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March 24, 2022, 02:22:55 AM
Jeez, I've been sleeping under a rock I guess. I just heard that Barty retired - seems like a weird choice at first glance. She could have cruise controlled to like 30 mil $ extra prize money in the next 5 years or so - but maybe she decided she's got enough money already.

I don't recall anybody leaving so abruptly in their prime - with potentially 10 more years ahead of them. What's the reason?
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March 23, 2022, 05:21:39 PM
Just found out meself about Barty, feels pretty rare an event but I haven't followed tennis properly but hey, too short for us, just enough for her, fair game. Reminds us that these are people in the end and with goals and dreams, but damn, she went out on a high, didn't she? Aussies hearts be broken.

P.S. Wouldn't be ruling out a future return, though if she does, hope better than Hingis did on her second, third return? Ultimately incomparable of course.
Also heard the news this morning and didn't saw it coming. I don't think she will come back for a third time, she seems pretty convinced this time that it has been enough and she wants to enjoy life. She earned around 22 million $, so that's also a quite nice amount to do something lol!
It is a big news for tennis fans because no one was expecting this news from Barty at this time she can do something more for many years, but we can't talk about this as she can give better reasons about her this decision most chance she is going to announce on Thursday officially which is really shocking, but sadly we have to accept his this decision.
 
We have another bad news now Rafael Nadal is also having Rib injury and now with this he is going out of tennis for five to six weeks which is surely not good news for tennis community as Djokovic is already out just because of having no vaccination and now Rafael Nadal is also out. https://twitter.com/RafaelNadal/status/1506273644917530629?s=20&t=3mXD0MtPBJEaBtFNpYSe1Q

This is really bad news for Nadal after playing really good since the beggining of the year. Also Djokovic will return i think first at Serbian open then he will play in Monte Carlo and on Rolan garros so finally we can see Djokovic play this year on some of the tournaments
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March 23, 2022, 05:13:11 PM
Now that the coronavirus is also slowly extinguishing, can all tournaments soon be played again under the watchful eye of the spectators? Especially at Grand Slam tournaments that was a really strange sight to see. It sometimes seemed like a training party because there was no cheering from the audience. And there are also players who will perform better if there is a large audience. It remains strange that Djokovic simply still does not get vaccinated and that he is refused, unimaginable that he has his own ego so high.
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March 23, 2022, 05:10:13 PM
~snip
It can be even less grueling for the best players. There is a rule that you only get so much points from lower lever tournaments. Not sure about details but you only get points to win ATP 250 & ATP 500 categories tournaments maybe a couple of times per season. So you basically end up playing just grand slams and ATP 1000 tournaments. Still a lot of tennis but nowhere near every week. Thay is actually about 25 weeks of tennis, roughly half a year.

I would be more than happy if I needed to work just half a year, Grin

you cannot have more than 18 tournaments counted in one calendar year - 365 days (you can play more, but only best 18 will count towards ranking)
so, basically ATP 250 rarely counts for top players, with four slams, final master and masters tournaments (basically 14 in a season), you have only four tournaments out from those that could be countable, and you would want them to be ATP 500 Smiley
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March 23, 2022, 05:01:13 PM
I also have to say about Barty... it's not the first time a tennis player has done this. And she was picking and choosing her tournaments before this anyway.

I think the authorities have to take a look at the tour, it's just ridiculous now, men and women. The calendar has so many tournaments crammed in, to make some $$$, but for the players it's basically a full year of relentless tennis, moving around the world from week to week, with the only respite a couple of weeks off over Christmas... which no doubt gets cut short anyway as pre-season training needs to start ahead of the January events. It's crazy.

Not sure how much this feeds into the Barty decision, but it has to play a part. Probably also with some of the mental health issues we've had, Osaka etc.

The thing is though that they dont have to play them all, certainly not the top
players if it about earning a living.

