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Quote from: Haunebu on November 01, 2019, 02:14:15 AM

I doubt this will make a big impact. The World Test Championship is a good idea to motivate people to come and watch matches, but it will only help in a small way. More people might come and attend the semis and the finals if they are happening in India.

Based on what I have observed, T-20 is the new norm associated with Cricket and I don't have any qualms about it since I love how entertaining this format is and is my favorite one in my opinion.

I agree. Day and Night test matches doesn't represent the solution to curtail the falling interest in test cricket. There was a reason why a great deal of interest was there for the recently concluded Ashes series. And the same reason can be attributed for the (relative) lack of interest for the India vs South Africa series, which also concluded at almost the same time.

What attracts the crowd is traditional rivalry. Ashes is more than a century old, and a lot of people are crazy about the England vs Australia rivalry in cricket. In the past, there were so many controversies (such as the Bodyline scandal) and this rich history keeps people interested. India vs Pakistan rivalry is also comparable, but the two teams haven't faced each other in more than a decade.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 01, 2019, 01:37:57 AM

People are not having time to spend time to see 5 days of cricket and the taste of audience changes as everything is instant now and test matches shows the real talent of a player and hence they are promoting the test matches and the ICC is trying their best to revive the audience interest by day night matches.

I doubt this will make a big impact. The World Test Championship is a good idea to motivate people to come and watch matches, but it will only help in a small way. More people might come and attend the semis and the finals if they are happening in India.

Based on what I have observed, T-20 is the new norm associated with Cricket and I don't have any qualms about it since I love how entertaining this format is and is my favorite one in my opinion.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 08:50:39 PM

Even within India, the audiences for test matches have gone down during the recent years. Two decades back, it was really difficult to get tickets for test matches even during weekdays. But now, empty stands are the norm unless it is a holiday or a weekend.

May be the introduction of IPL and the introduction of T20 had an impact on the audience interest and the new generation of viewers might not be interested in the longer format and hence we see empty seats even in India. Earlier India had some legendary players like Sachin and Dravid and people usually come to stadium just to see them and may be that is another reason.

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The traditionalists still want more and more test matches, but financially it makes little sense. There is no point in having these matches just to uphold traditions.

People are not having time to spend time to see 5 days of cricket and the taste of audience changes as everything is instant now and test matches shows the real talent of a player and hence they are promoting the test matches and the ICC is trying their best to revive the audience interest by day night matches.

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Hopefully test cricket lovers gonna enjoy this match. I am eagerly waiting to see this pink ball match although unluckily haven't got enough time to watch an entire test match. i think both team will get a new experience from this and test cricket will touch another level. Test cricket is loosing its popularity day by day where cricket lovers prefer to watch twenty/20 matches but this "Day-Night" format could change the current scenario.

India does have a bigger audience and if the day night test match is a success then we will see more day night matches around the world and the advertising revenue the ICC earns with every India match is higher and if they are able to attract more on air advertisement for test matches then it will be a grand success and hence this will be an important change.

Even within India, the audiences for test matches have gone down during the recent years. Two decades back, it was really difficult to get tickets for test matches even during weekdays. But now, empty stands are the norm unless it is a holiday or a weekend. The ticket prices have also increased by many times and not a lot want to spend $25 to watch the national team playing.

The ICC/BCCI are still ignoring the core issue. What the audience want is shorter matches with more action. Not many people can afford to stay away from work for 5 days consecutively in the modern world. The traditionalists still want more and more test matches, but financially it makes little sense. There is no point in having these matches just to uphold traditions.

This day and night test match is an experimental match, and BCCI will have to market it a lot otherwise people may give it a pass. I also feel we will see some empty stands during this match is because prices will be kept high considering it’s a day and night match, and BCCI will be keen to make more money out of it. If the Indian board really wishes to bring crowds back to the stands then they need to slash ticket prices, otherwise test cricket will slowly die out there.

Initially the crowd might come as it’s going to be new for few months for people to experience the day night matches . After certain time it would require more promotion or some entertainment for people to keep coming in the test matches as well to view the match .

