Topic: Tennis League All Thread - page 258. (Read 202147 times)

I think the +4.5 is a safe bet for Murray, but the odds are not that very attractive. But if it's a sure win, then why not?

Hope some of you cashed in on that my prediction. Handicap passed super easy and even ML was not really in doubt at any point. I love beginnings of grass season, so many opportunities to play against people not used to that surface.

There will be shitload of players who don't know how to stand on grass in Wimbledon qualification and first rounds. Gotta hone my skills before that.

Yeah, that was a good tip mate, love how Andy manages this game against Tsitsipas.

Nick might be different though, I think this is going to be another close one. I will take Murray +1.5, maybe he could steal 1 set but eventually Nick might be too much for him.

Berrettini winning the first set against Otte 7-6, and it's on the second set, 5-5 Mateo serving with 40-15 lead.

This seems to be Andy Murray’s first win against any top tennis player in the last 6 years, according to this article:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/61761802

This is a really long time and I believe that no one believed in Andy anymore, and maybe even he didn't believe in his return anymore.
The question of all questions is whether this is an indication of Andy Murray’s big comeback or just one random win that won’t change anything substantially. What do you think?
For me, Andy Murray has always been one of my favorite tennis players and I am really happy that he has not given up on his tennis career and that he still has faith in himself and fights.
Congratulation Andy, fantastic match and great victory!

Jating

hero member

Activity: 2842

Merit: 772

Quote from: Kemarit on June 10, 2022, 09:17:48 PM

I think the +4.5 is a safe bet for Murray, but the odds are not that very attractive. But if it's a sure win, then why not?

Hope some of you cashed in on that my prediction. Handicap passed super easy and even ML was not really in doubt at any point. I love beginnings of grass season, so many opportunities to play against people not used to that surface.

There will be shitload of players who don't know how to stand on grass in Wimbledon qualification and first rounds. Gotta hone my skills before that.

Yeah, that was a good tip mate, love how Andy manages this game against Tsitsipas.

Nick might be different though, I think this is going to be another close one. I will take Murray +1.5, maybe he could steal 1 set but eventually Nick might be too much for him.

Berrettini winning the first set against Otte 7-6, and it's on the second set, 5-5 Mateo serving with 40-15 lead.

casperBGD

legendary

Activity: 2156

Merit: 1151

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

~snip

So it will be Kyrgios vs Murray next on semifinals. For sentimental reasons, I might go and put a medium bet on Murray to win against Nick.

be aware that Kyrgios is playing really good tennis at the moment
nevertheless, I would like to see Murray progressing long on Wimbledon, for the sake of good old times, and he needs wins like this for self-confidence

interesting to see both of the being 60+ on ATP list

Berrettini is also in semi-final, and could progress easy to finals, odds for a win are not big, but straight set can come as well

Kemarit

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1353

Quote from: Cnut237 on June 10, 2022, 10:34:05 AM

I think the +4.5 is a safe bet for Murray, but the odds are not that very attractive. But if it's a sure win, then why not?

Hope some of you cashed in on that my prediction. Handicap passed super easy and even ML was not really in doubt at any point. I love beginnings of grass season, so many opportunities to play against people not used to that surface.

There will be shitload of players who don't know how to stand on grass in Wimbledon qualification and first rounds. Gotta hone my skills before that.

I missed out of this one, yeah, been following Tsitsipas for a while now and i know that he is more on a clay surface player. Not sure why I didn't look for this match because I could have put handicap or ML on Murray.

So it will be Kyrgios vs Murray next on semifinals. For sentimental reasons, I might go and put a medium bet on Murray to win against Nick.

Trofo

legendary

Activity: 2646

Merit: 2691

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

Quote from: Trofo on June 10, 2022, 10:29:37 AM

I am accepting your argument that he has difficulty recovering between matches but not your conclusion. Grand Slams are special in a way that you get a day of rest in between matches. Shouldn't that work marvelously for him?

The day off between matches will work in his favour, but the fact that slams are best of five sets will work against him.
I'd suggest that if he wins a dramatic and lengthy five-set match against a tough seed on say a Wednesday, the chances of him being fully recovered and ready to repeat again in the next round by the Friday are very low. And the chances of him winning seven best-of-five-set matches in two weeks, which is what it takes to win a slam, is extremely low. IMHO the only way he could win Wimbledon is if every match is easy and he wins them all quickly... but this doesn't seem that likely. There are some tough grass players out there, and it's difficult to break serve on grass, which can make matches longer.

I should add that I'm from the UK, and desperately want Murray to win... but can't see it happening.

You got a point there but it doesn't make me change my strategy of forcing him at this moment. We have a privilege of seeing how his previous matches went before betting on next one. If he has two 5 setters in a row I am skipping him for next match 100%.

