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Quote from: LDL on December 01, 2023, 04:57:40 AM

BAN Vs NZ

Finally 6 wickets gone for New Zealand.
Bangladesh's successive spinner attack resulted in the fall of New Zealand's six wickets. There are many more overs left in today's third session and if the spinners become more aggressive, New Zealand will be all out today. It is very likely that New Zealand will not be able to play on the fifth day. Usually on the fourth and fifth day in Tests, batting becomes difficult and the spinners have an added advantage. Bangladesh is using this opportunity and they are succeeding. However, if Bangladesh can beat New Zealand today, another coveted Test win will be recorded. Picking up the next four wickets for Bangladesh became crucial for the desired win.

Today end of 4 th day of ICC test series between Bangladesh and New Zealand team game. In my opinion, first game of this series will be win by Bangladesh team because their bowling effort was brilliant and they told down seven wickets of New Zealand team at 113 runs only and 219 runs are left for chase in 96 overs and total target is 332 runs. New Zealand team batting effort was very poor and mostly batsman were dismissed below 10 runs. D.Mitchell batsman still batting on pitch and he scored 44 runs from 86 balls and he hitted five 4s and I.Sodhi batsman also not dismissed from crease, he scored 7 runs in 24 balls and he hitted only one 4s. If New Zealand won this game, they will secure current batsman but they have less chance to win this game.

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Quote from: MusaPk on December 01, 2023, 11:01:52 AM

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Bangladesh might get a taste of Test victory after a long time. Since Bangladesh managed to get out the top four New Zealand batsmen today, if Bangladesh can get out two out of the remaining six batsmen today, then New Zealand will be all out before the first station on the fifth day. However, New Zealand's best batsman Kane Williamson got out for a personal 11 runs today, due to which Bangladesh's chances of victory are very high. However, if there is fog on the wicket in the afternoon, it will be difficult to take wickets. So today, Bangladesh will have to lose two more wickets for the time being.

It will be a huge victory for Bangladesh. I don't remember when Bangladesh got a test victory against a strong side. On stumps day 4, NZ have lost 7 wickets and they need 219 runs to win. Still 90 overs to be bowled tomorrow and its very much obvious that Bangladesh will grab a victory here. Daryl Mitchell, the last recognised batsmen is on the crease. Hopefully we will have a result in first session of tomorrow's play.

When New Zealand lost 7 wickets for just 113 runs, it is definitely a good news for Bangladesh. In this tour of New Zealand, ODI series won by winning 2 matches. Bangladesh is trying their best to make it a one-match win in this Test and if they win the 1st Test, they will be encouraged to continue their winning streak in the 2nd Test as well. New Zealand need 219 runs in the current conditions but since they have already lost their good wickets it is natural to expect Bangladesh to win the match. Moreover, they need to get good momentum to overcome this huge score distance against them on Bangladesh home ground. If Daryl Mitchell lost his wicket early tomorrow the match may end early.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 01, 2023, 12:18:51 PM

Would you say the same thing if any sub continent team seems to be losing in SENA condition?

Discussion would be around how sub continent teams can't compete in seam-bouncy wickets and not just cricket pundits but fans too. IMO everyone should give credit to Bangladesh and accept the fact that they played good cricket and superior team in spin conditions against a big team like New Zealand.

These tours help underdogs like Bangladesh quite a bit which is good for their fans and cricket on the whole even though they don't attract many viewers outside Bangladesh. It was a proper test match if you ask me.

I didn't expect them to bounce back so nicely and I am expecting them to whitewash the Kiwis at this rate.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 01, 2023, 08:56:36 AM

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The game is almost over for New Zealand, as they need 219 runs, and only 3 wickets are left. Taijul bowled beautifully, and his fellow bowlers also did a pretty decent job with the ball. New Zealand should have fought till the end, but apart from Mitchell, no other batter looked comfortable against spinners.
A target of over 300 in sub-continent conditions in the 4th innings is almost impossible to chase. I think Bangladesh hasn't learned anything from their defeat in the World Cup. They should improve their pitches now to compete at the ICC tournaments.

