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IMHO these sorts of excuses are not helpful, sure fans can speculate anything as far as they find justification because they need hope but for a professional player this shouldn't be a big concern, if it is then they are cheating themselves and everyone else.

They can try Mukesh but i think Krishna deserves another chance, yes he failed royally but sometimes it does happen and i feel he could be the next Ishant Sharma (the last leg of his career was amazing) saying this because BGT tour is on the line.

The batting lineup is kinda new so consider this as a transition period, during this timeline failure comes and at times it does look ugly but you have to give a long rope to youngsters even if they fail.

But India really needs someone to replace for the Pujara spot, right? And with the pool of talents available in India, it won't be that hard.

Yeah, I think Dravid also will back him because he said that he didn't expect much from the debutant and team totally failed whether its batting and bowling except few individual performances.

SA, has been well-prepared to make this happen and there is no wonder why Centurion is their fort.

Several of India's batting and bowlers need to be changed as India's top-order batsmen, especially Yashsasvi Jaiswal, Shreyas Iyer, Rohit Sharma failed in both innings in the first Test. They must be changed or else India will face a big challenge in the second Test as well. Defeated by an innings and 32 runs in the first Test, India's management definitely needs awareness, so maybe the Indian team management will change some players.

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Quote from: rojan on December 28, 2023, 09:31:26 AM

In the 2nd Test match of Australia vs Pakistan, Pakistan team scored 264 runs in 73.5 overs losing 10 wickets in 1st Innings. Australia team scored 318 runs in 96.5 overs losing 10 wickets. Australia team is leading by 241 runs. Lyon took 4 wickets with 73 runs in 18.5 overs. Cummins took 5 wickets with 48 runs in 20 overs. Australia team bowlers Lyon and Cummins gave excellent performances which put Pakistan batsmen under pressure.

Australian International test cricket team is dominant on Pakistani team and Australian team will this match easily . Two days are remaining of 2nd test match between Australian International team and Pakistani International test cricket team. Australian should make a score of 350 runs and then they give batting to Pakistani International cricket team. Pakistani would not chase this type of big. They will all out by making only 150 runs and Australian International test cricket team has capacity to all team out on 150 runs . There is very tough time for Pakistani International cricket team. They should draw this match and practically that is not possible and Australian International cricket team will be victorious and they will lift the cup . And they deserve this.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 28, 2023, 01:32:10 PM

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IMHO these sorts of excuses are not helpful, sure fans can speculate anything as far as they find justification because they need hope but for a professional player this shouldn't be a big concern, if it is then they are cheating themselves and everyone else.

They can try Mukesh but i think Krishna deserves another chance, yes he failed royally but sometimes it does happen and i feel he could be the next Ishant Sharma (the last leg of his career was amazing) saying this because BGT tour is on the line.

The batting lineup is kinda new so consider this as a transition period, during this timeline failure comes and at times it does look ugly but you have to give a long rope to youngsters even if they fail.

But India really needs someone to replace for the Pujara spot, right? And with the pool of talents available in India, it won't be that hard.

Yeah, I think Dravid also will back him because he said that he didn't expect much from the debutant and team totally failed whether its batting and bowling except few individual performances.

SA, has been well-prepared to make this happen and there is no wonder why Centurion is their fort.

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The final result of 1st test match between South Africa vs India is updated. South Africa won by an innings with 32runs which is a big thing. Cause india couldn't reached the target even by playing two innings together what South Africa had scored 408/10 in one inning. This time South Africa was stronger enough, played excellent from begging and able to stopped top batsman within few run where Kagiso Rabada got 5w but fortunately KL Rahul made his brilliant century. But Dean Elgar scored 185 and became great contributor for SA. In 2nd inning of india, they also failed to bat well. Although kohli made 76 run this time otherwise india score could be 55 something. KL Rahul and Kohli both played well for india, tried their best but lost the match.

