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July 15, 2023, 05:35:39 PM

To be honest, I was quite disappointed with yesterday's semifinals, either because Djokovic and Alcaraz were really ready to face their opponents or because their opponents couldn't play with their highest performance, last year Jannick Sinner was able to take two sets from Djokovic but this time not even for a set though, and Medvedev, who looked like he couldn't get out of the pressure of the third set, was a bit hopeful but still couldn't find his best form.
The final between Djokovic vs Alcaraz was as predicted, Djokovic remains the favorite considering he is quite superior in this tournament and rarely sees odds on Djokovic above 1.30 this time he gets 1.54 with Alcaraz 2.55, if many think Djokovic often loses the initial set and after that playing at the highest level of his game but I'm pretty sure he's not going to do that this time and from Djokovics match with all the young players it's surprising the age difference is over 13 years but his fitness doesn't show he's older.

I still think it will be 4 sets; Djokovic will loose the first set and than go on and win the next 3 sets. I am surprised that the odd for Djokovic is around 1.5; this is the first time that Alcaraz gets so far as grass is not his favorite underground so Djokovic is the clear favorite here to win Wimbledon again.
The young versus the experienced gonna play the finals. Djokovic being the favourite for the Wimbledon finals is an expected one. Losing the first set and winning the match is kind of style that Djokovic follows. At times this can fire back, because against a player like Alcaraz is different from playing against unseeded players. Even a small mistake could make Alcaraz make the lead. Lets see what's gonna happen as the top seeded ones compete for the title.

This is the first time in history something unexpected have taken place and that is really appreciable. In Women's tournament an unseeded player have reached the finals and won the title, Vondrousova have won against Jabeur 6-4 6-4
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July 15, 2023, 05:23:20 PM

To be honest, I was quite disappointed with yesterday's semifinals, either because Djokovic and Alcaraz were really ready to face their opponents or because their opponents couldn't play with their highest performance, last year Jannick Sinner was able to take two sets from Djokovic but this time not even for a set though, and Medvedev, who looked like he couldn't get out of the pressure of the third set, was a bit hopeful but still couldn't find his best form.
The final between Djokovic vs Alcaraz was as predicted, Djokovic remains the favorite considering he is quite superior in this tournament and rarely sees odds on Djokovic above 1.30 this time he gets 1.54 with Alcaraz 2.55, if many think Djokovic often loses the initial set and after that playing at the highest level of his game but I'm pretty sure he's not going to do that this time and from Djokovics match with all the young players it's surprising the age difference is over 13 years but his fitness doesn't show he's older.

I still think it will be 4 sets; Djokovic will loose the first set and than go on and win the next 3 sets. I am surprised that the odd for Djokovic is around 1.5; this is the first time that Alcaraz gets so far as grass is not his favorite underground so Djokovic is the clear favorite here to win Wimbledon again.
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July 15, 2023, 11:37:48 AM
I am not sure we have both seen the same articles about him but as far as I know this is THE biggest achievement of his life that nobody ever expected. Eubanks played like an experienced end level Wimbledon competitor. But Medvedev know how to counter it in the end.
I don't know what he did before but Eubanks really surprised everyone with his success.
Many people did not believe in this achievement and felt that there was something strange about Eubanks because his performance had improved so much.
Medvedev is a player who has a million achievements championship titles and what's great is that Eubanks managed to keep up with Medvedev even though the final result was a bit disappointing.