Bangladesh should be able to wrap up the match in the first hour itself during tomorrow's play. New Zealand played well during the first two days. But from the third day onward they lost control. And this time they don't have any excuses for their poor performance, as they had fielded a full-strength side including heavy-weights such as Kane Williamson, Devon Conway, Tim Southee, Kyle Jamieson and Daryl Mitchell. Only major player who is missing is Trent Boult, but he announced his retirement from test cricket long time back.

Bangladesh done good job in Kiwis first inning batting and not allowed them to have any lead which helps them for doing good, and now they are on course to win this first test match which could be good start for them in this WTC cycle even hopes are not high for them in coming match specially away games but still they are doing good job without Shakib which is also good.

New Zealand is also doing good but on this spin wicket in second inning they badly down and out of the game which is surely big setback for them but have good time for fightback and bring this series on level now next match is going to start on 6th December at Shere Bangla National Stadium, Dhaka but good thing about this match we are heading for the result on fifth day which is good for the game.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 01, 2023, 09:57:12 AM

In the wider cricketing world, there is hardly any relevance for this series. New Zealand is once again performing poorly in sub-continental conditions, and Bangladesh doesn't gain anything by winning matches under helpful conditions. Matches like this one are the reason why test cricket is dying. And it's not like star players are not participating. In this match they had players such as Kane Williamson and Tim Southee taking part. But in the end, the outcome is as per expected lines and the only time when this match looked exciting for me was when Williamson scored the century.

Would you say the same thing if any sub continent team seems to be losing in SENA condition?

Discussion would be around how sub continent teams can't compete in seam-bouncy wickets and not just cricket pundits but fans too. IMO everyone should give credit to Bangladesh and accept the fact that they played good cricket and superior team in spin conditions against a big team like New Zealand.

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Bangladesh will definitely win this Test as Bangladesh's spin bowling has been so successful that 7 wickets have fallen for 113 runs. However, in the fifth day's play, Bangladesh will win only if they must fall the remaining three wickets in the first session. But it will be easy for Bangladesh to collect the rest of the wickets as the later batsmen are not so experienced. We are all eagerly waiting to see the win in Bangladesh.

In the wider cricketing world, there is hardly any relevance for this series. New Zealand is once again performing poorly in sub-continental conditions, and Bangladesh doesn't gain anything by winning matches under helpful conditions. Matches like this one are the reason why test cricket is dying. And it's not like star players are not participating. In this match they had players such as Kane Williamson and Tim Southee taking part. But in the end, the outcome is as per expected lines and the only time when this match looked exciting for me was when Williamson scored the century.

Yes, this is a big reason why test cricket is so much manipulated. In every country, every pitch is manipulated before the test match starts. And in the end, we see this kind of results. There is no way a team like Bangladesh, which does not have a good record in test cricket, and which loses test matches against weaker opponents, should be able to win against New Zealand so convincingly. Well, Bangladesh still has not been able to win the match. But let's be honest, New Zealand only has three wickets in hand. And they have a whole day to survive or score 219 more. The probability of New Zealand winning or getting a draw is very minimal. But let's be honest, New Zealand should have performed better as well.

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Bangladesh might get a taste of Test victory after a long time. Since Bangladesh managed to get out the top four New Zealand batsmen today, if Bangladesh can get out two out of the remaining six batsmen today, then New Zealand will be all out before the first station on the fifth day. However, New Zealand's best batsman Kane Williamson got out for a personal 11 runs today, due to which Bangladesh's chances of victory are very high. However, if there is fog on the wicket in the afternoon, it will be difficult to take wickets. So today, Bangladesh will have to lose two more wickets for the time being.

It will be a huge victory for Bangladesh. I don't remember when Bangladesh got a test victory against a strong side. On stumps day 4, NZ have lost 7 wickets and they need 219 runs to win. Still 90 overs to be bowled tomorrow and its very much obvious that Bangladesh will grab a victory here. Daryl Mitchell, the last recognised batsmen is on the crease. Hopefully we will have a result in first session of tomorrow's play.

Bangladesh vs New Zealand Test Series New Zealand need 219 runs to win. And Bangladesh need three wickets to win. If Bangladesh win the Test series against New Zealand it will be truly history making. Because hosts Bangladesh have not won a Test series against New Zealand so far. Bangladesh is very close to victory but New Zealand player Daryl Mitchell can be the obstacle to this victory. Daryl Mitchell is batting great. Bangladesh should bowl well and make Daryl Mitchell very fast. Because Daryl Mitchell can be dangerous for Bangladesh if he survives. Daryl Mitchell is unbeaten with 44 runs.

