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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 28, 2024, 10:18:49 AM

Also, this match is very crucial for South Africa as by winning this match, they will keep their chances alive for the World Test championship (WTC).

I feel like Bangladesh will make a comeback in this second test to draw the series since they shouldn't be underestimated especially after defeating Pakistan recently as you mentioned yourself. Let's see what happens.

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on October 28, 2024, 12:23:25 PM

Well still I believe indian Gona comeback in second and third match to won the series as they have home ground advantage

Lmao! India already lost the second test and the series which is why your statement is hilarious. Get updated!

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on October 28, 2024, 12:23:25 PM

Well still I believe indian Gona comeback in second and third match to won the series as they have home ground advantage also they have history to have decent performance on home ground

Are you sure you are watching this India and New Zealand test series ? How can India come back in the 2nd test match when they have already lost it and New Zealand are leading the series 2-0.

Yes, we can think that India may come back in the last test match but that would only be a test match win. They have lost the series at home. Also Indian team batting hasn't been in good form recently. They have been making the lowest total like 46 and 156 in the two matches played so far and also in all the four innings played in the two matches, they were not able to cross 300+ runs. Only once have they made 462 in the 2nd innings of the first test. It shows they are seriously lacking in batting.

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Quote from: Rabata on October 27, 2024, 11:48:43 AM

Losing in the 1st match is acceptable but India's defeat in the 2nd match is difficult to accept. Because despite having such a good squad, India did not win the Test against the New Zealand team. India lost the Test series against New Zealand though the loss was normal because no batsman of the Indian team had any good performance. No batsman was able to score big.

Well still I believe indian Gona comeback in second and third match to won the series as they have home ground advantage also they have history to have decent performance on home ground and we have seen already that after terrible performance in first inning they really improve thier structure and performance in second innings so let suppose if they does same in first Inning then we will have completely different results. So underestimating indian Gona be a huge mistake for new Zealand. It's true that Latham become first New Zealand captain to beat Indian team on home ground but it can be thier last as management will work hardly on all his weaker zone of Indian to make sure not to repeat his previous results. May be they make some changes too in order to change thier strategy and mindset

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on October 28, 2024, 11:39:23 AM

Hope South Africa have enough idea about the Chittagong wicket and they must have noticed the previous series where Bangladesh and other teams have played. There are many differences between the condition of Dhaka and the condition of Chittagong. In Dhaka conditions spin bowlers always get extra advantage and runs are always less on Dhaka wickets which is not seen on Chittagong wickets. If a team plays with additional fast bowlers in Chittagong then that team can get some advantage. If the batsmen can play responsibly then we will definitely see good scores from both the teams. Tomorrow the second test match between Bangladesh and South Africa is going to be held where Bangladesh is playing in home conditions but I am putting South Africa ahead in this match.

Mirpur's pitch and Chittagong's pitch are completely different. Mirpur's pitch is spin bowling friendly. And it's very difficult to collect big on this pitch. On the other hand, Chittagong's pitch is not spin friendly. Pace bowlers have some advantage on this pitch. However, the pitch is not entirely conducive to pace bowling. If the batsmen bat responsibly, big collections are possible on the Chittagong pitch.

However, South Africa are an experienced team. They are certainly well aware of the pitch in Chittagong. Bangladesh is much more experienced than South Africa in Test format. It is expected that we will see South Africa win in the second test match as well.

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The second and final Test match is scheduled to start on 29th and if the weather conditions are normal then we will see the start of the game at the appointed time.

Bangladesh team lacks patient batsmen so these batsmen need to be completed quickly, although Bangladesh team is very ahead in terms of bowling. And the South African team must defeat the Bangladesh team in this match then the match will be tied. So I hope that the Bangladesh team will definitely perform aggressively in this second match.

Earlier I used to think that Bangladesh is very popular and strong in cricket but this idea has completely changed for me. Currently, Afghanistan is more popular and strong in cricket than Bangladesh, especially yesterday the team became the champion in Afghanistan in the acc championship Asia Cup. Afghanistan beat strong teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, India to become champions where Bangladesh were eliminated from the group stage. The way Bangladesh is being miserably defeated by South Africa at its own venue makes it a big concern where Bangladesh stands in Tests.

