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After the historic loss against England in the last Test, Pakistan could make some big changes which will increase the expectation of a more aggressive game in the second Test. The omission of two main pacers from the list of players they released ahead of the second Test means they have been left out. Pakistan team will play the second test with only one pacer and Amer Jamal, the only pacer of the previous match, has been included in the team. Pakistan's bowlers were blamed for losing three consecutive Test matches and the pacers failed miserably. In the upcoming matches, Pakistan team has insisted on increasing the number of spinners and three spinners have been kept there. Multan's wicket is likely to be the same as the one in the previous match, which is why the Pakistan team is trying to prioritize spinners over pacers. On the other hand England team will try to show more strength and try to give their best performance in the second test as well. Hope we can see a good test match.

One of the main reasons behind Pakistan's defeat in the first Test match was the terrible bowling of the bowlers. None of the bowlers in the squad performed well. As a result, England was able to collect big. Moreover, although the Pakistani batsmen batted well in the first innings, their performance in the second innings was very poor. As a result Pakistan team was defeated.

In the second match, Pakistan won the toss and decided to bat. Pakistan team lost two wickets to collect only 19 runs. Shafique and Masood are not batting well. But at the moment, Pakistan's collection is 158 runs with the loss of 2 wickets. Saim Ayub remained unbeaten with 68 runs and Kamran Ghulam 75 runs.
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Willow cricket link previously shared buffers a lot, so if anyone wants to watch Pakistan vs England, they can watch it here [1], mind you there are plenty ads but stream works smooth.

You will find links to other cricket matches as well.

In case, if some of you are wondering why Spinners are bowling the most overs in the first session.

This is not just the same Multan stadium but the same pitch as the first match. I am not making this up, they are using the same deck for 2 test matches so technically it's 6th day of the test match with 4 days of break in between.

Is that why they dropped Naseem and Afridi?



[1] https://cricket.buffsportshub.stream/
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In case, if some of you are wondering why Spinners are bowling the most overs in the first session.

This is not just the same Multan stadium but the same pitch as the first match. I am not making this up, they are using the same deck for 2 test matches so technically it's 6th day of the test match with 4 days of break in between.
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Pakistan vs England second test match will be held today, if Pakistan team can not perform well in today's match then definitely there is a possibility to lose the series. The first match did not play very well Pakistan team their bowling performance was not that strong so now they need to improve their bowling performance. If Pakistan can't play well against England in today's match, then there is no hope of winning, I think Pakistan team must show improvement in this second match today than the first match. However, England still have a lot of chances as they are the favorites to win the second match, but a tough presentation from Pakistan here will surely tie the game if they improve their game.
Test match which is starting between Pakistan and England is very important. Pakistan did not play well in first match especially when bowling. To avoid losing Pakistan needs to bowl better and play smarter. England is likely to win but Pakistan can still save the series with good performance. If Pakistan tries hard they might even win unexpectedly. Pakistan team must learn from their mistakes and improve fast. They need to bowl well and bat cleverly. England is strong but Pakistan can surprise them with teamwork and determination. So let's see what will Pakistan do? I hope they will win but chances are very low.
After the historic loss against England in the last Test, Pakistan could make some big changes which will increase the expectation of a more aggressive game in the second Test. The omission of two main pacers from the list of players they released ahead of the second Test means they have been left out. Pakistan team will play the second test with only one pacer and Amer Jamal, the only pacer of the previous match, has been included in the team. Pakistan's bowlers were blamed for losing three consecutive Test matches and the pacers failed miserably. In the upcoming matches, Pakistan team has insisted on increasing the number of spinners and three spinners have been kept there. Multan's wicket is likely to be the same as the one in the previous match, which is why the Pakistan team is trying to prioritize spinners over pacers. On the other hand England team will try to show more strength and try to give their best performance in the second test as well. Hope we can see a good test match.
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Pakistan vs England second test match will be held today, if Pakistan team can not perform well in today's match then definitely there is a possibility to lose the series. The first match did not play very well Pakistan team their bowling performance was not that strong so now they need to improve their bowling performance. If Pakistan can't play well against England in today's match, then there is no hope of winning, I think Pakistan team must show improvement in this second match today than the first match. However, England still have a lot of chances as they are the favorites to win the second match, but a tough presentation from Pakistan here will surely tie the game if they improve their game.
Test match which is starting between Pakistan and England is very important. Pakistan did not play well in first match especially when bowling. To avoid losing Pakistan needs to bowl better and play smarter. England is likely to win but Pakistan can still save the series with good performance. If Pakistan tries hard they might even win unexpectedly. Pakistan team must learn from their mistakes and improve fast. They need to bowl well and bat cleverly. England is strong but Pakistan can surprise them with teamwork and determination. So let's see what will Pakistan do? I hope they will win but chances are very low.
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Yep absolutely Pakistan hasn't done anything Unappropriate so that they will get warning or something related to that, it's true that PCB has create some road type pitch which leak huge runs from bowling sise but it hasn't mean they goes beyond icc rules so that statement has nothing related to reality but just a imagination. Anyway Pakistan has make a terrible changes which I really condemn to drop baber Azam instead of support him and work on other player so that they can absorb huge pressure from him and allow him to awake the beast inside hum so that he can once again lead Pakistani entire team from front single handedly just like he does in most of his recent matches. But soon I believe after end of second match they will regret about his that worts decision to drop back bone of his batting lineup