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Quote from: LDL on December 01, 2023, 04:10:50 AM

Bangladesh might get a taste of Test victory after a long time. Since Bangladesh managed to get out the top four New Zealand batsmen today, if Bangladesh can get out two out of the remaining six batsmen today, then New Zealand will be all out before the first station on the fifth day. However, New Zealand's best batsman Kane Williamson got out for a personal 11 runs today, due to which Bangladesh's chances of victory are very high. However, if there is fog on the wicket in the afternoon, it will be difficult to take wickets. So today, Bangladesh will have to lose two more wickets for the time being.

It will be a huge victory for Bangladesh. I don't remember when Bangladesh got a test victory against a strong side. On stumps day 4, NZ have lost 7 wickets and they need 219 runs to win. Still 90 overs to be bowled tomorrow and its very much obvious that Bangladesh will grab a victory here. Daryl Mitchell, the last recognised batsmen is on the crease. Hopefully we will have a result in first session of tomorrow's play.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 01, 2023, 08:16:03 AM

Disappointing performance from New Zealand. When they got the lead in first innings, I thought that they had a good chance of winning the match. But in the second innings their bowlers conceded too many runs and allowed Bangladesh to build up a massive lead. Ajaz Patel and Ish Sodhi are completely useless against the Bangladeshi batsmen. This match is almost decided by now. But for the next match, the New Zealand selectors need to think about resting either Ajaz or Ish, or both of them. They failed miserably in this match.

New Zealand wasn't in the position to take a lead in the first innings as their 8th wicket was down on 264 runs. But I was expecting that New Zealand will be in good position as they were able to take a small lead in the first innings from that position. Bangladesh has done well in the third and fourth wicket partnership in the second innings. Now they are completely dominating in the match with their bowling. They are going to win the match for sure, and Taijul Islam could be man of the match in it.

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Bangladesh team has done very good bowling line performance today. New Zealand team came out to bat today and scored 113 runs in 49 overs. New Zealand team lost 7 wickets today. New Zealand team batsmen did not bat well in today's match. New Zealand team is now 219 runs. Taijul Islam of Bangladesh team has done a great performance in bowling. He took 4 wickets with 40 runs in 20 overs.

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Quote from: Jateng on December 01, 2023, 09:20:02 AM

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The game is almost over for New Zealand, as they need 219 runs, and only 3 wickets are left. Taijul bowled beautifully, and his fellow bowlers also did a pretty decent job with the ball. New Zealand should have fought till the end, but apart from Mitchell, no other batter looked comfortable against spinners.
A target of over 300 in sub-continent conditions in the 4th innings is almost impossible to chase. I think Bangladesh hasn't learned anything from their defeat in the World Cup. They should improve their pitches now to compete at the ICC tournaments.

In Second inning Bangladesh posted 338 for all out on day 4 and set a target of 332 to New Zealand. mehidy hasan fifty runs help Ban team to gave a big total to NZ. New Zealand batting was not good on 2nd innings made 113/7 runs Daryel mitchell and sodhi start session 1 of last day with his batting Mitchell 44 not out are on the crease. Ban bowlers bowling very well in second inning. What a excellent spell by Taijul Islam takes 4 wickets New Zealand need 219 runs in 90 overs to win this test.
Last day its impossible to Nz batsman to chase this total because only 3 wickets remaining and pitch totally became bowling its help Bangladesh bowlers to take wickets early on day 5.

Coming to the second innings, the Bangladesh team performed very well in terms of bowling, beating the New Zealand team for 113 runs and 7 wickets on the first day. Falling wickets in 0-run Test matches is particularly dangerous, as has been the case with the New Zealand team. Taijul Islam bowled 20 overs and fell four wickets which was a boon for the Bangladesh team. In this way, if the Bangladesh team can perform the bowling performance, it will definitely win with a wide margin in the last moment. The fall of wickets of the New Zealand team is an interesting fact because when so many wickets fall in a Test match on the first day, the team is under a lot of pressure.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on December 01, 2023, 09:44:18 AM

Bangladesh will definitely win this Test as Bangladesh's spin bowling has been so successful that 7 wickets have fallen for 113 runs. However, in the fifth day's play, Bangladesh will win only if they must fall the remaining three wickets in the first session. But it will be easy for Bangladesh to collect the rest of the wickets as the later batsmen are not so experienced. We are all eagerly waiting to see the win in Bangladesh.

