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Quote from: 3kpk3 on December 01, 2023, 01:04:38 AM

Bangladesh looks like they will end up giving up a target close to 350 which is pretty good against the Kiwis as long as they bowl well. If they get Williamson early, the Kiwis are most probably screwed.

The first match should go to the Bongs as long as they do everything right in the 2nd innings.

Bangladesh in a good position at the moment. Lead now is 305 runs and only one wicket left behind. If Bangladesh has given a target of 350 then they will be in safe zone but a target of under 320 won't be safe, if your opponent is New Zealand. Still I would rate New Zealand favorite for this game, they have good spinning attack and pitch is supporting spinners.

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Bangladesh looks like they will end up giving up a target close to 350 which is pretty good against the Kiwis as long as they bowl well. If they get Williamson early, the Kiwis are most probably screwed.

The first match should go to the Bongs as long as they do everything right in the 2nd innings.

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Day 4 - Session 1: Bangladesh lead by 278 runs

Shanto's century and Mushfiqur Rahim's solid performance indeed seem promising for the team. It's unfortunate about Joy's dismissal, but as you mentioned, that's part of the game. Looking ahead, surviving the first session will be crucial, and if they manage to do so, it could set the stage for a substantial run total for Bangladesh. Let's hope the upcoming batsmen can step up and contribute significantly. Your expectation of at least 400 runs reflects optimism for the team's overall performance. Enjoy watching the match!

The next hope is Mehidy Hasan Miraz. He is playing well. If he performs well then it will be the winning score for Bangladesh. Best of luck Mehidy Hasan Miraz. Now his score is 18 from 37 balls.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on November 30, 2023, 09:07:05 PM

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The first innings of the Bangladesh team had the highest fall of wickets due to which the Bangladesh team got all out after scoring few runs. In this case, the New Zealand team is ahead in the first innings by a few runs, but in the second innings, the Bangladesh team has performed very well in this case by protecting the wicket and collecting 212 runs for three wickets on the first day of the second innings. Nazmul Hasan who is in batting form today scored a quiet century and Mushfiqur Rahim also scored 43 runs. If Mushfiqur Rahim collects only 7 runs, the half century will be completed. If the duo of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim can last for a long time then surely the Bangladesh team can collect a lot of runs and gift New Zealand a big run basket in the second innings.

Even in the first innings, Bangladesh's score was not bad, but in the second innings, Bangladesh's performance was much better. Najmul Hossain Shanto held his own for a long time and scored 104 out of 212 alone. Mushfiqur Rahim has also been playing very well and is yet to get out Bangladesh's performance looks really good. Now it remains to be seen how much New Zealand can handle Bangladesh although they pl toayed a bit better than Bangladesh in the first innings.

Bangladesh will definitely be able to perform well on the second day of the second innings. Meanwhile, Nazmul Hasan Shanta and Mushfiqur Rahim pair is very strong as they have spent the night at the end of the day, so the tired body has regained strength. Of course, like today's new day, they will perform beautifully, Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto will perform well, it is a lot of hope from Bangladesh. As the first innings New Zealand team is not much ahead. Our hope is that if the Bangladesh team can perform well today, then if they can collect more runs in the second innings, they will definitely be able to keep the New Zealand team under pressure. Because Bangladesh's bowling is also very strong.

That's the problem for Bangladesh, I don't know why Bangladesh's game gets messed up if there is a break. If Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim had batted a little longer yesterday, they would not have been out, but they were out at the start of the fourth day, meaning they had to start all over again on the fourth day. They didn't have the same confidence as on the third day due to a fresh start, which is why they lost 2 wickets quite quickly on the fourth day. In the second innings, Bangladesh scored 268 runs for five wickets, while Bangladesh is ahead of New Zealand by 261 runs. To win against New Zealand, this target has to be made bigger because if less than 400 runs are collected then it is not possible to win against New Zealand.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 30, 2023, 09:40:45 PM

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Bangladesh will definitely be able to perform well on the second day of the second innings. Meanwhile, Nazmul Hasan Shanta and Mushfiqur Rahim pair is very strong as they have spent the night at the end of the day, so the tired body has regained strength. Of course, like today's new day, they will perform beautifully, Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto will perform well, it is a lot of hope from Bangladesh. As the first innings New Zealand team is not much ahead. Our hope is that if the Bangladesh team can perform well today, then if they can collect more runs in the second innings, they will definitely be able to keep the New Zealand team under pressure. Because Bangladesh's bowling is also very strong.

