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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 15, 2020, 11:28:02 PM

-snip I’m not surprised to see more player’s withdrawing from the US open because according to US open rules if a player gets Covid then he’ll be dropped from the tournament, hence it makes sense why more player’s are withdrawing from the tournament.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/tennis/no-set-guidelines-for-calling-off-us-open-if-covid-outbreak/2020/08/07/8c940996-d8f2-11ea-a788-2ce86ce81129_story.html

I think this rule makes sense, because players who are gets Covid will be at risk to spread to the others if still playing, it is impossible for the player to use a mask, and players who are exposed to this virus will definitely experience decrease in stamina even though maybe not too much and will affect their performance.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 15, 2020, 11:06:24 PM

Quote from: babygun on August 14, 2020, 04:15:41 AM

Quote from: jademaxsuy on August 14, 2020, 01:53:23 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 13, 2020, 07:40:06 PM

That was the point I was trying to get across in a few posts ago, Thiem would be the top player on clay if Nadal was retired already as I don't see any other next gen as good as Thiem on clay and he has even challenged Nadal for the French Open the past 2 years but still isn't good enough to beat him at a grand slam but has beaten him in other clay tournaments. The thing is that the top three are legends and we'll most likely never see this again in our lifetime where three players are winning all the grand slams every year.

Yes Thiem is legend at present but in history of wins like he is second to Thomas Muster (world leading tennis player in his time). Win a grandslam and relatively achieve greater things than Thiem. But, I think that if Thiem will continue to achieve greater things like a grandslam championship then he can surpass Thomas Muster. In tennis court I am a fan of Thiem, this is why that everytime he plays I always watch. One of his great plays that i watch was Thiem vs. Jannik Sinner and it was a great final match won by Thiem.

Never heard of Thomas Muster before ? Calling Thiem a legend already is too soon. But he can certainly win a grandslam, especially on clay.
I agree with Vella, the era with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic winning grandslam after grandslam, is a once in a lifetime...

And yet another big name has pulled out of the US open: Andreescu (champion of 2019).

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/08/bianca-andreescu-wont-play-us-open-ensuring-two-new-singles-champs/90073/

And as we get closer to the date, it seems that more players are withdrawing from the said tournament. I try to check the draw, but it seems there's nothing yet as everything is not finalized. We don't know who are some of the seeded players entering and it could be interesting what will be the odds. It could be a very unpredictable US Open and it will be very difficult to bet on it.

I too believe that it’s too early to give Thiem a legendary player status, because while he’s a good player he’s yet not ready to be called an legend at least just yet, and I’ll only call him a legend once he starts defeating the top 3 on a consistent basis and wins many grand slams. @Yaunfitda I’m not surprised to see more player’s withdrawing from the US open because according to US open rules if a player gets Covid then he’ll be dropped from the tournament, hence it makes sense why more player’s are withdrawing from the tournament.

Source:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/tennis/no-set-guidelines-for-calling-off-us-open-if-covid-outbreak/2020/08/07/8c940996-d8f2-11ea-a788-2ce86ce81129_story.html

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Quote from: babygun on August 14, 2020, 04:15:41 AM

Quote from: jademaxsuy on August 14, 2020, 01:53:23 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 13, 2020, 07:40:06 PM

That was the point I was trying to get across in a few posts ago, Thiem would be the top player on clay if Nadal was retired already as I don't see any other next gen as good as Thiem on clay and he has even challenged Nadal for the French Open the past 2 years but still isn't good enough to beat him at a grand slam but has beaten him in other clay tournaments. The thing is that the top three are legends and we'll most likely never see this again in our lifetime where three players are winning all the grand slams every year.

Yes Thiem is legend at present but in history of wins like he is second to Thomas Muster (world leading tennis player in his time). Win a grandslam and relatively achieve greater things than Thiem. But, I think that if Thiem will continue to achieve greater things like a grandslam championship then he can surpass Thomas Muster. In tennis court I am a fan of Thiem, this is why that everytime he plays I always watch. One of his great plays that i watch was Thiem vs. Jannik Sinner and it was a great final match won by Thiem.