I still think that one day of rest means more than possibility of 5 sets. Especially if he manages to keep matches short.

Ratash

full member

Activity: 1540

Merit: 102

Quote from: Trofo on June 10, 2022, 10:29:37 AM

Tsitsipas tomorrow will play against Murray. For sure it's a good match to follow we will see good tennis.
I think that Murray could be easily defeated by the greek player...but generally speaking I think this is the kind of match that could provide some surprise and hard to be guessed. (maybe it will be decided in 3 sets?)
What is your opinion for that match?

It was indeed hard to predict and even the outcome was surprising, murray managed to win 2 0 but it was not an easy match the first set was tight it ended in the tie break but in the second one it was a domination from murray he won his serves easily and managed to break in one of tsitsipas serves, i think he or kyrgios will most likely win this tournament.

Cnut237

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1277

I am accepting your argument that he has difficulty recovering between matches but not your conclusion. Grand Slams are special in a way that you get a day of rest in between matches. Shouldn't that work marvelously for him?

The day off between matches will work in his favour, but the fact that slams are best of five sets will work against him.
I'd suggest that if he wins a dramatic and lengthy five-set match against a tough seed on say a Wednesday, the chances of him being fully recovered and ready to repeat again in the next round by the Friday are very low. And the chances of him winning seven best-of-five-set matches in two weeks, which is what it takes to win a slam, is extremely low. IMHO the only way he could win Wimbledon is if every match is easy and he wins them all quickly... but this doesn't seem that likely. There are some tough grass players out there, and it's difficult to break serve on grass, which can make matches longer.

I should add that I'm from the UK, and desperately want Murray to win... but can't see it happening.

Trofo

legendary

Activity: 2646

Merit: 2691

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

Quote from: Cnut237 on June 10, 2022, 10:22:59 AM

Yep, this is a valid point. One thing we do need to be aware of with Murray specifically though, is his difficulty in progressing deep in big tournaments. A one-off match when he's rested, and particularly on grass, he can still beat almost anyone... the difficulty comes in his body not being able to recover between matches. At Wimbledon he might come up with one or even two great wins, but he's unlikely to progress deep into the tournament.

Now when you wrote that I am accepting your argument that he has difficulty recovering between matches but not your conclusion. Grand Slams are special in a way that you get a day of rest in between matches. Shouldn't that work marvelously for him? Add to that a fact that he is British, whole country will cheer for him and organizers always have soft spot for home players. He will have basically perfect match timings and a day of rest. This is his best chance to win something big with all the big names missing. This could be his tournament IMHO, not so many players I would bet on against him on grass in Wimbeldon draw.

Cnut237

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1277

I think the +4.5 is a safe bet for Murray, but the odds are not that very attractive. But if it's a sure win, then why not?

Hope some of you cashed in on that my prediction. Handicap passed super easy and even ML was not really in doubt at any point. I love beginnings of grass season, so many opportunities to play against people not used to that surface.

There will be shitload of players who don't know how to stand on grass in Wimbledon qualification and first rounds. Gotta hone my skills before that.

Yep, this is a valid point. One thing we do need to be aware of with Murray specifically though, is his difficulty in progressing deep in big tournaments. A one-off match when he's rested, and particularly on grass, he can still beat almost anyone... the difficulty comes in his body not being able to recover between matches. At Wimbledon he might come up with one or even two great wins, but he's unlikely to progress deep into the tournament.

Trofo

legendary

Activity: 2646

Merit: 2691

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

Quote from: aoluain on June 10, 2022, 07:12:41 AM

I think the +4.5 is a safe bet for Murray, but the odds are not that very attractive. But if it's a sure win, then why not?

Hope some of you cashed in on that my prediction. Handicap passed super easy and even ML was not really in doubt at any point. I love beginnings of grass season, so many opportunities to play against people not used to that surface.

There will be shitload of players who don't know how to stand on grass in Wimbledon qualification and first rounds. Gotta hone my skills before that.

Jating

hero member

Activity: 2842

Merit: 772

Quote from: btc_angela on June 10, 2022, 07:04:03 AM

Quote from: Trofo on June 10, 2022, 02:37:48 AM

Quote from: aoluain on June 10, 2022, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: babygun on June 09, 2022, 05:20:53 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on June 10, 2022, 07:04:03 AM

Tsitsipas tomorrow will play against Murray. For sure it's a good match to follow we will see good tennis.
I think that Murray could be easily defeated by the greek player...but generally speaking I think this is the kind of match that could provide some surprise and hard to be guessed. (maybe it will be decided in 3 sets?)
What is your opinion for that match?

Tsitsipas is the big favorite to win it, but maybe Murray can indeed take away one set. We will never see the old Murray again, his movements on the court are limited to his injuries, but it is still quite early in the tournament, so I can see Murray winning 1 set.

