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July 17, 2023, 12:47:39 PM
What I'm curious to see now is if there's anybody else that can even challenge them anymore. Medvedev should be able to do on hard, at least in theory.

On Wimbledon both Đoković and Alcaraz lost only 2 sets until the final, on RG they lost 1 set each before their semifinal duel and the winner (Đoković) won in straight sets against Ruud in the final.
On Australian Open Đoković lost only 1 set, Alcaraz did not play due to injury.

This just shows how dominant they are, and how even more dominant Alcaraz will be when Novak retires.

Interesting cryptofrka, who indeed joins Alcaraz at the top? will there be another
TOP 3. True maybe Medvedev can be more consistent on hard courts and string more
wins together but who else?

Rune, Ruud, Sinner, Berrettini?

I think with Djokovic' loss yesterday its definitely a changing of the Guard, there are
more and more competitors on clay, Alcaraz, Rune, and Ruud, on Hard Alcaraz and Medvedev
and now on Grass Alcaraz and Berrettini.
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July 17, 2023, 11:06:12 AM
As Novak Djokovic won first set I was really shocked and then have feeling most chances he will win this match by big margin and straight sets but after two sets things were looking fascinating, but Alcaraz's fight in third set completely change the momentum and things were at level for the both players but in last and fifth set we have early breakthrough which helps Alcaraz to win this historic event and Novak Djokovic have his first defeat in years.
This was fairly one of the best match while we have two top class players in our front in tennis court, and they were giving their best for the win now with this win we have big change in tennis future because big three eras is almost ended now who is going to rule it's surely interesting.
We watched a really great match that will be talked about for years, a tennis classic.
In the past, Djokovic won a lot of such uncertain matches, but this time he failed to win.
Djokovic had at least two great chances to turn this match in his favor, at the end of the second set when he had a set point and at the beginning of the fifth set when he also missed a big chance to lead 2:0.
Alcaraz played fantastically and concentrated until the end and should be congratulated.
I wonder if we are witnessing history, the slow retirement of a great tennis champion and the arrival of a new tennis champion who could come close to Djokovic's records?

Regardless of who won the match, this match between Alcatraz and Djokovic was absolutely incredible. A test of temperament for both of the players.

First of all, I have to say, it is incredible to see Novak Djokovic from like this, even at this age, especially against a player who is much younger. Almost half of his age to be honest. Players who are actually older, are always going to get my support personally. Because at the age of 18, you can break your leg and still walk. People at 18 in general can actually get a sixpack by mistake. But at the age of 36, the body of a human can hurt a lot by even sleeping funny for a long time. And at the age of 36, Novak, Djokovic is still one of the best players in tennis, if not the best.
legendary
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July 17, 2023, 10:43:15 AM
Novak Djokovic and Alcaraz's match has concluded with a surprising twist. My expectations of a fiercely contested and captivating battle were not misguided. This showdown had all the ingredients for an enthralling spectacle. Ultimately, Álvarez Garfield emerged victorious. Although both players put up a strong fight in the fifth set, ultimately, there could only be one triumphant player in this fiercely competitive contest. Novak Djokovic has a chance, I thought after the first set. But Alcaraz Garfia, number one in the whole world, showed why there is a reason.
As Novak Djokovic won first set I was really shocked and then have feeling most chances he will win this match by big margin and straight sets but after two sets things were looking fascinating, but Alcaraz's fight in third set completely change the momentum and things were at level for the both players but in last and fifth set we have early breakthrough which helps Alcaraz to win this historic event and Novak Djokovic have his first defeat in years.
 
This was fairly one of the best match while we have two top class players in our front in tennis court, and they were giving their best for the win now with this win we have big change in tennis future because big three eras is almost ended now who is going to rule it's surely interesting.

We watched a really great match that will be talked about for years, a tennis classic.
In the past, Djokovic won a lot of such uncertain matches, but this time he failed to win.
Djokovic had at least two great chances to turn this match in his favor, at the end of the second set when he had a set point and at the beginning of the fifth set when he also missed a big chance to lead 2:0.
Alcaraz played fantastically and concentrated until the end and should be congratulated.
I wonder if we are witnessing history, the slow retirement of a great tennis champion and the arrival of a new tennis champion who could come close to Djokovic's records?
legendary
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July 17, 2023, 06:48:05 AM
Novak Djokovic and Alcaraz's match has concluded with a surprising twist. My expectations of a fiercely contested and captivating battle were not misguided. This showdown had all the ingredients for an enthralling spectacle. Ultimately, Álvarez Garfield emerged victorious. Although both players put up a strong fight in the fifth set, ultimately, there could only be one triumphant player in this fiercely competitive contest. Novak Djokovic has a chance, I thought after the first set. But Alcaraz Garfia, number one in the whole world, showed why there is a reason.
As Novak Djokovic won first set I was really shocked and then have feeling most chances he will win this match by big margin and straight sets but after two sets things were looking fascinating, but Alcaraz's fight in third set completely change the momentum and things were at level for the both players but in last and fifth set we have early breakthrough which helps Alcaraz to win this historic event and Novak Djokovic have his first defeat in years.
 
