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Quote from: Trofo on September 13, 2021, 11:20:40 AM

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Quote from: casperBGD on September 13, 2021, 01:55:56 AM

I do think that Djokovic has beaten himself with all the pressure he mounted on himself

Yes, I think that. I said a few pages back that the one person in the tournament who can beat Djokovic is Djokovic himself, and that is what happened. A great performance from Medvedev certainly, but Djokovic was well below his usual standard. If Medvedev had faced a Djokovic who was playing at 100% or even maybe 85% of his ability, then the outcome would have been different.

Of course pressure was part of the reason Djokovic lost, but don't take anything away from Medvedev, he was the only one who managed to beat him in US Open and Djokovic played whole tournament well below his best and still came to the final. Historically, Djokovic is always great at AO, not so much at US Open, has to be something with the way he trains and prepares for the season.

I watched the match on Amazon Prime, the two commentators Tim Hrnman and
Jim Courier both had Medvedev to win. They also stated that Djokovic had 5.5 hours extra
played in the tournament over Medvedev.

Djokovic had 4 x 4 set matches and 1 5 set match against Zverev while Medvedev
won all bar 1 of his matches in 3 sets. That has to have an effect on performance also.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on September 13, 2021, 10:52:03 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on September 13, 2021, 01:55:56 AM

I do think that Djokovic has beaten himself with all the pressure he mounted on himself

Yes, I think that. I said a few pages back that the one person in the tournament who can beat Djokovic is Djokovic himself, and that is what happened. A great performance from Medvedev certainly, but Djokovic was well below his usual standard. If Medvedev had faced a Djokovic who was playing at 100% or even maybe 85% of his ability, then the outcome would have been different.

Of course pressure was part of the reason Djokovic lost, but don't take anything away from Medvedev, he was the only one who managed to beat him in US Open and Djokovic played whole tournament well below his best and still came to the final. Historically, Djokovic is always great at AO, not so much at US Open, has to be something with the way he trains and prepares for the season.

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Quote from: casperBGD on September 13, 2021, 01:55:56 AM

I do think that Djokovic has beaten himself with all the pressure he mounted on himself

Yes, I think that. I said a few pages back that the one person in the tournament who can beat Djokovic is Djokovic himself, and that is what happened. A great performance from Medvedev certainly, but Djokovic was well below his usual standard. If Medvedev had faced a Djokovic who was playing at 100% or even maybe 85% of his ability, then the outcome would have been different.

I'm sure he beat himself, and there are quite striking parallels here with Serena Williams' ongoing failure to win that elusive final grand slam. Her task is perhaps somewhat easier because a) it's a single slam, she doesn't have to win all 4 in the same year, and b) she doesn't have to beat Nadal on clay to do it!

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Quote from: Koal-84 on September 13, 2021, 02:25:07 AM

Quote from: aoluain on September 12, 2021, 06:11:16 PM

What a very nervous last game in the last set for Medvedev, he finished it
out in the end, 6-4, 6-4 and 6-4.
I think everyone expected Djokovic to cone back after each set but his 1st serve
wasnt working and looked overall lack lustre.
Delighted for one of my favourite players though, I had him to take one set thats all.
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A very good and convincing match from Medvedev, I would not have expected so, the victory was unique and clear against Djokovic, who seemed very frustrated at the end. I'm sure he knows it himself, the chance for the Golden Slam he will probably no longer get.

I was very sad to see Djokovic in tears after the game. He is one of my favourite players and the consistency he had was outstanding, until today's match. I don't know what went wrong, maybe he lacked motivation or something, I don't know. What I know is, he could have done better but Medvedev was just better today. He showed sheer class, he was very motivated and he enjoyed the game. Losing 6-4 in three straight sets is pretty harsh.

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Quote from: casperBGD on September 13, 2021, 01:55:56 AM

must say that although I did not expect an easy win for Djokovic, straight set lose was as far from my expectation as one prediction can be, and that cost my betting account a lot
in the end, Medvedev played great, but I do think that Djokovic has beaten himself with all the pressure he mounted on himself to win all GS's this year, and all the talk that was about it lately, he was just broken in the finals
nevertheless, expected some comeback from him, but it did not happened, congrats to Daniil, it was his afternoon (night here in my place) and he played whole tournament well, spent more than 6 hours less on the playground than Djokovic during the tournament

AO could be something else, but these two loses in a row (OG and US) could mean that change is happenning in men's tennis

I did not expect a 3 0 win for medvedev too but i thought that there is a good chance for medvedev to win and especially after the tight semi final game that djokovic had aginst zverev and considering the age difference i was questioning if he could recover in time and it seems that it was the case and as you said he was under a lot of pressure.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 12, 2021, 07:06:35 PM

What a win for Medvedev winning his first ever grand slam title in the moment when Djokovic was chaising history.Medvedev served so good that Djokovic didnt have much of a chance.Even when Djokovic had a chance he missed too many easy shots.I guess he was emotionally and fitness tired.What a year it has been for him,its sad that he didnt win it all.

