^Funny how life sometimes writes such incredible stories. Really great coincidence that Alacaraz managed to get into top 10 on the same day and on the same tournament as Rafael Nadal.
Did not watch him against Tsitsipas but it seems like it was interesting match. He should have an easy time against De Minaur today since I don't think Aussie has the weapons to make it though on clay.
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Emma Raducanu has won back to back matches for the first time in a while, in her first proper tournament on clay, and has now reached the quarter final stage, where she will play... Swiatek!
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
If you really think she could win 6-0 and 6-0, it might be worth looking up a bet there. I think you'll be pretty rich if that actually happens. 6-0, 6-0 are results that you rarely see. or you must have placed the number 1 against a qualification for example. But even then, a game is usually won. Or there must be an injury.
Raducanu has strong shots and I feel like she will get few games for sure but probably not gonna cover handicap. This is first season she even plays on clay so Swiatek is enormous favorite. Perfect match to skip, better opportunities elsewhere.
Yes, I will be skipping it. Swiatek is the overwhelming favourite, but I think the betting odds are not overwhelming enough in her favour... it is pretty pointless betting on Swiatek. I do think 6-0 6-0 is a genuine possibility, but whilst it could happen, I agree it's not the most likely result, so won't be betting on it.
Thats 21 wins in a row for Swiatek, you would have to bet with handicap on her really.
Found this on Instagram this morning, thats remarkable!
We watched the match last night, Tsitsipas v Alcaraz, what a great Tennis spectacle
it was, Alcaraz used his "drop shot" skill to his advantage, for me it was the most notable
play of the match.
Tsitsipas lost the cool, tried to hit Alcaraz with the ball after losing the first set, went
off court twice and got 2 time penalties, insulted the chair umpire ...and lost the match.
Great watch!
grand slam tournaments don't fall under ATP but they fall under ITF. ITF has the power to take the tournament from All england club and place it in some other country if they choose so. ATP has the power to not acknowledge points from grand slam if they don't follow general rules. That will not happen unfortunately, since grand slams are very important and they get larger then life status but we could see a pissing contest between all the parties.
I'd agree that it won't stop here. The ATP agreement with Wimbledon is that player entry is based solely on ranking. I would imagine that this is stipulated explicitly in a formal, legal contract. Which would make Wimbledon in violation of contract... so I could certainly see this going to court (bad pun intended). And this is quite apart from the fact that discrimination based on nationality is illegal anyway.
I do think the eventual outcome is Wimbledon backing down and letting them play, whilst achieving their PR aim of doing everything they could to stop Russians playing.
What is worse is that should not be their decision to make. ATP is the covering organisation and they are the entity that gives out bans and similar stuff to players. ATP suspended Russia from Davis cup and Fed cup but allowed their players to compete. Can you imagine Quatar banning some team from world cup without FIFA doing it? This is just posturing to see how much tournament owners can get away with.
Yep, agreed. As far as I know, there are no individual bans for Russians to work in England. So, if a ball boy can be Russian and a bus driver can be Russian, I really don't understand why a tennis player can't be Russian as well.
After all - as you said - ATP is the governing body. Wimbledon should be following ATP's rules and I hope they won't get away with this.
The Wimbledon tournament is not organized by the ATP but by the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet club, or abbreviated All England Club and they are a private members' club.
This means that the ATP has no influence on Wimbledon organizers and can't prevent them from making their own decisions regarding the tennis tournament.
I think it is obvious that the All England Club is under a lot of pressure from the British government and that I can't make a different decision.
I'm sorry for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players, but this is a political decision and I do not believe it will change.
The Wimbledon tournament is not organized by the ATP but by the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet club, or abbreviated All England Club and they are a private members' club.
This means that the ATP has no influence on Wimbledon organizers and can't prevent them from making their own decisions regarding the tennis tournament.
I think it is obvious that the All England Club is under a lot of pressure from the British government and that I can't make a different decision.
I'm sorry for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players, but this is a political decision and I do not believe it will change.
This means that the ATP has no influence on Wimbledon organizers and can't prevent them from making their own decisions regarding the tennis tournament.
I think it is obvious that the All England Club is under a lot of pressure from the British government and that I can't make a different decision.
I'm sorry for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players, but this is a political decision and I do not believe it will change.
Yeah, I know - that's why I used 'should' instead of 'must'.
What I meant to say is that if we have a governing organization (which we do, both ATP and WTA are governing tennis organizations), the tournaments should follow some guidelines.
ATP and WTA recommended that the players participate under neutral flags and I really don't see what Wimbledon plans to accomplish with banning individuals from participating in the tournament.
It is discriminatory and unnecessary, both for sport and in general.
What is worse is that should not be their decision to make. ATP is the covering organisation and they are the entity that gives out bans and similar stuff to players. ATP suspended Russia from Davis cup and Fed cup but allowed their players to compete. Can you imagine Quatar banning some team from world cup without FIFA doing it? This is just posturing to see how much tournament owners can get away with.
Yep, agreed. As far as I know, there are no individual bans for Russians to work in England. So, if a ball boy can be Russian and a bus driver can be Russian, I really don't understand why a tennis player can't be Russian as well.