This was fairly one of the best match while we have two top class players in our front in tennis court, and they were giving their best for the win now with this win we have big change in tennis future because big three eras is almost ended now who is going to rule it's surely interesting.
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July 17, 2023, 04:44:56 AM
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This just shows how dominant they are, and how even more dominant Alcaraz will be when Novak retires.

this is probably what driver Novak at the moment
with current competition, Alcaraz can easy have full domination and put all 3 current GOAT players in second plan

expected to see Novak winning yesterday, but it was kind of worst defeat, on a way he usually wins matches, first fifth set lost on Wimbledon for Novak, of I remember well

and lost chance on all slams in one season
legendary
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July 17, 2023, 04:18:30 AM
yesterday's the final match was "something new" it's clear that it was a sort of passing of the "baton" between the two Wink players ... Alcaraz is now solidly number 1 in the world and has demonstrated to be able to beat anyone.

Djokovic remains a very strong player, who made history, unfortunately I think age has the effect Sad

Yeah, I think it's clear by now, Djokovic is the only one remaining of the big 4 and we have seen that he continue to dominates even without his rivals. But now a new player has taken notice in the last 2 years.

Although when I watch the game, I thought that Djokovic is going to win. However, the 2nd was the key for the young Alcaraz as he was able to get back and gather momentum. He could really be the new Rafa Nadal.
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July 17, 2023, 02:37:58 AM
What I'm curious to see now is if there's anybody else that can even challenge them anymore. Medvedev should be able to do on hard, at least in theory.

On Wimbledon both Đoković and Alcaraz lost only 2 sets until the final, on RG they lost 1 set each before their semifinal duel and the winner (Đoković) won in straight sets against Ruud in the final.
On Australian Open Đoković lost only 1 set, Alcaraz did not play due to injury.

This just shows how dominant they are, and how even more dominant Alcaraz will be when Novak retires.
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July 17, 2023, 01:12:36 AM
yesterday's the final match was "something new" it's clear that it was a sort of passing of the "baton" between the two Wink players ... Alcaraz is now solidly number 1 in the world and has demonstrated to be able to beat anyone.

Djokovic remains a very strong player, who made history, unfortunately I think age has the effect Sad
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July 17, 2023, 01:07:33 AM
It was a very interesting match, easy first win for Djokovic, Alcaraz comes back to win the
next 2 sets with a 19 minute game thrown into the mix, Djokovic comes back to take the
fourth to go the full distance, just like a true champion.

Djokovic REALLY wanted this one for many reasons, its all about records at this stage for him,
and he let his frustrations and emotions out.

Really great win from Alcaraz, winners mentality to never give up until its over.
This was a great miss for Djokovic. The win is marked as the beginning of new era.
Since 2002 it is the first time the winner of Wimbledon is other than Federer, Nadal,
Murray and Djokovic. 7 times Wimbledon title winner have fallen to the young one.
If this had been won by Djokovic he could've levelled the record with Federer winning
8 titles. Till the last moment the match went as a thriller and the service were at the
bullet speed from both.
20 years old Spaniard done impressive job and change the tennis era with first person who win this big title and now having good chance for the staying at the top for long time because there is no serious contender in front of him if he has no serious injury things could be much better for his rule on tennis in future.

I was not expecting to win like this for him because Djokovic is surely GOAT at Wimbledon but in this final game he has done a good number of mistakes which bring his rule here after first two sets there were expectations he will end this all in four sets but this time Alcaraz was on his best and fight back with bang which helps him for having his first Wimbledon title.

Look like Serbian was tired as he has too many mistakes which allow his opponent to have better result even today he was going to have good chance for bringing himself to the level of Roger Federer, but now we have to wait for the another year.

We're entering a new era in tennis. Alcaraz has become a groundbreaker in tennis. I applaud his recovery, especially after losing the first set. He's only 20 years old and he showed the world what he can do.

Djokovic had a very big goal and he couldn't withstand the pressure of the size of that goal. I didn't expect that. As time goes by, fitness becomes more important. We saw that in the mistakes made at some points. Congratulations to the new champion.
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July 17, 2023, 12:49:59 AM
It was a very interesting match, easy first win for Djokovic, Alcaraz comes back to win the
next 2 sets with a 19 minute game thrown into the mix, Djokovic comes back to take the
fourth to go the full distance, just like a true champion.

