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India might have won this match if not for such a terrible batting in the first innings. India managed to collect only 46 runs in the first innings. If India could have collected around 200 in the first innings, the match would have been very competitive.

However, in the second innings, India's top order batsmen batted very responsibly. Especially because of the innings of Sharfaraz and Rishab Pant managed to collect big. But I expected to see better batting from KL Rahul and Jadeja. India could have scored 500+ only if these two batsmen had batted well. If the target was 200+ it would have been difficult for New Zealand to win.

Yes you are right India lost due to poor batting in first innings. Scoring only 46 runs hurt their chances. The second innings were better especially Sharfaraz and Rishabh Pant played really well and due to them India went above 400 runs. But KL Rahul and Jadeja did not do well. India could have scored over 500 if these two batsmen performed better but almost they need 600 to 700+ runs if they want to compete with New Zealand. This would have made it harder for New Zealand to win. India needs consistent batting to succeed.

Indian International test cricket team lose the match and they played very bad in first inning and that was the reason of their lose. If Indian cricket team could make 200 plus runs in first inning,they could win this match but I will give credit to New Zealand bowlers who took early wickets and applied pressure on Indian team. Indian team lose wickets back to back and New Zealand team played very well and made 402 runs in first inning and they became favorite for this match and after that 90 percent situation was in the favor of New Zealand and they won this match easily by 8 wickets rather Indian team played very well in second inning and they could give only 107 runs target for this match.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 19, 2024, 09:15:17 AM

It will be amazing if New Zealand manages to win this match, just because of the performance from their pacers. The pitch hardly offered any support for them (although the overcast conditions worked in their favor), but still Matt Henry and William O’Rourke managed to terrorize the Indian batsmen. And also, let's not forget Tim Southee who nabbed Rohit Sharma in the first innings and Sarfaraz Khan in the second. Ajaz Patel was completely useless, and the part-timers (Glenn Phillips and Rachin Ravindra) also didn't managed to pickup wickets at crucial stages.

It's true that new Zealand bowling lineup were the one responsible for that victory because I believe if they didn't mange to get them on such low target and they able to scored 400 around just like they does in second innings then it will be tough challenge for new Zealand to match and may be they failed as Indian super start Jaspirith bumrah the main backbone of thier pacers lineup were in true colors so definitely he will does some upset and movement will be divert in thier favor as they already have edge of home ground but unfortunately everything goes beyond our expectations. Anyway I taught jaddu, Ashwin, Rahul will add his 100% contribution in order to put his team on right track to victory as I am sure if they have 300 around lead in second innings to defend thier bowling will be does but these middle order and tail under failed in such crucial moment and thus lose.

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A Test series between Bangladesh and South Africa is going to be held from tomorrow. The series between Bangladesh and South Africa consists of two Test matches, the first of which will be played at the Mirpur Stadium tomorrow. A few days back, Bangladesh performed admirably in the Test series against Pakistan, after which they lost badly to India. Now again they face another strong cricket team who are very strong in Test format. At present, Shakib Al Hasan is the most experienced player of the Bangladesh cricket team.

He will be absent from this series as a result of which the strength of the Bangladesh team will be greatly weakened against South Africa. We thought maybe Shakib Al Hasan will play in the Test match against South Africa but as his arrival in Bangladesh is uncertain, he will not be associated with the Bangladesh team for this series.

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India might have won this match if not for such a terrible batting in the first innings. India managed to collect only 46 runs in the first innings. If India could have collected around 200 in the first innings, the match would have been very competitive.

However, in the second innings, India's top order batsmen batted very responsibly. Especially because of the innings of Sharfaraz and Rishab Pant managed to collect big. But I expected to see better batting from KL Rahul and Jadeja. India could have scored 500+ only if these two batsmen had batted well. If the target was 200+ it would have been difficult for New Zealand to win.

Yes you are right India lost due to poor batting in first innings. Scoring only 46 runs hurt their chances. The second innings were better especially Sharfaraz and Rishabh Pant played really well and due to them India went above 400 runs. But KL Rahul and Jadeja did not do well. India could have scored over 500 if these two batsmen performed better but almost they need 600 to 700+ runs if they want to compete with New Zealand. This would have made it harder for New Zealand to win. India needs consistent batting to succeed.