If its about points and growing a ranking then yes its essential to play as
many tournaments as possible. It is demanding sport with the global travels and
Barty did say before that it didnt make her happy to be away from home for
too long, I'm sure this is the case for a lot of players.
It can be even less grueling for the best players. There is a rule that you only get so much points from lower lever tournaments. Not sure about details but you only get points to win ATP 250 & ATP 500 categories tournaments maybe a couple of times per season. So you basically end up playing just grand slams and ATP 1000 tournaments. Still a lot of tennis but nowhere near every week. Thay is actually about 25 weeks of tennis, roughly half a year.

I would be more than happy if I needed to work just half a year, Grin
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March 23, 2022, 04:34:09 PM
I also have to say about Barty... it's not the first time a tennis player has done this. And she was picking and choosing her tournaments before this anyway.

I think the authorities have to take a look at the tour, it's just ridiculous now, men and women. The calendar has so many tournaments crammed in, to make some $$$, but for the players it's basically a full year of relentless tennis, moving around the world from week to week, with the only respite a couple of weeks off over Christmas... which no doubt gets cut short anyway as pre-season training needs to start ahead of the January events. It's crazy.

Not sure how much this feeds into the Barty decision, but it has to play a part. Probably also with some of the mental health issues we've had, Osaka etc.

The thing is though that they dont have to play them all, certainly not the top
players if it about earning a living.

If its about points and growing a ranking then yes its essential to play as
many tournaments as possible. It is demanding sport with the global travels and
Barty did say before that it didnt make her happy to be away from home for
too long, I'm sure this is the case for a lot of players.
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March 23, 2022, 03:06:11 PM
Just found out meself about Barty, feels pretty rare an event but I haven't followed tennis properly but hey, too short for us, just enough for her, fair game. Reminds us that these are people in the end and with goals and dreams, but damn, she went out on a high, didn't she? Aussies hearts be broken.

P.S. Wouldn't be ruling out a future return, though if she does, hope better than Hingis did on her second, third return? Ultimately incomparable of course.
Also heard the news this morning and didn't saw it coming. I don't think she will come back for a third time, she seems pretty convinced this time that it has been enough and she wants to enjoy life. She earned around 22 million $, so that's also a quite nice amount to do something lol!
It is a big news for tennis fans because no one was expecting this news from Barty at this time she can do something more for many years, but we can't talk about this as she can give better reasons about her this decision most chance she is going to announce on Thursday officially which is really shocking, but sadly we have to accept his this decision.
 
We have another bad news now Rafael Nadal is also having Rib injury and now with this he is going out of tennis for five to six weeks which is surely not good news for tennis community as Djokovic is already out just because of having no vaccination and now Rafael Nadal is also out. https://twitter.com/RafaelNadal/status/1506273644917530629?s=20&t=3mXD0MtPBJEaBtFNpYSe1Q
legendary
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March 23, 2022, 02:50:21 PM
Just found out meself about Barty, feels pretty rare an event but I haven't followed tennis properly but hey, too short for us, just enough for her, fair game. Reminds us that these are people in the end and with goals and dreams, but damn, she went out on a high, didn't she? Aussies hearts be broken.

P.S. Wouldn't be ruling out a future return, though if she does, hope better than Hingis did on her second, third return? Ultimately incomparable of course.

Also heard the news this morning and didn't saw it coming. I don't think she will come back for a third time, she seems pretty convinced this time that it has been enough and she wants to enjoy life. She earned around 22 million $, so that's also a quite nice amount to do something lol!

It is very strange that she has already stopped at this age. We have seen tennis players in the past who have stopped using it because they were physically unable to handle it. But then we are talking about the age category of approximately 25. That's very different from Barty. She seems quite convinced of her choice, but perhaps it would have been more convenient if she would just take a time out, then she could always come back to it and after a few months call it quits.
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March 23, 2022, 02:24:09 PM
Just found out meself about Barty, feels pretty rare an event but I haven't followed tennis properly but hey, too short for us, just enough for her, fair game. Reminds us that these are people in the end and with goals and dreams, but damn, she went out on a high, didn't she? Aussies hearts be broken.

