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Ganguly is in action mode and very welcome initiative by him, he's trying to strengthen domestic players economically and we can hope more competition among the first-class cricketer. i doubt if anyone wants to miss this boat.

BCCI will have 'contract system for first-class cricketers' - Sourav Ganguly

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In a move that could signal a major shift in Indian cricket, newly-elected BCCI president Sourav Ganguly has said that the board will bring in "a contract system" for first-class cricketers, and that the new finance sub-committee will be asked to put the process in place for it to happen.

"We will bring in a contract system for first-class cricketers," Ganguly told PTI in an interview. "We (office-bearers) will ask the new finance committee to prepare a contract system.

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"My biggest priority will be to look after first-class cricketers," he had said, adding that he had asked the Committee of Administrators (CoA) to provide financial security for domestic cricketers when the panel was put in place by the Supreme Court to supervise the BCCI. "I have been requesting that to the CoA for three years. That's the first thing I will do, look after the financial health of our first-class cricketers."

If implemented, this could change the complexion of the first-class game in the country.

The BCCI currently pays 26% of its gross revenue every year to its players; half of that is distributed among international players. How much each players gets, however, is calculated based on the number of matches they play. Which means a domestic cricketer stands to earn around Rs 25 to 30 lakh [US$ 35,350 to 42,500 approx.] depending on the matches played.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on October 29, 2019, 01:56:39 AM

For test matches the ticket rates are not that high and they will be giving free pass to college and school students in collaboration with the management and hence you will see students in the gallery every day when there are test matches. To include some other events during a test match is not possible as it will create further mess, i have seen matches and it is really tiring and more over there are many restrictions to carry food or cigarette inside the stadium and to watch these boring matches who will be sacrificing all these things Cheesy

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I did observe students on more than one occasion and expected they were given free tickets to improve demand for these matches. If they love Cricket, they probably enjoyed the experience overall. Even if some students are not interested, they still got a day off even if they had to deal with food restrictions which is a plus point.

Its basically a picnic party for them. However, if the venue itself poses problems(No proper roof cover etc), they would probably feel like they were better off attending school etc since Indian stadiums don't allow mobiles inside.

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Quote from: RapTarX on October 28, 2019, 10:09:17 PM

I doubt people only don't watch test cricket jist because they are busy, in reality, most of the people don't like the test format cricket at all and for them, it's a waste of time. But it's the best to cricket fans.

If there is a test match no one will be having the time to go to the stadium for all these days, some people will come to the stadium to see their favorite batsman batting or to see an interesting session if there is some interesting battle going on other than that you cannot attract more crowds and most of the crowd they get is in the final two days of the match.

Quote from: RapTarX on October 28, 2019, 10:09:17 PM

It's better reducing the ticket fee and hold some kind of funny events for the visitors. It may attract some.

For test matches the ticket rates are not that high and they will be giving free pass to college and school students in collaboration with the management and hence you will see students in the gallery every day when there are test matches. To include some other events during a test match is not possible as it will create further mess, i have seen matches and it is really tiring and more over there are many restrictions to carry food or cigarette inside the stadium and to watch these boring matches who will be sacrificing all these things Cheesy

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Quote from: RapTarX on October 28, 2019, 10:09:17 PM

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I doubt people only don't watch test cricket jist because they are busy, in reality, most of the people don't like the test format cricket at all and for them, it's a waste of time. But it's the best to cricket fans.

True, that's a main reason i am in support of "Fixed Venues for the test cricket". its not the tough task to pick 10-12 venues and work on them.

Quote from: RapTarX on October 28, 2019, 10:09:17 PM

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Your creative idea will have a lot of flaws on the system to be monitored. It's better reducing the ticket fee and hold some kind of funny events for the visitors. It may attract some.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 28, 2019, 09:41:41 PM

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But I don't agree with your suggestion to sell discounted tickets for half-day. It will create a lot of complexities. Normally admissions are done only once during the day. If half-day tickets are being sold, then the stadium needs to be emptied by the end of each session and then the viewers needs to be re-admitted. There are practical options here. One option is to create separate stands for those who enter using the half-day ticket. Another option is to limit the half-day ticket only during the second half.

@RapTarX @Sithara007 Well, it was based on personal experience and same scenario, which Sithara pointed out "Bold Text". of course idea is complex and has its fair share of complexity or flaws but it could be implemented with good planning and every drop counts in the end.

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Quote from: RapTarX on October 28, 2019, 10:09:17 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

Plus cricket board need to be little creative when it comes to price. For ex let's say average person want to watch a Test game on Day-1 or so on but he/she can't watch full game due to his/her full time job. give them discount on tickets -half price or whatever- just to encourage.