I never expected that Medvedev could really pull it of and defeat Djokovic, but it happened. Medvedev played really great don't get me wrong but it seemed to me that Djokovic could not reach his full potential yesterday which is really sad for him as he had an historic opportunity like you already said. I also think that this was the main reason why Djokovic seemed kind of restrained yesterday, just like he did when he played in the semi final of the olympic games vs Zverev. If you can achieve something historic then even the best and most experienced players like Djokovic are starting to feel the pressure and yesterday he could not deal with it sadly.

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Quote from: babygun on September 12, 2021, 08:45:30 PM

Some of the guys here (@Trofo) predicted that Medvedev would win in straight sets and he got it right! Wasn't able to really see the match, but according to the analysis Djokovic was outplayed by Medvedev on all levels. Congrats to him for winning his first grand slam and probably some more will follow.

It must of had incredible odds because when I checked prematch Medvedev was hovering around 3.25x and not dropping a set to Djokovic was pretty amazing especially the way he was playing in this year's US open.
Hats off to him and to the ones who pick Danil to win it all also being his first grand slam. Which I was surprised when I saw this stat before the match started.
But kind of disappointed to not see a calendar year grand slam for Novak since he had that DQ at the last US Open.
It would of marked his reset and have that 21 milestone behind him.

To be fair I don't think I ever said Medvedev is winning in straight sets. I expected Djokovic to take at least one set but that was not important for my bets. I had Medvedev to take at least one set @1.45 as my high stake bet.

I had Medvedev ML just for low stake unfortunately, was expecting it but not really believing. I managed to get @3.65 with super boost applied.

Watched first set and a half. Medvedev was untouchable in first set but Djoko could have and should have gotten the break early in second. Had 0-40 and easy volley on first break ball. After he did not convert that one, Medvedev did not give another opportunity.

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Quote from: aoluain on September 12, 2021, 06:11:16 PM

What a very nervous last game in the last set for Medvedev, he finished it
out in the end, 6-4, 6-4 and 6-4.

I think everyone expected Djokovic to cone back after each set but his 1st serve
wasnt working and looked overall lack lustre.

Delighted for one of my favourite players though, I had him to take one set thats all.

L2 + Left ... Class

A very good and convincing match from Medvedev, I would not have expected so, the victory was unique and clear against Djokovic, who seemed very frustrated at the end. I'm sure he knows it himself, the chance for the Golden Slam he will probably no longer get.

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must say that although I did not expect an easy win for Djokovic, straight set lose was as far from my expectation as one prediction can be, and that cost my betting account a lot
in the end, Medvedev played great, but I do think that Djokovic has beaten himself with all the pressure he mounted on himself to win all GS's this year, and all the talk that was about it lately, he was just broken in the finals
nevertheless, expected some comeback from him, but it did not happened, congrats to Daniil, it was his afternoon (night here in my place) and he played whole tournament well, spent more than 6 hours less on the playground than Djokovic during the tournament

AO could be something else, but these two loses in a row (OG and US) could mean that change is happenning in men's tennis

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Quote from: babygun on September 12, 2021, 08:45:30 PM

Some of the guys here (@Trofo) predicted that Medvedev would win in straight sets and he got it right! Wasn't able to really see the match, but according to the analysis Djokovic was outplayed by Medvedev on all levels. Congrats to him for winning his first grand slam and probably some more will follow.

It must of had incredible odds because when I checked prematch Medvedev was hovering around 3.25x and not dropping a set to Djokovic was pretty amazing especially the way he was playing in this year's US open.
Hats off to him and to the ones who pick Danil to win it all also being his first grand slam. Which I was surprised when I saw this stat before the match started.
But kind of disappointed to not see a calendar year grand slam for Novak since he had that DQ at the last US Open.
It would of marked his reset and have that 21 milestone behind him.

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A great tournament by Medvedev, he just confirmed it in the final once again. He's too strong and powerful for Đoković when he's hitting his shots, he's also extremely hard to break on hard surfaces.

Đoković was not at his best, perhaps because he was always chasing the game. He played some great points, especially on the net, but also missed some sitters - he had to finish a few of Medvedev's missed dropshots but he missed them all.

All in all - I'm really happy for Medvedev. He deserves this and Đoković will have to hunt for no. 21 in his favorite place - Australia.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 12, 2021, 09:37:53 PM

I just saw the result of the men's UP Open Final. I am one of the many people that didn't that one coming. I know Medvedev had a good chance to take it but I was expecting a tougher and longer match. You don't often see someone beating Djokovic like that especially in a Grand Slam Final.

What do you think of the crowd?

I was rooting for Daniil all the way but in the last set when he was serving for the match
some of the crowd did not show him respect, they were too noisy. The pressure was on
and the crowd made it even more so with their chanting and cheering before his serve.