Never heard of Thomas Muster before ? Calling Thiem a legend already is too soon. But he can certainly win a grandslam, especially on clay.
I agree with Vella, the era with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic winning grandslam after grandslam, is a once in a lifetime...

And yet another big name has pulled out of the US open: Andreescu (champion of 2019).

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/08/bianca-andreescu-wont-play-us-open-ensuring-two-new-singles-champs/90073/

And as we get closer to the date, it seems that more players are withdrawing from the said tournament. I try to check the draw, but it seems there's nothing yet as everything is not finalized. We don't know who are some of the seeded players entering and it could be interesting what will be the odds. It could be a very unpredictable US Open and it will be very difficult to bet on it.

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Quote from: babygun on August 14, 2020, 04:15:41 AM

Quote from: jademaxsuy on August 14, 2020, 01:53:23 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 13, 2020, 07:40:06 PM

That was the point I was trying to get across in a few posts ago, Thiem would be the top player on clay if Nadal was retired already as I don't see any other next gen as good as Thiem on clay and he has even challenged Nadal for the French Open the past 2 years but still isn't good enough to beat him at a grand slam but has beaten him in other clay tournaments. The thing is that the top three are legends and we'll most likely never see this again in our lifetime where three players are winning all the grand slams every year.

Yes Thiem is legend at present but in history of wins like he is second to Thomas Muster (world leading tennis player in his time). Win a grandslam and relatively achieve greater things than Thiem. But, I think that if Thiem will continue to achieve greater things like a grandslam championship then he can surpass Thomas Muster. In tennis court I am a fan of Thiem, this is why that everytime he plays I always watch. One of his great plays that i watch was Thiem vs. Jannik Sinner and it was a great final match won by Thiem.

Never heard of Thomas Muster before ? Calling Thiem a legend already is too soon. But he can certainly win a grandslam, especially on clay.
I agree with Vella, the era with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic winning grandslam after grandslam, is a once in a lifetime...

And yet another big name has pulled out of the US open: Andreescu (champion of 2019).

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/08/bianca-andreescu-wont-play-us-open-ensuring-two-new-singles-champs/90073/

I think he is talking about Austrian Men's tennis players. Thomas Muster was a former number 1 and one of the greatest clay court players in his era which I believe was the 90's as I do remember him as the king of clay at the time. Thiem does have a long way to go to match Thomas Muster but in time I think he can as we have already seen what Thiem can do on clay courts.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on August 14, 2020, 01:53:23 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 13, 2020, 07:40:06 PM

That was the point I was trying to get across in a few posts ago, Thiem would be the top player on clay if Nadal was retired already as I don't see any other next gen as good as Thiem on clay and he has even challenged Nadal for the French Open the past 2 years but still isn't good enough to beat him at a grand slam but has beaten him in other clay tournaments. The thing is that the top three are legends and we'll most likely never see this again in our lifetime where three players are winning all the grand slams every year.

Yes Thiem is legend at present but in history of wins like he is second to Thomas Muster (world leading tennis player in his time). Win a grandslam and relatively achieve greater things than Thiem. But, I think that if Thiem will continue to achieve greater things like a grandslam championship then he can surpass Thomas Muster. In tennis court I am a fan of Thiem, this is why that everytime he plays I always watch. One of his great plays that i watch was Thiem vs. Jannik Sinner and it was a great final match won by Thiem.

Never heard of Thomas Muster before ? Calling Thiem a legend already is too soon. But he can certainly win a grandslam, especially on clay.
I agree with Vella, the era with Federer, Nadal and Djokovic winning grandslam after grandslam, is a once in a lifetime...

And yet another big name has pulled out of the US open: Andreescu (champion of 2019).

https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020/08/bianca-andreescu-wont-play-us-open-ensuring-two-new-singles-champs/90073/

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Quote from: vella85 on August 13, 2020, 07:40:06 PM

That was the point I was trying to get across in a few posts ago, Thiem would be the top player on clay if Nadal was retired already as I don't see any other next gen as good as Thiem on clay and he has even challenged Nadal for the French Open the past 2 years but still isn't good enough to beat him at a grand slam but has beaten him in other clay tournaments. The thing is that the top three are legends and we'll most likely never see this again in our lifetime where three players are winning all the grand slams every year.