I doubt people only don't watch test cricket jist because they are busy, in reality, most of the people don't like the test format cricket at all and for them, it's a waste of time. But it's the best to cricket fans.
Your creative idea will have a lot of flaws on the system to be monitored. It's better reducing the ticket fee and hold some kind of funny events for the visitors. It may attract some.

Very few will opt to watch the entire five days match. The fare matters, apart from this there will be expenses. This can be of the food and for other leisure purposes. What we all think might have been planned prior by the cricket boards, but in reality this wouldn't benefit. In this fast moving world if we don't work today we won't have food for tomorrow. By this time surely people will think of spending five days on the ground without any benefit.

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Quote from: RapTarX on October 28, 2019, 10:09:17 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

Plus cricket board need to be little creative when it comes to price. For ex let's say average person want to watch a Test game on Day-1 or so on but he/she can't watch full game due to his/her full time job. give them discount on tickets -half price or whatever- just to encourage.

I doubt people only don't watch test cricket jist because they are busy, in reality, most of the people don't like the test format cricket at all and for them, it's a waste of time. But it's the best to cricket fans.
Your creative idea will have a lot of flaws on the system to be monitored. It's better reducing the ticket fee and hold some kind of funny events for the visitors. It may attract some.

At least in my case, that is true. I find test cricket really boring, and I very rarely watch test matches. The recently concluded series between India and South Africa was a perfect example to this. There was hardly anything exciting with that series and all the matches were one sided. On the other hand, a few months back I watched the Ashes series between England and Australia, and have to admit that I thoroughly enjoyed it. But such matches occur only once in a blue moon and more often we have one sided matches like the one we had last month. Someone had already proposed dividing the test championship in to two divisions and such measures are really needed to keep the test matches interesting.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

Plus cricket board need to be little creative when it comes to price. For ex let's say average person want to watch a Test game on Day-1 or so on but he/she can't watch full game due to his/her full time job. give them discount on tickets -half price or whatever- just to encourage.

I doubt people only don't watch test cricket jist because they are busy, in reality, most of the people don't like the test format cricket at all and for them, it's a waste of time. But it's the best to cricket fans.
Your creative idea will have a lot of flaws on the system to be monitored. It's better reducing the ticket fee and hold some kind of funny events for the visitors. It may attract some.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

D/N cricket can change the dynamics of test cricket in India and if contest is good between bat and ball then its good bet.

Plus cricket board need to be little creative when it comes to price. For ex let's say average person want to watch a Test game on Day-1 or so on but he/she can't watch full game due to his/her full time job. give them discount on tickets -half price or whatever- just to encourage.

Hopefully D/N cricket can increase the gate collection for the test matches (especially for those one sided matches involving India). Normally the collections are high during weekends, but show a big dip during the weekdays. In case of a D/N test, a lot of people will be able to attend the play after their work during weekdays and this can be mutually beneficial for both the BCCI and the fans. With the interest in test cricket declining, measures like these are needed to keep the fans interested in this format.

But I don't agree with your suggestion to sell discounted tickets for half-day. It will create a lot of complexities. Normally admissions are done only once during the day. If half-day tickets are being sold, then the stadium needs to be emptied by the end of each session and then the viewers needs to be re-admitted. There are practical options here. One option is to create separate stands for those who enter using the half-day ticket. Another option is to limit the half-day ticket only during the second half.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 28, 2019, 11:17:44 AM

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@Haunebu Similar to D/N ODI but pink ball instead of Red Ball.

Got it. The pink ball is probably easier to see under night conditions when compared to a red ball. I don't think many people would attend such events though due to their busy schedules though I still would like to some of these matches happen now and then.

D/N cricket can change the dynamics of test cricket in India and if contest is good between bat and ball then its good bet.

Plus cricket board need to be little creative when it comes to price. For ex let's say average person want to watch a Test game on Day-1 or so on but he/she can't watch full game due to his/her full time job. give them discount on tickets -half price or whatever- just to encourage.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 28, 2019, 11:17:44 AM

Well said. Stars like PV Sindhu and Sunil Chhetri are just a couple of examples in this context. If India could allocate more funds towards other sports, they could emerge as a powerful nation in the Olympics like China.

I don't know why the other sports bodies are becoming like crybabies. The Indian government doesn't spend a penny in developing cricket in the country. On the other hand, it receives huge amount as taxes from the BCCI and the state boards. It is the BCCI (which happens to be a private body), which spends money on promoting cricket in India. But this is not true for the other sports. The other sports receive huge amounts of money as grant every year.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 09:37:01 AM

@Haunebu Similar to D/N ODI but pink ball instead of Red Ball.