In the wider cricketing world, there is hardly any relevance for this series. New Zealand is once again performing poorly in sub-continental conditions, and Bangladesh doesn't gain anything by winning matches under helpful conditions. Matches like this one are the reason why test cricket is dying. And it's not like star players are not participating. In this match they had players such as Kane Williamson and Tim Southee taking part. But in the end, the outcome is as per expected lines and the only time when this match looked exciting for me was when Williamson scored the century.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on December 01, 2023, 09:30:05 AM

But, Bangladesh is in a good position at this moment. New Zealand lose seven wickets scoring 113 runs and I don't see much hope from here. Did you know that New Zealand won 4 games only chasing 300+ runs in test match?

Bangladesh will definitely win this Test as Bangladesh's spin bowling has been so successful that 7 wickets have fallen for 113 runs. However, in the fifth day's play, Bangladesh will win only if they must fall the remaining three wickets in the first session. But it will be easy for Bangladesh to collect the rest of the wickets as the later batsmen are not so experienced. We are all eagerly waiting to see the win in Bangladesh.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 30, 2023, 10:32:14 AM

Lol not at all, i wasn't trolling or implying any kind of sarcasm in my statement. Having said that I won't discount the brain fade moment in cricket as it's a funny game.

I believe that SENA spinners are not equipped to perform when it's a competitive spin track. Even Warnie underperformed in the subcontinent throughout his career (especially against India) because of this very reason.

See what you were talking about and what happened. Bangladesh was in a very good position and at some point, it looked like they would score around 400 runs as they lost only three wickets after the 3rd day. They have collected only 126 runs in the 4th day losing the rest seven wickets. So, it's kind of batting collapse if you consider it.

But, Bangladesh is in a good position at this moment. New Zealand lose seven wickets scoring 113 runs and I don't see much hope from here. Did you know that New Zealand won 4 games only chasing 300+ runs in test match?

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Quote from: Bd officer on December 01, 2023, 06:30:41 AM

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BAN Vs NZ

Finally 6 wickets gone for New Zealand.
Bangladesh's successive spinner attack resulted in the fall of New Zealand's six wickets. There are many more overs left in today's third session and if the spinners become more aggressive, New Zealand will be all out today. It is very likely that New Zealand will not be able to play on the fifth day. Usually on the fourth and fifth day in Tests, batting becomes difficult and the spinners have an added advantage. Bangladesh is using this opportunity and they are succeeding. However, if Bangladesh can beat New Zealand today, another coveted Test win will be recorded. Picking up the next four wickets for Bangladesh became crucial for the desired win.

At the end of the 4th day's play, New Zealand collected 113 runs for the loss of 7 wickets. The way New Zealand's wickets fell, it seemed that New Zealand might be all out today. But New Zealand will bat on the 5th day tomorrow, Bangladesh's bowling must be praised. Taijul Islam's bowling has been really outstanding, he has taken 8 wickets in 2 innings so far. New Zealand still need 219 runs to win with 3 wickets in hand, New Zealand has no chance to win. New Zealand will have to survive the whole day tomorrow to draw the match, but it is not possible for New Zealand to survive the whole day tomorrow. However, New Zealand will try to survive the day tomorrow. However, Bangladesh are going to surprise everyone and win against a strong team like New Zealand.

The New Zealand team can chase the target but the problem is that Bangladeshi bowlers take the wickets again and again otherwise if New Zealand plays safely so they can easily chase the score even if they make just two runs in an over so they can easily chase the runs. Just today's day is finished and the New Zealand team finished this day with a good play. In this match, Kane Williamson played very well in the first inning, till now Kane Williamson made the highest score in this inning, he made 100 runs in 200 balls but unluckily after the century in first innings, he lost his wicket cheaply in the 2nd innings, but at the end, we see the century of Kane Williamson.