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Quote from: leonair on December 28, 2023, 09:41:09 AM

Quote from: rojan on December 28, 2023, 09:31:26 AM

In the 2nd Test match of Australia vs Pakistan, Pakistan team scored 264 runs in 73.5 overs losing 10 wickets in 1st Innings. Australia team scored 318 runs in 96.5 overs losing 10 wickets. Australia team is leading by 241 runs. Lyon took 4 wickets with 73 runs in 18.5 overs. Cummins took 5 wickets with 48 runs in 20 overs. Australia team bowlers Lyon and Cummins gave excellent performances which put Pakistan batsmen under pressure.

It is natural that Pakistan will be under pressure because Pakistan is a much weaker team than Australia. Pakistan lost the last match by a huge margin but in today's match, although they are much smaller so far, Australia still have 4 more wickets to play. And all Australian players are playing well so it is expected that they can collect atleast 100 more runs in the remaining 4 wickets then their total number of runs in 2nd innings will be 287+ out of which they lead in 1st innings by 54 runs then Pakistan will have to collect more than 350 runs to win the match. May need to win the match in the 2nd innings. It is natural that this will put a lot of pressure on Pakistan players

Here I do not agree with you about this; Pakistan is weaker side they are having quality bowlers and batsmen which can bring better results but their structure and system is not allowing them to have better development which create problems for them specially on SENA tours because their system is not having any pitches like we have here in Australia so they are not able to use conditions as they need to do with this all still in today third days play we have good approach from them but sadly again we have another drop catch from Abdullah Shafique which change the match momentum from Pakistan to Australia while he drops Mitchell Marsh which hit good ninety again after first test win his second good score.

We have well-balanced match with now Australia is favourite for the win because Pakistani batting is not good to chase target if they are going to touch 300+ but if we have quick wickets then surely few can expect some entertainment in last few sessions.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on December 28, 2023, 11:14:10 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on December 28, 2023, 10:12:07 AM

Oh well, it wasn't a contest at all. It's called bullying the guest and i guess that's how Proteas feel when they visit India.

Bowling paradise but opposition batters outbatted the visitors and our bowling unit just looked toothless, hard to compete when only 2 bowlers are turning up at the job. I had high hopes for the debutant but he failed miserably and the opposition took him to the cleaner. Lord also needs some soul searching and also needs to learn a thing or two about this mortal world, if not then just rip off the golden arm. No complaints to Anna, he did his job well with the ball.

On batting, oh boy! No defense for this club level batting.

Dominance of white ball cricket clearly showcased today's performance.

India failed to switch to Red ball format batting even after one month break since WC ended, KL and Virat who are technically strong knew how to switch, but all others were clueless and youngsters failed to prove even with their long first class career in India. Not many options left in the bench either for second test match unless they decide to give an opportunity for Mukesh to debut.

India really needs to groom some batters especially for Test and Pujara may not play any further team so India need to find some experienced players from domestic and groom them for International test team alone or else India will face such humiliation while playing against SENA in test series.

IMHO these sorts of excuses are not helpful, sure fans can speculate anything as far as they find justification because they need hope but for a professional player this shouldn't be a big concern, if it is then they are cheating themselves and everyone else.

They can try Mukesh but i think Krishna deserves another chance, yes he failed royally but sometimes it does happen and i feel he could be the next Ishant Sharma (the last leg of his career was amazing) saying this because BGT tour is on the line.

The batting lineup is kinda new so consider this as a transition period, during this timeline failure comes and at times it does look ugly but you have to give a long rope to youngsters even if they fail.

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Sad to see India going downhill these days in literally every format. The new gen players aren't really exciting and lack a lot when compared to legends like Virat, Rohit, Bumrah etc in my opinion.

Also, Shami should have been a part of the bowling lineup instead of Krishna or Shardul since we all know how devastating he can be in literally every format.

India levelled the T20I series and won ODI series in this tour few days ago, so I don't know what do you mean they are going downhill in every format.

And a lot of you guys were saying Shami should have played, but he was part of the squad, and he got injured so now he is replaced, that is why we didn't see him in this match.