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Exactly the second test game b/w South Africa and Bangladesh teams will start tomorrow at Chattogram, and this pitch is a batting friendly pitch that will give more favorites for the batsmen. From the Bangladesh side, jaker ali ruled out from yeam dueto injury, Bangladeshi fast bowler's Nahid Rana may get a chance to join the team instead of him. Temba Bavuma, skipper of South Africa, was ruled out from the South African side due to injury Lungi Ngidi may get a chance to join the team in his place. Aiden Markram will take over the captaincy of the South Africa team after Temba Bavuma is out of the team. South Africa will try to win the second Test match and clean sweep Bangladesh 2-0, winning the series and keeping their chances alive to qualify for the final of the World Test Championship.

Chittagong's pitch has always been batting friendly and pace bowlers have more advantages than spinners. In the 2nd and final match against South Africa tomorrow, Bangladesh may drop a spinner and swing a pace bowler. In this case Naheed Rana can be seen on the field instead of Naeem Islam. As Jaker Ali, who scored a fifty in the first match, has been ruled out of the squad due to injury, Mahidul Islam, who got a chance in the squad instead, could be seen swinging or they could add a bowling option. I think that in a batting friendly ground like Chittagong, we should go into the field with 3 paces. Bangladesh team must understand the PC situation and form the team.

We may not see any changes in the South African team at the top. They can enter the field to play the 2nd and last match against Bangladesh at the Chittagong ground with unchanged swing. I don't give too much importance to the toss in the Chittagong ground, but the first innings batting swing will have a bit more advantage. I think the team that toss must decide to bat.

Hope South Africa have enough idea about the Chittagong wicket and they must have noticed the previous series where Bangladesh and other teams have played. There are many differences between the condition of Dhaka and the condition of Chittagong. In Dhaka conditions spin bowlers always get extra advantage and runs are always less on Dhaka wickets which is not seen on Chittagong wickets. If a team plays with additional fast bowlers in Chittagong then that team can get some advantage. If the batsmen can play responsibly then we will definitely see good scores from both the teams. Tomorrow the second test match between Bangladesh and South Africa is going to be held where Bangladesh is playing in home conditions but I am putting South Africa ahead in this match.

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Quote from: Farhan99 on October 28, 2024, 10:39:09 AM

Exactly the second test game b/w South Africa and Bangladesh teams will start tomorrow at Chattogram, and this pitch is a batting friendly pitch that will give more favorites for the batsmen. From the Bangladesh side, jaker ali ruled out from yeam dueto injury, Bangladeshi fast bowler's Nahid Rana may get a chance to join the team instead of him. Temba Bavuma, skipper of South Africa, was ruled out from the South African side due to injury Lungi Ngidi may get a chance to join the team in his place. Aiden Markram will take over the captaincy of the South Africa team after Temba Bavuma is out of the team. South Africa will try to win the second Test match and clean sweep Bangladesh 2-0, winning the series and keeping their chances alive to qualify for the final of the World Test Championship.

Chittagong's pitch has always been batting friendly and pace bowlers have more advantages than spinners. In the 2nd and final match against South Africa tomorrow, Bangladesh may drop a spinner and swing a pace bowler. In this case Naheed Rana can be seen on the field instead of Naeem Islam. As Jaker Ali, who scored a fifty in the first match, has been ruled out of the squad due to injury, Mahidul Islam, who got a chance in the squad instead, could be seen swinging or they could add a bowling option. I think that in a batting friendly ground like Chittagong, we should go into the field with 3 paces. Bangladesh team must understand the PC situation and form the team.

We may not see any changes in the South African team at the top. They can enter the field to play the 2nd and last match against Bangladesh at the Chittagong ground with unchanged swing. I don't give too much importance to the toss in the Chittagong ground, but the first innings batting swing will have a bit more advantage. I think the team that toss must decide to bat.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 27, 2024, 05:05:18 PM

Seems like Pakistan are looking to go with the same old players and would not give a chance to Sajid Khan and Noman Ali for the tour to Australia. The only significant change I see is that Baber Azam stepping down as the captain and Muhammad Rizwan will be given the opportunity to lead the Pakistan Cricket team. Since Australia has fast pitches, it seems justified to include Shaheen Shan and Naseem Shah in the playing XI.

