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I totally agree with both of you, the sad part is we all can see the potential he has to be a top player but he just isn't mentally right. I'm worried that it could be too late once he gets his mind straight and focused on tennis as there are other young guys coming through the ranks which look good. Kyrgios still has time on he's side to get himself sorted out before its too late, it must be within the next year though or he's chance could be gone like Tomic.

I read some articles saying that Nick's favorite sports is actually not Tennis but Basketball. And I have this hunch that is the reason why he didn't f***ing care whether winning or losing in the court. He didn't have that passion, and it looks like he is was going to the motions and just playing for the sake of making money that's why he disregarded everything related to tennis, the umpire, the audience and specially his opponent on the opposite side of the court. I'm glad you mentioned Tomic, they have this similar "bad boy" image and now it seems that Tomic can't recover from that stigma and seems to be on the downward spiral as opposed to be playing his best tennis at his peak age of 25 or 26.

“All I do is count my millions – you try doing what I do!” - LOL, he totally snapped once he was question by the media.

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I agree with what you say about Tsitsipas and that is I asked about him playing on grass. He does have the right body to play on grass but I guess he just needs to start playing more grass tournaments. Wimbledon will be an interesting tournament this year to see if any of the young talent can reach the finals and maybe even challenge the top players at winning it all. I'll see how the young talent play in the lead up tournaments before placing my bets. I agree with Kyrgios but he is a very good grass court player, that is why I mentioned him.

Kyrgios is special kind of player. When he gets in the grove and everything is going as he thinks it should, he is easily top 5. The problem is his game plan when result isn't in his favor. I watched him many times when he played 2nd serve as first. It is normal for him to strike 3 aces and make 2 double faults in the same game and ends the match with more than 30 aces and often more than 10 double faults. It is very rarely that you see a player which has too much belief in his shots. And that is if we forget all the times he just doesn't feel like playing and starts arguing with half the audience and looses easily against players outside top 100.

Correct, when he is on the zone, Nick is very hard to stop. He really has a lot of potential to be one of the best, but most of the time when the shots is not falling he has someone to play, himself, the umpire the audience and obviously his bad attitude comes into place. If he could just muster that mentality to focus about the game and not the people around him then easily top 5 for me.

I totally agree with both of you, the sad part is we all can see the potential he has to be a top player but he just isn't mentally right. I'm worried that it could be too late once he gets his mind straight and focused on tennis as there are other young guys coming through the ranks which look good. Kyrgios still has time on he's side to get himself sorted out before its too late, it must be within the next year though or he's chance could be gone like Tomic.

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I don't know if any of you seen it, but there is really funny (in retrospective) interview with young Nadal circulating around the web. He said that he doesn't really like clay and prefers to play on grass or hard surface. I'll put a link to it later when I get home if I manage to find it again.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 11, 2019, 08:21:07 AM

Ok here a thing with Stefanos, I think he mostly concentrated of clay court tournaments, but his game is more suited for grass. So for me he needed to shift this game and focus more on grass court tournaments as I believed he can win and can dominate it in the next two years. I haven't check the odds but definitely will put some bets on him. Love to see him against Federer again.

playing tennis on grass requires a certain experience and Stefanos doesn't have it now. he needs to play more tournaments on grass. now he has no chances with Federer on grass.

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Quote from: vella85 on June 13, 2019, 05:23:58 PM

I agree with what you say about Tsitsipas and that is I asked about him playing on grass. He does have the right body to play on grass but I guess he just needs to start playing more grass tournaments. Wimbledon will be an interesting tournament this year to see if any of the young talent can reach the finals and maybe even challenge the top players at winning it all. I'll see how the young talent play in the lead up tournaments before placing my bets. I agree with Kyrgios but he is a very good grass court player, that is why I mentioned him.

Kyrgios is special kind of player. When he gets in the grove and everything is going as he thinks it should, he is easily top 5. The problem is his game plan when result isn't in his favor. I watched him many times when he played 2nd serve as first. It is normal for him to strike 3 aces and make 2 double faults in the same game and ends the match with more than 30 aces and often more than 10 double faults. It is very rarely that you see a player which has too much belief in his shots. And that is if we forget all the times he just doesn't feel like playing and starts arguing with half the audience and looses easily against players outside top 100.

Correct, when he is on the zone, Nick is very hard to stop. He really has a lot of potential to be one of the best, but most of the time when the shots is not falling he has someone to play, himself, the umpire the audience and obviously his bad attitude comes into place. If he could just muster that mentality to focus about the game and not the people around him then easily top 5 for me.

