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June 18, 2022, 04:13:56 PM
Djokovic has of course had a strange year because he refused to be vaccinated. Was an extremely bad example for the rest of the world. What really annoyed me is that he thought he could still participate in everything. I remember the Australian Prime Minister personally expelling him from the country, and rightly so. He has not made himself popular with tennis fans, except from his own country. Players like Djokovic are of course so good that they need little preparation. Maybe he just has a good training schedule with high-level opponents.
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June 18, 2022, 03:17:47 PM
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Not sure why Djokovic isn't playing anywhere? He needs some match on grass for sure before Wimbledon and he will not have any. This makes me think he is maybe quietly nursing some injury.

agree, this could be it, although Djokovic is as injury prone, as one can be
RG loss was not good on him, and it is probably mental strength that he is keeping, not really sure, but as I remember he started grass season on Wimbledon last season as well

one more loss on some small tournament would not do him any good, and it is probably hardest to win in a row on grass surface, since one/two mistake can put you down against good server
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June 18, 2022, 02:48:38 PM
so, second week into grass season, and second final for Berrettini, he is setting his candidacy for good result at Wimbledon
Medvedev is also in second final, and he lost last week, Hurkacz is certainly not an easy one to beat, will be interesting

Krajinovic reached final with Berrettini with a win over Cilic, a bit surprise for me, but key points were on Filip side, and Cilic did not worked out break in second set first gem
It was a strange match for Cilic on serve, he had about 15 aces so you think he must have served good but then you realize he also had just about 50% of first serves and bad conversion on second serve. Did not expect Krajinovic to do well on grass but he was very solid this week.

Berrettini is winning and what is even more important he is getting better and better with each match. He was a bit shaky last week but it already looks much better this week. As it stand, top favorite to take Wimbledon title. Not sure why Djokovic isn't playing anywhere? He needs some match on grass for sure before Wimbledon and he will not have any. This makes me think he is maybe quietly nursing some injury.
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June 18, 2022, 02:25:48 PM
so, second week into grass season, and second final for Berrettini, he is setting his candidacy for good result at Wimbledon
Medvedev is also in second final, and he lost last week, Hurkacz is certainly not an easy one to beat, will be interesting

Krajinovic reached final with Berrettini with a win over Cilic, a bit surprise for me, but key points were on Filip side, and Cilic did not worked out break in second set first gem
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June 18, 2022, 01:55:12 PM
^Hopes fading for Osaka, but I already stopped looking at her as an option for a while now, ever since the tears came. Feel bad, but yeah, better she just get back regulated before picking up a racquet again for competition.

^^ Kyrgios yeah. I don't know, I keep getting fooled by people, Tsitsi fooled me most recently, now I have no particular favourite darkhorse. Speaking of... just had a bit on enjoyment on ATP, thought Medvedev had a small scare, when he lost the advantage at 3 games each in first set... but after he got the tiebreaker, the outcome was a given.

Kyrgios and Tsitsipas are for me two players now that need to be avoided in later rounds of tournaments. They just cannot win a tournament for Kyrgios max is semi final and for Tsitsipas max is final. Plus Kyrgios is a hot head so he should be avoided most if the times
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June 18, 2022, 12:39:56 PM
^Hopes fading for Osaka, but I already stopped looking at her as an option for a while now, ever since the tears came. Feel bad, but yeah, better she just get back regulated before picking up a racquet again for competition.

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It is too bad for Osaka as I liked watching her play and for one moment, she really dominated the field and won 4 grand slams. I don't think all hope is lost yet, if she can find some good mental health coaches, it can do wonders for her and she may start winning again grand slams. She still got the talent.

Yea I agree, Osaka is only 24, she has plenty of time to get back to winning ways.
It is a pity that she misses Wimbledon and TBH she has been off the radar for
a good number of weeks while everyone talks about Swiatek.


^^ Kyrgios yeah. I don't know, I keep getting fooled by people, Tsitsi fooled me most recently, now I have no particular favourite darkhorse. Speaking of... just had a bit on enjoyment on ATP, thought Medvedev had a small scare, when he lost the advantage at 3 games each in first set... but after he got the tiebreaker, the outcome was a given.

Gea I stopped backing him a while ago, today the bet on Hurkacz paid off, he beat Nick
in 3 sets, I didnt see it but I'm sure there was plenty of giving out and the odd raquet
smash too
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June 18, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
^Hopes fading for Osaka, but I already stopped looking at her as an option for a while now, ever since the tears came. Feel bad, but yeah, better she just get back regulated before picking up a racquet again for competition.

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It is too bad for Osaka as I liked watching her play and for one moment, she really dominated the field and won 4 grand slams. I don't think all hope is lost yet, if she can find some good mental health coaches, it can do wonders for her and she may start winning again grand slams. She still got the talent.
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June 18, 2022, 09:24:14 AM
^Hopes fading for Osaka, but I already stopped looking at her as an option for a while now, ever since the tears came. Feel bad, but yeah, better she just get back regulated before picking up a racquet again for competition.

