allowed to compete in New York''
''The US Open will allow Russian and Belarusian players to compete later this year after deciding not to follow Wimbledon's lead in banning them.
Players from the two nations will have to compete under a neutral flag at the final Grand Slam event of the season.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/61804940
So now we know the conditions under which Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players will be able to perform at the last GS this year in America.
I suppose this request will not be a problem for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players and that they will agree to a compromise so that they can play in America.
Lately, there's a little too much policy in sports, especially in tennis.
What do you think?
''The US Open will allow Russian and Belarusian players to compete later this year after deciding not to follow Wimbledon's lead in banning them.
Players from the two nations will have to compete under a neutral flag at the final Grand Slam event of the season.''
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/61804940
So now we know the conditions under which Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players will be able to perform at the last GS this year in America.
I suppose this request will not be a problem for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players and that they will agree to a compromise so that they can play in America.
Lately, there's a little too much policy in sports, especially in tennis.
What do you think?
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I never play outright winners before the tournament starts. I prefer to take them or handicaps on every single match as they come. That way I can adapt from round to round after seeing players perform.
I never play outright winners before the tournament starts. I prefer to take them or handicaps on every single match as they come. That way I can adapt from round to round after seeing players perform.
yeah, but you are basically following each and every match on tennis, from what I can see and read here
and that is required if you want to force players day-to-day
for me, that is simply not viable, and that is why I will put outright winner before the tournament, and follow it through the tournament with few bets (and putting Djokovic is no value for me, it does not bring any entertainment)
anyway, all this with beer money, nothing more, nothing less, mainly for fun
nevertheless, it is always good to hear some tips from you
At Queen's Club Championships the match between Ruud and Peniston has just ended, with a clear defeat in two sets for Ruud (tie break both sets).
Bad performance for the Norwegian (seed player number 1!) , absolutely not at ease on this surface (he slipped a couple of times and missed sensational shots).
Definitely a long way from the form condition shown at Roland Garros
Peniston could be the "Van Rijthoven" of this tournament?
Bad performance for the Norwegian (seed player number 1!) , absolutely not at ease on this surface (he slipped a couple of times and missed sensational shots).
Definitely a long way from the form condition shown at Roland Garros
Peniston could be the "Van Rijthoven" of this tournament?
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I don't think Isner will get too far.
I don't think Isner will get too far.
agree for Isner that it is a long shot by far, and he is old
but, I am practiacally brainstorming whom to put money on, to win the tournament
it is easiest to play Djokovic, but reward is too low
Murray is out from Queens, so basically two weeks are too much for him
still, Norrie losing Dimitrov made me to think about someone else than him, and all are above 10, so all are long shots
Yeah, it's difficult. Two long-shots (at around 80) who might be worth a look are maybe:
Dan Evans, he's British, and has the game to fight with most players... and will be seeded, so will avoid the big players in the first couple of rounds.
Sebastian Korda is up-and-coming and looks quite good on grass, his best ever slam performance was R4 at last year's Wimbledon.
I'm not sure about either of them winning the tournament, but they might be under-rated.
Another outsider (at 100) is Jack Draper, another Brit (20yo), who beat Taylor Fritz pretty comprehensively on grass the other day.
I never play outright winners before the tournament starts. I prefer to take them or handicaps on every single match as they come. That way I can adapt from round to round after seeing players perform.
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I don't think Isner will get too far.
I don't think Isner will get too far.
agree for Isner that it is a long shot by far, and he is old
but, I am practiacally brainstorming whom to put money on, to win the tournament
it is easiest to play Djokovic, but reward is too low
Murray is out from Queens, so basically two weeks are too much for him
still, Norrie losing Dimitrov made me to think about someone else than him, and all are above 10, so all are long shots
Yeah, it's difficult. Two long-shots (at around 80) who might be worth a look are maybe:
Dan Evans, he's British, and has the game to fight with most players... and will be seeded, so will avoid the big players in the first couple of rounds.
Sebastian Korda is up-and-coming and looks quite good on grass, his best ever slam performance was R4 at last year's Wimbledon.
I'm not sure about either of them winning the tournament, but they might be under-rated.