Indian players are playing well in ODI series and T20 series. And in both formats they dominated and won. The Indian team had a great performance in the T20 series against Australia. It was beyond my imagination to see them deteriorate like this in the Test format. I thought the match would be competitive despite the poor batting in the first innings. But the Indian team was defeated by an innings. Apart from Kohli, no other batsman in the squad can bat well. India has a lot of talented batsmen in its squad. Even then they could not survive at the crease against the South African bowlers. India lost all their wickets in just 34.1 overs.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 28, 2023, 11:23:07 AM

Sad to see India going downhill these days in literally every format. The new gen players aren't really exciting and lack a lot when compared to legends like Virat, Rohit, Bumrah etc in my opinion.

Also, Shami should have been a part of the bowling lineup instead of Krishna or Shardul since we all know how devastating he can be in literally every format.

India levelled the T20I series and won ODI series in this tour few days ago, so I don't know what do you mean they are going downhill in every format.

And a lot of you guys were saying Shami should have played, but he was part of the squad, and he got injured so now he is replaced, that is why we didn't see him in this match.

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In the first Test match against South Africa, the Indian team scored 245 runs on the first day and lost a complete wicket. Next South Africa chased down India's target of 408 runs, which was truly a remarkable batting performance from South Africa. However, India lost all their wickets for 131 runs to fill South Africa's lead on the third day and South Africa lead by 32 runs today. In today's match the batsmen of the Indian team had a very bad batting performance due to which they did not play very well from the beginning till the end they were all out. Of course I think South Africa will play well in the second innings and beat India in the first Test match.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 28, 2023, 11:23:07 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on December 28, 2023, 10:12:07 AM

Oh well, it wasn't a contest at all. It's called bullying the guest and i guess that's how Proteas feel when they visit India.

Bowling paradise but opposition batters outbatted the visitors and our bowling unit just looked toothless, hard to compete when only 2 bowlers are turning up at the job. I had high hopes for the debutant but he failed miserably and the opposition took him to the cleaner. Lord also needs some soul searching and also needs to learn a thing or two about this mortal world, if not then just rip off the golden arm. No complaints to Anna, he did his job well with the ball.

On batting, oh boy! No defense for this club level batting.

Sad to see India going downhill these days in literally every format. The new gen players aren't really exciting and lack a lot when compared to legends like Virat, Rohit, Bumrah etc in my opinion.

Also, Shami should have been a part of the bowling lineup instead of Krishna or Shardul since we all know how devastating he can be in literally every format.

Both the Indian bowling and batting side failed miserably. Dean Elgar played an amazing 185 runs which was more than India’s 2nd innings run and almost half of the runs India scored in two innings combined. Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill, Jaiswal, Iyer, and other batsmen of India couldn't do much. Bumrah performed the way expected him to but the others let me down from the bowling unit. I thought this match would have been a 10vs11. But the Protease definitely proved me wrong by crushing the whole Indian team. India looked very miserable.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 28, 2023, 10:12:07 AM

Oh well, it wasn't a contest at all. It's called bullying the guest and i guess that's how Proteas feel when they visit India.

Bowling paradise but opposition batters outbatted the visitors and our bowling unit just looked toothless, hard to compete when only 2 bowlers are turning up at the job. I had high hopes for the debutant but he failed miserably and the opposition took him to the cleaner. Lord also needs some soul searching and also needs to learn a thing or two about this mortal world, if not then just rip off the golden arm. No complaints to Anna, he did his job well with the ball.

On batting, oh boy! No defense for this club level batting.

Sad to see India going downhill these days in literally every format. The new gen players aren't really exciting and lack a lot when compared to legends like Virat, Rohit, Bumrah etc in my opinion.

Also, Shami should have been a part of the bowling lineup instead of Krishna or Shardul since we all know how devastating he can be in literally every format.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 28, 2023, 10:12:07 AM

Oh well, it wasn't a contest at all. It's called bullying the guest and i guess that's how Proteas feel when they visit India.

Bowling paradise but opposition batters outbatted the visitors and our bowling unit just looked toothless, hard to compete when only 2 bowlers are turning up at the job. I had high hopes for the debutant but he failed miserably and the opposition took him to the cleaner. Lord also needs some soul searching and also needs to learn a thing or two about this mortal world, if not then just rip off the golden arm. No complaints to Anna, he did his job well with the ball.

On batting, oh boy! No defense for this club level batting.