The Australia tour will begin on November 04 and right after that, they will be going on the Zimbabwe tour that will start on 24 November.

Yes you are right Pakistan team selection for Australia tour is questionable. They are choosing familiar players instead of giving new talent chance. Leaving out Sajid Khan and Noman Ali might slow team progress. However Babar Azam stepping down as captain and Muhammad Rizwan taking over brings new leadership. And choosing Shaheen Shah and Naseem Shah for Australia fast pitches is smart. They are fast bowlers.
So let's see what will Pakistan do in this tour. The squad is old and I don't think they will Play better because this squad is already struggling.

Pakistan is technically imbalanced country with win or lost never have any impact on their system usually they go with their own interest same happening as Gary Kirsten resigned, and we are heading for the toughest tour of Australia.

Most chances we will be having another whitewash because currently things are not ideal for them to face team like Australia which always exposed their opponents and give them good lesson for their weakness.
If Pakistan wants to have better consistency and quality they needed to be end grouping and also have better selection system which bring skilled and quality players from their domestic system which is full of talented players but have no chance for long time.

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Quote from: Rabata on October 27, 2024, 11:48:43 AM

Losing in the 1st match is acceptable but India's defeat in the 2nd match is difficult to accept. Because despite having such a good squad, India did not win the Test against the New Zealand team. India lost the Test series against New Zealand though the loss was normal because no batsman of the Indian team had any good performance. No batsman was able to score big. Captain Rohit Sharma who returned for zero runs. Kohli returns with just 1 run. If this was the case with the prominent players then the rest should have been worse but they played well from that position. Santner will be discussed because he was the only bowler who took 7 wickets. Only 1 person in a team can destroy the whole team by means of serious bowling. That's why New Zealand easily won the entire series by winning the 2nd Test match.

India is the busiest team in cricket world with usually they have T20I and ODI's which prevent them from red ball which give them setback into this series even they were playing with their best 11 players but sadly things gone not right, and they lost 2 test matches against average New Zealand side with also lost their first ever test series at home in decades.

Now, it's time for them to have few changes in this format as well because few players fail to deliver which is surely questionable for them, they have one of the biggest players pool which can give them good results as well.

For New Zealand, Mitchell Santner and Rachin Ravindra are key players as they give them good performance with ball and bat this is going to be one of the best month for New Zealand cricket as they win first ever Women's T20i World Cup and now series in India against India which is also historic win.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on October 27, 2024, 11:07:28 AM

The second and final Test match is scheduled to start on 29th and if the weather conditions are normal then we will see the start of the game at the appointed time.

There are some questions about the squad of the Bangladesh team, because after the opening batsman enters the field, the later players cannot perform well. If two of the opening batsmen are broken then four or five consecutive wickets fall in a short period of time, such a performance is aimed at Bangladesh team's first Test match. And in the second innings of the first test match these two players Zaker Ali and Mehdi Hasan Miraj performed well and other players performed very badly.

Bangladesh team lacks patient batsmen so these batsmen need to be completed quickly, although Bangladesh team is very ahead in terms of bowling. And the South African team must defeat the Bangladesh team in this match then the match will be tied. So I hope that the Bangladesh team will definitely perform aggressively in this second match.

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Quote from: laijsica on October 27, 2024, 11:11:53 PM

With a strong batting line like India, they failed to show their good performance. They scored only 156 runs in the first innings and 245 in the second innings, which is one of the reasons for their defeat. In addition Mitchell Santner took 13 wickets in both innings which led to a batting disaster for the Indian team. Despite this victory, after 12 years, the host India lost the Test series to New Zealand with one match in hand. The most surprising thing is that the best batsman in the world like Virat Kohli, he scored only 1 run in the first innings and was able to score only 17 runs in 40 balls in the second innings. In addition, Rohit was out for zero runs in the first innings and could only score 8 runs in the second innings which does not do justice to their name.