Got it. The pink ball is probably easier to see under night conditions when compared to a red ball. I don't think many people would attend such events though due to their busy schedules though I still would like to some of these matches happen now and then.

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 28, 2019, 11:02:52 AM

India being a huge country we only produce world class cricket players but unable to built a world class players in other events because of the lack of facility, all the individual athletes who became world champions did so in their own effort and it is good to see that we are seeing more support to other sporting events which is healthy as everyone cannot be an international cricket player. Cheesy

Well said. Stars like PV Sindhu and Sunil Chhetri are just a couple of examples in this context. If India could allocate more funds towards other sports, they could emerge as a powerful nation in the Olympics like China.

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Quote from: romero121 on October 28, 2019, 10:36:16 AM

Now the cricket hunger nation is now getting moved towards other games. As a part now there is importance found for football.

India being a huge country we only produce world class cricket players but unable to built a world class players in other events because of the lack of facility, all the individual athletes who became world champions did so in their own effort and it is good to see that we are seeing more support to other sporting events which is healthy as everyone cannot be an international cricket player. Cheesy

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 28, 2019, 04:25:27 AM

I would suggest the BCCI to bring down the number of teams to 10 or 12 and this will improve the quality of first class cricket in India. Right now we have too many worthless and one sided matches in the domestic sector, such as Mizoram vs Mumbai and Nagaland vs Delhi. The smaller states needs to be given a chance, but why can't they compete as a combined side, rather than separate states?

If there are more teams more opportunity for players and more pool of players to select, so i am supporting more team rather than cut shorting these.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on October 28, 2019, 06:53:22 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on October 28, 2019, 04:11:14 AM

So? The number of teams does not matter much here. India is a Cricket hungry nation and their population is insane when compared to countries like Australia and England which is why it makes complete sense why they chose 37 1st class teams.

India currently has 29 states and seven Union territories, and that is why we have so many teams. Also, some of the states have more than one team (Gujarat is having 3 - Saurashtra, Gujarat and Baroda, and Maharashtra is also having 3 - Maharashtra, Mumbai and Vidarbha). And that is one of the reasons why we have the Duleep Trophy, in which the five zonal teams compete against each other.

Yes, it is a reason for having so many tournaments. India being a big country it is very hard to find the talented players out of it. Through these tournaments only young talents were identified. These days the same way of conducting matches between the states have been followed on other games.

Now the cricket hunger nation is now getting moved towards other games. As a part now there is importance found for football.

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 28, 2019, 09:42:42 AM

It's still good to promote in those states. Who knows what player we can get from there in future? Our country promotes cricket a lot and it's a good thing. We have a good cricket audience and having support from that side will also be good in having a good strength in cricket's audience.

We have enough finance to spend on so I would say it as a good investment.

I am originally from one of these smaller states (Mizoram) and currently living in another small state (Tripura). The Mizoram state team was allowed to participate in the Ranji Trophy for the first time only in 2018. Earlier the BCCI used to ignore these smaller states and all the funding used to go to the larger states. But now they are being forced to provide facilities to the players from the smaller states.

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 28, 2019, 02:50:07 AM

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I am not very happy with the domestic cricket structure in India. There are simply too many first class sides. 37 is just too many, and it drags down the quality of the game. In Australia, they have only 6 teams and the quality of the domestic cricket is perhaps the best in the world. Even in England, they have only 18 county sides. And in India, many of the states have as many as 3 first class teams (Gujarat, Maharashtra.etc).

I don't know why you think that having a large no. of sides effects the quality. But I would say it has benefitted us a lot as we are enjoying a larger pool of capable players. This enables the board to search some raw talents and prospects. So far it is going down we as it seems.

Obviously having 37 first class teams means a very large player pool. At the same time, the quality waters down and only a few of the first class sides (such as Karnataka, Mumbai, Delhi.etc) can compete with first-class sides from the other countries such as Australia and England. What is the point in having separate first-class sides for small states such as Chandigarh and Nagaland, when they can't compete against the established teams?

I would suggest the BCCI to bring down the number of teams to 10 or 12 and this will improve the quality of first class cricket in India. Right now we have too many worthless and one sided matches in the domestic sector, such as Mizoram vs Mumbai and Nagaland vs Delhi. The smaller states needs to be given a chance, but why can't they compete as a combined side, rather than separate states?

