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April 26, 2022, 10:56:44 AM

If it's an illness that he doesn't want to talk about, and which is sapping his strength even some considerable time after he has recovered, then it sounds very much like Covid. I can imagine that if he caught it, given his well-publicised lack of vaccination and all the chaos around his deportation from Australia, then he would be extremely reluctant to admit he'd caught it. IIRC he did catch Covid quite early on in the pandemic, but of course there is nothing to stop someone catching it twice, especially with the later variants.

The problems earlier in his career that sapped his energy were dietary, weren't they? I think it was the switch to a highly-restrictive and gluten-free diet that transformed him from being a good player into a world-beating superman. I don't think his current issues could relate to that.

Of course the problem could be simply that after all his time off, he's a bit rusty and not fully match-fit... and just doesn't want to admit it.

It seems to me that Djokovic is just making excuses. Everybody would have expected that he would have won but he lost and as you mention, he doesn't has played a lot of matches so he is missing some match rhythm.
He is indeed gluten intolerant but already made the switch to the diet a long time ago.
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April 26, 2022, 07:43:34 AM
Djoković gave a really strange interview after the match. He is sort off ill, he has some disease that came back and sap his strength. It is not covid but he does not want to talk about it. Seems like he had problems with that disease at the begging of the career and then nothing until now.

If it's an illness that he doesn't want to talk about, and which is sapping his strength even some considerable time after he has recovered, then it sounds very much like Covid. I can imagine that if he caught it, given his well-publicised lack of vaccination and all the chaos around his deportation from Australia, then he would be extremely reluctant to admit he'd caught it. IIRC he did catch Covid quite early on in the pandemic, but of course there is nothing to stop someone catching it twice, especially with the later variants.

The problems earlier in his career that sapped his energy were dietary, weren't they? I think it was the switch to a highly-restrictive and gluten-free diet that transformed him from being a good player into a world-beating superman. I don't think his current issues could relate to that.

Of course the problem could be simply that after all his time off, he's a bit rusty and not fully match-fit... and just doesn't want to admit it.
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April 26, 2022, 06:43:36 AM
There are still a few tournaments to play before Roland Garros, currently playing are Estoril,
Portugal and Munich, Germany but I done see him listed as participating in either. After these
there is Madrid, Rome both are ATP1000 tournaments and then Geneva.

Interestingly AFAIK Alcaraz doesnt appear in either Estoril or Munich, I would say his next appearance
will be Madrid?
Top players usually skip these smaller tournaments and just play masters before grand slam. More than enough tennis for anybody capable of passing few rounds. You can see top players on these smaller tournaments only when they are lacking match fitness and chasing as much as possible competitive games before the RG. Like Thiem this week.
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April 26, 2022, 01:41:41 AM
There are still a few tournaments to play before Roland Garros, currently playing are Estoril,
Portugal and Munich, Germany but I done see him listed as participating in either. After these
there is Madrid, Rome both are ATP1000 tournaments and then Geneva.

Interestingly AFAIK Alcaraz doesnt appear in either Estoril or Munich, I would say his next appearance
will be Madrid?
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April 25, 2022, 02:12:24 PM
We have to admit that Djokovic is not the same recently many gamblers lost their bets because of him he showed really poor performance on the first and last sets he lost at least a set in all his games in belgrad atp which is unusual for him i hope he get better soon i think he can give more to tennis.

We need to understand that Djokovic has played only a few matches this year and that he is not completely ready yet.
Due to the vaccination situation, Covid Đoković could not play in many tournaments, and therefore he is not at the right level yet.
Probably everything that happened in Australia psychologically affected him as well.
I expect his level of play to rise slowly and he will be fully ready for the GS in Paris.

This tournament would have been important for Djokovic as its a home tournament
but I would say his sights are set on Roland Garros, If he gets some more matches
under him he will be fairly close to fighting fit.

The last Serbia open is a big stress reliever and it has helped him test his physical fitness. Now until the Roland Garros he can be the no.1 player, after which based on some point calculation there is possible chances of rank variation based on match win/losing. Novak Djokovic not playing a lot of tournaments due to the vaccination has affected his play. Hope he'll give a big comeback.
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April 25, 2022, 07:14:52 AM
We have to admit that Djokovic is not the same recently many gamblers lost their bets because of him he showed really poor performance on the first and last sets he lost at least a set in all his games in belgrad atp which is unusual for him i hope he get better soon i think he can give more to tennis.