Pakistan will again play against England on the same pitch today but will drop some of their legendary players from the team. How this decision will impact the game is yet to be seen.

However, England will be confident going into today's game as they won the last match and also they know this is the same ground where they played the last test. I really wonder if the hosts (Pakistan) can think differently, come up with a positive mindset and make a fast pitch or even a spinning track would work. When you go in the test match, with a dead pitch, it clearly shows that the hosts are already afraid of the opponents strengths.
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Pakistan vs England second test match will be held today, if Pakistan team can not perform well in today's match then definitely there is a possibility to lose the series. The first match did not play very well Pakistan team their bowling performance was not that strong so now they need to improve their bowling performance. If Pakistan can't play well against England in today's match, then there is no hope of winning, I think Pakistan team must show improvement in this second match today than the first match. However, England still have a lot of chances as they are the favorites to win the second match, but a tough presentation from Pakistan here will surely tie the game if they improve their game.
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Why ICC will give a warning to PCB when every test is producing result? Pakistan cricket has gone beyond all lows ever since the Pak Army puppet Mohsin Naqvi has taken over control of PCB. Mohsin Naqvi is cousin of Pak Army Chief wife and that's the reason he is interior minister as well as looking after PCB. Now Pakistan has lost 6 test matches in a row which is a new record and irony is we don't know what worse is waiting ahead.
Yep absolutely Pakistan hasn't done anything Unappropriate so that they will get warning or something related to that, it's true that PCB has create some road type pitch which leak huge runs from bowling sise but it hasn't mean they goes beyond icc rules so that statement has nothing related to reality but just a imagination. Anyway Pakistan has make a terrible changes which I really condemn to drop baber Azam instead of support him and work on other player so that they can absorb huge pressure from him and allow him to awake the beast inside hum so that he can once again lead Pakistani entire team from front single handedly just like he does in most of his recent matches. But soon I believe after end of second match they will regret about his that worts decision to drop back bone of his batting lineup
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Yes ,you are right. Pakistani International cricket team is not good for International level. I expected the same performance from Pakistani team because I know the level of Pakistani team and Pakistani team has many weaknesses and they re not working on that and in the future we will see the same result because Pakistani team has mindset of losers and every player is playing for himself and nobody is playing for his team and thats why Pakistani team is facing difficulties and they lose last series and they are going onward to the lose this series.Pakistani team deserve this and England team is best team of the World and they proved that by their performance and no player of that team is playing for himself.