New Zealand did not do well with the bat, but bowled well as a result of which they won the Test series on India.

Yes India again lost the 2 nd test game and they also lost this series by New Zealand team. In both game, we noticed that India did not play well in batting line in both games and in all innings. Indian best player and best batter did not grab runs for India team to win the game like Kohli, Sharma, Pant etc. In 2 nd game and in 1 st Inning of india, Indian team made only 156 runs and most good players did not play well like Rohit lost wicket for 0 run. Kohli made 1 runs and also some more player Ashwin, Pant these are also not showing their great effort. New Zealand bowlers made good progress in both games and both games were won by New Zealand team due to great bowlers struggle. Santer picked up 7 wickets of India team and they bowled 19.3 overs and gave 53 runs. Glenn dismissed 2 wickets in 6 overs and gave 26 runs. In 2 nd line bowling of New Zealand team, again Santer dismissed 6 wickets and got a player of game award because of his amazing bowling effort.

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Quote from: Out of mind on October 28, 2024, 10:04:06 AM

The second test match of South Africa vs Bangladesh will be played today, although the performance of the South African team is quite good in this match. In that case I think the second test match if South Africa team can play well from the start and keep Bangladesh under pressure then this match will bring good things for them.
Moreover, we have seen that the first test match won brilliantly, South Africa in that case Bangladesh team will have more chances to win the second test match, but I think South Africa team will play well in this match as well. And currently, the way Bangladesh team players are playing, they are not much better than the South African team's game has improved a lot.And if the South African team can follow up their good performance against Bangladesh, they will definitely have a chance to win the series.

Exactly the second test game b/w South Africa and Bangladesh teams will start tomorrow at Chattogram, and this pitch is a batting friendly pitch that will give more favorites for the batsmen. From the Bangladesh side, jaker ali ruled out from yeam dueto injury, Bangladeshi fast bowler's Nahid Rana may get a chance to join the team instead of him. Temba Bavuma, skipper of South Africa, was ruled out from the South African side due to injury Lungi Ngidi may get a chance to join the team in his place. Aiden Markram will take over the captaincy of the South Africa team after Temba Bavuma is out of the team. South Africa will try to win the second Test match and clean sweep Bangladesh 2-0, winning the series and keeping their chances alive to qualify for the final of the World Test Championship.

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Quote from: Out of mind on October 28, 2024, 10:04:06 AM

The second test match of South Africa vs Bangladesh will be played today, although the performance of the South African team is quite good in this match. In that case I think the second test match if South Africa team can play well from the start and keep Bangladesh under pressure then this match will bring good things for them.
Moreover, we have seen that the first test match won brilliantly, South Africa in that case Bangladesh team will have more chances to win the second test match, but I think South Africa team will play well in this match as well. And currently, the way Bangladesh team players are playing, they are not much better than the South African team's game has improved a lot.And if the South African team can follow up their good performance against Bangladesh, they will definitely have a chance to win the series.

Tomorrow once again the days are coming for another test match, this time between South Africa and Bangladesh. This is the last game of this series as it was a 2 match test series.

In the last match, we saw Bangladesh as the loser but they did the good effort (in the 2nd innings). Also, we should remember that recently they won the two test matches against Pakistan, which is why they are still confident but after those series, they lost all the matches in the Indian tour and now struggling in the South African tour in Bangladesh but I hope tomorrow's game we will see something change, something good for the team Bangladesh.

Also, this match is very crucial for South Africa as by winning this match, they will keep their chances alive for the World Test championship (WTC).

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The second test match of South Africa vs Bangladesh will be played today, although the performance of the South African team is quite good in this match. In that case I think the second test match if South Africa team can play well from the start and keep Bangladesh under pressure then this match will bring good things for them.
Moreover, we have seen that the first test match won brilliantly, South Africa in that case Bangladesh team will have more chances to win the second test match, but I think South Africa team will play well in this match as well. And currently, the way Bangladesh team players are playing, they are not much better than the South African team's game has improved a lot.And if the South African team can follow up their good performance against Bangladesh, they will definitely have a chance to win the series.

