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Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

Everyone has a choice. For many test cricket fans its low buzz series. I am not watching live as well just keeping a tab on the score.

As of now, Kiwis are struggling at 71/3. They had a good start of 60+ runs, but 3 quick wickets by spinner Dananjaya turn the tide in favor of SriLankan.

Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series is not some thing like England Vs Aussies Ashes series and hence it will not draw much attention other then the people of NZ and srilanka, who would like to watch this series.
Secondly no one has the time to click to the TV for 8 hours daily just to watch a test match.

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Quote from: Raja_MBZ on August 13, 2019, 05:20:11 PM

It seems like Moeen Ali is going to take a "nice short break from cricket" after being dropped for the 2nd test match of the Ashes:

Moeen Ali: England & Worcestershire all-rounder to take short break after Test omission

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49329927

Good move. His form has been pretty horrible recently and this break might help him retain his form in the near future. In my opinion, England needs to give newbie spinners a chance here in order to test their mettle.

Quote from: vella85 on August 13, 2019, 05:57:56 PM

I keep seeing people here talking about England being World Champions however that is for ODI and test match cricket is a lot different and the team is not the same. It doesn't matter that they won the World Cup, test match cricket is not the same and the Ashes is the biggest in test match cricket so Australia was always going to be up for the challenge and maybe England got carried away after winning the World Cup. I still think England will bounce back in the series and even win the Ashes back from Australia only because Australia hasn't performed all that well in England in past years. I just know that we are in for an entertaining series ahead and if England can win the second test it will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

I completely agree. Test match Cricket is a different ball game altogether. This will probably go down to the wire unless the England players loses their composure. My bet is on England to take the 2nd test.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 02:20:01 PM

Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

Everyone has a choice. For many test cricket fans its low buzz series. I am not watching live as well just keeping a tab on the score.

As of now, Kiwis are struggling at 71/3. They had a good start of 60+ runs, but 3 quick wickets by spinner Dananjaya turn the tide in favor of SriLankan.

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

Adding to this is that England are also the world champions and they now have a different level of confidence. This Ashes series should belong to them although they did faced the first defeat in the first test match. I think England will come up strongly in the 2nd test.

I keep seeing people here talking about England being World Champions however that is for ODI and test match cricket is a lot different and the team is not the same. It doesn't matter that they won the World Cup, test match cricket is not the same and the Ashes is the biggest in test match cricket so Australia was always going to be up for the challenge and maybe England got carried away after winning the World Cup. I still think England will bounce back in the series and even win the Ashes back from Australia only because Australia hasn't performed all that well in England in past years. I just know that we are in for an entertaining series ahead and if England can win the second test it will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

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They have been known to bounce back after losses which is why I am expecting the same in this 2nd test match. A draw is also a possibility.

I hope England could bounce back in the second test, they were on top most of the time in the first innings but they never capitalized their good start and was able to build a good first innings lead, the English batsmen has to perform well if they are to win the test match and they will be including Jofra Archer in the team instead of the injured James Anderson and they might leave Moeen Ali out. I am still expecting Australia to win the test match as Smith is back in form and Lyon is bowling well and the toss is important.

It seems like Moeen Ali is going to take a "nice short break from cricket" after being dropped for the 2nd test match of the Ashes:

Moeen Ali: England & Worcestershire all-rounder to take short break after Test omission

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49329927

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 02:20:01 PM

Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

Test match is always different and the venue is also important, if New Zealand is facing Srilanka in their homeland then it would be a battle for the New Zealand team as the pitch favors spin and toss is yet another important factor as none can bat longer in the fourth innings in turning tracks of Srilanka.
But if it is the other way around then i would not mind placing a full on bet on NZ to win, I have to look at the odds to place a bet in this match.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 09:25:55 AM

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

Well I have no interest in Match but after getting in gambling now i like it and i mostly watch it on YouTube so I can fully enjoy and in test matches I know one should give the best performance both are good teams and batting needs perfection so the bats man should be confidential and well aware of all cricket rules.

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Have we all forgot about Sri Lanka vs New Zealand test series? Two test series. We will see how Sri Lanka challenge the world cup finalist.

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How the first three days were dominated by England ?

England dominated the first few hours of the first test when they took 8 wicket very quickly. And then the test was uncertain till the end of the third day. Everyone was expecting England will take few wickets in the 1st season of the 4th day but it was an excellent session for Australia and that was when the test turned to Australian's favor.

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

How the first three days were dominated by England ?
Aussie managed to get a decent score and England despite of a good start were struggling to take a big lead. From there onward they had no clue on how Aussies manage to get a lead in 2nd innings and England batsmen couldn't bear the scorecard pressure in the last innings and were completely outclass by the Aussies.

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

Adding to this is that England are also the world champions and they now have a different level of confidence. This Ashes series should belong to them although they did faced the first defeat in the first test match. I think England will come up strongly in the 2nd test.

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

Playing test matches in England is never been easy for any team first test was poised fourth day otherwise first 3 days was completed dominant by England now we are heading for Lords here England's personal record is never been good but now England is is do or die situation so we can expect very tough competition from them and this is going to be very interesting match beyond the result.

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Quote from: erikalui on August 13, 2019, 09:25:55 AM

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

I think we cannot be sure of who will win the 2nd test match between England and Australia. The last test was pretty much even till the forth day.
Both teams are strong and it will depend on them on how they start the first innings. The team who start to dominate early will have more chances of winning.

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Without Roy England betting line up was a mess in the middle of the tournament. I think they had to bring back Roy early to save their WC mission even he was not fit 100%.