It would have been a big bang in the tennis world if Eubanks really eliminated Medvedev in that game. All sports live upon such surprises as people want to see the small guy beat the big guy. This would have been the perfect plot in this match-up and damn it was so close. I believe what is so special about Christopher Eubanks is his age. There have been youngsters in the past who played amazing tennis and spread enthusiasm among the fans. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Alcaraz and others, but here it was a 27-year old guy who out of a sudden played world class tennis. As if he woke up one morning and suddenly became a different player overnight.
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July 15, 2023, 10:33:13 AM
WTA final live now. Jabeur lost the first set to Vondrousova by making loads of unforced errors. In a couple of last games of the first set she could return a single serve. She lost the opening set 4:6. Right now, second set is under way and it's 4:3 Jabeur. Her quality of play has improved considerably and I'm hoping to see the third set.
Vondrousova won the match easily in straight sets and only had problems in the first set. Realtivly easily won the final and too bad about Ons Jabour that dominated through out the entire tournament and just didnt have focus in the final. If she played like before the final i think we would have seen a different outcome. Now Vondrousova is in the top 10 and jumped from a 42th place on the wta tour.
Wasn't Vondrousova the first lowest ranked (42) womens player to win at Wimbledon?
Think I heard one of the announcer's saying this before the match started.
I managed to watch the first set and then got a bit busy and ended up watching the final game where she won it.
They showed there were only two other unseeded players to win the major but those were both in the ATP.
Really good showing from Vondrousova because she was 80 to 1 to win Wimbledon for the women's side.
Think Ons Jabeur was closer to 9 to 1. Because she has been in this finals just last year but of course lost that one aswell.
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July 15, 2023, 09:59:46 AM
WTA final live now. Jabeur lost the first set to Vondrousova by making loads of unforced errors. In a couple of last games of the first set she could return a single serve. She lost the opening set 4:6. Right now, second set is under way and it's 4:3 Jabeur. Her quality of play has improved considerably and I'm hoping to see the third set.

Vondrousova won the match easily in straight sets and only had problems in the first set. Realtivly easily won the final and too bad about Ons Jabour that dominated through out the entire tournament and just didnt have focus in the final. If she played like before the final i think we would have seen a different outcome. Now Vondrousova is in the top 10 and jumped from a 42th place on the wta tour.
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July 15, 2023, 09:47:55 AM
WTA final live now. Jabeur lost the first set to Vondrousova by making loads of unforced errors. In a couple of last games of the first set she could return a single serve. She lost the opening set 4:6. Right now, second set is under way and it's 4:3 Jabeur. Her quality of play has improved considerably and I'm hoping to see the third set.

Unfortunately, the third set did not happen and Marketa Vondrousova is the new Wimbledon winner.
Jabeur failed to win Wimbledon again and I feel sorry for her. I hope she manages to win this tournament soon because she really deserves it.
Vondrousova won 6:4 and 6:4 and somewhat surprisingly won Wimbledon. I don't know if anyone seriously thought about her as a possible winner before the start of the tournament?
Now we have to wait for the men's final tomorrow and see if Djokovic will rewrite tennis history again.
Alcaraz will be his biggest challenge yet.
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July 15, 2023, 09:22:48 AM
WTA final live now. Jabeur lost the first set to Vondrousova by making loads of unforced errors. In a couple of last games of the first set she could return a single serve. She lost the opening set 4:6. Right now, second set is under way and it's 4:3 Jabeur. Her quality of play has improved considerably and I'm hoping to see the third set.
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July 15, 2023, 02:20:10 AM
I am not sure we have both seen the same articles about him but as far as I know this is THE biggest achievement of his life that nobody ever expected. Eubanks played like an experienced end level Wimbledon competitor. But Medvedev know how to counter it in the end.
I don't know what he did before but Eubanks really surprised everyone with his success.
Many people did not believe in this achievement and felt that there was something strange about Eubanks because his performance had improved so much.
Medvedev is a player who has a million achievements championship titles and what's great is that Eubanks managed to keep up with Medvedev even though the final result was a bit disappointing.
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July 15, 2023, 12:20:41 AM
no final for Sinner. not being able to reach the final is not a  surprise.... the bookmakers quoted his victory today between @4.5 / @4.80 ... after so many defeats due to injuries at least he seems to have found a decent physical form .. and he is certainly a player who will play at a very high level in the next few years

Well i won my bet on under games and it was pretty close due to Sinner missing those set points. But still Sinner got lucky to come to this stage of the tournament. The best player that he played during the tournament before Djokovic was Halys that is ranked 79th. I think that also had an effect on Sinner because he played only easy matches.
To be honest, I was quite disappointed with yesterday's semifinals, either because Djokovic and Alcaraz were really ready to face their opponents or because their opponents couldn't play with their highest performance, last year Jannick Sinner was able to take two sets from Djokovic but this time not even for a set though, and Medvedev, who looked like he couldn't get out of the pressure of the third set, was a bit hopeful but still couldn't find his best form.
The final between Djokovic vs Alcaraz was as predicted, Djokovic remains the favorite considering he is quite superior in this tournament and rarely sees odds on Djokovic above 1.30 this time he gets 1.54 with Alcaraz 2.55, if many think Djokovic often loses the initial set and after that playing at the highest level of his game but I'm pretty sure he's not going to do that this time and from Djokovics match with all the young players it's surprising the age difference is over 13 years but his fitness doesn't show he's older.