Djokovic REALLY wanted this one for many reasons, its all about records at this stage for him,
and he let his frustrations and emotions out.

Really great win from Alcaraz, winners mentality to never give up until its over.
This was a great miss for Djokovic. The win is marked as the beginning of new era.
Since 2002 it is the first time the winner of Wimbledon is other than Federer, Nadal,
Murray and Djokovic. 7 times Wimbledon title winner have fallen to the young one.
If this had been won by Djokovic he could've levelled the record with Federer winning
8 titles. Till the last moment the match went as a thriller and the service were at the
bullet speed from both.
20 years old Spaniard done impressive job and change the tennis era with first person who win this big title and now having good chance for the staying at the top for long time because there is no serious contender in front of him if he has no serious injury things could be much better for his rule on tennis in future.

I was not expecting to win like this for him because Djokovic is surely GOAT at Wimbledon but in this final game he has done a good number of mistakes which bring his rule here after first two sets there were expectations he will end this all in four sets but this time Alcaraz was on his best and fight back with bang which helps him for having his first Wimbledon title.

Look like Serbian was tired as he has too many mistakes which allow his opponent to have better result even today he was going to have good chance for bringing himself to the level of Roger Federer, but now we have to wait for the another year.
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July 16, 2023, 10:43:26 PM
It's incredible that Alcaraz won this game, and it's also important that he won after losing the first set. Beating a legend like Djokovic in the final is a huge achievement. It looks like we're going to talk more about this kid now.
Djokovic will win a few more titles before ending his career. However, after he retires, tennis will be left to these young talents. A great achievement indeed, congratulations again.
Of course, a period will end and Djokovic is getting there but I'm sure it will not happen in the near future, 2-3 years he will still be able to play at his highest level, and the biggest capital he has is his fitness which doesn't show that he has an age gap away from the young players.
Apart from the 30-year generation, only two players have so far managed to beat Djokovic in the Grand Slam finals Daniil Medvedev and Carlos Alcaraz and this is proof that he is still the best because other young players have no way of bringing down the Serb.

The next Grand Slam is the US Open, don't know if Djokovic will get a visa to enter the United States, if he can't compete there then Alcaraz will certainly be quite easy to defend his title there, Daniil Medvedev will definitely be the strongest competitor there because he really loves hard courts, but it looks like for now only injuries can hinder Alcaraz.
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July 16, 2023, 06:59:23 PM
Alcaraz is simply too good for everybody else. When Đoković retires, he'll basically be a favorite in every Grand Slam he'll play for the foreseeable future.

I think he'll win against Đoković - he looked a lot more comfortable today.

Awesome victory indeed for Alcaraz and you're right , when Djoko retires , Alcaraz will have free run towards most of the grand slams per year and that is frighting as he is only 20 years old. I won't lie as I thought Djoko will win after 1st set but Alcaraz was just warming up like he did in previous games and from there , Djoko was on a back foot but still gave everything.
Even at this age he had did the best of his ability. Till the last moment it is predicted that Djokovic will win the match. During the last set Djokovic lost serve which is completely unexpected. From there Alcaraz was very clear not to make any mistakes. As said when Djokovic retires Alcaraz will take the position, however it is really hard to stay long as a champion in a sports like tennis. Djokovic have maintained his health and doesn't went into injuries for a long. If Alcaraz stay active till 35 surely he'll beat most of the records made by the legendary players.
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July 16, 2023, 05:11:24 PM
It was a very interesting match, easy first win for Djokovic, Alcaraz comes back to win the
next 2 sets with a 19 minute game thrown into the mix, Djokovic comes back to take the
fourth to go the full distance, just like a true champion.

Djokovic REALLY wanted this one for many reasons, its all about records at this stage for him,
and he let his frustrations and emotions out.

Really great win from Alcaraz, winners mentality to never give up until its over.
This was a great miss for Djokovic. The win is marked as the beginning of new era.
Since 2002 it is the first time the winner of Wimbledon is other than Federer, Nadal,
Murray and Djokovic. 7 times Wimbledon title winner have fallen to the young one.
If this had been won by Djokovic he could've levelled the record with Federer winning
8 titles. Till the last moment the match went as a thriller and the service were at the
bullet speed from both.
legendary
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July 16, 2023, 03:49:09 PM
It was a very interesting match, easy first win for Djokovic, Alcaraz comes back to win the
next 2 sets with a 19 minute game thrown into the mix, Djokovic comes back to take the
fourth to go the full distance, just like a true champion.

Djokovic REALLY wanted this one for many reasons, its all about records at this stage for him,
and he let his frustrations and emotions out.