We need to understand that Djokovic has played only a few matches this year and that he is not completely ready yet.
Due to the vaccination situation, Covid Đoković could not play in many tournaments, and therefore he is not at the right level yet.
Probably everything that happened in Australia psychologically affected him as well.
I expect his level of play to rise slowly and he will be fully ready for the GS in Paris.

This tournament would have been important for Djokovic as its a home tournament
but I would say his sights are set on Roland Garros, If he gets some more matches
under him he will be fairly close to fighting fit.



Great win by Alcaraz having played his semi final on the same day. I have to say
though de Minaur gave a great account of himself to come fairly close in the semi.
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April 25, 2022, 04:27:36 AM
We have to admit that Djokovic is not the same recently many gamblers lost their bets because of him he showed really poor performance on the first and last sets he lost at least a set in all his games in belgrad atp which is unusual for him i hope he get better soon i think he can give more to tennis.

We need to understand that Djokovic has played only a few matches this year and that he is not completely ready yet.
Due to the vaccination situation, Covid Đoković could not play in many tournaments, and therefore he is not at the right level yet.
Probably everything that happened in Australia psychologically affected him as well.
I expect his level of play to rise slowly and he will be fully ready for the GS in Paris.
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April 24, 2022, 11:28:27 PM
Although Alcaraz won, he didn't cover the handicap so my parlay got destroyed.

Rublev defeating Djokovic in Belgrade, wow, I thought that Djokovic will win this game in 2 sets.  But Rublev plays solid and it so happen that Djokovic win the tie break in the 2nd set. But then Rublev destroys him 6-0 in the final set.
Djoković gave a really strange interview after the match. He is sort off ill, he has some disease that came back and sap his strength. It is not covid but he does not want to talk about it. Seems like he had problems with that disease at the begging of the career and then nothing until now.

What do you mean Alcaraz did not cover the handicap? He won 6:3 6:2 in the final, meaning +6.5 got covered. i don't think anybody even offered something over 4.5.

Maybe you have missed my previous post about my bet on Alcaraz:

Rublev though has an easy game against Fognini. I have a parlay with him and Alcaraz at handicap but the Alcaraz vs De Minaur has been suspended.

So it was a bet not on finals but on semis, him against De Minaur and it's obvious that he didn't cover it because it was a very close match.


As for Djokovic case, I thought that he has somewhat recovered mentality as I have said. But nah, the way he lost that final set strange, and he said that he has run out of gas.

But we should give credit to Rublev though, he has been hot early this year.
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April 24, 2022, 11:20:45 PM
~snip
Djoković gave a really strange interview after the match. He is sort off ill, he has some disease that came back and sap his strength. It is not covid but he does not want to talk about it. Seems like he had problems with that disease at the begging of the career and then nothing until now.


it could be a Vajda missing disease
he is probably the best coach in the world, and Djoko decided to let him go, it will be hard to get back on a track without him

did not watch the match, but this is second lose in a row, in third set, and with humiliating result (1:6 Fokina, 0:6 Rublev), does not look as just strength issue, he had same three set match yesterday, and played strong in third
will be interesting to see what will happen next

Yeah, it was really strange on how this year, he started so poorly, is father time has finally caught up with him? Or he is suffering from disease or injury that he is not telling the public. He seems to be not in shape I speculate that it could be a combination of factors including his mental health as well because that's one aspect of his game. But if he lose focus in a game, every thing crumbles.
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April 24, 2022, 06:31:34 PM
We have to admit that Djokovic is not the same recently many gamblers lost their bets because of him he showed really poor performance on the first and last sets he lost at least a set in all his games in belgrad atp which is unusual for him i hope he get better soon i think he can give more to tennis.
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April 24, 2022, 03:35:49 PM
~snip
Djoković gave a really strange interview after the match. He is sort off ill, he has some disease that came back and sap his strength. It is not covid but he does not want to talk about it. Seems like he had problems with that disease at the begging of the career and then nothing until now.


it could be a Vajda missing disease
he is probably the best coach in the world, and Djoko decided to let him go, it will be hard to get back on a track without him

did not watch the match, but this is second lose in a row, in third set, and with humiliating result (1:6 Fokina, 0:6 Rublev), does not look as just strength issue, he had same three set match yesterday, and played strong in third
will be interesting to see what will happen next
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April 24, 2022, 03:26:50 PM
Although Alcaraz won, he didn't cover the handicap so my parlay got destroyed.