As per the news i saw at cricinfo, Shaheen Shah Afridi has been dropped for the next game too as we know that some days before there was a news from PCB that Babar Azam is not likely to play the second match which was real and after looking at the squad Shaheen Shah Afridi has been out of the team too. This makes the team even more weaker, isn't ?

By the way, to be honest I think it will hurt the Pakistan team or it will give them very much advantage to them but they don't have any better replacements for these players. Either Pakistan will lose the next game very badly or win it with a good margin. The losing reason could be that two main players are not in the team and the winning reason could be that if the new players chance instead of Baber and Shaheen will make the difference. Let's see tomorrow in Multan.

Pakistan drop Shaheen, Naseem alongside Babar for next two Tests

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Yes ,you are right. Pakistani International cricket team is not good for International level. I expected the same performance from Pakistani team because I know the level of Pakistani team and Pakistani team has many weaknesses and they re not working on that and in the future we will see the same result because Pakistani team has mindset of losers and every player is playing for himself and nobody is playing for his team and thats why Pakistani team is facing difficulties and they lose last series and they are going onward to the lose this series.Pakistani team deserve this and England team is best team of the World and they proved that by their performance and no player of that team is playing for himself.

I agree with you Pakistani cricket team is not doing well internationally and it is not surprise. They have big problems like thinking they will lose and not working together and players only caring about themselves. Until they fix these problems and make plan they will keep losing. England team is on the other hand they are successful because they work together have good plan and put team first. To become competitive again Pakistan needs to change its team culture and mindset. By the way I believe that Pakistan needs to make big changes to be able to compete with top teams like England.
Almost everyone in the cricket world now wants to reform Pakistan cricket. The players of the team should be tested very well and the good players should be kept in the team otherwise they will never get the desire level. Also I assume that nepotism is more among players in Pakistan. Especially if the captain doesn't like someone then he doesn't get a place in the team no matter how good a cricketer he is. They have to get rid of this bad culture in their cricket. We should play cricket not for our own needs but for the needs of the country. I believe if Pakistan cricketers and board members select the players properly then they will be able to make good cricket team. It is possible to change their cricket in quick time. Since there is no change in their condition for a long time, now they have to take a decision.
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England team won by 47 runs in Pakistan vs England 1st Test match.Pakistan team scored 556 runs losing 10 wickets in 149 overs.England team scored 823 runs losing 7 wickets in 150 overs.Bassmen of both teams gave very good performance.But Pakistan team performed well.  The latter could not win the match because Pakistan team's bowling line was weak for which England team won this match. England team's bowling line was very strong.
Yes, You're right England outstanding performance helped to win test match by an inning and 47 runs against Pakistan. I think Pakistan is first team in test history that lost a game in which they scored more then 500 plus runs in first inning of the match. The Player of the Match is Harry Brook for playing an out classed batting inning scored trippel hundred 317 runs by just 322 balls and helped England team to scored 800 plus total in first inning of the test match. England now lead the series by 1-0. Pakistan team needs to improve his defence power if they want to win next match of series and level it but England have more chances of winning the series.

I would say that all things considered, England performed the best in the first Test match against Pakistan. Although Pakistan team performed well in their first innings on the first day, Pakistan team did not perform well in the second innings. Anyway, as England team has won against Pakistan in a good tie, and England team is leading in the series result. However, we expect that in the next match Pakistan team will have to be tougher and improve their game to equalize their series result against England. And if Pakistan ball doesn't play well in the second test match then surely they will lose the series, however we have seen earlier Pakistan lost the series against Bangladesh so they should improve their game against England.