^^ Kyrgios yeah. I don't know, I keep getting fooled by people, Tsitsi fooled me most recently, now I have no particular favourite darkhorse. Speaking of... just had a bit on enjoyment on ATP, thought Medvedev had a small scare, when he lost the advantage at 3 games each in first set... but after he got the tiebreaker, the outcome was a given.
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June 18, 2022, 08:46:13 AM
''Four-time Grand Slam champion Naomi Osaka has withdrawn from Wimbledon with an Achilles injury.''
''The 24-year-old previously said she was "unsure" if she would play Wimbledon due to its lack of ranking points.''
Speaking after her first-round French Open exit, Osaka said she was "not 100% sure" she would appear at the SW19 tournament.
"The intention of this measure was good, but the execution is all over the place," Osaka said in May of the decision to strip Wimbledon of points.
"I feel like if I play Wimbledon without points, it's more like an exhibition. I know this isn't true, right? But my brain just like feels that way.
"I would love to go, just to get some experience on the grass court, but at the same time I'm the type of player that gets motivated by seeing my ranking go up."


Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/61852544

So, the official reason is an injury, but it seems that Osaka didn't have much desire to play at Wimbledon even before the injury.
Too bad, I sincerely hoped that Wimbledon could be a tournament where her return to the top of women's tennis would begin.
How many more tennis players will eventually cancel Wimbledon?
No matter how this year's Wimbledon ends, it will obviously not be the strongest tournament due to the absence of the best tennis players, what is a great pity for tennis fans.
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June 18, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Kyrgios was considered one of the greatest talents in the world a few years ago. He was the one who should make things difficult for Nadal and Djokovic. Little has come of this, due to his mentality on the tennis court. Little appearance, or perhaps too much negative appearance. It just depends on how you look at it. He's not one of the favorites to win Wimbledon, but who knows, he could cause a sensation. In any case, with Kyrgios on the track there is always something to do, that's one thing that's for sure, haha.

When i saw Kyrgios for the first time and i was thinking he was gonna be no1 for sure in the coming years. But with his head he will never be in top 10 and that is a shame when you have a talent that can be one of the best in history. I still think he can win some tournaments but never to do something big
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June 18, 2022, 02:07:19 AM
Hurkacz proceed in semi-final in Halle, winning over FAA, and I like to watch him on Wimbledon, since he is the one that won last Federer match there, with 6:0 in last set (really expecting Federer to play Wimbledon once more, just to clear that last set from BIO)

Cilic, Kyrgios won today, and they could pass into next week on Wimbledon too
still, after all, I decided to go with Norrie, and thinking to have bit bigger bet on Swiatek, although really do not follow women tennis, but seems as value, looking on scores

Hurcacz v Kyrgios in one of the semi finals today, Kyrgios is favourite but I find it difficult
to back him, I might instead do a handicap bet on Hurcacz. I feel as the stakes mount
so too does the pressure on Kyrgios and the question arises, can he handle it?

I'm also thinking over at Queens Krajinovic plays Cilic, and another handicap on Krajinovic,
Cilic always seems to make hard work of winning



Looking at the semis on the womens side in both Berlin

Bencic v Sakkari
Jabeur v Gauff

and Birmingham

Zhang v Cirstea
Haddad Maia v Halep

Its even more difficult to pick winners IMO, very close match ups. I'm sure they
are delighted Swiatek is not plating !
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June 18, 2022, 12:40:18 AM
I don't follow women tennis much so i don't know how good swiatek is on grass  but considering her latest performance she will be hugely favourite
Swiatek is more to clay, but this year she's been outstanding and maybe she'll be successful on grass too, and I like how she's performed this year, overtaking some of the other seeds who were predicted to dominate but were the exact opposite like Sabalenka.
Swiatek's chance to win Wimbledon this year is huge, especially the defending champion Barty prefers to retire from tennis, or another young tennis player will be her competitor, Coco Gauff.

Yes, we have discussed that Swiatek is like the second coming of Williams, as she is a well developed player, clay or any fast surfaces, she can excel.

She's has a unbeaten streak that we don't know who is going to break it. She is on a different level right now.