Bangladesh is in a very comfortable position, with a lead of 205 runs with 7 wickets remaining. If they can add another 90-100 runs, then there is no chance for New Zealand win. The 4th wicket partnership between Mushfiqur Rahim and Najmul Hossain Shanto has so far added 96 runs, as once again the New Zealand spinners failed to do their job (Ajaz Patel and Ish Sodhi). Perhaps the New Zealand captain need to give more spells to his pacers (Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson), as the slow bowlers are not doing their job. But then the conditions are not very helpful.

I think Bangladesh is in a good position right now. Shanto has already got his century and he also has a senior campaigner alongside him, Mushfiqur Rahim who is on 43. I think if they can survive the first session, they are going to be able to put on a lot of runs for Bangladesh. I was actually a little sad to see how Joy got out. That was really unlucky. Otherwise, I think he could score, a really good amount of runs. But it is what it is. Now those who are going to come to bat will have to score and play properly. I am honestly expecting at least 400 from Bangladesh.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on November 30, 2023, 09:07:05 PM

Bangladesh will definitely be able to perform well on the second day of the second innings. Meanwhile, Nazmul Hasan Shanta and Mushfiqur Rahim pair is very strong as they have spent the night at the end of the day, so the tired body has regained strength. Of course, like today's new day, they will perform beautifully, Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto will perform well, it is a lot of hope from Bangladesh. As the first innings New Zealand team is not much ahead. Our hope is that if the Bangladesh team can perform well today, then if they can collect more runs in the second innings, they will definitely be able to keep the New Zealand team under pressure. Because Bangladesh's bowling is also very strong.

Bangladesh is in a very comfortable position, with a lead of 205 runs with 7 wickets remaining. If they can add another 90-100 runs, then there is no chance for New Zealand win. The 4th wicket partnership between Mushfiqur Rahim and Najmul Hossain Shanto has so far added 96 runs, as once again the New Zealand spinners failed to do their job (Ajaz Patel and Ish Sodhi). Perhaps the New Zealand captain need to give more spells to his pacers (Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson), as the slow bowlers are not doing their job. But then the conditions are not very helpful.

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The first innings of the Bangladesh team had the highest fall of wickets due to which the Bangladesh team got all out after scoring few runs. In this case, the New Zealand team is ahead in the first innings by a few runs, but in the second innings, the Bangladesh team has performed very well in this case by protecting the wicket and collecting 212 runs for three wickets on the first day of the second innings. Nazmul Hasan who is in batting form today scored a quiet century and Mushfiqur Rahim also scored 43 runs. If Mushfiqur Rahim collects only 7 runs, the half century will be completed. If the duo of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim can last for a long time then surely the Bangladesh team can collect a lot of runs and gift New Zealand a big run basket in the second innings.

Even in the first innings, Bangladesh's score was not bad, but in the second innings, Bangladesh's performance was much better. Najmul Hossain Shanto held his own for a long time and scored 104 out of 212 alone. Mushfiqur Rahim has also been playing very well and is yet to get out Bangladesh's performance looks really good. Now it remains to be seen how much New Zealand can handle Bangladesh although they played a bit better than Bangladesh in the first innings.