It's still good to promote in those states. Who knows what player we can get from there in future? Our country promotes cricket a lot and it's a good thing. We have a good cricket audience and having support from that side will also be good in having a good strength in cricket's audience.

We have enough finance to spend on so I would say it as a good investment.

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 28, 2019, 02:50:07 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 02:34:09 AM

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That's something new. Like the way board is thinking of trying to add something new and I really do hope this attracts the crowd. Slow format under the lights...let's see how it goes Cheesy

Quote from: Haunebu on October 28, 2019, 04:11:14 AM

This is great. I am expecting Bangladesh to agree. I wonder how the time of day affects the players since I never watched many of these matches.

Yeah its good one, though both boards are hypocrite if they play Day-Night match suddenly (they rejected idea of D/N test before) but fans doesn't care as long as its fun to watch and I have a feeling that we might see couple of more initiative from BCCI ; let's say fixed venues for Test Match.

@Haunebu Similar to D/N ODI but pink ball instead of Red Ball.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 28, 2019, 04:11:14 AM

So? The number of teams does not matter much here. India is a Cricket hungry nation and their population is insane when compared to countries like Australia and England which is why it makes complete sense why they chose 37 1st class teams.

India currently has 29 states and seven Union territories, and that is why we have so many teams. Also, some of the states have more than one team (Gujarat is having 3 - Saurashtra, Gujarat and Baroda, and Maharashtra is also having 3 - Maharashtra, Mumbai and Vidarbha). And that is one of the reasons why we have the Duleep Trophy, in which the five zonal teams compete against each other.

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 28, 2019, 02:50:07 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 28, 2019, 12:21:43 AM

I am not very happy with the domestic cricket structure in India. There are simply too many first class sides. 37 is just too many, and it drags down the quality of the game. In Australia, they have only 6 teams and the quality of the domestic cricket is perhaps the best in the world. Even in England, they have only 18 county sides. And in India, many of the states have as many as 3 first class teams (Gujarat, Maharashtra.etc).

I don't know why you think that having a large no. of sides effects the quality. But I would say it has benefitted us a lot as we are enjoying a larger pool of capable players. This enables the board to search some raw talents and prospects. So far it is going down we as it seems.

Obviously having 37 first class teams means a very large player pool. At the same time, the quality waters down and only a few of the first class sides (such as Karnataka, Mumbai, Delhi.etc) can compete with first-class sides from the other countries such as Australia and England. What is the point in having separate first-class sides for small states such as Chandigarh and Nagaland, when they can't compete against the established teams?

I would suggest the BCCI to bring down the number of teams to 10 or 12 and this will improve the quality of first class cricket in India. Right now we have too many worthless and one sided matches in the domestic sector, such as Mizoram vs Mumbai and Nagaland vs Delhi. The smaller states needs to be given a chance, but why can't they compete as a combined side, rather than separate states?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 28, 2019, 12:21:43 AM

I am not very happy with the domestic cricket structure in India. There are simply too many first class sides. 37 is just too many, and it drags down the quality of the game. In Australia, they have only 6 teams and the quality of the domestic cricket is perhaps the best in the world. Even in England, they have only 18 county sides. And in India, many of the states have as many as 3 first class teams (Gujarat, Maharashtra.etc).

So? The number of teams does not matter much here. India is a Cricket hungry nation and their population is insane when compared to countries like Australia and England which is why it makes complete sense why they chose 37 1st class teams.

Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 02:34:09 AM

Finally, Good news in regards of Day-Night Test and attracting more crowd. let's hope Bangladesh cricket board calculate all pro-cons and comes up with best decision.

India propose Day-Night Test at Eden Gardens; Bangladesh yet to confirm

This is great. I am expecting Bangladesh to agree. I wonder how the time of day affects the players since I never watched many of these matches.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 28, 2019, 12:21:43 AM

I am not very happy with the domestic cricket structure in India. There are simply too many first class sides. 37 is just too many, and it drags down the quality of the game. In Australia, they have only 6 teams and the quality of the domestic cricket is perhaps the best in the world. Even in England, they have only 18 county sides. And in India, many of the states have as many as 3 first class teams (Gujarat, Maharashtra.etc).

I don't know why you think that having a large no. of sides effects the quality. But I would say it has benefitted us a lot as we are enjoying a larger pool of capable players. This enables the board to search some raw talents and prospects. So far it is going down we as it seems.

Quote from: JSRAW on October 28, 2019, 02:34:09 AM

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That's something new. Like the way board is thinking of trying to add something new and I really do hope this attracts the crowd. Slow format under the lights...let's see how it goes Cheesy

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