Well done Joca97 in calling the under bet, it was all done in 32 games! and like bitbollo
I am still waiting for bigger things from one of my favourite players.

I too am dissapointed with both finals Strongkored, I actually thought they would have
been closer.

What this means for grass court season at least is that a grand slam winner
in Medvedev needs to find another level or two to get up to where our finalists are - performance
wise and Sinner probably needs another 2 levels?

Alcaraz or Djokovic for the final? really have not got a clue, both players have been
fairly clinical this year at Wimbledon, maybe I'm edging towards the young gun
if he can replicate his fine drop shots again to mix up his game??
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July 14, 2023, 11:07:09 PM
no final for Sinner. not being able to reach the final is not a  surprise.... the bookmakers quoted his victory today between @4.5 / @4.80 ... after so many defeats due to injuries at least he seems to have found a decent physical form .. and he is certainly a player who will play at a very high level in the next few years

Well i won my bet on under games and it was pretty close due to Sinner missing those set points. But still Sinner got lucky to come to this stage of the tournament. The best player that he played during the tournament before Djokovic was Halys that is ranked 79th. I think that also had an effect on Sinner because he played only easy matches.
To be honest, I was quite disappointed with yesterday's semifinals, either because Djokovic and Alcaraz were really ready to face their opponents or because their opponents couldn't play with their highest performance, last year Jannick Sinner was able to take two sets from Djokovic but this time not even for a set though, and Medvedev, who looked like he couldn't get out of the pressure of the third set, was a bit hopeful but still couldn't find his best form.
The final between Djokovic vs Alcaraz was as predicted, Djokovic remains the favorite considering he is quite superior in this tournament and rarely sees odds on Djokovic above 1.30 this time he gets 1.54 with Alcaraz 2.55, if many think Djokovic often loses the initial set and after that playing at the highest level of his game but I'm pretty sure he's not going to do that this time and from Djokovics match with all the young players it's surprising the age difference is over 13 years but his fitness doesn't show he's older.
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July 14, 2023, 04:24:23 PM
to quote myself, Eubanks had good match, and provided some gains
but, I did not cash-out when possible after third set on a win, and should do that, but at that moment expected to see Eubanks winning this one, and he could do that in fourth set, fifth was just a formality

will be interesting to see Alcaraz against Medvedev, but I think that Medvedev is without chances to take even set there, should be straight sets for Alcaraz, will check odds and probably have it like that

Good performance from Alcaraz. Both waited for mistakes from the opponent and Alcaraz was more consistent overall in terms of performance than Rune

Eubanks as expected from me, did not disappoint me. The fact that he managed to play 5 sets in the quarter-finals shows that we have to expect more from him in the future. It seems he have lost concentration in set 5.
At Thursday the mens have a day off and at Friday the semi-finals will be played.

It was refreshing to see how the guy called Eubanks played against Medvedev. I have never heard of him before and it seems that he was about to give up professional tennis. The telegraph and some other news outlets have written that he was on his way to a different career path as a commentator. I love life stories like that. A player decides to end the career and then to his own surprise almost beats Medvedev in a Wimbledon quarter-final.

Alcaraz was strong and he is looking good and confident. I don't own a crystal ball but I think that both Djokovic and Alcaraz are too stable and focused to fail in the semi-finals.

I have followed Eubanks for a long time now and he is a good player that serves well and has a good forehand but his behand is bad and that causes problems for him. But he has improved so much lately and this is one of the biggest achievements of his life. But cant wait to watch the semifinals,it will be awesome.

