Tennis League All Thread - page 290.

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 04, 2022, 02:34:06 PM

Quote from: aoluain on April 04, 2022, 01:38:54 PM

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The key going forward is to manage the body and stay injury free. As an 18
year old his physique is impressive but it will be important for him not to get burnt
out so early in his career, there is many years ahead and I would imagine it would
be prudent to not play every top tournament so early in the career so hopefully his
team will be able to put his welfare ahead of $'s and ranking.

it's a very interesting talking point but in fact he is not only a top player, or a kind of thoroughbred. He seems to be predestined, we are talking and admiring his results from a while.
I think that the team behind him is certainly able to manage commitments and avoid a whole series of risks.
These "next gen" players have behind a "corporate" organization.
I have seen something similar here in Italy with the impressive growth of Sinner...

The latest update is IGA SWIatek rises to no 1. The new WTA ranking are released yesterday and it is now official. She has ascended to the No 1 on WTA ranking making an achievement in two ways.
1: As a first player from Poland
2: Youngest to be born in 2000s to reach No 1 in either ATP or WTA ranking association

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Quote from: aoluain on April 04, 2022, 01:38:54 PM

^
The key going forward is to manage the body and stay injury free. As an 18
year old his physique is impressive but it will be important for him not to get burnt
out so early in his career, there is many years ahead and I would imagine it would
be prudent to not play every top tournament so early in the career so hopefully his
team will be able to put his welfare ahead of $'s and ranking.

it's a very interesting talking point but in fact he is not only a top player, or a kind of thoroughbred. He seems to be predestined, we are talking and admiring his results from a while.
I think that the team behind him is certainly able to manage commitments and avoid a whole series of risks.
These "next gen" players have behind a "corporate" organization.
I have seen something similar here in Italy with the impressive growth of Sinner...

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^
The key going forward is to manage the body and stay injury free. As an 18
year old his physique is impressive but it will be important for him not to get burnt
out so early in his career, there is many years ahead and I would imagine it would
be prudent to not play every top tournament so early in the career so hopefully his
team will be able to put his welfare ahead of $'s and ranking.

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Big things to come in the future from Alcaraz! He's capable of playing a physical game and has great technique as well! Just hope he can stay injury free. Few years ago, Hyeon Chung was the hottest prospect and he won the next gen finals as well like Alcaraz, but just couldn't shake off injuries and now he's become obscure. Hopefully, not the same case with Alcaraz.

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Alcaraz won Miami, and proved his value, compared to Ruud at least, although Ruud is above on the list
will be interesting to see him on clay, that should be a "place to go" for Spanish players, but Alcaraz does not seem as typical Spanish clay player

congrats, and he looks as future no.1

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Quote from: aoluain on April 03, 2022, 04:35:28 PM

Quote from: bitbollo on April 03, 2022, 02:05:33 PM

Alcaraz has just win Miami Tournament! 2 set vs 0!
7-5 6-4
it was not easy on first set but at the end he is collecting a well deserved title.
It was not really hard to bet on him since the other match they have played has been clearly win by the Spanish.

Quote from: bitbollo on April 02, 2022, 09:03:09 AM

The odds offered on Alcaraz winner against Ruud are not high, but the Spanish seems to be the favorite.
There is only one precedent between the two players.
About a year ago they played a game that ended with Alcaraz victory (6-2 6-4) even if it was another surface much more suited to his playing characteristics.

Personally I will try to play a bet during the "live" match hoping for a 10% more odds.
It is a risk (because I could also get 10% less) but it is worth it to maximize the final result.

Today the women tournament ends with the match between Osaka and Swiatek!
I have my idea of how the match will end, but I keep it to myself Wink

It was a great win by him, to get broken early in the 1st set and to break back later
and go on to win the set. The 2nd one was easier for him, breaking Ruud's first game
and it was not too much trouble.

The interesting thing ^{well, one of them anyway} was his calmness to serve out for the match,
it was like pure belief he was going to win.

All our bets were fulfilled, I'm sure Trofo picked up better odds on Alcaraz early in the 1st set
after he went 0-3 down!

Good win, yeah, he deserves this tournament, he has been playing solid like Swiatek. Just like what he did against Tsitisipas, down in the first set, was able to make a huge comeback. But this time, he was really calm and know what to do in the first set as he didn't want to and playing catch up again.

