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Quote from: Kemarit on October 11, 2020, 06:54:20 PM

Quote from: vella85 on October 11, 2020, 04:40:35 PM

There is no doubt that Djokovic wasn't 100% losing this badly in a grand slam final. But we all know how dominant Nadal is at the French Open and now he equals Federer on 20 grand slam titles in the year 2020 as I suspected would happen. Nadal's record at the French Open is simply amazing only losing 2 times, this will never happen again well not in our lifetime. Congrats Nadal!

Exactly, but to Djokovic is really sports, he didn't make any excuses in his lost to Nadal. 6-0 first set? Damn, I can't remember what are the odds, was thinking of putting 6-3 beat on Nadal, luckily I didn't pull the trigger but just stay on the ML for Nadal, so just a couple of bucks winnings.

And in this modern era, we might not see that someone breaking that record, and it will continue no doubt about that and I would say that is one record that is going hard to break, or even get close to it. Djokovic though will remain at the #1 position.

The odds for Nadal winning the first set 6-0 would of been huge as no one would of expected this to happen even though Nadal is the king on the clay. Djokovic is the world number 1 for a reason and to see him lose this badly made him look like a player ranked outside the top 100 that's how good Nadal was on the day.

Yeah he still holds the number 1 rank and will most likely finish the year ranked number 1 as Djokovic is around 1400 points clear at the top ahead of Nadal. Maybe we will see Nadal drop and Thiem work his way up to second depending on what tournaments we see in the next 2 months. Well we know there will be no tennis played in China so we shall see as now the virus is getting out of control in Europe again.

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Quote from: babygun on October 12, 2020, 01:37:56 PM

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That's 13th French Open title for Nadal among last 16. It's nothing new for him. Iga Swiatek is the surprising new talent for this grand slam. Clay court and other courts (Grass, Hard and Carpet) are a bit different for players. How good she is on other courts is still to be seen. She have stated that Nadal is her idol as a tennis player. We could expect these two to win again next year if they maintain their fitness.

it is a rather bold statement to put Nadal and Iga Swiatek in the same sentence, as they both would win something
Iga just started, it is a big surprise, and as far as things are going in tennis, she could be kicked-out in the first round next season, saying that i hope that she will continue to play good tennis, but Nadal proved himself in last two decades as "king of clay" and it is just not suitable to compare him to Iga, no matter how good she is

I agree with you. Swiatek is a talent, but the top at the Women side is broad and I expect that we will see a lot of different Grand Slam champions every year. The only one we maybe could win a couple of Grand Slams is Osaka.
On Men side: as long as Nadal is fit, he will always be the man to beat at Roland Garros.

And besides that, the women side is totally unpredictable, we might see someone rising the ranks wins a Grand Slam, but after that she goes on the slump. So it's not that consistent, we have seen this many times before, like Osaka, after her good run, she change coach then her performance plummet.

So it remains to be since for Iga, she maybe good in court, but there are other surfaces that she might find herself in a difficult situations are other ladies are better than her. So she needs a lot of improvement. But the thing is, time is on her side, she is still young and can really developed, let's see how it goes.

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Quote from: casperBGD on October 12, 2020, 06:48:53 AM

Quote from: Tipstar on October 12, 2020, 05:10:31 AM

That's 13th French Open title for Nadal among last 16. It's nothing new for him. Iga Swiatek is the surprising new talent for this grand slam. Clay court and other courts (Grass, Hard and Carpet) are a bit different for players. How good she is on other courts is still to be seen. She have stated that Nadal is her idol as a tennis player. We could expect these two to win again next year if they maintain their fitness.

it is a rather bold statement to put Nadal and Iga Swiatek in the same sentence, as they both would win something
Iga just started, it is a big surprise, and as far as things are going in tennis, she could be kicked-out in the first round next season, saying that i hope that she will continue to play good tennis, but Nadal proved himself in last two decades as "king of clay" and it is just not suitable to compare him to Iga, no matter how good she is

I agree with you. Swiatek is a talent, but the top at the Women side is broad and I expect that we will see a lot of different Grand Slam champions every year. The only one we maybe could win a couple of Grand Slams is Osaka.
On Men side: as long as Nadal is fit, he will always be the man to beat at Roland Garros.