Really great win from Alcaraz, winners mentality to never give up until its over.
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July 16, 2023, 03:36:04 PM
Age won't seem to matter between these two as it was on display during their two previous meetings.
There is a 16 year difference but when it comes to tennis, it won't matter since experience is the determining factor as the player can recuperate after every set and come out stronger after gathering their senses to power through to the next set.
Remember Carlos cramped up during the Miami tournament and lost to Sinner of course that was on hard court then he had to withdraw from the French Open earlier this season from the very same symptoms.

For myself, I will go with the tested and true game play of Novak Djokovic to win this Wimbledon in a set of five since Alcaraz will probably suffer the same fate as he did before if it does go the distance.
And many are imagining this matchup of the world's #1 and #2 will end up being. As this tournament's final will determine who will be #1 of the world.

Novak Djokovic and Alcaraz's match has concluded with a surprising twist. My expectations of a fiercely contested and captivating battle were not misguided. This showdown had all the ingredients for an enthralling spectacle. Ultimately, Álvarez Garfield emerged victorious. Although both players put up a strong fight in the fifth set, ultimately, there could only be one triumphant player in this fiercely competitive contest. Novak Djokovic has a chance, I thought after the first set. But Alcaraz Garfia, number one in the whole world, showed why there is a reason.
legendary
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July 16, 2023, 03:31:44 PM
Alcaraz is simply too good for everybody else. When Đoković retires, he'll basically be a favorite in every Grand Slam he'll play for the foreseeable future.

I think he'll win against Đoković - he looked a lot more comfortable today.

Awesome victory indeed for Alcaraz and you're right , when Djoko retires , Alcaraz will have free run towards most of the grand slams per year and that is frighting as he is only 20 years old. I won't lie as I thought Djoko will win after 1st set but Alcaraz was just warming up like he did in previous games and from there , Djoko was on a back foot but still gave everything.
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July 16, 2023, 03:31:25 PM
It's incredible that Alcaraz won this game, and it's also important that he won after losing the first set. Beating a legend like Djokovic in the final is a huge achievement. It looks like we're going to talk more about this kid now.
Djokovic will win a few more titles before ending his career. However, after he retires, tennis will be left to these young talents. A great achievement indeed, congratulations again.
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July 16, 2023, 01:51:40 PM
Djokovic missed a great opportunity to lead 2:0 in the sets and currently Alcaraz is leading 3:1 in the third set and is playing much better than Djokovic.
Djokovic makes a lot of mistakes on key points in the match, which is not typical for him and he doesn't look good.
If Djokovic fails to change the course of the match, Alcaraz will be close to winning the match overall.
I didn't expect this kind of match, I thought that Djokovic would be much more dominant in this match, but it seems that he got nervous and makes a lot of mistakes.


For a lot of people, it was totally unexpected. I'm sure millions of people were even in shock. Talented youngsters can be seen occasionally playing very good matches in ATP. They won championships in some qualifying tournaments, beat goat names, played very good matches, but their balloons would burst when they came to slams. With his 2nd slam, Alcaraz showed that he was not included in that group and stood at a different point. I hope we can watch the same performance for years without any injuries. He has an incredibly different technique, he is very young, even from the screen, you can sometimes feel the moments when his hand is shaking. A 20-year-old wimbledon champion who will enable the Spaniards to dominate another branch in sports for years. Djokovic is experienced but his energy is low for an athlete of his age. Experience was not enough. At this rate, he becomes a new Federer. What an accomplishment.
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July 16, 2023, 12:52:56 PM
In most of his matches the first set will be lost and he makes a comeback to win the match. This time he won the first set in a much comfortable manner. The second set went to the tie breaker and it is a win for Alcaraz. Third set an easy win for Alcaraz. Finally Djokovic have made the fourth set a win for him. Deciding set is in progress and Djokovic have lost a serve and Alcaraz takes advantage which makes it a winning match for Alcaraz. The young blood have won against the experienced Djokovic and the points are 1-6 78-66 6-1 3-6 6-4.
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July 16, 2023, 12:24:56 PM
Meanwhile, exactly the opposite happened: the Spaniard took the next two sets (7:6, 6:1) and now leading in the fourth set 1:0. Djokovic doesn't look that fresh and dominant as in the beginning of the match. Will he have enough energy and stamina to win this one? 35yo vs a 20yo very exciting to watch this duel!
Did you really question Djoković fitness? I don't think anyone can match the level of fitness Djoković is bringing to every single big tournaments in last 10 years. No big injuries, always 100% ready, doing yoga and what not every day.... I am sure Djoković will not give up and he will not run out of steam.

Only way for Alcaraz to win this is to play his absolutely best tennis all the way trough the end. And that gets really though against players like Djoković that will not give anything for free. I still think Alcaraz can win this even though he just lost 4th set quite easy.
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