And the score was enough to hit the -3.5 handicap so I'm very a happy camper right now.

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Quote from: aoluain on April 03, 2022, 04:35:28 PM

All our bets were fulfilled, I'm sure Trofo picked up better odds on Alcaraz early in the 1st set
after he went 0-3 down!

I did not, i didn't even know he went 3:0 down. I was playing football with my buddies and tuned in at the beginning of second set.

Good thing I did not see it since I had no money left, I alredy made a bet with all spare cash I had on every bookie i have aaccount on. I would have just been nervous. Immediately booked a week for family in nearby 5 star resort too avoid loosing the extra cash in the next few days.

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 03, 2022, 02:05:33 PM

Alcaraz has just win Miami Tournament! 2 set vs 0!
7-5 6-4
it was not easy on first set but at the end he is collecting a well deserved title.
It was not really hard to bet on him since the other match they have played has been clearly win by the Spanish.

Quote from: bitbollo on April 02, 2022, 09:03:09 AM

The odds offered on Alcaraz winner against Ruud are not high, but the Spanish seems to be the favorite.
There is only one precedent between the two players.
About a year ago they played a game that ended with Alcaraz victory (6-2 6-4) even if it was another surface much more suited to his playing characteristics.

Personally I will try to play a bet during the "live" match hoping for a 10% more odds.
It is a risk (because I could also get 10% less) but it is worth it to maximize the final result.

Today the women tournament ends with the match between Osaka and Swiatek!
I have my idea of how the match will end, but I keep it to myself Wink

It was a great win by him, to get broken early in the 1st set and to break back later
and go on to win the set. The 2nd one was easier for him, breaking Ruud's first game
and it was not too much trouble.

The interesting thing ^{well, one of them anyway} was his calmness to serve out for the match,
it was like pure belief he was going to win.

All our bets were fulfilled, I'm sure Trofo picked up better odds on Alcaraz early in the 1st set
after he went 0-3 down!

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Alcaraz has just win Miami Tournament! 2 set vs 0!
7-5 6-4
it was not easy on first set but at the end he is collecting a well deserved title.
It was not really hard to bet on him since the other match they have played has been clearly win by the Spanish.

Quote from: bitbollo on April 02, 2022, 09:03:09 AM

The odds offered on Alcaraz winner against Ruud are not high, but the Spanish seems to be the favorite.
There is only one precedent between the two players.
About a year ago they played a game that ended with Alcaraz victory (6-2 6-4) even if it was another surface much more suited to his playing characteristics.

Personally I will try to play a bet during the "live" match hoping for a 10% more odds.
It is a risk (because I could also get 10% less) but it is worth it to maximize the final result.

Today the women tournament ends with the match between Osaka and Swiatek!
I have my idea of how the match will end, but I keep it to myself Wink

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Quote from: Trofo on April 03, 2022, 11:00:45 AM

Clay is not his surface and that is why he choose to go for operation now. He usually plays just RG and one tournament before that. Hell, he played just 2 matches on clay in 2020 and lost both of them. 2021 was a bit better but record of 5/3 is nowhere near what top 5 players should have on clay.

He will try to get back into form for grass season where he has realistic chances for some points even though hard court is by far his best surface.

Yes, exactly. Now is the perfect time for him go for the operation. As he said, he's been playing with it for a while... so he could continue to play with it for longer if he wished, but instead he chose the most convenient time. Not only is he less likely to score ranking points and win tournaments on clay, but also he has fewer ranking points to defend at this point in the season. Makes perfect sense. And yes he won't be 100% if he does play in France.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 03, 2022, 07:22:55 AM

The main question now is whether Medvedev will be ready for the French Open?

He will not be ready and he does not even care. Maybe he will show in RG to collect the check and loose in first round. Clay is not his surface and that is why he choose to go for operation now. He usually plays just RG and one tournament before that. Hell, he played just 2 matches on clay in 2020 and lost both of them. 2021 was a bit better but record of 5/3 is nowhere near what top 5 players should have on clay.

He will try to get back into form for grass season where he has realistic chances for some points even though hard court is by far his best surface.