I think Murray has a chance. No doubt he would have seen Rune despatch Tsitsipas at
Roland Garros and fancy his chances. On the other hand though Tsitsipas will have
learned a lot from that game and will for sure be wary of Murray's abilities eventhough
he has lesser speed and agility he still posses his shot making skills. Should be interesting.

Tsitsipas is not really that good on grass while Murray was one of the best in his prime. I wouldn't be surprised even of Murray wins this match. My bet is on Murray +4.5 for that added bit of security. Now I just hope he will serve first Grin

Should be nice match to watch and I plan on doing just that. These are two players that will get us many betting opportunities in grass season so always good to actually see them play.

Yes, Tsitsipas is more of a clay court specialist that's why in the first half of the year, he really plays very good. So it might be good to bet on the handicap for Murray here. Maybe he will still have some in his gas tank to surprised us all if he pull a upset.

The odd for Andy ML is 2.22, very attractive for those who love to bet on the underdog.

Fucsovics vs Krygios could also be a entertaining match. I'm taking Nick -2.5 handicap.

And thats something I rarely do, is bet on the underdog. Going on Murray with a +4.5
is 1.25 odds as per Trofo. I have enough in my wallet to have one more bet before I
load it up again so I'm going with Medvedev to beat Ivashka @ 1.2, I think/hope
thats safer.

I would love to see Murray beating Tsitsipas, he deserves it and deserves to get into
the finals of this and other tournaments.

I think the +4.5 is a safe bet for Murray, but the odds are not that very attractive. But if it's a sure win, then why not?

I'm not going to load up on this tournament though, not that I don't like it. But currently I have to replenish first my wallet with crypto. But maybe, once we reach the finals and depending who is going to face each other, maybe I will put some bets. But best of luck to you guys.

bct_ail

legendary

Activity: 2660

Merit: 2229

https://t1p.de/6ghrf

The match between Tsitsipas and Murray is about to start in about 20 minutes. Before that game Bonzi should play against Otte. But we have a "walkover" there. Bonzi could not play because of stomach pain. So Otte got into the semi-final without a fight. There he will meet Sonego or Berrettini. This is the second time Otte has reached a semi-final at the ATP-Tour.

aoluain

legendary

Activity: 2436

Merit: 1362

Quote from: Trofo on June 10, 2022, 02:37:48 AM

Quote from: aoluain on June 10, 2022, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: babygun on June 09, 2022, 05:20:53 PM

Quote from: Trofo on June 10, 2022, 02:37:48 AM

Tsitsipas tomorrow will play against Murray. For sure it's a good match to follow we will see good tennis.
I think that Murray could be easily defeated by the greek player...but generally speaking I think this is the kind of match that could provide some surprise and hard to be guessed. (maybe it will be decided in 3 sets?)
What is your opinion for that match?

Tsitsipas is the big favorite to win it, but maybe Murray can indeed take away one set. We will never see the old Murray again, his movements on the court are limited to his injuries, but it is still quite early in the tournament, so I can see Murray winning 1 set.

I think Murray has a chance. No doubt he would have seen Rune despatch Tsitsipas at
Roland Garros and fancy his chances. On the other hand though Tsitsipas will have
learned a lot from that game and will for sure be wary of Murray's abilities eventhough
he has lesser speed and agility he still posses his shot making skills. Should be interesting.

Tsitsipas is not really that good on grass while Murray was one of the best in his prime. I wouldn't be surprised even of Murray wins this match. My bet is on Murray +4.5 for that added bit of security. Now I just hope he will serve first Grin

Should be nice match to watch and I plan on doing just that. These are two players that will get us many betting opportunities in grass season so always good to actually see them play.

Yes, Tsitsipas is more of a clay court specialist that's why in the first half of the year, he really plays very good. So it might be good to bet on the handicap for Murray here. Maybe he will still have some in his gas tank to surprised us all if he pull a upset.

The odd for Andy ML is 2.22, very attractive for those who love to bet on the underdog.

Fucsovics vs Krygios could also be a entertaining match. I'm taking Nick -2.5 handicap.

And thats something I rarely do, is bet on the underdog. Going on Murray with a +4.5
is 1.25 odds as per Trofo. I have enough in my wallet to have one more bet before I
load it up again so I'm going with Medvedev to beat Ivashka @ 1.2, I think/hope
thats safer.

I would love to see Murray beating Tsitsipas, he deserves it and deserves to get into
the finals of this and other tournaments.

btc_angela

hero member

Activity: 2660

Merit: 551

Quote from: aoluain on June 10, 2022, 01:27:28 AM

Quote from: babygun on June 09, 2022, 05:20:53 PM