Yes Thiem is legend at present but in history of wins like he is second to Thomas Muster (world leading tennis player in his time). Win a grandslam and relatively achieve greater things than Thiem. But, I think that if Thiem will continue to achieve greater things like a grandslam championship then he can surpass Thomas Muster. In tennis court I am a fan of Thiem, this is why that everytime he plays I always watch. One of his great plays that i watch was Thiem vs. Jannik Sinner and it was a great final match won by Thiem.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 12, 2020, 05:54:32 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 11, 2020, 07:54:01 PM

As we have been seeing most perform well at the start of the year but they fade away at the end and some perform poor at the start and come good at the back end of the year like we saw with Medvedev last year. We can see the talent they all have, they just need to be able to win against the top three in grand slam finals. Like I said anyone can go back and see that I'm a big fan of Thiem, I've even had several bets on him to win the French Open for the last 2 years before it started because I believe he will be the next great clay court player once Nadal retires.

agree for Thiem, think that he will be great on clay, and he would be now, if there is no Nadal, what is the issue there is that Thiem is also not getting any younger, and he is not a talent anymore, in his age Nadal was already crowned "clay king"
regarding Medvedev and other players, IMO, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are not that great, it is more that competition is really bad, so these three shine out, just look at some side-players that hanged out in top 10 for several years, without being called great, for example Berdych, Tsonga, Del-Porto, would you call them great as well, and some of them even managed to win grand-slams when top 3 where at their best

That was the point I was trying to get across in a few posts ago, Thiem would be the top player on clay if Nadal was retired already as I don't see any other next gen as good as Thiem on clay and he has even challenged Nadal for the French Open the past 2 years but still isn't good enough to beat him at a grand slam but has beaten him in other clay tournaments. The thing is that the top three are legends and we'll most likely never see this again in our lifetime where three players are winning all the grand slams every year.

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Quote from: babygun on August 12, 2020, 05:42:47 AM

When the big 3 retires, I think we will see a lot of different grand slam winners. There is, at this moment, not one of the young generation that really stands out.

Some other players have pulled out of the US open: Koeznetsova, Svitolina, Strycova and Bertens
https://tennishead.net/i-refuse-to-play-us-open-loses-another-former-champion-from-draw-as-coronavirus-concerns-continue/

But at least we need to see them not winning any of the Grand Slams before they can retire. But as of the moment, no one can stop them in big tournaments and their game are not changing at all. And before

Roger became the legend that he is, he beat Sampras and Agassi before him. And that's why it's obvious that Sampras and Agassi can't pull the trigger anymore, and then they retire. And with the current generations of tennis players, no one can really step up and give the big 3 a run for their money and send message that they are old enough or should retire.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 12, 2020, 05:54:32 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 11, 2020, 07:54:01 PM

As we have been seeing most perform well at the start of the year but they fade away at the end and some perform poor at the start and come good at the back end of the year like we saw with Medvedev last year. We can see the talent they all have, they just need to be able to win against the top three in grand slam finals. Like I said anyone can go back and see that I'm a big fan of Thiem, I've even had several bets on him to win the French Open for the last 2 years before it started because I believe he will be the next great clay court player once Nadal retires.

agree for Thiem, think that he will be great on clay, and he would be now, if there is no Nadal, what is the issue there is that Thiem is also not getting any younger, and he is not a talent anymore, in his age Nadal was already crowned "clay king"
regarding Medvedev and other players, IMO, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are not that great, it is more that competition is really bad, so these three shine out, just look at some side-players that hanged out in top 10 for several years, without being called great, for example Berdych, Tsonga, Del-Porto, would you call them great as well, and some of them even managed to win grand-slams when top 3 where at their best

I'd not say tennis has became less competitive. There are still much newer talents coming every year. Tennis was for some times dominated by a single player but at the moment, it's not that. Though the game has became more technical and players are receiving coaching and training according to their opponents. All three of them Federer, Djokovic and Nadal has been improving their games with every passing year.