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''Russian world number two Daniil Medvedev's participation in the French Open has been put in doubt after he decided to have surgery that he says will sideline him for up to two months.''
'"The last months I have been playing with a small hernia," said Medvedev.
''Together with my team I have decided to have a small procedure done to fix the problem."
"I will likely be out for the next 1 - 2 months and will work hard to be back on court soon. Thanks for all the support.''

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/60966957

It seems that we have now received an answer as to why Medvedev has played some weaker tennis matches lately.
This surgery came at a very inconvenient time for Medvedev and will stop him from marching towards the top of world tennis.
Djokovic and Nadal are probably happiest with this news Cheesy

The main question now is whether Medvedev will be ready for the French Open?

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Quote from: aoluain on April 03, 2022, 01:55:58 AM

Quote from: bitbollo on April 02, 2022, 09:03:09 AM

The odds offered on Alcaraz winner against Ruud are not high, but the Spanish seems to be the favorite.
There is only one precedent between the two players.
About a year ago they played a game that ended with Alcaraz victory (6-2 6-4) even if it was another surface much more suited to his playing characteristics.

Personally I will try to play a bet during the "live" match hoping for a 10% more odds.
It is a risk (because I could also get 10% less) but it is worth it to maximize the final result.

Today the women tournament ends with the match between Osaka and Swiatek!
I have my idea of how the match will end, but I keep it to myself Wink

I have shifted my betting to both Rollbit and Nitrogensports instead of
Sportsbet but I have some Satoshi's still on Sportsbet which I cant transfer out,
I checked the odds on Alcaraz and they are not bad IMO, Alcaraz 1.34 v 3.35 Ruud
and I've put a "sure bet" of 0.2mBTC on Alcaraz to take 1 set also on Sportsbet.

Rollbit have Alcaraz to win @ 1.32 and Nitrogensports 1.30

I am gonna argue that clay surface suited Ruud even more than Alcaraz. Alcaraz has the game for all surfaces while Ruud had all his best results on clay. Alcaraz is enormous favorite to win this match in my opinion. I have ultra high stake bet on him to win @1.4 and another high stake bet on Alcaraz winning 2:0 in sets @2. I am practically building my bank on games like this and this type of bets make or break my betting balance in the yearly spreadsheet.

I know I will be nervous during the match even if it gets close, rooting for 6:1 6:1 and peace of mind

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 02, 2022, 09:03:09 AM

The odds offered on Alcaraz winner against Ruud are not high, but the Spanish seems to be the favorite.
There is only one precedent between the two players.
About a year ago they played a game that ended with Alcaraz victory (6-2 6-4) even if it was another surface much more suited to his playing characteristics.

Personally I will try to play a bet during the "live" match hoping for a 10% more odds.
It is a risk (because I could also get 10% less) but it is worth it to maximize the final result.

Today the women tournament ends with the match between Osaka and Swiatek!
I have my idea of how the match will end, but I keep it to myself Wink

I have shifted my betting to both Rollbit and Nitrogensports instead of
Sportsbet but I have some Satoshi's still on Sportsbet which I cant transfer out,
I checked the odds on Alcaraz and they are not bad IMO, Alcaraz 1.34 v 3.35 Ruud
and I've put a "sure bet" of 0.2mBTC on Alcaraz to take 1 set also on Sportsbet.

Rollbit have Alcaraz to win @ 1.32 and Nitrogensports 1.30

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Quote from: Joca97 on April 02, 2022, 03:34:47 PM

Quote from: Jating on April 02, 2022, 03:21:14 PM

I was shocked to see the final score on the Osaka vs Swiatek match, Swiatek completely dominated Osaka specially in the second game wherein she score a bagel in the finals.

Well, if you look at her winning path, Swiatek registered twice 6-0 wins if I'm not mistaken. But this is finals so I'm not expecting here to score like that specially against a come backing Osaka.

So congrats to Swiatek, Sunshine double winner.

Swiatek won 6-4 6-0 against Osaka . This is a big result and Swiatek destroyed Osaka and Osaka was playing really good in this tournament. Swiatek also with this title and win is one step closer to that first place in the world and its just a matter of time when she will grab it

Yeah, it was a good win for me as well as Swiatek covered the handicap points. I think the pressure is on Osaka in this game, but as we can see in the score, Swiatek was really above any girls in the tournament.