Rublev defeating Djokovic in Belgrade, wow, I thought that Djokovic will win this game in 2 sets.  But Rublev plays solid and it so happen that Djokovic win the tie break in the 2nd set. But then Rublev destroys him 6-0 in the final set.
Djoković gave a really strange interview after the match. He is sort off ill, he has some disease that came back and sap his strength. It is not covid but he does not want to talk about it. Seems like he had problems with that disease at the begging of the career and then nothing until now.

What do you mean Alcaraz did not cover the handicap? He won 6:3 6:2 in the final, meaning +6.5 got covered. i don't think anybody even offered something over 4.5.
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April 24, 2022, 12:03:16 PM
Although Alcaraz won, he didn't cover the handicap so my parlay got destroyed.

Rublev defeating Djokovic in Belgrade, wow, I thought that Djokovic will win this game in 2 sets.  But Rublev plays solid and it so happen that Djokovic win the tie break in the 2nd set. But then Rublev destroys him 6-0 in the final set.
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April 23, 2022, 07:22:02 PM
^ When I check the scores, I'm not surprised by it, as you have said, Djokovic seems to be doing this intentionally to give his opponents some confident and they destroys them in the next two sets.

So it's another rain delayed match, at least it is on the first set and the score for Alcaraz vs De Minaur is 2-2, same with Schwartzman vs Pablo Carreno-Busta. Rooting for Alcaraz to go to the finals against Carreno-Busta.
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April 23, 2022, 05:27:44 PM
^Funny how life sometimes writes such incredible stories. Really great coincidence that Alacaraz managed to get into top 10 on the same day and on the same tournament as Rafael Nadal.
~snip

he will be no.1 in the future, seems that he is concentrated on tennis, not like all those other contenders out of top3 that play hot/cold, he seems to be able to connect wins in a row
of course, it all can turnaround fast, as it was for Medvedev and Nadal this season, both seemed that will take no.1 at some point this year, and do not play at the moment

will be interesting final in Belgrade between Rublev and Djokovic

It seems Djokovic has recovered mentally already. I thought that he will be upset after losing the first set against, Khachanov, but the usual, he seems to be really losing the first set and then storm back to win the last 2.

Rublev though has an easy game against Fognini. I have a parlay with him and Alcaraz at handicap but the Alcaraz vs De Minaur has been suspended.
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April 23, 2022, 03:48:50 PM
Emma Raducanu has won back to back matches for the first time in a while, in her first proper tournament on clay, and has now reached the quarter final stage, where she will play... Swiatek!

I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.


If you really think she could win 6-0 and 6-0, it might be worth looking up a bet there. I think you'll be pretty rich if that actually happens. 6-0, 6-0 are results that you rarely see. or you must have placed the number 1 against a qualification for example. But even then, a game is usually won. Or there must be an injury.
Nobody losses 6:0 6:0 while injured. Even if you have minor injury you will forfeit rather than stand on turf embarrassing yourself and risking even more serious injury.

Raducanu has strong shots and I feel like she will get few games for sure but probably not gonna cover handicap. This is first season she even plays on clay so Swiatek is enormous favorite. Perfect match to skip, better opportunities elsewhere.

Yes, I will be skipping it. Swiatek is the overwhelming favourite, but I think the betting odds are not overwhelming enough in her favour... it is pretty pointless betting on Swiatek. I do think 6-0 6-0 is a genuine possibility, but whilst it could happen, I agree it's not the most likely result, so won't be betting on it.

Thats 21 wins in a row for Swiatek, you would have to bet with handicap on her really.





Found this on Instagram this morning, thats remarkable!

We watched the match last night, Tsitsipas v Alcaraz, what a great Tennis spectacle
it was, Alcaraz used his "drop shot" skill to his advantage, for me it was the most notable
play of the match.

Tsitsipas lost the cool, tried to hit Alcaraz with the ball after losing the first set, went
off court twice and got 2 time penalties, insulted the chair umpire ...and lost the match.
Great watch!


Swiatek is dominating in women tennis and didnt see a huge winning streak there in a long time honestly,finally someone showing good tennis for some time.