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Quote from: vella85 on August 11, 2020, 07:54:01 PM

As we have been seeing most perform well at the start of the year but they fade away at the end and some perform poor at the start and come good at the back end of the year like we saw with Medvedev last year. We can see the talent they all have, they just need to be able to win against the top three in grand slam finals. Like I said anyone can go back and see that I'm a big fan of Thiem, I've even had several bets on him to win the French Open for the last 2 years before it started because I believe he will be the next great clay court player once Nadal retires.

agree for Thiem, think that he will be great on clay, and he would be now, if there is no Nadal, what is the issue there is that Thiem is also not getting any younger, and he is not a talent anymore, in his age Nadal was already crowned "clay king"
regarding Medvedev and other players, IMO, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are not that great, it is more that competition is really bad, so these three shine out, just look at some side-players that hanged out in top 10 for several years, without being called great, for example Berdych, Tsonga, Del-Porto, would you call them great as well, and some of them even managed to win grand-slams when top 3 where at their best

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Quote from: babygun on August 12, 2020, 05:42:47 AM

When the big 3 retires, I think we will see a lot of different grand slam winners. There is, at this moment, not one of the young generation that really stands out.

Some other players have pulled out of the US open: Koeznetsova, Svitolina, Strycova and Bertens
https://tennishead.net/i-refuse-to-play-us-open-loses-another-former-champion-from-draw-as-coronavirus-concerns-continue/

Yea this is case then surely we will have this all like happening in WTA every time new winner in Grand Slam and no consistency from any player right now just Medvedev is player who is doing some good others have many issues and problems other then tennis I was very happy about Nick Kyrgios but his attitude hurt him too much even age factor is still with him but he is not going to rule in next few years.

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When the big 3 retires, I think we will see a lot of different grand slam winners. There is, at this moment, not one of the young generation that really stands out.

Some other players have pulled out of the US open: Koeznetsova, Svitolina, Strycova and Bertens
https://tennishead.net/i-refuse-to-play-us-open-loses-another-former-champion-from-draw-as-coronavirus-concerns-continue/

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 10, 2020, 07:55:17 PM

Quote from: vella85 on August 08, 2020, 07:26:16 PM

Quote from: Juggy777 on August 07, 2020, 12:14:28 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 06, 2020, 07:20:02 PM

Quote from: babygun on August 06, 2020, 07:28:26 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 06, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

In my opinion they should be winning now as most are at the age where Federer, Nadal and Djokovic started winning grand slams however I think this time round is because we have most likely seen the best three players ever in Men's tennis which makes it very hard to see the next gen win grand slams. In the previous gen the top players were Sampras, Agassi, Hewitt and Safin but they were not as good as the top three we see now. So that is why we don't see the next gen winning grand slams at the moment, maybe until one or two of the top three retire.

@vella85 in my personal opinion it’s unfair to compare these player’s with the top three, because it adds unnecessary pressure on them to perform. Also I believe that most of these young player’s have now matured, and it’s only a matter of a year or two before they start making a name for themselves, but even then I would not like to compare them as each player is different and we should respect their uniqueness.

I'm not comparing players but generations because I believe that if these same young players were around before the top three we have now they would be winning. The top three we have now are legends of the game which is why when the next gen come up against them in grand slam finals they don't have the mentality to win. I have been and continue to be a huge supporter for the next gen as if anyone goes back and reads my posts I have always supported them more so Thiem as I think he has what it takes to be a great player and has performed well against Nadal in the past. Lets be honest they are professional players so there is always going to be pressure put on them and I don't think any one of them comes here to read what I have to say anyway lol.

There's always been a lot of pressures for any sports, and I think that one that will heavily affect them is sports media and fans. But majority of them can readily play above and beyond those pressures unless there are serious allegations or even scandals like what happen to Tiger Woods, which really ruins his career.