The Pakistan team selectors has made a lot of changes in the second and third Test match of series against England. Babar Azam, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Naseem Shah and Abrar Ahmed has been out of the series. Kamran Ghulam new Young talented player added in squad they perform well in Pakistan international one day and now they will replace Babar Azan in batting line of second test match. Three other changes are also made including Haseebullah is a wicket-keeper batsmen and a new spinner, Mehran Mumtaz, who is a good bowler and fast bowlers Muhammad Ali has been included in the team. Now let's see how Pakistan perform after added new players in squads for next matches of series.
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There are two more tests coming up for the England tour of Pakistan. Next match is scheduled at the same venue (Multan Cricket Stadium), while the third match will be played at the Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium. Anyway, I am not expecting any change in the nature of pitches. Pakistani curators will make dead tracks, which will enable the batsmen from both sides to improve their career stats. The ICC maybe closely watching these matches. Won't be very surprised if Pakistan gets a formal warning.
We've come to the point where winning in Pakistan has no value and runs scored there are becoming pretty useless, given you are comparing em with other venues. It's all lol and giggles with a heavy load of depression.


It's quite surprising to see the reserves. I am in favor of all seam reserve but at the same time, it seems early, considering they could've some game time in the Ranji and more overs under their belt, it started already.

Harshit-Reddy did more than okay job in the Duleep Trophy. I had a feeling Reddy would be fast-tracked because he's a seam all rounder and management desperately needs one for SENA tours, mainly upcoming BGT. Maybe they are just keeping em with the squad so that they can monitor their progress in the nets.

Fingers crossed for Mayank Yadav, he's an exciting talent and hope his body allows him to bowl 15-20 overs in the net regularly.



Team India has just finished the Test and T20 series against Bangladesh with 100% success so their next target is to perform well against New Zealand. We can see that New Zealand is not performing well recently, especially in the Test series against Sri Lanka, New Zealand's performance was very poor. New Zealand failed to win the series against Sri Lanka so their Test series against India will be more difficult. If India can play at their best and New Zealand perform the way they are currently doing against India, New Zealand will likely lose both the Test matches by a big margin. New Zealand must win some matches to stay in the Test Championship fight, so the matches against India can be said to be a golden opportunity for them.
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Yes ,you are right. Pakistani International cricket team is not good for International level. I expected the same performance from Pakistani team because I know the level of Pakistani team and Pakistani team has many weaknesses and they re not working on that and in the future we will see the same result because Pakistani team has mindset of losers and every player is playing for himself and nobody is playing for his team and thats why Pakistani team is facing difficulties and they lose last series and they are going onward to the lose this series.Pakistani team deserve this and England team is best team of the World and they proved that by their performance and no player of that team is playing for himself.

I agree with you Pakistani cricket team is not doing well internationally and it is not surprise. They have big problems like thinking they will lose and not working together and players only caring about themselves. Until they fix these problems and make plan they will keep losing. England team is on the other hand they are successful because they work together have good plan and put team first. To become competitive again Pakistan needs to change its team culture and mindset. By the way I believe that Pakistan needs to make big changes to be able to compete with top teams like England.
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There are two more tests coming up for the England tour of Pakistan. Next match is scheduled at the same venue (Multan Cricket Stadium), while the third match will be played at the Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium. Anyway, I am not expecting any change in the nature of pitches. Pakistani curators will make dead tracks, which will enable the batsmen from both sides to improve their career stats. The ICC maybe closely watching these matches. Won't be very surprised if Pakistan gets a formal warning.

Why ICC will give a warning to PCB when every test is producing result? Pakistan cricket has gone beyond all lows ever since the Pak Army puppet Mohsin Naqvi has taken over control of PCB. Mohsin Naqvi is cousin of Pak Army Chief wife and that's the reason he is interior minister as well as looking after PCB. Now Pakistan has lost 6 test matches in a row which is a new record and irony is we don't know what worse is waiting ahead.
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It is not about that Pakistan played well in the first innings but collapsed in the 2nd, it is the unpredictable nature of this team where you never know what's coming. They can win the most difficult situation matches or lose the easiest of the games; one such example is this test match. No other team would have collapsed like the way the Pakistan team did in the last 2 days of the game.

Also, we are only blaming the Pakistan batting, why not also give credit to the super bowling performance by the England team. Jack Leach took four of those important wickets while Gus Atkinson and Brydon Carse took two wickets each and made the Pakistan batting look like a club's team.