It was a fact that Roy was their lucky charm as England need him in the team for them to win and when he was out injured they were struggling even with a strong batting line up and lost a couple of matches which i was not expecting, you had some big losses betting for England with low odds Undecided

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There are concerns in Australia's batting line up however I think they will win. I will go for Austral to win or the worse will be a draw.

Smith is continuing his prime form in test matches and he is the main stay for Australia and if Warner and Usman Khawaja returns to form then it is trouble for England, the problem with is that England does not have any classic test players who have the patience to stay in the crease for a long time.

They were all playing fine until the second innings where they rattled on quickly. I don't think England have players who will keep on doing the same mistakes and would be a rather more cautious side in the next.

Most of them actually have a decent share of test experience since they play those county cricket games whenever they are not picked for international duty. Though it's a different level when you play at international but still they should have strategies in their pocket to workout when team is at pretty bad shape at a point.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:05:18 AM

Without Roy England betting line up was a mess in the middle of the tournament. I think they had to bring back Roy early to save their WC mission even he was not fit 100%.

It was a fact that Roy was their lucky charm as England need him in the team for them to win and when he was out injured they were struggling even with a strong batting line up and lost a couple of matches which i was not expecting, you had some big losses betting for England with low odds Undecided

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 13, 2019, 04:05:18 AM

There are concerns in Australia's batting line up however I think they will win. I will go for Austral to win or the worse will be a draw.

Smith is continuing his prime form in test matches and he is the main stay for Australia and if Warner and Usman Khawaja returns to form then it is trouble for England, the problem with is that England does not have any classic test players who have the patience to stay in the crease for a long time.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

Me too. England have their homeland advantage too. Out of 5 tests, they should win atleast three so first one going bad is fine. They have more reliable batsmen than Australia currently. They should choose to bat first though to understand the wicket.

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Hard to see that Starc will be coming back. Don't see Aussie bowlers finding it difficult to bowl to English batsman. I think current bowling attack is quite good enough.

It true that competition is hard in the Oz's bowling camp, but one can't deny the fact that during the first test match couple of OZ bowlers were looking helpless on many occasion ( first inning).

I have to agree with @Vella about starc and its tough situation for selectors because siddle looking fresh and good as well. But if starc comes in then, Siddle might sit out from the squad.

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Why was Starc not selected in the first test match.

Cutthroat/healthy competition among pace battery.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 13, 2019, 03:03:12 AM

You do remember India defeating Australia by a comfortable margin too, don't you?

Yeah I do and it was expected. India was a better team. India played really well cricket in the whole tournament except in the semi against New Zealand.
They were the first deserved one to have the world cup and 2nd was to be Australia.

Without Roy England betting line up was a mess in the middle of the tournament. I think they had to bring back Roy early to save their WC mission even he was not fit 100%.

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My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

There are concerns in Australia's batting line up however I think they will win. I will go for Austral to win or the worse will be a draw.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 12, 2019, 05:01:58 PM

I am not denying the good performance of English team in the world cup. They were good but not better than India and Australia. In the group match beating India was okay looking but beating Australia in the semi was just a fluke. Australia had a bad day and England took advantage of it. Then obviously winning the World cup was the biggest fluke. Everything had to go in their favor.

England beating Australia in the World Cup was definitely not a fluke. They decimated them and Australia could not match up in any area. You do remember India defeating Australia by a comfortable margin too, don't you?

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 12, 2019, 05:01:58 PM

I will be bored if the Test turns out to be an easy win for any of the team so I will hope we see another good Test like the first one. Archer is going to play possibly, Starc will be playing. We are looking forward to a competitive Test match. Those who has strong nerves they will win of course.

My bet is on England or a draw for the 2nd test match. Australia is heavily dependent on Smith currently and I think they might be in trouble if Smith departs early this time around.

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Hard to see that Starc will be coming back. Don't see Aussie bowlers finding it difficult to bowl to English batsman. I think current bowling attack is quite good enough.

Addition of Jofra Archer to England side for the next is something interesting. He had very good figures in WC and delivered when needed and with current situation where England are behind in series it will be good to see how much his addition to the team will work out.

Jofra Archer was very good in world cup but now he is going to in other format and this is not easy for him to give like world cup because England already down by one test and moral is also down so its going to be very big test for his skills and stamina if he done good surely he is going to be permanent for his team which is very difficult right now.

I think he has county cricket experience since he plays for Sussex. Although it is slightly different than test but it is kinda long format so I think he is gonna pass on this hurdle.

The main thing is that will he able to pick wickets in longer format since playing against in Ashes is different than county cricket.

Filling in the shoes of Anderson and duties he have to take over is kinda full of pressure.

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Starc bowled really well during the preparation match against Worcestershire last week. He took two important wickets and bowled with a lot of pace and seam movement. Hazlewood also bowled well, so I guess if Starc needs to be included in the team, then Peter Siddle and James Pattinson has to sit out. The pace bowling combination for the next test is going to be Starc-Hazlewood-Cummins. Lyon can be the 4th bowler and the sole spinner among the full-time bowlers.

But then how can the selectors justify not selecting Siddle? He was involved in a crucial 9th wicket partnership with Steve Smith, that added 88 runs and took Australia from 122/8 to 210/9. Apart from that he picked the crucial wickets of Jonny Bairstow and Joe Root during the first innings. It is going to be a real dilemma for the Australian selectors. I won't be even surprised if the pace bowling trio is Starc-Siddle-Cummins. It is going to be a fight for the last slot between Siddle, Pattinson and Hazlewood.

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