I have Alcaraz to win in the finals against Hurkacz -3.5 at 1.79.

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Quote from: Jating on April 02, 2022, 03:21:14 PM

I was shocked to see the final score on the Osaka vs Swiatek match, Swiatek completely dominated Osaka specially in the second game wherein she score a bagel in the finals.

Well, if you look at her winning path, Swiatek registered twice 6-0 wins if I'm not mistaken. But this is finals so I'm not expecting here to score like that specially against a come backing Osaka.

So congrats to Swiatek, Sunshine double winner.

Swiatek won 6-4 6-0 against Osaka . This is a big result and Swiatek destroyed Osaka and Osaka was playing really good in this tournament. Swiatek also with this title and win is one step closer to that first place in the world and its just a matter of time when she will grab it

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I was shocked to see the final score on the Osaka vs Swiatek match, Swiatek completely dominated Osaka specially in the second game wherein she score a bagel in the finals.

Well, if you look at her winning path, Swiatek registered twice 6-0 wins if I'm not mistaken. But this is finals so I'm not expecting here to score like that specially against a come backing Osaka.

So congrats to Swiatek, Sunshine double winner.

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Quote from: Joca97 on April 02, 2022, 07:10:35 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on April 02, 2022, 05:05:57 AM

''Spanish teenager Carlos Alcaraz will play Casper Ruud in the Miami Open final after beating Poland's defending champion Hubert Hurkacz for the biggest result of his flourishing career.''
'"It's something that you dream of when you are a child," said Alcaraz.''
''I'm going to approach the final like a first round, trying to mask the nerves," the world number 16 added. "I'm going to enjoy it, it's going to be a great final."

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/60961877

A new tennis star seems to have been born.
I like his games, and even more his attitude and work ethic.
It reminds me of Nadal at his age.
The old stars are at the end of their careers, and Alcaraz looks like a future great tennis champion. What do you think?
It seems to me that the new generation is definitely ready to take over the top of world tennis from Nadal and Djokovic.

Wow,we are gonna have a new masters winner. I think with how good Alcaraz is playing that he will win,also i think its time for him to win a his first big tournament. The new generation isnt taking over the tennis world. The problem currently is that Nadal is injured and that Djokovic is unable to play.Once they return it will go back to normal

This. Nadal already showed he is untouchable when playing uninjured this season and I am a bit concerned for competition when Djokovic is allowed to play. He will be motivated like he wasn't for a long time and I am thinking we could start seeing some 6:1 6:1 victories form his side even against "top" players.

Younger generation has some good players but nobody has consistency and mental strength of Djoko or Nadal. That is best seen on Grand Slams and that is why we have so small number of GS winners outside of the big 3.

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The odds offered on Alcaraz winner against Ruud are not high, but the Spanish seems to be the favorite.
There is only one precedent between the two players.
About a year ago they played a game that ended with Alcaraz victory (6-2 6-4) even if it was another surface much more suited to his playing characteristics.

Personally I will try to play a bet during the "live" match hoping for a 10% more odds.
It is a risk (because I could also get 10% less) but it is worth it to maximize the final result.

Today the women tournament ends with the match between Osaka and Swiatek!
I have my idea of how the match will end, but I keep it to myself Wink

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 02, 2022, 05:05:57 AM

''Spanish teenager Carlos Alcaraz will play Casper Ruud in the Miami Open final after beating Poland's defending champion Hubert Hurkacz for the biggest result of his flourishing career.''
'"It's something that you dream of when you are a child," said Alcaraz.''
''I'm going to approach the final like a first round, trying to mask the nerves," the world number 16 added. "I'm going to enjoy it, it's going to be a great final."

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/60961877

A new tennis star seems to have been born.
I like his games, and even more his attitude and work ethic.
It reminds me of Nadal at his age.
The old stars are at the end of their careers, and Alcaraz looks like a future great tennis champion. What do you think?
It seems to me that the new generation is definitely ready to take over the top of world tennis from Nadal and Djokovic.

Wow,we are gonna have a new masters winner. I think with how good Alcaraz is playing that he will win,also i think its time for him to win a his first big tournament. The new generation isnt taking over the tennis world. The problem currently is that Nadal is injured and that Djokovic is unable to play.Once they return it will go back to normal

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