I know mate, we have a lot of discussions about who is going to be the next gen, and Thiem and Medvedev, and of course my boy Tsitsipas always come into the discussions. They just need to have that mentality and to be consistent and put more focus on winning.

I agree, its more so the media that can effect players and it can for years but the ones that have a strong mentality can rise above it like we have seen in the past.

Yes we have had many discussions about the young talent coming through, we just like to see them perform consistently which is what lets them down a lot of the time. As we have been seeing most perform well at the start of the year but they fade away at the end and some perform poor at the start and come good at the back end of the year like we saw with Medvedev last year. We can see the talent they all have, they just need to be able to win against the top three in grand slam finals. Like I said anyone can go back and see that I'm a big fan of Thiem, I've even had several bets on him to win the French Open for the last 2 years before it started because I believe he will be the next great clay court player once Nadal retires.

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Quote from: vella85 on August 08, 2020, 07:26:16 PM

Quote from: Juggy777 on August 07, 2020, 12:14:28 AM

Quote from: vella85 on August 06, 2020, 07:20:02 PM

Quote from: babygun on August 06, 2020, 07:28:26 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 06, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

In my opinion they should be winning now as most are at the age where Federer, Nadal and Djokovic started winning grand slams however I think this time round is because we have most likely seen the best three players ever in Men's tennis which makes it very hard to see the next gen win grand slams. In the previous gen the top players were Sampras, Agassi, Hewitt and Safin but they were not as good as the top three we see now. So that is why we don't see the next gen winning grand slams at the moment, maybe until one or two of the top three retire.

@vella85 in my personal opinion it’s unfair to compare these player’s with the top three, because it adds unnecessary pressure on them to perform. Also I believe that most of these young player’s have now matured, and it’s only a matter of a year or two before they start making a name for themselves, but even then I would not like to compare them as each player is different and we should respect their uniqueness.

I'm not comparing players but generations because I believe that if these same young players were around before the top three we have now they would be winning. The top three we have now are legends of the game which is why when the next gen come up against them in grand slam finals they don't have the mentality to win. I have been and continue to be a huge supporter for the next gen as if anyone goes back and reads my posts I have always supported them more so Thiem as I think he has what it takes to be a great player and has performed well against Nadal in the past. Lets be honest they are professional players so there is always going to be pressure put on them and I don't think any one of them comes here to read what I have to say anyway lol.

There's always been a lot of pressures for any sports, and I think that one that will heavily affect them is sports media and fans. But majority of them can readily play above and beyond those pressures unless there are serious allegations or even scandals like what happen to Tiger Woods, which really ruins his career.

I know mate, we have a lot of discussions about who is going to be the next gen, and Thiem and Medvedev, and of course my boy Tsitsipas always come into the discussions. They just need to have that mentality and to be consistent and put more focus on winning.

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Quote from: vella85 on August 06, 2020, 07:20:02 PM

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 06, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

In my opinion they should be winning now as most are at the age where Federer, Nadal and Djokovic started winning grand slams however I think this time round is because we have most likely seen the best three players ever in Men's tennis which makes it very hard to see the next gen win grand slams. In the previous gen the top players were Sampras, Agassi, Hewitt and Safin but they were not as good as the top three we see now. So that is why we don't see the next gen winning grand slams at the moment, maybe until one or two of the top three retire.

@vella85 in my personal opinion it’s unfair to compare these player’s with the top three, because it adds unnecessary pressure on them to perform. Also I believe that most of these young player’s have now matured, and it’s only a matter of a year or two before they start making a name for themselves, but even then I would not like to compare them as each player is different and we should respect their uniqueness.

I'm not comparing players but generations because I believe that if these same young players were around before the top three we have now they would be winning. The top three we have now are legends of the game which is why when the next gen come up against them in grand slam finals they don't have the mentality to win. I have been and continue to be a huge supporter for the next gen as if anyone goes back and reads my posts I have always supported them more so Thiem as I think he has what it takes to be a great player and has performed well against Nadal in the past. Lets be honest they are professional players so there is always going to be pressure put on them and I don't think any one of them comes here to read what I have to say anyway lol.