I am not sure we have both seen the same articles about him but as far as I know this is THE biggest achievement of his life that nobody ever expected. Eubanks played like an experienced end level Wimbledon competitor. But Medvedev know how to counter it in the end.
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July 14, 2023, 03:59:28 PM
I think Carlos Alcaraz has no chance. Novak Djokovic will win another championship and show that he is the GOAT again. Djokovic, who broke another record by reaching the grand slam final for the 35th time, wants to reach the maximum number of championships before he retires. I see Djokovic, who has statistics that will not be approached for many years, as the heavy favorite in this match. No need to even consider any other option.
Alcaraz did a great job beating Medvedev, but playing with Djokovic is something else entirely. These names may become champions after Djokovic retires, but for now, the legacy of the big three continues.
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July 14, 2023, 02:34:47 PM
no final for Sinner. not being able to reach the final is not a  surprise.... the bookmakers quoted his victory today between @4.5 / @4.80 ... after so many defeats due to injuries at least he seems to have found a decent physical form .. and he is certainly a player who will play at a very high level in the next few years

Well i won my bet on under games and it was pretty close due to Sinner missing those set points. But still Sinner got lucky to come to this stage of the tournament. The best player that he played during the tournament before Djokovic was Halys that is ranked 79th. I think that also had an effect on Sinner because he played only easy matches.
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July 14, 2023, 02:29:44 PM
to quote myself, Eubanks had good match, and provided some gains
but, I did not cash-out when possible after third set on a win, and should do that, but at that moment expected to see Eubanks winning this one, and he could do that in fourth set, fifth was just a formality

will be interesting to see Alcaraz against Medvedev, but I think that Medvedev is without chances to take even set there, should be straight sets for Alcaraz, will check odds and probably have it like that

Good performance from Alcaraz. Both waited for mistakes from the opponent and Alcaraz was more consistent overall in terms of performance than Rune

Eubanks as expected from me, did not disappoint me. The fact that he managed to play 5 sets in the quarter-finals shows that we have to expect more from him in the future. It seems he have lost concentration in set 5.
At Thursday the mens have a day off and at Friday the semi-finals will be played.

It was refreshing to see how the guy called Eubanks played against Medvedev. I have never heard of him before and it seems that he was about to give up professional tennis. The telegraph and some other news outlets have written that he was on his way to a different career path as a commentator. I love life stories like that. A player decides to end the career and then to his own surprise almost beats Medvedev in a Wimbledon quarter-final.

Alcaraz was strong and he is looking good and confident. I don't own a crystal ball but I think that both Djokovic and Alcaraz are too stable and focused to fail in the semi-finals.
Everyone underestimated Carlos. They said he couldn't play great on the grass. He won the Queen's Tournament and is now in the Wimbledon final. He is not like next or new gen players. He has the qualities and fabric of the big three. He learns everything very quickly. He became a grass court specialist in three weeks. And I think he learned a lot in the Roland Garros semi-final against Novak. I think he might even win Wimbledon. These beastly forehands, this unbelievable speed, three weeks of returns to another level... I don't want to exaggerate but Carlos has quite a high chance in my opinion. Djokovic is djokovic and he is of course favourite but I am open to surprise.

Carlitos was great, I agree. His game in semifinal today was awesome. It was like some next level tennis, I swear he knew exactly where Medvedev is going to direct his next shot. Crazy shit guys, that level of tennis is crazy. I won't be betting on the final though. It's anybody's match imho. Still I believe that if his body won't let him down this time he will beat Nole.

BTW, Alcaraz can be the first ever person in history to win both the tournament right before Wimbledon (Queen's) and Wimbledon.
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July 14, 2023, 01:53:39 PM
to quote myself, Eubanks had good match, and provided some gains
but, I did not cash-out when possible after third set on a win, and should do that, but at that moment expected to see Eubanks winning this one, and he could do that in fourth set, fifth was just a formality

will be interesting to see Alcaraz against Medvedev, but I think that Medvedev is without chances to take even set there, should be straight sets for Alcaraz, will check odds and probably have it like that

Good performance from Alcaraz. Both waited for mistakes from the opponent and Alcaraz was more consistent overall in terms of performance than Rune

Eubanks as expected from me, did not disappoint me. The fact that he managed to play 5 sets in the quarter-finals shows that we have to expect more from him in the future. It seems he have lost concentration in set 5.
At Thursday the mens have a day off and at Friday the semi-finals will be played.