Babar Azam is not likely to play the next Test match at Multan against England. This match will start on 15th October and Babar Azam not going to play this game because he had a very bad performance in the last games following test matches otherwise in the One-day games and in the T20 games, he is good as we can see his performance in the league matches too. Also, Saim Ayub may not play this game because I have seen somewhere that Saim Ayub did the fixing in the last game but it is rumours because no action was taken by the Pakistan Cricket Board and by ICC, no big sites of Cricket such as Cricbuzz and Cricinfo has not said about it, although it is only the rumors in Social media.
Brothers, that are only rumors . ICC know the action of every player and if Saim Ayub did match fixing then ICC would take action against him.  Pakistani cricket board will take action if saim Ayub did fixing. If Pakistani cricket board did not take  against Saim Ayub and get did actually match fixing then ICC will ban him for 4 to 5 years which will be not good for Pakistani cricket. Youngesters entrap by fraudy persons of foreign teams because they want to destroy Pakistani team and they hit young talent and Young Man became greedy . But on the other hand match fixing can be happen by Pakistani players because they want to be millionaire in a day .
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Current times are not favorable for Pakistan team as they are failing in series after series. Pakistan are perhaps the only team to lose their first Test match against England despite scoring more than 500 runs in the first innings. Pakistan's batting in the first innings may not seem like they are performing badly, but their batting in the second innings will make everyone question. Pakistan's poor performances have been noticed in the last few series, batting well once but bowling poorly, i.e. they are not consistent on a regular basis. Despite having many best batsmen and best bowlers, their performance has deteriorated so much. They need special attention from their management to solve this problem because if they perform like this Pakistan team might be considered as a much weaker team in the cricket world.
I completely agree with you Pakistan cricket team is struggling badly losing many series in a row. Their surprising loss to England in first Test match is especially worrying even though they scored over 500 runs. Pakistan batting is inconsistent sometimes good sometimes bad. This inconsistency is not new it has been happening for a while. Despite having talented players Pakistan performance has dropped significantly. Team leaders need to step in and fix these problems quickly. If Pakistan keeps playing poorly their reputation will be severely damaged.
With recent development in Pakistani cricket is clearly indicating things are already gone worst because of poor management and players personal issues most chances if we will not have changed at the top level then things will be not gone on positive side which will bring them down like we have West Indies and Sri Lanka with now Sri Lanka is on positive road, but Pakistani cricket is almost down and out of game for long time in all formats.

Their test quality is just like crap even they are having top quality batsmen and bowlers, but things are not under well control due to poor management usually Pakistani team and PCB is had too many issues which give good entertainment to cricket world, but now things are already badly down which are surely going to have huge negative point in long run they need to think about this if they want to have better and positive changes otherwise we are on verge of losing another exciting team from cricket.
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Fingers crossed for Mayank Yadav, he's an exciting talent and hope his body allows him to bowl 15-20 overs in the net regularly.

Mayank reminds me of Jasprit Bumrah in his early days. If the BCCI can manage his workload, then he can be an exciting future prospect for India. But only time will tell whether Mayank will end up like Jasprit or like Kamlesh Nagarkoti. BTW, there is too much competition at the top level. Mayank will be competing against Virat's favorites, such as Siraj, Avesh and Arshdeep. He needs to have control as well, else he may even end up like Umran Malik. Umran had lot of support from the BCCI and Virat, but in the end he was too expensive with the ball to get a permanent spot in the playing XI.
Fingers crossed and if he manages to settle, then I hope they use Mayank strategically and receive the same treatment as Bumrah. Wrap him in cotton wool and use only ICC Trophies and Test matches in SENA + maybe 1-2 tests in India, if necessary. Apart from that, there is no need to play any bilateral cricket against any team.

In T-20 cricket Arshdeep is not going anywhere as he's our best performing seamer in the T-20 format along with Bumrah. Avesh's stocks are going down so he's down in the pecking order in test cricket and not in competition in the White ball cricket.