Another outsider (at 100) is Jack Draper, another Brit (20yo), who beat Taylor Fritz pretty comprehensively on grass the other day.
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I don't think Isner will get too far.
I don't think Isner will get too far.
agree for Isner that it is a long shot by far, and he is old
but, I am practiacally brainstorming whom to put money on, to win the tournament
it is easiest to play Djokovic, but reward is too low
Murray is out from Queens, so basically two weeks are too much for him
still, Norrie losing Dimitrov made me to think about someone else than him, and all are above 10, so all are long shots
it is a specific to play on grass, and good serve can take you to finals, maybe Isner can do it? statistics are not that important on Wimbledon, and we did not see top players so far on grass, first match will be an issue for all of them
I don't think Isner will get too far. Yes his serve is a potent weapon on grass, but it's not enough. When he comes up against someone good, they can usually win enough points on his serve to take the match, and their own serve is usually untroubled.
Here's Isner's full slam record, only once past 3R at Wimbledon. Of course some of that is due to being tired after ridiculously long matches (e.g. the infamous 6–4, 3–6, 6–7(7–9), 7–6(7–3), 70–68 match vs Mahut in 2010)... but he just doesn't have enough beyond his big serve to progress far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Isner
Lots of interesting matches today. I played several tickets with various choices including ML and habdicaps on following:
Samsonova
Jabeur
Khachanov
Bonzi
Not gonna talk much about first 3 but Bonzi vs. Tsitipas looks like a nice one to me. Tsitsipas is a big favorite but Bonzi has more wins on grass last season than Tsitsipas in last 4 seasons combined. I am taking +5.5 @1.5 as absolute bargain, plus 4.5 @1.8 on a serius ticket and ML @4.0 on a low stake ticket.
Genuinely sounds like a good bet on Bonzi, especially looking at grass. Good servers are hard to be broken on grass and Bonzi can hold his own. Also, given the fact that Tsitsipas just lost to Andy Murray few days ago. Wawrinka vs Tiafoe is what I'm looking to bet on live and one of Paul vs Shapo sets to go over 12.5 games might be a decent bet as well. Samsonova
Jabeur
Khachanov
Bonzi
Not gonna talk much about first 3 but Bonzi vs. Tsitipas looks like a nice one to me. Tsitsipas is a big favorite but Bonzi has more wins on grass last season than Tsitsipas in last 4 seasons combined. I am taking +5.5 @1.5 as absolute bargain, plus 4.5 @1.8 on a serius ticket and ML @4.0 on a low stake ticket.
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What are the odds on Cilic? I have a feeling he will go far this season and if he is on opposite site of Djoković I fully expect him to reach final. Maybe a bit optimistic prediction but there isn't that much good grass players left in the draw. We did not see Djoko on grass this season and Berettini did not look as sharp as last season even though he won the title.
What are the odds on Cilic? I have a feeling he will go far this season and if he is on opposite site of Djoković I fully expect him to reach final. Maybe a bit optimistic prediction but there isn't that much good grass players left in the draw. We did not see Djoko on grass this season and Berettini did not look as sharp as last season even though he won the title.
Cilic is @23, a bit better than Murray, but below Kyrgios, definitelly better pick than Tsitsi @13, maybe worth a try
will be a major blow for Djokovic not to take this one, Berrettini is @10.5, thought to take Norrie @51, but he did not looked good so far, losing yesterday to Dimitrov
it is a specific to play on grass, and good serve can take you to finals, maybe Isner can do it? statistics are not that important on Wimbledon, and we did not see top players so far on grass, first match will be an issue for all of them
still remembering Kyrgios upset against Nadal in Wimbledon, almost ten years ago, when Nadal said, it is time for new players to take over, and fast forward, it is almost the same situation
Lots of interesting matches today. I played several tickets with various choices including ML and habdicaps on following:
Samsonova
Jabeur
Khachanov
Bonzi
Not gonna talk much about first 3 but Bonzi vs. Tsitipas looks like a nice one to me. Tsitsipas is a big favorite but Bonzi has more wins on grass last season than Tsitsipas in last 4 seasons combined. I am taking +5.5 @1.5 as absolute bargain, plus 4.5 @1.8 on a serius ticket and ML @4.0 on a low stake ticket.