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Quote from: Tipstar on October 12, 2020, 05:10:31 AM

That's 13th French Open title for Nadal among last 16. It's nothing new for him. Iga Swiatek is the surprising new talent for this grand slam. Clay court and other courts (Grass, Hard and Carpet) are a bit different for players. How good she is on other courts is still to be seen. She have stated that Nadal is her idol as a tennis player. We could expect these two to win again next year if they maintain their fitness.

it is a rather bold statement to put Nadal and Iga Swiatek in the same sentence, as they both would win something
Iga just started, it is a big surprise, and as far as things are going in tennis, she could be kicked-out in the first round next season, saying that i hope that she will continue to play good tennis, but Nadal proved himself in last two decades as "king of clay" and it is just not suitable to compare him to Iga, no matter how good she is

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 12, 2020, 04:54:46 AM

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Djokovic said after the game that he did not find his game and that Nadal was fantastic, which proves that he cannot be number one for a long time, if Nadal continues like this, he will get it. The king of clay showed yesterday what a player he is, with the first set 6: 0, I am sincerely glad only because Djokovic won everything with such a result until he came across Tsitsipas and Nadal and showed him that he is not that good.

You should understand where Djokovic is coming from, Lol, he is facing the king of clay courts so what do you expect? 6-0? That say's it all, although it was close in the third set and I thought it will be extended, but Nadal close it with fashion, and thanks to him, it was an easy choice to bet on him and I would say it was really a good odds. But I'm sure Djokovic will be number one though as he has enough points to keep that position.

That's 13th French Open title for Nadal among last 16. It's nothing new for him. Iga Swiatek is the surprising new talent for this grand slam. Clay court and other courts (Grass, Hard and Carpet) are a bit different for players. How good she is on other courts is still to be seen. She have stated that Nadal is her idol as a tennis player. We could expect these two to win again next year if they maintain their fitness.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 12, 2020, 03:55:54 AM

Djokovic said after the game that he did not find his game and that Nadal was fantastic, which proves that he cannot be number one for a long time, if Nadal continues like this, he will get it. The king of clay showed yesterday what a player he is, with the first set 6: 0, I am sincerely glad only because Djokovic won everything with such a result until he came across Tsitsipas and Nadal and showed him that he is not that good.

You should understand where Djokovic is coming from, Lol, he is facing the king of clay courts so what do you expect? 6-0? That say's it all, although it was close in the third set and I thought it will be extended, but Nadal close it with fashion, and thanks to him, it was an easy choice to bet on him and I would say it was really a good odds. But I'm sure Djokovic will be number one though as he has enough points to keep that position.

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Djokovic said after the game that he did not find his game and that Nadal was fantastic, which proves that he cannot be number one for a long time, if Nadal continues like this, he will get it. The king of clay showed yesterday what a player he is, with the first set 6: 0, I am sincerely glad only because Djokovic won everything with such a result until he came across Tsitsipas and Nadal and showed him that he is not that good.

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Quote from: Trofo on October 11, 2020, 01:31:13 PM

Not surprising when you know he had only two loses in total but another bit of stats to depress you when you are playing against him and find yourself a set down Wink

yeah, and when you are down 0:6 in first set, and you did not play that bad (with four gems go to 40:40, and you had three break points for yourself) than the situation is going down, even for Djokovic, which is kind a player that can survive a lot in a match
nevertheless, great play by Nadal, just one as his fans expected, i presume

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Quote from: vella85 on October 11, 2020, 04:40:35 PM

There is no doubt that Djokovic wasn't 100% losing this badly in a grand slam final. But we all know how dominant Nadal is at the French Open and now he equals Federer on 20 grand slam titles in the year 2020 as I suspected would happen. Nadal's record at the French Open is simply amazing only losing 2 times, this will never happen again well not in our lifetime. Congrats Nadal!