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Quote from: Rustam Meraj on October 26, 2024, 11:08:11 AM

Excellent performance by Pakistani team especially their bowlers. And in bowlers their are two names which are shining at this time and their names are Sajid Khan and Nouman Ali. In the first innings Sajid Khan collected 6 wickets and Nouman Ali collected 3 wickets and in the second innings Sajid Khan collected to 4 wickets and Nouman Ali collected 6 wickets. Means these two players destroyed the England team and due to them Pakistan was able to win this match. Excellent played Pakistan. I hope they will continue this performance in the future too.

In the second innings when England was batting, it was looking as if Pakistani pacers just came here to do fielding because only Saim Ayub, Sajid Khan and Noman Ali bowled and as usual Noman Ali and Sajid Khan both used to pick wickets and England got the lead of just 36 runs that was chased by the Pakistan team in their second innings.

After a long time, the Pakistan team performed like this in test matches. In the next some time, another series of Pakistan is coming against Australia in which Babar Azam and Naseem Shah will come back to play those games as well.

Yes, You are right it's a huge achievement for the Pakistan team. They won a test series at home after a long time. This test series win credit goes to Pakistan spin bowlers Sajid Khan and Noman Ali, who picked 39 wickets out of 40 wickets in 2 test matches. Pakistan next series played against South Africa and next test match will be played in December 2024. Babar Azam is a class test player, and his presence on a fast bowling pitch is very crucial for Pakistan. South Africa is playing their test series in Bangladesh, and they won the first test match with a high 7 wickets victory over Bangladesh on a spinning track. The second match of series is started from tomorrow between South Africa and Bangladesh and I'm hoping that Bangladesh will comeback in this test match.

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Of course, the New Zealand team is powerful in its match, beating India at the Indian ground. Bowler Mitchell Santner played the main role of New Zealand team to win this match. He gave the best bowling performance in this match. Although his overs had a higher run rate, he took the highest number of wickets. A total of 6 wickets have been collected, and the wickets are aggressive batsman Rohit Sharma Shubman Gill, Yashasvi Jayswal these three batsmen are in the top order. And as the first physical trio of the attacking department fell, the Indian team began to tremble, and more wickets continued to fall, and finally the Indian team lost at home by 113 runs.

Yes that is right that New Zealand win over India on their home ground was very impressive. Mitchell Santner excellent bowling performance helped New Zealand win. By the way he gave away a lot of runs Santner took 6 important wickets including top Indian players Rohit Sharma Shubman Gill and Yashasvi Jaiswal. This weakened India batting lineup. When these three key batsmen got out early Indian team struggled. As a result India lost match by 113 runs which is significant margin. Santner performance made all the difference showing how skilled and important he is to New Zealand success.

With a strong batting line like India, they failed to show their good performance. They scored only 156 runs in the first innings and 245 in the second innings, which is one of the reasons for their defeat. In addition Mitchell Santner took 13 wickets in both innings which led to a batting disaster for the Indian team. Despite this victory, after 12 years, the host India lost the Test series to New Zealand with one match in hand. The most surprising thing is that the best batsman in the world like Virat Kohli, he scored only 1 run in the first innings and was able to score only 17 runs in 40 balls in the second innings. In addition, Rohit was out for zero runs in the first innings and could only score 8 runs in the second innings which does not do justice to their name.

New Zealand did not do well with the bat, but bowled well as a result of which they won the Test series on India.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 27, 2024, 05:05:18 PM

Seems like Pakistan are looking to go with the same old players and would not give a chance to Sajid Khan and Noman Ali for the tour to Australia. The only significant change I see is that Baber Azam stepping down as the captain and Muhammad Rizwan will be given the opportunity to lead the Pakistan Cricket team. Since Australia has fast pitches, it seems justified to include Shaheen Shan and Naseem Shah in the playing XI.

The Australia tour will begin on November 04 and right after that, they will be going on the Zimbabwe tour that will start on 24 November.