After all - as you said - ATP is the governing body. Wimbledon should be following ATP's rules and I hope they won't get away with this.
The Wimbledon tournament is not organized by the ATP but by the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet club, or abbreviated All England Club and they are a private members' club.
This means that the ATP has no influence on Wimbledon organizers and can't prevent them from making their own decisions regarding the tennis tournament.
I think it is obvious that the All England Club is under a lot of pressure from the British government and that I can't make a different decision.
I'm sorry for Medvedev and other Russian and Belarusian tennis players, but this is a political decision and I do not believe it will change.
What is worse is that should not be their decision to make. ATP is the covering organisation and they are the entity that gives out bans and similar stuff to players. ATP suspended Russia from Davis cup and Fed cup but allowed their players to compete. Can you imagine Quatar banning some team from world cup without FIFA doing it? This is just posturing to see how much tournament owners can get away with.
Yep, agreed. As far as I know, there are no individual bans for Russians to work in England. So, if a ball boy can be Russian and a bus driver can be Russian, I really don't understand why a tennis player can't be Russian as well.
After all - as you said - ATP is the governing body. Wimbledon should be following ATP's rules and I hope they won't get away with this.
I thought they would allow Russian athletes to take part as independents, and while it would yet be a controversial decision but at least Russian player’s would have been able to participate. Also Djokovic should not have have commented on this as he’s already facing scrutiny due to his vaccination stand, and I wonder if he’ll face any punishment for his comments.
I was a little bit surprised by the move of Wimbledom as they are the first organisator that is not allowing Russian athletes to compete. In all the other sports (gymnastics,...) all Russian athletes can participate but under a neutral flag. Personally, I find it a bridge too far to ban the players that come from Russia...
Emma Raducanu has won back to back matches for the first time in a while, in her first proper tournament on clay, and has now reached the quarter final stage, where she will play... Swiatek!
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
If you really think she could win 6-0 and 6-0, it might be worth looking up a bet there. I think you'll be pretty rich if that actually happens. 6-0, 6-0 are results that you rarely see. or you must have placed the number 1 against a qualification for example. But even then, a game is usually won. Or there must be an injury.
Raducanu has strong shots and I feel like she will get few games for sure but probably not gonna cover handicap. This is first season she even plays on clay so Swiatek is enormous favorite. Perfect match to skip, better opportunities elsewhere.
Yes, I will be skipping it. Swiatek is the overwhelming favourite, but I think the betting odds are not overwhelming enough in her favour... it is pretty pointless betting on Swiatek. I do think 6-0 6-0 is a genuine possibility, but whilst it could happen, I agree it's not the most likely result, so won't be betting on it.
I thought they would allow Russian athletes to take part as independents, and while it would yet be a controversial decision but at least Russian player’s would have been able to participate. Also Djokovic should not have have commented on this as he’s already facing scrutiny due to his vaccination stand, and I wonder if he’ll face any punishment for his comments.
I was a little bit surprised by the move of Wimbledom as they are the first organisator that is not allowing Russian athletes to compete. In all the other sports (gymnastics,...) all Russian athletes can participate but under a neutral flag. Personally, I find it a bridge too far to ban the players that come from Russia...
I agree, this is sports and should not be involving politics. And it's unfair for those Russian athletes as obviously, they have nothing to do wit the war and yet they are the one who suffers from it.
On Barcelona Open, good match for me will be
FAA vs Tiafoe - I will go with FAA here, -2.5.
Alcaraz vs Munar, Alcaraz -4.5.
I thought they would allow Russian athletes to take part as independents, and while it would yet be a controversial decision but at least Russian player’s would have been able to participate. Also Djokovic should not have have commented on this as he’s already facing scrutiny due to his vaccination stand, and I wonder if he’ll face any punishment for his comments.
I was a little bit surprised by the move of Wimbledom as they are the first organisator that is not allowing Russian athletes to compete. In all the other sports (gymnastics,...) all Russian athletes can participate but under a neutral flag. Personally, I find it a bridge too far to ban the players that come from Russia...
Anyone watching Serbia Open? Djokovic is really struggling a lot on clay and at home court,he was two times really close to losing against his own countryman. But with this two hard wins i think he can win the tournament with Thiem getting knocked out aswell
Eventually won his match against Kecmanovic, losing the first set, so he marches on the semis and will face Karen Khachanov.
Same with Tsitsipas on Barcelona, the match was suspended, won the first game, easy but have a hard time on the second set, and then come back strong in the 3rd set to defeat Ivashka.
Anyone watching Serbia Open? Djokovic is really struggling a lot on clay and at home court,he was two times really close to losing against his own countryman. But with this two hard wins i think he can win the tournament with Thiem getting knocked out aswell
Emma Raducanu has won back to back matches for the first time in a while, in her first proper tournament on clay, and has now reached the quarter final stage, where she will play... Swiatek!
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
If you really think she could win 6-0 and 6-0, it might be worth looking up a bet there. I think you'll be pretty rich if that actually happens. 6-0, 6-0 are results that you rarely see. or you must have placed the number 1 against a qualification for example. But even then, a game is usually won. Or there must be an injury.