Bangladesh will definitely be able to perform well on the second day of the second innings. Meanwhile, Nazmul Hasan Shanta and Mushfiqur Rahim pair is very strong as they have spent the night at the end of the day, so the tired body has regained strength. Of course, like today's new day, they will perform beautifully, Mushfiqur Rahim and Nazmul Hasan Shanto will perform well, it is a lot of hope from Bangladesh. As the first innings New Zealand team is not much ahead. Our hope is that if the Bangladesh team can perform well today, then if they can collect more runs in the second innings, they will definitely be able to keep the New Zealand team under pressure. Because Bangladesh's bowling is also very strong.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on November 30, 2023, 03:26:33 PM

New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly.

Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.

A draw from this position will not be good for Bangladesh. They are 200+ runs ahead and when you know that New Zealand has to bat last and play to survive the test match, Bangladesh should go for a kill rather than just settle for a draw.

Seriously if Bangladesh aren't able to win this position, I do not expect anything from them. Also, a win for them will make the series which they cannot lose. So they may be going to the 2nd test match with much more conviction and confidence. This test match is crucial for the team's confidence and future.

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Lol not at all, i wasn't trolling or implying any kind of sarcasm in my statement. Having said that I won't discount the brain fade moment in cricket as it's a funny game.

I believe that SENA spinners are not equipped to perform when it's a competitive spin track. Even Warnie underperformed in the subcontinent throughout his career (especially against India) because of this very reason.

When SENA spinners play in sub-continent, it is always against sub-continental teams such as India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Because no one arranges matches between two SENA nations in sub-continent pitches. And no one plays spin bowling better than sub-continental batsmen. And this maybe one of the reasons why SENA spinners such as Warne always underperformed in the subcontinent. Anyway, back then Australia had quite a few quality spinners. Apart from Shane Warne, they also had Stuart MacGill and Brad Hogg.

The highlighted part is true for subcontinent teams also, when they play in SENA so it's not an argument IMO.

Stuart MacGill hardly played any series in India so can't judge him at all but i am sure if he had then he would have received the same treatment as late Warne. Brad Hogg was a white ball spinner, not a red ball and there is a reason he only played 7 test matches.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on November 30, 2023, 03:26:33 PM

New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly.

Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.

First innings BAN 310/all-out
First innings NZ 317/all-out
The first innings scored equal runs in this case the win or loss of this test will depend on the second innings. But Bangladesh got off to a great start in the second news and Bangladesh collected 213 runs losing 3 wickets in this case Bangladesh gave a lead of 205 runs. If Bangladesh can bat two more sessions today, Bangladesh's collection will lead to over 350 runs. So for now Bangladesh will have to bat a few more sessions to draw this match.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on November 30, 2023, 03:26:33 PM

New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly. Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.

1st day, new Zealand did great bowling & stranded as a strong team untill Bangladesh start bowling on 2nd day and today we got the result as both team did the samilar run equivalently. And the last update is bd scored 212/3 with 68 overs where Najmul Hossain Shanto did his brilliant performance after long time and done a century 104(193) and still not out. Mushfiqur Rahim also have done great and if they can continue their partnership, Bangladesh could reach more than 350 run this time. But new Zealand is good team and they have ability to beat the targeted score

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New Zealand and Bangladesh are evenly matched at the moment in the first test which is why it looks like it will most probably end in a draw. Bongs are performing nicely unexpectedly.

Williamson is back in form across all formats which is great news for the Kiwis in my honest opinion.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 30, 2023, 12:23:19 AM

New Zealand batted well enough. They managed to take a lead of 7 runs. I thought the team would lose all wickets before 300. The team was able to collect 317 runs with the help of captain Tim Southee's 35 runs.

Yeh NewZeland performance were quite bad as none of thier batter scored three digit rather then humble boy Williamson, which cost them a huge trouble in last stage of thier innings because they required much more runs and have just two wickets in hand and they were also not a experience batter but bowler, but thanks to southee and his partner who done a magnificent job and fill.the gap of required target. Now I think Bangladesh perfectly read pitch conditions and as a result they lose quick early wickets but now some of thier quality batters build a decent partnership which I think will help them them at least to took 350+ lead again NewZeland. I believe it will be a fair target for Bangladesh to defend as they have quality bowler and NewZeland has some bad experience which definitely shifts dominance toward Bangladesh and hope they will win first test too if NewZeland bat like they had done in his recent batting turn.