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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 31, 2019, 10:07:44 PM

This day and night test match is an experimental match, and BCCI will have to market it a lot otherwise people may give it a pass. I also feel we will see some empty stands during this match is because prices will be kept high considering it’s a day and night match, and BCCI will be keen to make more money out of it. If the Indian board really wishes to bring crowds back to the stands then they need to slash ticket prices, otherwise test cricket will slowly die out there.

It is ridiculous to charge high ticket prices for the economy stands. The BCCI gets most of their revenue from TV rights and sponsorship and the gate receipts represent a very minuscule share. Even then, they can charge whatever they want for the premium stands. But I would request them to price the economy stand tickets at around $2 or $3 (compared to the current price of around $10). It can fill the stadiums even during the weekdays, as the Indians are really crazy about their national team.

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Hopefully test cricket lovers gonna enjoy this match. I am eagerly waiting to see this pink ball match although unluckily haven't got enough time to watch an entire test match. i think both team will get a new experience from this and test cricket will touch another level. Test cricket is loosing its popularity day by day where cricket lovers prefer to watch twenty/20 matches but this "Day-Night" format could change the current scenario.

India does have a bigger audience and if the day night test match is a success then we will see more day night matches around the world and the advertising revenue the ICC earns with every India match is higher and if they are able to attract more on air advertisement for test matches then it will be a grand success and hence this will be an important change.

Even within India, the audiences for test matches have gone down during the recent years. Two decades back, it was really difficult to get tickets for test matches even during weekdays. But now, empty stands are the norm unless it is a holiday or a weekend. The ticket prices have also increased by many times and not a lot want to spend $25 to watch the national team playing.

The ICC/BCCI are still ignoring the core issue. What the audience want is shorter matches with more action. Not many people can afford to stay away from work for 5 days consecutively in the modern world. The traditionalists still want more and more test matches, but financially it makes little sense. There is no point in having these matches just to uphold traditions.

This day and night test match is an experimental match, and BCCI will have to market it a lot otherwise people may give it a pass. I also feel we will see some empty stands during this match is because prices will be kept high considering it’s a day and night match, and BCCI will be keen to make more money out of it. If the Indian board really wishes to bring crowds back to the stands then they need to slash ticket prices, otherwise test cricket will slowly die out there.

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Hopefully test cricket lovers gonna enjoy this match. I am eagerly waiting to see this pink ball match although unluckily haven't got enough time to watch an entire test match. i think both team will get a new experience from this and test cricket will touch another level. Test cricket is loosing its popularity day by day where cricket lovers prefer to watch twenty/20 matches but this "Day-Night" format could change the current scenario.

India does have a bigger audience and if the day night test match is a success then we will see more day night matches around the world and the advertising revenue the ICC earns with every India match is higher and if they are able to attract more on air advertisement for test matches then it will be a grand success and hence this will be an important change.

Even within India, the audiences for test matches have gone down during the recent years. Two decades back, it was really difficult to get tickets for test matches even during weekdays. But now, empty stands are the norm unless it is a holiday or a weekend. The ticket prices have also increased by many times and not a lot want to spend $25 to watch the national team playing.

The ICC/BCCI are still ignoring the core issue. What the audience want is shorter matches with more action. Not many people can afford to stay away from work for 5 days consecutively in the modern world. The traditionalists still want more and more test matches, but financially it makes little sense. There is no point in having these matches just to uphold traditions.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 31, 2019, 11:21:57 AM

You are right about the venue and the teams, but as per records the date was 27th November 2015 (i.e 2015-16 season). It was the last test of the 3-match series and the toss was won by Brendon McCullum of New Zealand, who chose to bat first. The match was really close, although Australia won by three wickets. None of the batsmen managed to score a century, and there were only three half centuries (Tom Latham for New Zealand, and Steven Smith/Peter Nevill for Australia). Hazlewood took 70/6 in the NZ second innings.

yeah, you are correct. But I was too lazy to google about the match and went with my memory Wink

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Quote from: TalkStar on October 29, 2019, 11:01:34 AM

Hopefully test cricket lovers gonna enjoy this match. I am eagerly waiting to see this pink ball match although unluckily haven't got enough time to watch an entire test match. i think both team will get a new experience from this and test cricket will touch another level. Test cricket is loosing its popularity day by day where cricket lovers prefer to watch twenty/20 matches but this "Day-Night" format could change the current scenario.