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Quote from: jasonjm on December 01, 2023, 08:22:28 AM

The game is almost over for New Zealand, as they need 219 runs, and only 3 wickets are left. Taijul bowled beautifully, and his fellow bowlers also did a pretty decent job with the ball. New Zealand should have fought till the end, but apart from Mitchell, no other batter looked comfortable against spinners.
A target of over 300 in sub-continent conditions in the 4th innings is almost impossible to chase. I think Bangladesh hasn't learned anything from their defeat in the World Cup. They should improve their pitches now to compete at the ICC tournaments.

In Second inning Bangladesh posted 338 for all out on day 4 and set a target of 332 to New Zealand. mehidy hasan fifty runs help Ban team to gave a big total to NZ. New Zealand batting was not good on 2nd innings made 113/7 runs Daryel mitchell and sodhi start session 1 of last day with his batting Mitchell 44 not out are on the crease. Ban bowlers bowling very well in second inning. What a excellent spell by Taijul Islam takes 4 wickets New Zealand need 219 runs in 90 overs to win this test.
Last day its impossible to Nz batsman to chase this total because only 3 wickets remaining and pitch totally became bowling its help Bangladesh bowlers to take wickets early on day 5.

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Quote from: jasonjm on December 01, 2023, 08:22:28 AM

The game is almost over for New Zealand, as they need 219 runs, and only 3 wickets are left. Taijul bowled beautifully, and his fellow bowlers also did a pretty decent job with the ball. New Zealand should have fought till the end, but apart from Mitchell, no other batter looked comfortable against spinners.
A target of over 300 in sub-continent conditions in the 4th innings is almost impossible to chase. I think Bangladesh hasn't learned anything from their defeat in the World Cup. They should improve their pitches now to compete at the ICC tournaments.

Bangladesh should be able to wrap up the match in the first hour itself during tomorrow's play. New Zealand played well during the first two days. But from the third day onward they lost control. And this time they don't have any excuses for their poor performance, as they had fielded a full-strength side including heavy-weights such as Kane Williamson, Devon Conway, Tim Southee, Kyle Jamieson and Daryl Mitchell. Only major player who is missing is Trent Boult, but he announced his retirement from test cricket long time back.

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The game is almost over for New Zealand, as they need 219 runs, and only 3 wickets are left. Taijul bowled beautifully, and his fellow bowlers also did a pretty decent job with the ball. New Zealand should have fought till the end, but apart from Mitchell, no other batter looked comfortable against spinners.
A target of over 300 in sub-continent conditions in the 4th innings is almost impossible to chase. I think Bangladesh hasn't learned anything from their defeat in the World Cup. They should improve their pitches now to compete at the ICC tournaments.

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Bangladesh set a target of 332 runs to New Zealand. New Zealand went into bat with a target of 332 runs and lost one wicket first and were under a lot of pressure. Then the batsmen could not score very good runs. So far the game is within the reach of Bangladesh. New Zealand's current score is 100 runs for 6 wickets. It seems that Bangladesh can win the first Test. Bangladesh team is batting well. Bangladesh bowlers are bowling brilliantly. Best wishes for Bangladesh team.

Today is the fourth day of the test match between New Zealand and Bangladesh ended.
In the current situation, the New Zealand team needs 221 runs to win the match, and I am pretty sure that this test match finish with a result because some matches of the test matches are drawn.
Bangladesh only needs three more wickets and they will make history tomorrow.

Bangladesh had a great bowling performance against New Zealand today due to which the New Zealand team batted in desperation. They were under a lot of pressure from the start today due to New Zealand's disappointing batting and lost their wicket and gathered imagination in their second innings. The New Zealand team still has a long way to go to make up the lead given by Bangladesh which looks unlikely as they have lost 7 wickets. New Zealand team must score more runs to win against Bangladesh which is not possible. New Zealand team has collected 113 runs today they still need 219 runs to complete the lead which is not possible as they don't have important wickets in hand, so the result may be Bangladesh win tomorrow.

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Disappointing performance from New Zealand. When they got the lead in first innings, I thought that they had a good chance of winning the match. But in the second innings their bowlers conceded too many runs and allowed Bangladesh to build up a massive lead. Ajaz Patel and Ish Sodhi are completely useless against the Bangladeshi batsmen. This match is almost decided by now. But for the next match, the New Zealand selectors need to think about resting either Ajaz or Ish, or both of them. They failed miserably in this match.

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