P.S. Wouldn't be ruling out a future return, though if she does, hope better than Hingis did on her second, third return? Ultimately incomparable of course.

Also heard the news this morning and didn't saw it coming. I don't think she will come back for a third time, she seems pretty convinced this time that it has been enough and she wants to enjoy life. She earned around 22 million $, so that's also a quite nice amount to do something lol!
legendary
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March 23, 2022, 01:12:18 PM
I also have to say about Barty... it's not the first time a tennis player has done this. And she was picking and choosing her tournaments before this anyway.

I think the authorities have to take a look at the tour, it's just ridiculous now, men and women. The calendar has so many tournaments crammed in, to make some $$$, but for the players it's basically a full year of relentless tennis, moving around the world from week to week, with the only respite a couple of weeks off over Christmas... which no doubt gets cut short anyway as pre-season training needs to start ahead of the January events. It's crazy.

Not sure how much this feeds into the Barty decision, but it has to play a part. Probably also with some of the mental health issues we've had, Osaka etc.
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March 23, 2022, 12:25:42 PM
Just found out meself about Barty, feels pretty rare an event but I haven't followed tennis properly but hey, too short for us, just enough for her, fair game. Reminds us that these are people in the end and with goals and dreams, but damn, she went out on a high, didn't she? Aussies hearts be broken.

P.S. Wouldn't be ruling out a future return, though if she does, hope better than Hingis did on her second, third return? Ultimately incomparable of course.
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March 23, 2022, 12:20:49 PM
Breaking news!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/ash-barty-retires-from-tennis-tennis-news-2022-latest-update-french-open-wimbledon-ashleigh-barty/news-story/0bc29eb5bc08cb48406efa51b19f1953
Tennis player Ashleigh Barty, despite her very young age (25 years), has announced her retirement from competitions.
she is the current number one in the WTA rankings!
Really did not see this coming. She is young, on top of her game and always looks so positive. Big surprise for me.

Bad news never come alone so now it is confirmed that Nadal has cracked rib. Meaning 4 to 6 weeks pause and missing all the tournaments leading to RG where he counted on many points, especially with the form this season. Even RG could come into question. How quickly it all changes in professional sports.

Oh wow, I didn't see this coming from Ash because she still can compete as she is still very young.

And as we have suspected on Nadal, he is injured and that is the main reason why he lost the finals of the Indian Wells. 4-6 weeks is long pause and then he has to nurse himself before the RG. So it's a big disappointment on him, I guess father time is calling on Nadal now, just a matter of time.
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March 23, 2022, 12:08:30 PM
I've got bets on Ash winning everything up-to and including Wimbledon - I guess I'm going to have to wait until they are over to get refunds of my bets.

is that a refund?
not sure that there is a rule for "unexpected retirement" in bookies?
It all depends when the bet was placed. If Barty has not played a single match after bet placement I am quite sure most bookies will simply void the bet. If she played a match after placing the bet I would not expect a return but maybe some bookies will give it anyway. Did not have a situation like this on my ticket so I am following general guidelines from other sports. Ie. player scores market in soccer, if player played at least a second bet is regular and money lost. If he did not - refund. Same in handball, Vaterpollo...
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March 23, 2022, 11:01:06 AM
Breaking news!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/ash-barty-retires-from-tennis-tennis-news-2022-latest-update-french-open-wimbledon-ashleigh-barty/news-story/0bc29eb5bc08cb48406efa51b19f1953
Tennis player Ashleigh Barty, despite her very young age (25 years), has announced her retirement from competitions.
she is the current number one in the WTA rankings!
Really did not see this coming. She is young, on top of her game and always looks so positive. Big surprise for me.