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Quote from: vella85 on August 06, 2020, 07:20:02 PM

Quote from: babygun on August 06, 2020, 07:28:26 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 06, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

In my opinion they should be winning now as most are at the age where Federer, Nadal and Djokovic started winning grand slams however I think this time round is because we have most likely seen the best three players ever in Men's tennis which makes it very hard to see the next gen win grand slams. In the previous gen the top players were Sampras, Agassi, Hewitt and Safin but they were not as good as the top three we see now. So that is why we don't see the next gen winning grand slams at the moment, maybe until one or two of the top three retire.

It's different era, we can't compare their greatness against the current generations of players. However, the thing with the big 3 is that they are really dominating , in the last decade or so and there's no one, not even one name that comes to my mind to break that.

We have a lot of young tennis players, who are really that good and has the potential, but it seems that unless any one of the three retire, there won't be someone who are going to step and replace or even retire them for good.

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

In my opinion they should be winning now as most are at the age where Federer, Nadal and Djokovic started winning grand slams however I think this time round is because we have most likely seen the best three players ever in Men's tennis which makes it very hard to see the next gen win grand slams. In the previous gen the top players were Sampras, Agassi, Hewitt and Safin but they were not as good as the top three we see now. So that is why we don't see the next gen winning grand slams at the moment, maybe until one or two of the top three retire.

@vella85 in my personal opinion it’s unfair to compare these player’s with the top three, because it adds unnecessary pressure on them to perform. Also I believe that most of these young player’s have now matured, and it’s only a matter of a year or two before they start making a name for themselves, but even then I would not like to compare them as each player is different and we should respect their uniqueness.

This is good point now comparing youngs to with Legendary is not good idea because every person is not going with same balance we have to give some apperciation to these youngsters as they can do some more good in near future but Legendaries have their own room they was also like these but after some hard work and consistancy they achieve this all now these youngsters also can do this all.

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Quote from: vella85 on August 06, 2020, 07:20:02 PM

Quote from: babygun on August 06, 2020, 07:28:26 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 06, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

In my opinion they should be winning now as most are at the age where Federer, Nadal and Djokovic started winning grand slams however I think this time round is because we have most likely seen the best three players ever in Men's tennis which makes it very hard to see the next gen win grand slams. In the previous gen the top players were Sampras, Agassi, Hewitt and Safin but they were not as good as the top three we see now. So that is why we don't see the next gen winning grand slams at the moment, maybe until one or two of the top three retire.

@vella85 in my personal opinion it’s unfair to compare these player’s with the top three, because it adds unnecessary pressure on them to perform. Also I believe that most of these young player’s have now matured, and it’s only a matter of a year or two before they start making a name for themselves, but even then I would not like to compare them as each player is different and we should respect their uniqueness.

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Quote from: babygun on August 06, 2020, 07:28:26 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on August 06, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

In my opinion they should be winning now as most are at the age where Federer, Nadal and Djokovic started winning grand slams however I think this time round is because we have most likely seen the best three players ever in Men's tennis which makes it very hard to see the next gen win grand slams. In the previous gen the top players were Sampras, Agassi, Hewitt and Safin but they were not as good as the top three we see now. So that is why we don't see the next gen winning grand slams at the moment, maybe until one or two of the top three retire.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 06, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

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I agree with you.
Players of that new generation, such as Medvedev, Thiem and Zverev are very good but they always lack something to win the biggest matches at GS.
Lack of experience, or they can't stand pressure, who knows but they are still not on the same level with the biggest players.

I can agree that Djokovic has the biggest chance to win the US open also because the tournament will be held behind closed doors. This is in the advantage of Djokovic as the public will not cheer for him.
But these new generation players are getting closer and closer every year. Look at the US Open final of last year, there Medvedev really came close in winning the title.

None of these new generation players will probably become the next Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but I do expect them to start winning major tournaments from time to time.

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