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Quote from: Jateng on November 30, 2023, 09:47:01 AM

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In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.

In 2nd inning Bangladesh scored 212/3 and 3rd day stumps off. BAN lead by 205 runs and 7 wickets remaining now. Captain Najmul Hossain on 104 and Mushfiqur Rahim on 43 are on the crease. NZ bowlers failed to take wickets in 3rd day only ijaz patel takes 1 wicket and 2 players are run out by southee and nicholls. NZ bowlers needs to take wickets early in first 2 session under 300 target. If Bangladesh lead 350+ and declare in 3rd session then it will be difficult for NZ to chase the target in last day and may be match have drawn.

Now today end of 3 rd day of this ICC test series between Bangladesh team and New Zealand team. In this test game, Bangladesh team today batted total 68 overs on pitch and scored 212 runs from 68 overs by losing 3 wickets. M.Joy batsman was dismissed from the ground in 2 nd inning and he scored only 8 runs in 46 balls. Z.Hasan scored 17 runs in 30 balls and he hitted two 4s. M.Haque 40 runs in 68 balls and he hitted four 4s. All of these batsman were dismissed from ground. M.Shanto and M.Rahim currently are batting on pitch and M Shanto performance was brilliant and he scored 104 runs in 193 balls with ten 4s. If both these batsman build up a strong batting partnership then these batsman set a decent target. Now Bangladesh team lead by 205 runs and they have a high chance for getting win.

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Quote from: rojan on November 30, 2023, 09:43:40 AM

In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.

op you are right. Mahmudul Hasan didn't bat that well today but Bangladesh team didn't face any problem due to that. Bangladesh ended the game today with 212 runs for three wickets. After a long time we saw the great partnership of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim. Although we Nazmul Hasan Shanta 2023 World Cup he played well. However, Bangladesh's 2023 World Cup was full of batting failures. We definitely want Bangladesh to win the Test series against New Zealand. It seems that the current situation of Bangladesh team's game. If the wickets of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim survive then New Zealand can be given a big run lead. And if the target of big runs can be given to New Zealand, then Bangladesh can win in the first innings if they bowl well.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on November 30, 2023, 09:55:18 AM

The first innings of the Bangladesh team had the highest fall of wickets due to which the Bangladesh team got all out after scoring few runs. In this case, the New Zealand team is ahead in the first innings by a few runs, but in the second innings, the Bangladesh team has performed very well in this case by protecting the wicket and collecting 212 runs for three wickets on the first day of the second innings. Nazmul Hasan who is in batting form today scored a quiet century and Mushfiqur Rahim also scored 43 runs. If Mushfiqur Rahim collects only 7 runs, the half century will be completed. If the duo of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim can last for a long time then surely the Bangladesh team can collect a lot of runs and gift New Zealand a big run basket in the second innings.

Even in the first innings, Bangladesh's score was not bad, but in the second innings, Bangladesh's performance was much better. Najmul Hossain Shanto held his own for a long time and scored 104 out of 212 alone. Mushfiqur Rahim has also been playing very well and is yet to get out Bangladesh's performance looks really good. Now it remains to be seen how much New Zealand can handle Bangladesh although they played a bit better than Bangladesh in the first innings.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 30, 2023, 10:32:14 AM

Lol not at all, i wasn't trolling or implying any kind of sarcasm in my statement. Having said that I won't discount the brain fade moment in cricket as it's a funny game.

I believe that SENA spinners are not equipped to perform when it's a competitive spin track. Even Warnie underperformed in the subcontinent throughout his career (especially against India) because of this very reason.