Speaking of Wimbledon, I just check the outright odds and still Djokovic as the outstanding favorite at 1.80 followed by Alcaraz and Nadal at 7.50.
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June 17, 2022, 10:24:03 PM
I don't follow women tennis much so i don't know how good swiatek is on grass  but considering her latest performance she will be hugely favourite
Swiatek is more to clay, but this year she's been outstanding and maybe she'll be successful on grass too, and I like how she's performed this year, overtaking some of the other seeds who were predicted to dominate but were the exact opposite like Sabalenka.
Swiatek's chance to win Wimbledon this year is huge, especially the defending champion Barty prefers to retire from tennis, or another young tennis player will be her competitor, Coco Gauff.
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June 17, 2022, 05:54:21 PM
Hurkacz proceed in semi-final in Halle, winning over FAA, and I like to watch him on Wimbledon, since he is the one that won last Federer match there, with 6:0 in last set (really expecting Federer to play Wimbledon once more, just to clear that last set from BIO)

Cilic, Kyrgios won today, and they could pass into next week on Wimbledon too
still, after all, I decided to go with Norrie, and thinking to have bit bigger bet on Swiatek, although really do not follow women tennis, but seems as value, looking on scores
I don't follow women tennis much so i don't know how good swiatek is on grass  but considering her latest performance she will be hugely favourite and i don't see anyone able to stop her, as for mens i don't think its a good idea for federer to comeback at wimbeldon he did not compete in a long time so i am afraid he will lose in a bad way since he's been out of the high level for a long time.
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June 17, 2022, 03:44:54 PM
Kyrgios was considered one of the greatest talents in the world a few years ago. He was the one who should make things difficult for Nadal and Djokovic. Little has come of this, due to his mentality on the tennis court. Little appearance, or perhaps too much negative appearance. It just depends on how you look at it. He's not one of the favorites to win Wimbledon, but who knows, he could cause a sensation. In any case, with Kyrgios on the track there is always something to do, that's one thing that's for sure, haha.
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June 17, 2022, 03:40:57 PM
Hurkacz proceed in semi-final in Halle, winning over FAA, and I like to watch him on Wimbledon, since he is the one that won last Federer match there, with 6:0 in last set (really expecting Federer to play Wimbledon once more, just to clear that last set from BIO)

Cilic, Kyrgios won today, and they could pass into next week on Wimbledon too
still, after all, I decided to go with Norrie, and thinking to have bit bigger bet on Swiatek, although really do not follow women tennis, but seems as value, looking on scores
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June 17, 2022, 03:14:09 PM
I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.
Swiatek is overwhelming favorite for the title and odds of 2.5 sound almost too good to be true. I guess it is because she never had any significant results on grass but this time i believe it is a case of her being young and exploding just this year rather then her being bad on grass. She looked miles above all competition in last couple of tournaments and I expect her to continue in same fashion.

Not even gonna comment Serena, I don't see her as legit contender against anybody who can make her move around the pitch.


I think currently no one in the women tennis world is even close to taking a set from Swiatek let alone winning the match against her. Some seriously unlucky day must happen that she gets knocked out . So for me this is an easy every much under games and her to win the tournament

On grass there is possibly one who could pose a bit of a threat, Beatriz Haddad Maia from
Brazil is going very strong ATM, After winning Nottingham both singles and doubles she is
through to the semi finals at the Birmingham Classic. She played twice today and won to
meet Halep the second seed, that will be interesting. I think she is one to watch for Wimbledon
and possibly meeting Swiatek.
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June 17, 2022, 01:24:24 PM
I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.
Swiatek is overwhelming favorite for the title and odds of 2.5 sound almost too good to be true. I guess it is because she never had any significant results on grass but this time i believe it is a case of her being young and exploding just this year rather then her being bad on grass. She looked miles above all competition in last couple of tournaments and I expect her to continue in same fashion.

Not even gonna comment Serena, I don't see her as legit contender against anybody who can make her move around the pitch.


I think currently no one in the women tennis world is even close to taking a set from Swiatek let alone winning the match against her. Some seriously unlucky day must happen that she gets knocked out . So for me this is an easy every much under games and her to win the tournament
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June 17, 2022, 12:10:00 PM
I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.
Swiatek is overwhelming favorite for the title and odds of 2.5 sound almost too good to be true. I guess it is because she never had any significant results on grass but this time i believe it is a case of her being young and exploding just this year rather then her being bad on grass. She looked miles above all competition in last couple of tournaments and I expect her to continue in same fashion.

Not even gonna comment Serena, I don't see her as legit contender against anybody who can make her move around the pitch.
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June 17, 2022, 07:22:36 AM
I notice that all the talk is on the men's side... is that because everyone knows that Swiatek will win the women's?  Grin

It seems she's listed at around 2.5...

TBH, did not consider it, but seems as better value than Djokovic @1.83
she is playing in life-best form, and yeah, it is harder to win in a row, when you play best-of-3, because there is no room for mistake, one set down, and you are under pressure, but eventually she should win it

Serena is playing for media attention, it is hard to see her in second week, at this point

I can't really see anyone beating Swiatek, my concern was more about her fitness. I think she's had a shoulder injury recently, and I'm wary of betting on her to make it through 7 matches in a fortnight without that injury flaring up. If she stays fit, yes, the 2.5 looks good.

Don't know what to think about Serena, in a way it's similar to the situation Nadal has been in a few times this year, he basically won the French Open on one leg, simply because "It's Nadal at Roland Garros"... a similar argument could be advanced for "It's Serena at Wimbledon" (although her record doesn't quite compare with Nadal's absurd dominance in France).
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