India does have a bigger audience and if the day night test match is a success then we will see more day night matches around the world and the advertising revenue the ICC earns with every India match is higher and if they are able to attract more on air advertisement for test matches then it will be a grand success and hence this will be an important change.

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Quote from: akhjob on October 31, 2019, 12:56:32 AM

Wow many things have changed during the last two days. But I don't think that this is the first pink ball test match. Maybe it's the first for India. But, if my memory serves right Australia and New Zealand played the first pink ball test in Adelaide back in 2013-14.

You are right about the venue and the teams, but as per records the date was 27th November 2015 (i.e 2015-16 season). It was the last test of the 3-match series and the toss was won by Brendon McCullum of New Zealand, who chose to bat first. The match was really close, although Australia won by three wickets. None of the batsmen managed to score a century, and there were only three half centuries (Tom Latham for New Zealand, and Steven Smith/Peter Nevill for Australia). Hazlewood took 70/6 in the NZ second innings.

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Quote from: akhjob on October 31, 2019, 12:56:32 AM

Wow many things have changed during the last two days. But I don't think that this is the first pink ball test match. Maybe it's the first for India. But, if my memory serves right Australia and New Zealand played the first pink ball test in Adelaide back in 2013-14.

This will be a new experience for Indian cricket fans and this experiment will showcase how the fans will respond in day night matches and whether they can attract the audience for Test matches, Australia and New Zealand played the first day night Test back in 2015 and only India is yet to play day night Test match while all the major teams already tried the game and day night matches will be played in the future too as Australia and Pakistan will be playing one in November and Australia and New Zealand is scheduled to play in December.

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Wow many things have changed during the last two days. But I don't think that this is the first pink ball test match. Maybe it's the first for India. But, if my memory serves right Australia and New Zealand played the first pink ball test in Adelaide back in 2013-14.

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Suddenly got the news of "Day-Night" test cricket match which will be hosted in Kolkata

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https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/110551/bangladesh-agree-to-play-day-night-test-in-kolkata

Hopefully test cricket lovers gonna enjoy this match. I am eagerly waiting to see this pink ball match although unluckily haven't got enough time to watch an entire test match. i think both team will get a new experience from this and test cricket will touch another level. Test cricket is loosing its popularity day by day where cricket lovers prefer to watch twenty/20 matches but this "Day-Night" format could change the current scenario.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 29, 2019, 09:14:33 AM

I don't understand the point in mixing politics with sports. Why can't we keep these two as separate? I understand that Indians (and the other South Asians such as Pakistanis and Sri Lankans) are very passionate about cricket. But historically, sports has been been used as a tool to cement friendship between various nations. But here it is being used for narrow political gains.

If you look at the history between India and Pakistan they use cricket as a tool to cement their animosity and the political system is involved with everything as it is a money grab as the amount of money they are making is huge and hence you see the political connection, this is not happening in Asian countries but happening in Zimbabwe and other countries.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 29, 2019, 09:14:33 AM

One positive thing is the election of Sourav Ganguly as the president of the BCCI. He is not involved in politics (although there are rumors linking him to a political party), and he is someone who had represented India in the past. But along with Sourav, a number of officials got elected who got their posts thanks to political connections (Jay Shah, Arun Singh Dhumal.etc).

The appointment of Sourav Ganguly is a positive thing that they did and he will some positive changes as the BCCI president and since he is not involved in politics he will do the best he can do to improve cricket.

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Okay Ladies and gents, We have green light for first D/N test match in India. Watch out for Dew though and its going to be big political event as well. Bangladesh and Indian PM both going to attend this match.

I don't understand the point in mixing politics with sports. Why can't we keep these two as separate? I understand that Indians (and the other South Asians such as Pakistanis and Sri Lankans) are very passionate about cricket. But historically, sports has been been used as a tool to cement friendship between various nations. But here it is being used for narrow political gains.

One positive thing is the election of Sourav Ganguly as the president of the BCCI. He is not involved in politics (although there are rumors linking him to a political party), and he is someone who had represented India in the past. But along with Sourav, a number of officials got elected who got their posts thanks to political connections (Jay Shah, Arun Singh Dhumal.etc).