Samsonova
Jabeur
Khachanov
Bonzi
Not gonna talk much about first 3 but Bonzi vs. Tsitipas looks like a nice one to me. Tsitsipas is a big favorite but Bonzi has more wins on grass last season than Tsitsipas in last 4 seasons combined. I am taking +5.5 @1.5 as absolute bargain, plus 4.5 @1.8 on a serius ticket and ML @4.0 on a low stake ticket.
What are the odds on Cilic? I have a feeling he will go far this season and if he is on opposite site of Djoković I fully expect him to reach final. Maybe a bit optimistic prediction but there isn't that much good grass players left in the draw. We did not see Djoko on grass this season and Berettini did not look as sharp as last season even though he won the title.
Cilic seems to be similar odds to Murray, with around 10 players being seen as more likely to win. So he's probably under-rated, I'd have him in my top 5 for sure. Cilic certainly has a good chance, and I'd say a better chance than Murray. As you say, a lot depends on the draw, he could end up in the same part as Djokovic, which would be a tough match and leave him tired if he won, and so might make his next round game tough. Or he could end up on the other side and have an easy route through to the final.
No-one's really talking about Alcaraz, he is a bit of an unknown and could do well... but he is down as the second favourite, so it wouldn't exactly surprise anyone.
it would be a shock to see Murray win over Djokovic in this conditions, nevertheless his good form, and Djokovic not being at his best lately
Yeah, you'd still favour Djokovic. I was just making the point really that a refreshed Murray winning a one-off match against Djokovic is probably more likely than Murray winning 7 consecutive best-of-5-set matches within a fortnight.
Although Alexander Zverev has been injured he is now number 2 in the world rankings. He has never been there before and I hope he will be fit again soon so he can continue playing. Hopefully at the US Open.
Andy Murray is now on Number 47 and back in the top 50.
This is a big injury for him. Three lateral ligament have got torn and surgery have got over. Now to work on it and comeback with his previous form takes time. His words are really positive “We all have our own journey in life. This is part of mine,”“Next week I’ll reach a career-high ranking of number 2 in the world, but this morning I had to undergo surgery. Already he have known about it. Andy Murray is now on Number 47 and back in the top 50.
As for the result of this match, it was a surprise for everyone. However, I think we should not look at it from the perspective of how good van Rijthoven is, but how indisposed Medvedev was. I will definitely be watching van Rijthoven's progress from today onwards, but I don't expect anything spectacular. It was simply Medvedev's weaker day.
Medvedev was far from his best but Van Rijthoven was simply the better player and he played good all week. He also had wins against Fritz and Auger-Aliassime who are also not pancakes. It will be interesting to see how much Van Rijthoven can further evolve and if he can really reach the top 10-20 of the world.
Although Alexander Zverev has been injured he is now number 2 in the world rankings. He has never been there before and I hope he will be fit again soon so he can continue playing. Hopefully at the US Open.
Andy Murray is now on Number 47 and back in the top 50.
Andy Murray is now on Number 47 and back in the top 50.
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I mean, if he drew Djokovic in the first round, it wouldn't be a massive shock to see Murray win that match... and I think this would be easier for him than to beat a bunch of random top 50 players 7 times consecutively in a fortnight over best-of-5-sets.
I mean, if he drew Djokovic in the first round, it wouldn't be a massive shock to see Murray win that match... and I think this would be easier for him than to beat a bunch of random top 50 players 7 times consecutively in a fortnight over best-of-5-sets.
it would be a shock to see Murray win over Djokovic in this conditions, nevertheless his good form, and Djokovic not being at his best lately
there is a silver lining for Djokovic, in the fact that he will be top seed, no matter ATP position, since top2 players will be out
in this Wimbledon, every result apart from winning Wimbledon is a real surprise for Djokovic, it is hard to find player that could give him troubles, and odds are showing that, with Alcaraz and Nadal as second bests, with Berrettini, and Djokovic below @2, Wimbledon not even started
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