Exactly, but to Djokovic is really sports, he didn't make any excuses in his lost to Nadal. 6-0 first set? Damn, I can't remember what are the odds, was thinking of putting 6-3 beat on Nadal, luckily I didn't pull the trigger but just stay on the ML for Nadal, so just a couple of bucks winnings.

And in this modern era, we might not see that someone breaking that record, and it will continue no doubt about that and I would say that is one record that is going hard to break, or even get close to it. Djokovic though will remain at the #1 position.

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There is no doubt that Djokovic wasn't 100% losing this badly in a grand slam final. But we all know how dominant Nadal is at the French Open and now he equals Federer on 20 grand slam titles in the year 2020 as I suspected would happen. Nadal's record at the French Open is simply amazing only losing 2 times, this will never happen again well not in our lifetime. Congrats Nadal!

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 11, 2020, 01:11:43 PM

Nadal's Roland Garros record is 100-2.

That stats actually say it all. There was another interesting fact that Nadal never lost a match in RG when he won first set and he played a lot of them. Not surprising when you know he had only two loses in total but another bit of stats to depress you when you are playing against him and find yourself a set down Wink

I watched most of the match today and Djokovic deserved a little bit better score, there was a lot of games that got to deuce and almost all of them went to Nadal side. That being said Nadal controlled the match perfectly and never looked like he will give Djoko any chance to mount a comeback. Congrats to the champion.

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Rafa and Roger both on 20 Grand Slams now, Rafa will almost certainly claim the top spot soon and hold it from there.
What a tennis era we live in - shame it's coming to an end.

Not much to be said regarding the final itself - too many unforced errors from Đoković for anything else but a heavy loss. But Nadal was on top of his game since the 1st round.

This is his 13th Roland Garros victory and a 100th win in Paris.

I'm going to bold this sentence so it carves into everybody's memory:

Nadal's Roland Garros record is 100-2.

What to say? A true champion.

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Quote from: babygun on October 11, 2020, 12:04:37 PM

I only could see a summary of the match, but Nadal looked almost unbeatable. Djokovic was maybe not in top form, quite a lot of unforced errors in the 1st and 2nd set, but I think we can agree that Nadal deserved to win. With his win, he has now won 20 grand slams and equals the record of Federer.

it was actually not that bad in longer points, but there was a lot of easy mistakes at the beginning of points from Novak, and i think that was the deal breaker in first two sets, and in third Rafa started to miss some shots as well, but it was a lot to expect that Novak had hopes after first two sets

congrats to Rafa, this is obviously his tournament, could he get more in following years, that is the real question?

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I only could see a summary of the match, but Nadal looked almost unbeatable. Djokovic was maybe not in top form, quite a lot of unforced errors in the 1st and 2nd set, but I think we can agree that Nadal deserved to win. With his win, he has now won 20 grand slams and equals the record of Federer.

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Nadal just won roland garros in straight sets against djokovic.
He retains his title of being the king of clay.

I expected more of a fight from novak but I guess he wasn't in rhythm since the beginning of the match taking a 6-0 beating from rafa. Embarrassed

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The game has started and Nadal already break Djokovic serve, It's too early to say Nadal will win this match and lift the trophy for the 13th, just hope it will be an interesting match and tense for both fans and the bettors

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It will be Nadal vs Djokovic in the Finals, this is all we have been waiting for in the French Open this year. My boy Tsitsipas is nothing to be ashamed of his performance, he really push Djokovic to his limit, unfortunately it's not enough.

Can Djokovic stop Nadal? I think Nadal is more motivated to prove that he is still the king of clay against Djokovic.

We got the dreamfinal we were waiting for but I expect that Nadal will win. Maybe Djokovic can win 1 set but nothing more than that.

@1.62 ML on Nadal right now, what do you think guys? Worth to put a good bet on it?

Djokovic @2.25 but I think Nadal is really unstoppable in French Open and I'm thinking of going a substantial amount on him? Anyways, it is a dream match, but with Djokovic somewhat being reported with injury it could really affect his performance against Nadal in the finals.