Dominance of white ball cricket clearly showcased today's performance.

India failed to switch to Red ball format batting even after one month break since WC ended, KL and Virat who are technically strong knew how to switch, but all others were clueless and youngsters failed to prove even with their long first class career in India. Not many options left in the bench either for second test match unless they decide to give an opportunity for Mukesh to debut.

India really needs to groom some batters especially for Test and Pujara may not play any further team so India need to find some experienced players from domestic and groom them for International test team alone or else India will face such humiliation while playing against SENA in test series.

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Quote from: leonair on December 28, 2023, 09:41:09 AM

Quote from: rojan on December 28, 2023, 09:31:26 AM

In the 2nd Test match of Australia vs Pakistan, Pakistan team scored 264 runs in 73.5 overs losing 10 wickets in 1st Innings. Australia team scored 318 runs in 96.5 overs losing 10 wickets. Australia team is leading by 241 runs. Lyon took 4 wickets with 73 runs in 18.5 overs. Cummins took 5 wickets with 48 runs in 20 overs. Australia team bowlers Lyon and Cummins gave excellent performances which put Pakistan batsmen under pressure.

It is natural that Pakistan will be under pressure because Pakistan is a much weaker team than Australia. Pakistan lost the last match by a huge margin but in today's match, although they are much smaller so far, Australia still have 4 more wickets to play. And all Australian players are playing well so it is expected that they can collect atleast 100 more runs in the remaining 4 wickets then their total number of runs in 2nd innings will be 287+ out of which they lead in 1st innings by 54 runs then Pakistan will have to collect more than 350 runs to win the match. May need to win the match in the 2nd innings. It is natural that this will put a lot of pressure on Pakistan players

Pakistan's main weakness is that their batsmen are not in good form right now. The performance of any batsman in the squad is not regular. Experienced batsmen like Imam Ul Haque and Babar Azam are not batting well. This is why the Pakistan team is under a lot of pressure against Australia. Australia collected 318 runs in their first innings, but Pakistan managed to collect 264 runs. After losing 6 wickets in the second innings, Australia collected 187 runs, and now they are leading by 241 runs. 300+ target is likely to be given by the Australian team. And the chances of Pakistan team scoring 300+ runs in the last innings and winning are now very slim.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on December 28, 2023, 09:31:18 AM

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Like India's first innings, the second innings too suffered a serious batting disaster at first. India batted in front of the lead of 164 runs given by South Africa and two wickets fell for 13 runs at the beginning. Rohit Sharma and Jaiswal failed in the second innings as well as in the first innings. If India collects even 300 runs in this innings then South Africa will definitely win this match. The first innings ended with just 245 runs as India's top-order batsmen failed and similarly the failure in the second innings made India's innings 250 in doubt.

India second innings 106/6
Nandre Burger collect 3 wickets. Only time will tell whether India might lose today's Test to South Africa by an innings. India need to collect 59 more runs to take the run lead.
India's only Virat Kohli has scored a half-century and nobody has been able to score as many runs. However, India lost one more wicket and India are now 7 wickets down for 106 runs.

After the South African team scored a massive 408 runs, I was sure that India would lose this match. Because India collected only 245 runs in the first innings. South Africa managed to take a big lead of 163 runs. But it was beyond my imagination that India would concede such a humiliating defeat. The Indian team could not even collect 163 runs in their second innings. India mustered only 131 runs in the second innings. Virat Kohli scored 76 and Shubman Gill scored 26 runs. Besides, none of the batsmen in the squad can collect 2-digit runs. 4 batsmen failed to add any runs to the scoreboard. Burger 4, Jansen 3 and Rabada take 2 wickets.

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Quote from: roksana.hee on December 27, 2023, 11:47:18 PM

Pakistan tour of Australia | 2nd Test, Melbourne, December 26 - 30, 2023

Day 3 - Session 2: Australia lead by 161 runs.