The players are not used to this noise there is always respect and silence during play
(most of the time)

I also thought the Chair Umpire was not strong enough with his warnings.

Anyway I am delighted for Daniil that he has finally made his mark in the GS. Djokovic,
Nadal and Federer have 60 GS's between them over many years, their dominance is waning,
its time for new winners please.

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My prediction for this final match is correct that the match will not last five sets, but honestly I don't think that Medvedev will be able to do it, finally he able to lift GS trophy for the first time, and gradually the domination of the big 3 will begin to be broken by another players.
Djokovic still have time to make another records for his carrer, I don't see the Djokovic will retired soon, his physical and metality still very well, maybe he will still play for 3 years or even 5 more years.

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Quote from: Jating on September 12, 2021, 04:36:01 AM

I have over 38.5 boosted @1.93 for the mens final. Then 3.05 for Medvedev to win ML. In any case that he will win against Djokovic, I reckon it will be in 5 sets so the over can also give me some win. And worst case scenario it can still be covered as well if Djokovic win.

Good calculated, You boosted Medvedev to win. Congratulation.
That was too easy with Medvedev, won in 3 set with the same (6-4, Unique number), in fact, we have a new winner on US Open (SIngle man and women). I bit surprised by Djokovic. He doesn't look like before, looks discouraged when lost in 2nd round. he has failed to reach 21, his record still the same as Federer and Nadal.

Congrats, Medvedev!

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Quote from: babygun on September 12, 2021, 08:45:30 PM

Some of the guys here (@Trofo) predicted that Medvedev would win in straight sets and he got it right! Wasn't able to really see the match, but according to the analysis Djokovic was outplayed by Medvedev on all levels. Congrats to him for winning his first grand slam and probably some more will follow.

Djokovic just a dose of his own medicine, Medvedev really play perfect and in the whole tournament just dropped one set, that's really an amazing record. And then beating Djokovic in straight sets, outplayed him in every shots and every angle. The third and final set though looks like Djokovic will make a big comeback, but Medvedev have enough lead and there's no magical comeback.

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I just saw the result of the men's UP Open Final. I am one of the many people that didn't that one coming. I know Medvedev had a good chance to take it but I was expecting a tougher and longer match. You don't often see someone beating Djokovic like that especially in a Grand Slam Final.

What do you think of the crowd?

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Some of the guys here (@Trofo) predicted that Medvedev would win in straight sets and he got it right! Wasn't able to really see the match, but according to the analysis Djokovic was outplayed by Medvedev on all levels. Congrats to him for winning his first grand slam and probably some more will follow.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 12, 2021, 12:57:55 AM

I caught 3.10 odds on Medvedev, I know that betting against Đoković is rarely a good idea but I feel that the odds are completely out of place here. This bet has huge value IMO, and handicaps start from 7,5 - no way Đoković is such a clear favorite against an in-form Medvedev.

That odds will get even better as the time of the match gets closer. I can now play it on sportsbet @3.25 and they usually don't heave the best odds without boost, when I apply the boost it gets to nice @3.45 and I expect to get supper boost on it during the day. Should be odds @4 before I take them

As you said immense value, even though I never like playing against Djokovic.
Medvedev to take at least one set is also at very respectful @1.45 and that one seems like free money to me, just searching for another match to add to the ticket to boost it over 2.

No way that I will be betting on Medvedev. Yes I admit that he is in great form and he has already upset Djokovic in the Olympics but I have a really strong feeling that even though the match would be close, Djokovic will win it. There's no telling that he is one of the best if not the best tennis player right now. And I prefer to go for safe gambles, so Djokovic is it for me.

Unfortunately, Djokovic lost the match in 3 straight sets.

So I'm all good, winning a ML for Medvedev but lost my over bet.

@Joca97 - yeah, when he stormed the first set, Medvedev is destined to win and not allow for Djokovic to win the slam for this year. Still Djokovic fought hard in the 2nd set, but Medvedev can't be deny, so in the 3rd set, it was just moot, leading 4-1, there's no way that Djokovic can recover the way he is hitting his shots. So good job by Medvedev, now the young generations are really on his coat tail and it might be the end of an era for the big 3.

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What a win for Medvedev winning his first ever grand slam title in the moment when Djokovic was chaising history.Medvedev served so good that Djokovic didnt have much of a chance.Even when Djokovic had a chance he missed too many easy shots.I guess he was emotionally and fitness tired.What a year it has been for him,its sad that he didnt win it all.

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Quote from: ingiltere on September 12, 2021, 06:11:27 PM

It was an incredible game, though to watch Djokovic to lose but it happens. Fans were different, it's all emotions ups and downs all game. Djokovic cried before the game finished, you don't witness something like that in major sports.

I really felt bad for losing my bet and also for Novak, the match was not finished yet and he started crying, Medvedev did not give him a chance to recover and he I didn't expect Novak to give up like that, 21st grand slam as Medvedev said is coming for sure for Novak and he's going to break the record.

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