Raducanu has strong shots and I feel like she will get few games for sure but probably not gonna cover handicap. This is first season she even plays on clay so Swiatek is enormous favorite. Perfect match to skip, better opportunities elsewhere.
Djokovic is very critical that Russians and Russians are banned from the upcoming tournament in England, at Wimbledon. But who is he to stand up for that? Precisely the player who refused to be vaccinated and who through all sorts of detours still tried to participate in a certain tournament while he knew very well that it was simply not allowed. It will be a hassle that players from Russia are not admitted, because they always have very strong delegations in general.
Emma Raducanu has won back to back matches for the first time in a while, in her first proper tournament on clay, and has now reached the quarter final stage, where she will play... Swiatek!
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
If you really think she could win 6-0 and 6-0, it might be worth looking up a bet there. I think you'll be pretty rich if that actually happens. 6-0, 6-0 are results that you rarely see. or you must have placed the number 1 against a qualification for example. But even then, a game is usually won. Or there must be an injury.
Emma Raducanu has won back to back matches for the first time in a while, in her first proper tournament on clay, and has now reached the quarter final stage, where she will play... Swiatek!
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.
Perhaps just the nerves, you have to think that he is still a kid, just 18 years, and having a good time of his life. And he is playing for the crowd, his first return to Spanish soil so imagine the feeling. The weather as well, windy, cold and wet conditions.
But he did recovered in the 3rd, so he advances and will be facing his fellow Spaniard next, J. Munar.
Both of my initial handicap bets are covered.
But he did recovered in the 3rd, so he advances and will be facing his fellow Spaniard next, J. Munar.
Both of my initial handicap bets are covered.
the second set played by the Spanish was disastrous from all points of view, indeed unwatchable.
Anyone who has bet an "easy" 2-0 win was really surprised to see him play ...
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/tennis-in-meltdown-after-wimbledon-breaks-rules-to-ban-russia/news-story/3823c84f7202efcaf2afc1f24b6fda08
Politics continues to create divisions even in sport.
As already discussed yesterday, there was a ban on Russian and Belarusian players in Wimbledon Tournament.
Today's news is Djokovic's that doesn't agree with this ban.
Another "contrary" opinion come from australian player Millmann
(who suggested donating the Wimbledon prize pool to the Ukrainian cause rather than banning the participation of players based on their nationality).
I don't know about you, but excluding someone regardless of their actions is always a kind of defeat for everyone
Thats a good suggestioon by Millman regarding the prize fund, not sure it would happen
though. TBH I think banning Russian and Belarussian players is a bit over the top, they
are individual sports people who dont actually play for their countries. I also think
most of the russian players have voiced their comdemnation of the war to some degree.
As an aside I was surprised to see at the prize giving ceremony at Monte Carlo they played
the national anthems of the winning players, I think its the nly tournament to do that?
I thought they would allow Russian athletes to take part as independents, and while it would yet be a controversial decision but at least Russian player’s would have been able to participate. Also Djokovic should not have have commented on this as he’s already facing scrutiny due to his vaccination stand, and I wonder if he’ll face any punishment for his comments.
An article in Italian newspaper referred to the "alleged embarrassment of the Windsor family in having Russian athlete to be rewarded". Actually this is the first tournament that made this kind of decision.
I don't think there will be any consequences for Djokovic's statements.
certainly an uncomfortable opinion (the same also in his Country) but there is no reason for a sanction.
And then after the vaccine issue, he has already been sanctioned...
Perhaps just the nerves, you have to think that he is still a kid, just 18 years, and having a good time of his life. And he is playing for the crowd, his first return to Spanish soil so imagine the feeling. The weather as well, windy, cold and wet conditions.
But he did recovered in the 3rd, so he advances and will be facing his fellow Spaniard next, J. Munar.
Both of my initial handicap bets are covered.
But he did recovered in the 3rd, so he advances and will be facing his fellow Spaniard next, J. Munar.
Both of my initial handicap bets are covered.
the second set played by the Spanish was disastrous from all points of view, indeed unwatchable.
Anyone who has bet an "easy" 2-0 win was really surprised to see him play ...
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/tennis-in-meltdown-after-wimbledon-breaks-rules-to-ban-russia/news-story/3823c84f7202efcaf2afc1f24b6fda08
Politics continues to create divisions even in sport.
As already discussed yesterday, there was a ban on Russian and Belarusian players in Wimbledon Tournament.
Today's news is Djokovic's that doesn't agree with this ban.
Another "contrary" opinion come from australian player Millmann
(who suggested donating the Wimbledon prize pool to the Ukrainian cause rather than banning the participation of players based on their nationality).
I don't know about you, but excluding someone regardless of their actions is always a kind of defeat for everyone
I thought they would allow Russian athletes to take part as independents, and while it would yet be a controversial decision but at least Russian player’s would have been able to participate. Also Djokovic should not have have commented on this as he’s already facing scrutiny due to his vaccination stand, and I wonder if he’ll face any punishment for his comments.
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