Yes you are right Pakistan team selection for Australia tour is questionable. They are choosing familiar players instead of giving new talent chance. Leaving out Sajid Khan and Noman Ali might slow team progress. However Babar Azam stepping down as captain and Muhammad Rizwan taking over brings new leadership. And choosing Shaheen Shah and Naseem Shah for Australia fast pitches is smart. They are fast bowlers.
So let's see what will Pakistan do in this tour. The squad is old and I don't think they will Play better because this squad is already struggling.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on October 26, 2024, 06:54:28 PM

India lost two consecutive matches, the first match was by 8 wickets and the second match was by 113 runs. Indian team fans never expected such a bad performance of Indian team on their home ground, although every team is strong at their home ground, India team was helpless against the bowling and batting of New Zealand team. Because India's batting performance is not good in bowling, the New Zealand team won the Test series. As the final third is unlikely to perform under pressure, a win for the Indian team will ultimately save some of their reputation. Because there is no possibility of Indian team winning on the soil of the country so far, but let's see how the Indian team can perform in the third match.

In the second innings of this second match, India was defeated by one bowler, Mitchell Santner who single-handedly picked up six wickets for the first three top-order batsmen who were the heart of India's run-scoring team.

This is due to their poor performance and not playing well even though New Zealand was their competition team and could have won the match. But they could not play well due to New Zealand's strength and pressure and would lose the match. India is still a strong and well playing team but still they could not win a single match. I will talk about India batting because like bowling, because it is a Test match, wickets are considered. They did not give a target above 300 in any innings. India should have played well after losing the first match and won the second match. Because they have already lost in this series, now don't be whitewashed by losing the third match. I had a lot of hope from them that they would change the first match but New Zealand didn't even let India play well. In the second match, New Zealand batsmen were not given much target but their bowling stopped the runs and focused more on the wickets and did not allow India to score runs and won the match.

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Quote from: Compromise me on October 27, 2024, 01:28:38 PM

Yes ,you are right. Pakistani International test cricket team won the series because of two players. Pakistani selectors should try new players for the next series because if they continue to do these mistakes then we will see the the result like we saw against Bangladesh test series. Pakistani ODI team will play next match against Australia in MCG stadium.I this Pakistani team will lose ODI series against Australia because Pakistan ODI team is very weak and Pakistan team has no quality players which will play well against Australia.Australia team is top class team of World and Pakistan team should try to win this series and that is upto selector because their selection plays major role in success.

Seems like Pakistan are looking to go with the same old players and would not give a chance to Sajid Khan and Noman Ali for the tour to Australia. The only significant change I see is that Baber Azam stepping down as the captain and Muhammad Rizwan will be given the opportunity to lead the Pakistan Cricket team. Since Australia has fast pitches, it seems justified to include Shaheen Shan and Naseem Shah in the playing XI.

The Australia tour will begin on November 04 and right after that, they will be going on the Zimbabwe tour that will start on 24 November.

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On the other hand, Pakistan struck gold by replacing veterans with bowlers like Ali and Khan. However, they won't qualify for the WTC final while India still has a decent shot which is what matters more at the end of the day.

Here was Pakistan's failure especially in terms of bowling selection where the Pakistan management made quite wrong decisions where Sajid Khan and Noman Ali should have been dropped in the first Test match. If Naseem Shah and Shaheen Afridi had been taken in the first match, Pakistan would not have been defeated in the first test. Moreover, it is the same reason for the whitewash with Bangladesh in the two-match Test series because if Sajid Khan and Noman Ali had been kept in the squad there, Pakistan would not have been defeated with Bangladesh.

Yes ,you are right. Pakistani International test cricket team won the series because of two players. Pakistani selectors should try new players for the next series because if they continue to do these mistakes then we will see the the result like we saw against Bangladesh test series. Pakistani ODI team will play next match against Australia in MCG stadium.I this Pakistani team will lose ODI series against Australia because Pakistan ODI team is very weak and Pakistan team has no quality players which will play well against Australia.Australia team is top class team of World and Pakistan team should try to win this series and that is upto selector because their selection plays major role in success.

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