Siraj is a workhorse and up in the pecking order as far as Test cricket is concerned but if the likes of Mayank and Reddy do well then Siraj will feel the pressure, especially in SENA conditions. In whiteball duo of Mayank-Reddy will replace him soon (T-20).



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Current PCB management doing good work for having meme of Pakistani team around the world after losing first game now we will be having 3–0 for England with this squad and strategy which is adopted by these crap selectors and all peoples involved in this management.

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Fingers crossed for Mayank Yadav, he's an exciting talent and hope his body allows him to bowl 15-20 overs in the net regularly.

Mayank reminds me of Jasprit Bumrah in his early days. If the BCCI can manage his workload, then he can be an exciting future prospect for India. But only time will tell whether Mayank will end up like Jasprit or like Kamlesh Nagarkoti. BTW, there is too much competition at the top level. Mayank will be competing against Virat's favorites, such as Siraj, Avesh and Arshdeep. He needs to have control as well, else he may even end up like Umran Malik. Umran had lot of support from the BCCI and Virat, but in the end he was too expensive with the ball to get a permanent spot in the playing XI.
Fingers crossed and if he manages to settle, then I hope they use Mayank strategically and receive the same treatment as Bumrah. Wrap him in cotton wool and use only ICC Trophies and Test matches in SENA + maybe 1-2 tests in India, if necessary. Apart from that, there is no need to play any bilateral cricket against any team.

In T-20 cricket Arshdeep is not going anywhere as he's our best performing seamer in the T-20 format along with Bumrah. Avesh's stocks are going down so he's down in the pecking order in test cricket and not in competition in the White ball cricket.

Siraj is a workhorse and up in the pecking order as far as Test cricket is concerned but if the likes of Mayank and Reddy do well then Siraj will feel the pressure, especially in SENA conditions. In whiteball duo of Mayank-Reddy will replace him soon (T-20).



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Current times are not favorable for Pakistan team as they are failing in series after series. Pakistan are perhaps the only team to lose their first Test match against England despite scoring more than 500 runs in the first innings. Pakistan's batting in the first innings may not seem like they are performing badly, but their batting in the second innings will make everyone question. Pakistan's poor performances have been noticed in the last few series, batting well once but bowling poorly, i.e. they are not consistent on a regular basis. Despite having many best batsmen and best bowlers, their performance has deteriorated so much. They need special attention from their management to solve this problem because if they perform like this Pakistan team might be considered as a much weaker team in the cricket world.
I completely agree with you Pakistan cricket team is struggling badly losing many series in a row. Their surprising loss to England in first Test match is especially worrying even though they scored over 500 runs. Pakistan batting is inconsistent sometimes good sometimes bad. This inconsistency is not new it has been happening for a while. Despite having talented players Pakistan performance has dropped significantly. Team leaders need to step in and fix these problems quickly. If Pakistan keeps playing poorly their reputation will be severely damaged.
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It is not about that Pakistan played well in the first innings but collapsed in the 2nd, it is the unpredictable nature of this team where you never know what's coming. They can win the most difficult situation matches or lose the easiest of the games; one such example is this test match. No other team would have collapsed like the way the Pakistan team did in the last 2 days of the game.

Also, we are only blaming the Pakistan batting, why not also give credit to the super bowling performance by the England team. Jack Leach took four of those important wickets while Gus Atkinson and Brydon Carse took two wickets each and made the Pakistan batting look like a club's team.



Babar Azam is not likely to play the next Test match at Multan against England. This match will start on 15th October and Babar Azam not going to play this game because he had a very bad performance in the last games following test matches otherwise in the One-day games and in the T20 games, he is good as we can see his performance in the league matches too. Also, Saim Ayub may not play this game because I have seen somewhere that Saim Ayub did the fixing in the last game but it is rumours because no action was taken by the Pakistan Cricket Board and by ICC, no big sites of Cricket such as Cricbuzz and Cricinfo has not said about it, although it is only the rumors in Social media.
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