Wow, the cricket match sounds intense! Australia's lead of 161 runs is impressive, especially with the unexpected performance from the Pakistan bowlers. Losing 4 wickets is a setback, but if the Pakistani bowlers can continue their good form, it might limit Australia's lead to below 230. The key will be how well the Pakistani batsmen perform. Steven Smith and Mitchell Marsh's partnership on the pitch could be challenging for Pakistan, and a target of 350+ runs seems formidable. It's going to be an exciting match, and anything can happen in cricket!

in second inning Australia are 187/6 3rd day stumps off Alex Carey with 16 runs on the crease Australia lost their 4 wickets early on just 16 runs after that mitchel marsh handle situation and played 96 runs great inning also setve smith made fifty but unlucky lost his wicket on last ball of day 3 what a excellent bowling performance by team Pakistan on 3rd day they put pressure on Australia in start but 153 runs partnership of smith and marsh help Australia to comeback on this match shaheen afridi and Mir hamza both takes 3, 3 wickets Australia lead by 241 runs Pakistan need to takes remaining wickets tomorrow in morning session under 300 runs to won this match

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Oh well, it wasn't a contest at all. It's called bullying the guest and i guess that's how Proteas feel when they visit India.

Bowling paradise but opposition batters outbatted the visitors and our bowling unit just looked toothless, hard to compete when only 2 bowlers are turning up at the job. I had high hopes for the debutant but he failed miserably and the opposition took him to the cleaner. Lord also needs some soul searching and also needs to learn a thing or two about this mortal world, if not then just rip off the golden arm. No complaints to Anna, he did his job well with the ball.

On batting, oh boy! No defense for this club level batting.

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Quote from: rojan on December 28, 2023, 09:31:26 AM

In the 2nd Test match of Australia vs Pakistan, Pakistan team scored 264 runs in 73.5 overs losing 10 wickets in 1st Innings. Australia team scored 318 runs in 96.5 overs losing 10 wickets. Australia team is leading by 241 runs. Lyon took 4 wickets with 73 runs in 18.5 overs. Cummins took 5 wickets with 48 runs in 20 overs. Australia team bowlers Lyon and Cummins gave excellent performances which put Pakistan batsmen under pressure.

It is natural that Pakistan will be under pressure because Pakistan is a much weaker team than Australia. Pakistan lost the last match by a huge margin but in today's match, although they are much smaller so far, Australia still have 4 more wickets to play. And all Australian players are playing well so it is expected that they can collect atleast 100 more runs in the remaining 4 wickets then their total number of runs in 2nd innings will be 287+ out of which they lead in 1st innings by 54 runs then Pakistan will have to collect more than 350 runs to win the match. May need to win the match in the 2nd innings. It is natural that this will put a lot of pressure on Pakistan players

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In the 2nd Test match of Australia vs Pakistan, Pakistan team scored 264 runs in 73.5 overs losing 10 wickets in 1st Innings. Australia team scored 318 runs in 96.5 overs losing 10 wickets. Australia team is leading by 241 runs. Lyon took 4 wickets with 73 runs in 18.5 overs. Cummins took 5 wickets with 48 runs in 20 overs. Australia team bowlers Lyon and Cummins gave excellent performances which put Pakistan batsmen under pressure.

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Quote from: LDL on December 28, 2023, 07:49:18 AM

Like India's first innings, the second innings too suffered a serious batting disaster at first. India batted in front of the lead of 164 runs given by South Africa and two wickets fell for 13 runs at the beginning. Rohit Sharma and Jaiswal failed in the second innings as well as in the first innings. If India collects even 300 runs in this innings then South Africa will definitely win this match. The first innings ended with just 245 runs as India's top-order batsmen failed and similarly the failure in the second innings made India's innings 250 in doubt.

India second innings 106/6
Nandre Burger collect 3 wickets. Only time will tell whether India might lose today's Test to South Africa by an innings. India need to collect 59 more runs to take the run lead.
India's only Virat Kohli has scored a half-century and nobody has been able to score as many runs. However, India lost one more wicket and India are now 7 wickets down for 106 runs.

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Losing by an inning wasn't on the memo card and that too today lol

But good to see Indians treated and are being so nice to Elgar and gave him a farewell gift, such a nice gesture Grin

. Nothing went in India's way and they indeed got outplayed in every department, winning the series in South Africa will remain a pipedream for another 3-4 years.

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