It was refreshing to see how the guy called Eubanks played against Medvedev. I have never heard of him before and it seems that he was about to give up professional tennis. The telegraph and some other news outlets have written that he was on his way to a different career path as a commentator. I love life stories like that. A player decides to end the career and then to his own surprise almost beats Medvedev in a Wimbledon quarter-final.

Alcaraz was strong and he is looking good and confident. I don't own a crystal ball but I think that both Djokovic and Alcaraz are too stable and focused to fail in the semi-finals.
Everyone underestimated Carlos. They said he couldn't play great on the grass. He won the Queen's Tournament and is now in the Wimbledon final. He is not like next or new gen players. He has the qualities and fabric of the big three. He learns everything very quickly. He became a grass court specialist in three weeks. And I think he learned a lot in the Roland Garros semi-final against Novak. I think he might even win Wimbledon. These beastly forehands, this unbelievable speed, three weeks of returns to another level... I don't want to exaggerate but Carlos has quite a high chance in my opinion. Djokovic is djokovic and he is of course favourite but I am open to surprise.
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July 14, 2023, 01:43:42 PM
Alcaraz is simply too good for everybody else. When Đoković retires, he'll basically be a favorite in every Grand Slam he'll play for the foreseeable future.

I think he'll win against Đoković - he looked a lot more comfortable today.

Honestly I think I'm laying down on djokavich.  His time isn't over yet and think alcatraz might need to wait just a little longer to take over the men's tennis world.  Djokavich in 4 sets is what I'm laying down on, although I wouldn't be surprised with a clean sweep.
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July 14, 2023, 01:24:06 PM
no final for Sinner. not being able to reach the final is not a  surprise.... the bookmakers quoted his victory today between @4.5 / @4.80 ... after so many defeats due to injuries at least he seems to have found a decent physical form .. and he is certainly a player who will play at a very high level in the next few years

Yes, until Jannik Sinner learns how to play against the top players, he'll remain a player that just keeps getting eliminated at the semi finals or quarter finals, a title just synonymous to king of the underdogs.

He's a very good player and I think he has a great mentality too, but he needs to be less predictable and add more dynamism to his game that can make him adapt to any opponent style and other unfortunate scenarios.
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July 14, 2023, 01:14:09 PM
Alcaraz is simply too good for everybody else. When Đoković retires, he'll basically be a favorite in every Grand Slam he'll play for the foreseeable future.

I think he'll win against Đoković - he looked a lot more comfortable today.
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July 14, 2023, 11:30:00 AM
no final for Sinner. not being able to reach the final is not a  surprise.... the bookmakers quoted his victory today between @4.5 / @4.80 ... after so many defeats due to injuries at least he seems to have found a decent physical form .. and he is certainly a player who will play at a very high level in the next few years
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July 14, 2023, 06:43:49 AM
The match between the two young players Alcaraz and Rune were more enjoyable as we were able to watch the energetic performance from both sides. Rune played well, but he couldn't stay on the tournament anymore. The tricky shots and cool movements were nice to watch.
This one hurt my ticket badly, I needed Rune to take one set for everything to pass but Alcaraz was just better in important points. Did not watch the whole thing but parts that I have seen Rune was able to hold his own until Alcaraz shifted gears in important points.

Anyway I have a feeling there will be a lot more matches between these two in the future.

Can't believe bookies see Alcaraz as that big favorite against Medvedev. This is his first good grass season and while I think he will I was expecting odds around 1.6 or even 1.7. Sinner has no chance against Djokovic IMHO, they have similar playstyles only Djokovic is better in every segment.

I think the last time they played each other Sinner was up 2 sets, he won the first two sets and
Djokovic came back and comprehensively beat him . . .

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Yes Wimbledon last year in one of the quarter finals , the scoring was: 5-7, 2-6, 6-3, 6-2, 6-2

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but now some questions are going around my head . . .

Sinner is a way better player now than he was last year, his game has developed a lot -
will it be enough to get him 2 sets up again and carry him one step futrther to get that
3rd set?

has Djokovic improved since last year or is he just more driven, more focussed, more ambitious?

Well in the last two time Sinner was able to get two sets at least against Djokovic. But i got a good feeling that this will go into straight sets for Djokovic. I picked under 37.5 games in this match and i think it is realistic. So far Djokovic player all over/unders over. Not a single match went under in games and i think todays match might be under.
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