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Quote from: vella85 on June 13, 2019, 05:23:58 PM

I agree with what you say about Tsitsipas and that is I asked about him playing on grass. He does have the right body to play on grass but I guess he just needs to start playing more grass tournaments. Wimbledon will be an interesting tournament this year to see if any of the young talent can reach the finals and maybe even challenge the top players at winning it all. I'll see how the young talent play in the lead up tournaments before placing my bets. I agree with Kyrgios but he is a very good grass court player, that is why I mentioned him.

Kyrgios is special kind of player. When he gets in the grove and everything is going as he thinks it should, he is easily top 5. The problem is his game plan when result isn't in his favor. I watched him many times when he played 2nd serve as first. It is normal for him to strike 3 aces and make 2 double faults in the same game and ends the match with more than 30 aces and often more than 10 double faults. It is very rarely that you see a player which has too much belief in his shots. And that is if we forget all the times he just doesn't feel like playing and starts arguing with half the audience and looses easily against players outside top 100.

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Quote from: tsaroz on June 10, 2019, 08:46:52 AM

Nadal has only won 2 wimbeldon titles in his career while Federer had done it 4 times and Djokovic thrice.

Federer has won it like eight times already and not just four. It is his favorite surface and tournament so I expect him to make it to the semi-finals atleast. Fast courts does not really suite Nadal's playing style and he'll probably be out by quarterfinals. Djokovic is playing well so I won't be surprise if he reaches the finals again.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 11, 2019, 08:21:07 AM

Ok here a thing with Stefanos, I think he mostly concentrated of clay court tournaments, but his game is more suited for grass. So for me he needed to shift this game and focus more on grass court tournaments as I believed he can win and can dominate it in the next two years. I haven't check the odds but definitely will put some bets on him. Love to see him against Federer again.

I just checked Tsitipas history on grass and it looks very poor. The history quoted is from tennisexplorer page. It seems to me he looses the match on the grass as soon as he faces a solid grass player. I will skip betting on him at least in the beginning and give myself some time to judge if improved his grass game. I am not so sure that his game is suited for grass. Grass is all about the balls staying close to the surface (taking the time from your opponent) and Tsitipas often uses top spin ground strokes which rebound over the opponent shoulder thus making it harder to hit.

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Wimbledon    Round    Result    H    A
09.07.         Isner J. - Tsitsipas S.    R16    6-4, 7-68, 7-64    1.49    2.63
06.07.         Tsitsipas S. - Fabbiano T.    3R    6-2, 6-1, 6-4    1.39    2.99
05.07.         Tsitsipas S. - Donaldson J.    2R    6-3, 6-2, 3-6, 4-6, 6-3    1.62    2.29
02.07.         Tsitsipas S. - Barrere G.    1R    6-3, 6-4, 63-7, 7-5    1.22    4.31
Boodles Tennis Challenge    Round    Result    H    A
29.06.         Tsitsipas S. - Ward J.         7-5, 6-1    1.38    2.90
28.06.         Fritz T. - Tsitsipas S.         7-5, 6-3    1.94    1.81
26.06.         Dimitrov G. - Tsitsipas S.         7-64, 6-1    1.55    2.34
Halle    Round    Result    H    A
20.06.         Kudla D. - Tsitsipas S.    R16    6-3, 6-4    2.33    1.58
19.06.         Tsitsipas S. - Pouille L.    1R    6-2, 7-63    2.43    1.54
Hertogenbosch    Round    Result    H    A
15.06.         Gasquet R. - Tsitsipas S.    QF    7-62, 7-64    1.37    3.04
14.06.         Tsitsipas S. - Jaziri M.    R16    4-6, 7-66, 6-2    1.46    2.67
12.06.         Tsitsipas S. - Smith J.    1R    3-6, 6-3, 6-4    1.27    3.70

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Nadal has once again showed that he is the best player ever on clay by beating Thiem in four sets. At times Thiem looked to be in the match and maybe even push Nadal to five sets after winning the second set but it wasn't to be as Nadal won the third and fourth set easy without much of a fight from Thiem. I was close once again to winning my French Open bet on Thiem but Nadal is just too good on clay when it comes to this Grand Slam. Congrats to Nadal on winning he's 12th French Open title. I also read a report that Nadal won't play any lead up tournaments before Wimbledon as he wants to rest up which could be a wise decision.

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Yeah I thought the same with Thiem but it wasn't to be, beating Djokovic gave him confidence however its when he makes major finals he seems to lose. That is something he has to work on in the coming months, I won't be betting on him to win Wimbledon as he isn't as good on grass courts. How is Stefanos Tsitsipas on grass courts? as he is someone I'm considering betting on to win Wimbledon.

Ok here a thing with Stefanos, I think he mostly concentrated of clay court tournaments, but his game is more suited for grass. So for me he needed to shift this game and focus more on grass court tournaments as I believed he can win and can dominate it in the next two years. I haven't check the odds but definitely will put some bets on him. Love to see him against Federer again.