Also Tsitsipas was probobly tired in this match a little because he won a tournament last week. Also Alcaraz is playing some really good tennis and he is already in top 10 that is some huge news honestly.
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April 23, 2022, 02:18:16 PM
Emma Raducanu has won back to back matches for the first time in a while, in her first proper tournament on clay, and has now reached the quarter final stage, where she will play... Swiatek!

I'm English so of course want Raducanu to win, but it seems hugely improbable, this one looks like it could easily end up with Swiatek winning 6-0 6-0.


If you really think she could win 6-0 and 6-0, it might be worth looking up a bet there. I think you'll be pretty rich if that actually happens. 6-0, 6-0 are results that you rarely see. or you must have placed the number 1 against a qualification for example. But even then, a game is usually won. Or there must be an injury.
Nobody losses 6:0 6:0 while injured. Even if you have minor injury you will forfeit rather than stand on turf embarrassing yourself and risking even more serious injury.

Raducanu has strong shots and I feel like she will get few games for sure but probably not gonna cover handicap. This is first season she even plays on clay so Swiatek is enormous favorite. Perfect match to skip, better opportunities elsewhere.

Yes, I will be skipping it. Swiatek is the overwhelming favourite, but I think the betting odds are not overwhelming enough in her favour... it is pretty pointless betting on Swiatek. I do think 6-0 6-0 is a genuine possibility, but whilst it could happen, I agree it's not the most likely result, so won't be betting on it.

I watched most of this match, and was quite surprised at how it played out. The first set, Swiatek was quite dominant on serve, but the second set was very finely-balanced, and the two players looked like equals. Swiatek took 3/4 break points in the match, Raducanu only 1/5... but Raducanu had her chances in that second set, and it could quite easily have gone to three. That's one of the hardest matches Swiatek has had for a while.
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April 23, 2022, 12:52:04 PM
^Funny how life sometimes writes such incredible stories. Really great coincidence that Alacaraz managed to get into top 10 on the same day and on the same tournament as Rafael Nadal.
~snip

he will be no.1 in the future, seems that he is concentrated on tennis, not like all those other contenders out of top3 that play hot/cold, he seems to be able to connect wins in a row
of course, it all can turnaround fast, as it was for Medvedev and Nadal this season, both seemed that will take no.1 at some point this year, and do not play at the moment

will be interesting final in Belgrade between Rublev and Djokovic
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April 23, 2022, 08:19:32 AM
grand slam tournaments don't fall under ATP but they fall under ITF. ITF has the power to take the tournament from All england club and place it in some other country if they choose so. ATP has the power to not acknowledge points from grand slam if they don't follow general rules. That will not happen unfortunately, since grand slams are very important and they get larger then life status but we could see a pissing contest between all the parties.

I'd agree that it won't stop here. The ATP agreement with Wimbledon is that player entry is based solely on ranking. I would imagine that this is stipulated explicitly in a formal, legal contract. Which would make Wimbledon in violation of contract... so I could certainly see this going to court (bad pun intended). And this is quite apart from the fact that discrimination based on nationality is illegal anyway.

I do think the eventual outcome is Wimbledon backing down and letting them play, whilst achieving their PR aim of doing everything they could to stop Russians playing.


I guess this decision of the All England club came about due to the great political pressure of the British government.
Therefore, I do not think that this situation will be resolved quickly and easily.
I think it is possible that we will look at the same scenario again as in Australia when Djokovic tried to challenge in court the decision of the Australian government to ban him from entering the country and participating in the tournament.
Lately, too much has been decided about tennis in the courts, instead in a playing field, what is not good for tennis and tennis fans.
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April 23, 2022, 05:43:58 AM
Really great coincidence that Alacaraz managed to get into top 10 on the same day and on the same tournament as Rafael Nadal.

He's clearly destined for the very top, and the comparisons with Nadal will no doubt continue for his whole career.
He may be young, but if he's planning on matching Nadal's ludicrous record of 13 French Open wins, then Alcaraz is running out of time already... he needs to win it this year, or he's in trouble! Grin

Seriously though, fantastic player. We've had so many "next big thing" players coming through over the years, but no-one who ever really looked like they could be the next Nadal/Federer/Djokovic... but Alcaraz really does look like the real thing.
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