Mixing politics with Sports- more precisely Cricket- has a long history in subcontinent so nothing new IMHO.

Just to be clear, its Ganguly first gig as BCCI's head and he used to be Eden Garden's administrator if i am not wrong so this all project is his baby and he want to make this series as grand as possible that's why he pitched the idea of first D/N match and manage to invite Bangladesh's PM and all former Bangladeshi cricketers (first test Ind vs Ban). Indian PM didn't gave any confirmation but i am sure he is going to visit as well.

about others that's what nepotism looks like.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 08:46:53 AM

Okay Ladies and gents, We have green light for first D/N test match in India. Watch out for Dew though and its going to be big political event as well. Bangladesh and Indian PM both going to attend this match.

I don't understand the point in mixing politics with sports. Why can't we keep these two as separate? I understand that Indians (and the other South Asians such as Pakistanis and Sri Lankans) are very passionate about cricket. But historically, sports has been been used as a tool to cement friendship between various nations. But here it is being used for narrow political gains.

One positive thing is the election of Sourav Ganguly as the president of the BCCI. He is not involved in politics (although there are rumors linking him to a political party), and he is someone who had represented India in the past. But along with Sourav, a number of officials got elected who got their posts thanks to political connections (Jay Shah, Arun Singh Dhumal.etc).

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Okay Ladies and gents, We have green light for first D/N test match in India. Watch out for Dew though and its going to be big political event as well. Bangladesh and Indian PM both going to attend this match.

Along with All Bangladeshi cricketers who played the first Ind vs Ban match back in 2000s i suppose.

Bangladesh agree to play Day-Night Test in Kolkata

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Looks like Ganguly is doing what the COA couldn't for quite a long time.

I have a feeling that Ganguly is just warming up. his real test is how he tackles ICC over financial setup(Past dues). Tax, ICC yearly events etc.

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If contract system is implemented in the Indian domestic cricket, then it will be a very welcome change. Right now, the players are paid based on the number of matches they play. For every 4-day match, an Indian domestic player receives a fixed salary of ₹140,000. For 50-over and 20-over matches, the salary is fixed at ₹35,000. This is not bad, and previously (until 2016-17), the wages used to be ₹40,000 and ₹10,000 respectively.

Now the problem with the fixed system is that the players are paid irrespective of their performance and match experience. For example, during the final of the recently concluded Vijay Hazare Trophy (payed between Tamil Nadu and Karnataka), both Karun Nair and Devdutt Padikkal received the same salary (₹35,000). The irony is that the former had scored a triple century for India, while the latter is yet to be considered as a permanent member of the Karnataka side.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 03:27:19 AM

Ganguly is in action mode and very welcome initiative by him, he's trying to strengthen domestic players economically and we can hope more competition among the first-class cricketer. i doubt if anyone wants to miss this boat.

BCCI will have 'contract system for first-class cricketers' - Sourav Ganguly

This is excellent news. Am expecting many players to train harder than ever now to earn these contracts. Always knew that Ganguly would do something useful as the President and he is moving in the right direction.

Seems like domestic cricketers will earn decent amounts based on what the article says. Looks like Ganguly is doing what the COA couldn't for quite a long time.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 29, 2019, 02:55:35 AM

I did observe students on more than one occasion and expected they were given free tickets to improve demand for these matches. If they love Cricket, they probably enjoyed the experience overall. Even if some students are not interested, they still got a day off even if they had to deal with food restrictions which is a plus point.

For students they are happy to see these international players but the real happiness comes when they are taken a day off from school and attend cricket matches will be a memorable event for these students and i am sure these students will enjoy these events like a picnic Cheesy

. I do not think that the school authorities will force anyone to attend these matches but all the students will be happy to bunk the school with full attendance in class.

Quote from: JSRAW on October 29, 2019, 03:27:19 AM

Ganguly is in action mode and very welcome initiative by him, he's trying to strengthen domestic players economically and we can hope more competition among the first-class cricketer. i doubt if anyone wants to miss this boat.

Confident that he will change cricket for the better and he is focusing to have more competition and life stability according to their skills and it is a wonderful move, Ganguly is the best choice for the post and these steps will strengthen the quality of players.

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