It sounds like it's mostly a lack of motivation. She always said Wimbledon was her main target, and she's won that. She's an Aussie, so the AO also has importance for her, she's won that now too. Of course I'm surprised and she could have gone on longer at the very top... but then at the other end of the scale you can look at someone like Andy Murray, who used to be at or near the peak of the game, but now is not and will never regain those previous heights, and you wonder why he keeps playing... he just wants to, motivation. Barty doesn't want to. Maybe she'll regret it later, maybe not, but it's understandable I suppose. I can well imagine that sustaining an elite tennis career requires huge motivation, and if you feel that slipping, it's time to call it quits.
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March 23, 2022, 07:56:25 AM
I've got bets on Ash winning everything up-to and including Wimbledon - I guess I'm going to have to wait until they are over to get refunds of my bets.

is that a refund?
not sure that there is a rule for "unexpected retirement" in bookies?
it is a shocker, but it is not that unusual for women tennis, there are few players that retired unexpectedly even before, or made some few years break

but there is no such thing in men tennis, or not on that level
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March 23, 2022, 03:12:04 AM
I've got bets on Ash winning everything up-to and including Wimbledon - I guess I'm going to have to wait until they are over to get refunds of my bets.
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March 23, 2022, 01:59:40 AM
Barty: wow thats big news, didnt see that coming either.

She has probably achieved her personal goals in Tennis and at such a young age
of 25. She said in the article she wants to move on to other things which no doubt
she will excell at.

Nadal: how in hell did he get a cracked rib? its hardly from pure exertion and force
from playing Tennis?
Thats unfortunate for him specially when he would have been targeting RG and
using the tournaments on the lead in to prepare.
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March 23, 2022, 01:49:09 AM
Breaking news!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/ash-barty-retires-from-tennis-tennis-news-2022-latest-update-french-open-wimbledon-ashleigh-barty/news-story/0bc29eb5bc08cb48406efa51b19f1953
Tennis player Ashleigh Barty, despite her very young age (25 years), has announced her retirement from competitions.
she is the current number one in the WTA rankings!
Really did not see this coming. She is young, on top of her game and always looks so positive. Big surprise for me.

Bad news never come alone so now it is confirmed that Nadal has cracked rib. Meaning 4 to 6 weeks pause and missing all the tournaments leading to RG where he counted on many points, especially with the form this season. Even RG could come into question. How quickly it all changes in professional sports.
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March 23, 2022, 12:22:56 AM
Breaking news!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/ash-barty-retires-from-tennis-tennis-news-2022-latest-update-french-open-wimbledon-ashleigh-barty/news-story/0bc29eb5bc08cb48406efa51b19f1953
Tennis player Ashleigh Barty, despite her very young age (25 years), has announced her retirement from competitions.
she is the current number one in the WTA rankings!
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March 21, 2022, 06:09:06 AM
^ Yeah, looks like that's the one thing we forgot to consider in Nadal's excellence this year (and someone even was saying he was playing like a young man) --  his injuries past and his age. You can play at peak performance, in the form of your life, but your body doesn't forget.

I ended up putting a small bet on Nadal 2:1 and even tuned in for a quick peek before going to bed close to midnight, so seeing Fritz already won the first set made me think I could be on to something.

Think was 13/1 straight set win?

it wasn't Nadal's tournament after all
he had several matches where he played bad, but pulled through in the end
and last night it was simply not possible, he started really bad, two lost sets, tried to pull himself together, but you cannot make from 2:5 turnout every day (he should let first set, it would probably be better for his stamina), and in second set, he tried but did not succeed to get break in seventh game (it was a close one), and in the end had two servers to equalize on 1:1 (5:4 in tie break), but shots simply went out, to tired probably

Djokovic is back to no.1

Yeah, maybe this is the reason why we've seen him perform "bad" as per standard of Nadal. And he may have carrying this sort of injury but managed to get thru but in the finals, Fritz was unforgiving and it really caught up on Nadal.

Looking the current standing, yes, Djokovic is back to number 1, Nadal climbing up to number 3, while Medvedev is in the second spot again. And with with win, Fritz moves up to number 13.
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