When SENA spinners play in sub-continent, it is always against sub-continental teams such as India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Because no one arranges matches between two SENA nations in sub-continent pitches. And no one plays spin bowling better than sub-continental batsmen. And this maybe one of the reasons why SENA spinners such as Warne always underperformed in the subcontinent. Anyway, back then Australia had quite a few quality spinners. Apart from Shane Warne, they also had Stuart MacGill and Brad Hogg.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on November 30, 2023, 09:08:55 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 30, 2023, 08:45:08 AM

I guess it's fair to assume that Bangbros are firm favorite for 1 up in this series.

It would be an insult to their batters if we are considering some sort of batting collapse tomorrow, especially against this spin attack. I've noticed this pattern, if the Subcontinent team produce any competitive spin deck or call it skill based track to SENA countries, their spinners fail 99.99% of the time. One of the main reasons "Doctored pitches" articles pop up all the time.

Well, I was expecting a batting collapse from Bangladesh as it's not odd for them. Credit to the Shanto and Mushfiq and Mominul too. But there is no reason to think they are safe at this moment. They can get packed in the next day's first session. We have two more days in hand which means we are not going to see a draw for sure.

Anyway, I am having a hard time understanding if you are also trolling them or not. Kindly help me understand if those were criticism. But, I have to agree with your statement too.

Lol not at all, i wasn't trolling or implying any kind of sarcasm in my statement. Having said that I won't discount the brain fade moment in cricket as it's a funny game.

I believe that SENA spinners are not equipped to perform when it's a competitive spin track. Even Warnie underperformed in the subcontinent throughout his career (especially against India) because of this very reason.

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Quote from: Jateng on November 30, 2023, 09:47:01 AM

Quote from: rojan on November 30, 2023, 09:43:40 AM

In the 1st Test match of Bangladesh vs New Zealand team, Bangladesh team came to bat again today. Scored 212 runs in 68 overs. But lost 3 wickets. Bangladesh team Mahmudul Hasan Joy did not bat well in today's match. Mahmudul Hasan Joy was dismissed for 8 runs off 46 balls.Zakir Hasan got out with 17 runs off 30 balls.Mominul Haque got out with 40 runs off 68 balls.Najmul Hossain Shanto started batting well today.Najmul Hossain Shanto scored 104 runs off 193 balls.Bangladesh team batsmen started performing well.

In 2nd inning Bangladesh scored 212/3 and 3rd day stumps off. BAN lead by 205 runs and 7 wickets remaining now. Captain Najmul Hossain on 104 and Mushfiqur Rahim on 43 are on the crease. NZ bowlers failed to take wickets in 3rd day only ijaz patel takes 1 wicket and 2 players are run out by southee and nicholls. NZ bowlers needs to take wickets early in first 2 session under 300 target. If Bangladesh lead 350+ and declare in 3rd session then it will be difficult for NZ to chase the target in last day and may be match have drawn.

In the Test match, two batsmen of Bangladesh were run out like fools. In the past too we have seen Bangladeshi batsmen batting like fools. Bangladeshi batsmen should bat more professionally.
The performance of New Zealand's bowlers is quite poor. Ajaz Patel managed to take a wicket after bowling 23 overs. He picked up the wicket of Zakir in the 13th over. After that, New Zealand's bowlers could not pick up any wickets. New Zealand should have added experienced spin bowlers to the squad. Because almost every pitch in Bangladesh is spin friendly.

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The first innings of the Bangladesh team had the highest fall of wickets due to which the Bangladesh team got all out after scoring few runs. In this case, the New Zealand team is ahead in the first innings by a few runs, but in the second innings, the Bangladesh team has performed very well in this case by protecting the wicket and collecting 212 runs for three wickets on the first day of the second innings. Nazmul Hasan who is in batting form today scored a quiet century and Mushfiqur Rahim also scored 43 runs. If Mushfiqur Rahim collects only 7 runs, the half century will be completed. If the duo of Nazmul Hasan Shanto and Mushfiqur Rahim can last for a long time then surely the Bangladesh team can collect a lot of runs and gift New Zealand a big run basket in the second innings.

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