Goodluck to all the bettors.

Nadal seems to be a much better bet but I personally would never write off Djokovic.
Yes, it looks like Djokovic is injured and is not fully focused on tennis at the moment but don’t forget that Nadal has only lost twice in this tournament.
Djokovic is just one of two tennis players in history who managed to beat Nadal and he knows the formula for winning and when it is most difficult for him, his spite often wakes up and he plays even better than anyone expects.

I already put a beat on him and again, and as I check the odds right now, it's @1.69. Yes, I know Djokovic won't simply handle the title to Nadal despite the said injury and he will try to fight hard. But I think Nadal is really hard to beat in his favourite clay and tournament, and with that said, I already bet the ML for Nadal. Not sure if I can watch the match live though, probably it's going to be intense on my side.

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https://sport.blic.rs/tenis/novak-djokovic-najnovije-vesti-otkazao-trening-polufinale-rolan-garosa/txhf3k9

could be sensational, but Djokovic has called-off this training practice yesterday, personally do not think that he will cancel the match in any case, but there was no press-conference and training yesterday

That is enough news for me to place small bet on Tsitsi on one of the bookies that grade forfeit as a regular bet. Always worth a shot. Wbet7 for instance considered match as regular if 1 game has been played. Have to check if that is still true. Some other bookies like Nitrogen grade it as regular if one set has been played. And some void the bet even if somebody forfeits two points from the end of the match.

I wasn't really able to find more sources to confirm this, but I also placed a (handicap) bet on Tsitsipas.

On the women side, I expect Kenin to win but Swiatek was impressive this French Open. What is a bit surprising to me, is that the bookies see Swiatek as the favorite (@1.55) ?!

Yeah because Swiatek beat all her opponents in two set matches even against the number 1 Halep.
So she is the favorite even though she hasn't won a title yet and kenin is the more experienced of the two in these tournaments.
But she is holding her own against the australian open champion of last year.

You were right, although very young and inexperienced, this girl is already very mature and psychologically very stable and she showed that in the final yesterday.
I don’t think anyone before the tournament seriously thought of Swiatek as someone who has a chance to win the tournament.
They are already comparing her to Monica Seles and predicting a great tennis future for her.
The funniest thing for me is that I read in one of her recent interviews that she’s not really sure yet if she wants to play tennis or do something else.
I hope that now she has decided to stay in tennis Grin

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Quote from: vella85 on October 10, 2020, 05:51:00 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 09, 2020, 11:24:09 PM

It will be Nadal vs Djokovic in the Finals, this is all we have been waiting for in the French Open this year. My boy Tsitsipas is nothing to be ashamed of his performance, he really push Djokovic to his limit, unfortunately it's not enough.

Can Djokovic stop Nadal? I think Nadal is more motivated to prove that he is still the king of clay against Djokovic.

As I mentioned in my post before the match, I said that we could see Tsitsipas push Djokovic and take a set or two off him which he did so I hope some got on this bet. I was really hoping that Tsitsipas would win but again when he has all the momentum going for him and looks like he could win the match he lets himself down with a poor 5th set. Anyway I think he will take a lot of experience out of this years French Open as he has shown us that he has improved a lot on clay and could be a danger for next years clay season.

Wasn't able to put a 2 set for Tsitsipas, but I know that odds are very attractive. He gave everything in the five set, but Djokovic was already in the zone that time. And as Tsitsipas said after the match, Djokovic is on another planet. But it's good to see him reaching as far as the semis, and yes, experience wise, he gain a ton with that lost to Djokovic and I'm sure he will comeback strong next year.

The odds for Nadal is now at 1.71, place a bet on him already money line is that attractive in my opinion. But I don't know why the swing from 1.6 to 1.7, hmm, maybe some whales put a big bet on Djokovic. 20 in 2020, that would made a good motivation for Nadal. So let's see, excited to watch the match as it will be evening in my timezone.

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