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Nadal has once again showed that he is the best player ever on clay by beating Thiem in four sets. At times Thiem looked to be in the match and maybe even push Nadal to five sets after winning the second set but it wasn't to be as Nadal won the third and fourth set easy without much of a fight from Thiem. I was close once again to winning my French Open bet on Thiem but Nadal is just too good on clay when it comes to this Grand Slam. Congrats to Nadal on winning he's 12th French Open title. I also read a report that Nadal won't play any lead up tournaments before Wimbledon as he wants to rest up which could be a wise decision.

Yup, it's a repeat for both of them. I thought that Thiem will really push Nadal because he has gained a lot of experienced specially betting Djokovic in the semis. But I guess Nadal is really above the competition as far as clay court is concern. That's good though if he is going to have a full rest leading to Wimbledon. I mean those guys are really 'old', needed their body to heal before heading in a big tournament such as Wimbledon. But it's going to be different, Djokovic, Federer is good as this surface so let's see how Nadal will prepare himself.

Yeah I thought the same with Thiem but it wasn't to be, beating Djokovic gave him confidence however its when he makes major finals he seems to lose. That is something he has to work on in the coming months, I won't be betting on him to win Wimbledon as he isn't as good on grass courts. How is Stefanos Tsitsipas on grass courts? as he is someone I'm considering betting on to win Wimbledon.

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Quote from: tsaroz on June 10, 2019, 08:46:52 AM

Nadal is definetly the king for clay courts. He have won 12 of last 15 French open titles.
On comparison, non of him contemporary players had won it twice.
But when it comes to grass court, things gets different. Nadal has only won 2 wimbeldon titles in his career while Federer had done it 4 times and Djokovic thrice.

but this year the start of the clay court season wasn't good for Nadal. and frankly speaking the draw for Nadal at the French open was easy.

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Quote from: tsaroz on June 10, 2019, 08:46:52 AM

Nadal is definetly the king for clay courts. He have won 12 of last 15 French open titles.
On comparison, non of him contemporary players had won it twice.
But when it comes to grass court, things gets different. Nadal has only won 2 wimbeldon titles in his career while Federer had done it 4 times and Djokovic thrice.

I was wondering to see the odds for Federer in the semi, I even lost a good amount of money in the semi since I was gambling for Federer. Now it make sense that bookies were considering Nadal's expertise in the clay court. So, in the Winbeldon if Federer plays then he has a good chance to do better?

Federer will play Wimbledon for sure. That is his favorite surface and favorite tournament. I believe the bookies will make him the top favorite for this one. This could still change depending on results in tournaments leading Wimbledon.

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Quote from: tsaroz on June 10, 2019, 08:46:52 AM

Nadal is definetly the king for clay courts. He have won 12 of last 15 French open titles.
On comparison, non of him contemporary players had won it twice.
But when it comes to grass court, things gets different. Nadal has only won 2 wimbeldon titles in his career while Federer had done it 4 times and Djokovic thrice.

I was wondering to see the odds for Federer in the semi, I even lost a good amount of money in the semi since I was gambling for Federer. Now it make sense that bookies were considering Nadal's expertise in the clay court. So, in the Winbeldon if Federer plays then he has a good chance to do better?

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Nadal is definetly the king for clay courts. He have won 12 of last 15 French open titles.
On comparison, non of him contemporary players had won it twice.
But when it comes to grass court, things gets different. Nadal has only won 2 wimbeldon titles in his career while Federer had done it 4 times and Djokovic thrice.

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Quote from: vella85 on June 09, 2019, 05:25:15 PM

Nadal has once again showed that he is the best player ever on clay by beating Thiem in four sets. At times Thiem looked to be in the match and maybe even push Nadal to five sets after winning the second set but it wasn't to be as Nadal won the third and fourth set easy without much of a fight from Thiem. I was close once again to winning my French Open bet on Thiem but Nadal is just too good on clay when it comes to this Grand Slam. Congrats to Nadal on winning he's 12th French Open title. I also read a report that Nadal won't play any lead up tournaments before Wimbledon as he wants to rest up which could be a wise decision.

Yup, it's a repeat for both of them. I thought that Thiem will really push Nadal because he has gained a lot of experienced specially betting Djokovic in the semis. But I guess Nadal is really above the competition as far as clay court is concern. That's good though if he is going to have a full rest leading to Wimbledon. I mean those guys are really 'old', needed their body to heal before heading in a big tournament such as Wimbledon. But it's going to be different, Djokovic, Federer is good as this surface so let's see how Nadal will prepare himself.

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