I agree with you. The batting disaster of India's batsmen in the first innings was the main reason for the loss of this Test. Besides, Kohli, Sarfaraz Khan and Pant have batted well, among which Sarfaraz Khan's innings of 150 runs from 195 balls has given the Indian team a very good backup. I will specifically mention Kohli who scored very quickly in Tests and scored 70 off 102 balls which was a one-day style of batting for him. Pant on the other hand gave T20 style batting he was able to play a blistering innings of 99 runs off 105 balls but he should have been more patient and tended to score centuries. Overall, the Indian team batted well in the second innings but the New Zealand team was very confident of winning resulting in a huge 8 wicket win.

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Quote from: Minecache on October 20, 2024, 03:19:20 AM

India might have won this match if not for such a terrible batting in the first innings. India managed to collect only 46 runs in the first innings. If India could have collected around 200 in the first innings, the match would have been very competitive.

However, in the second innings, India's top order batsmen batted very responsibly. Especially because of the innings of Sharfaraz and Rishab Pant managed to collect big. But I expected to see better batting from KL Rahul and Jadeja. India could have scored 500+ only if these two batsmen had batted well. If the target was 200+ it would have been difficult for New Zealand to win.

Yes you are right India lost due to poor batting in first innings. Scoring only 46 runs hurt their chances. The second innings were better especially Sharfaraz and Rishabh Pant played really well and due to them India went above 400 runs. But KL Rahul and Jadeja did not do well. India could have scored over 500 if these two batsmen performed better but almost they need 600 to 700+ runs if they want to compete with New Zealand. This would have made it harder for New Zealand to win. India needs consistent batting to succeed.

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India should be happy they brought this test to the last day and hope they can get revenge in the next test match.

Agreed. This match was over for India when Sarfaraz and Pant got out frankly speaking, but dragging it all the way till the final day is a big accomplishment considering how they got all for 46 on Day 1.

Sarfaraz lost it upon reaching 150, he could have played careful for some time more. Pant's dismissal reminded me for Virat's dismissal in CWC23, it felt like ll O'Rourke knew what he was going to do.

New Zealand pacers brought their team back after having new ball, prior it, India was smooth sailing. KL, Jadeja, Ashwin added little to the scoreboard.

India might have won this match if not for such a terrible batting in the first innings. India managed to collect only 46 runs in the first innings. If India could have collected around 200 in the first innings, the match would have been very competitive.

However, in the second innings, India's top order batsmen batted very responsibly. Especially because of the innings of Sharfaraz and Rishab Pant managed to collect big. But I expected to see better batting from KL Rahul and Jadeja. India could have scored 500+ only if these two batsmen had batted well. If the target was 200+ it would have been difficult for New Zealand to win.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 20, 2024, 01:26:41 AM

Agreed. This match was over for India when Sarfaraz and Pant got out frankly speaking, but dragging it all the way till the final day is a big accomplishment considering how they got all for 46 on Day 1.

Anyway, I was able to bet on New Zealand earlier for 1.19 which was epic value and it was pretty much a surebet at that point.

New Zealand have won by 8 wickets. This is third only the 3rd win on the Indian soil. This is important win for them especially when you know they lost to Sri Lanka 2-0 and where down in morale.

You got a good bet at 1.19, i was only able to get 1.06 as told here. Moving forward, i think India would win the next test match and since India lost this test, we may get good odds for betting on India. This would not be the case if India had won this match, then bookies would have offered much lower odds for India. Its like grabbing the opportunity at the right time. Wink

The next test match will start on 24 October at Pune.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 20, 2024, 01:26:41 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on October 20, 2024, 01:18:36 AM

India should be happy they brought this test to the last day and hope they can get revenge in the next test match.

Agreed. This match was over for India when Sarfaraz and Pant got out frankly speaking, but dragging it all the way till the final day is a big accomplishment considering how they got all for 46 on Day 1.

Sarfaraz lost it upon reaching 150, he could have played careful for some time more. Pant's dismissal reminded me for Virat's dismissal in CWC23, it felt like ll O'Rourke knew what he was going to do.

New Zealand pacers brought their team back after having new ball, prior it, India was smooth sailing. KL, Jadeja, Ashwin added little to the scoreboard.

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It was the first test victory for the Kiwis in India after 36 years and they did it in style. Congrats to them, this outfit must be a happy bunch and maybe they can do the impossible in this series and create history.

One could argue that Rohit going with 2 seamers only on a spicy seam wicket is the main trigger point but you have to give credit to the Kiwis. The way they bowled in the first inning was some quality spell of seam bowling and in the second Indian inning, their seamer came back hard with a new ball and made a difference again.

But 1 major key difference for me in this match was Rachin Ravindra. His partnership with the Southee did more damage than 46 all out. This partnership was the reason India had a 350-run deficit instead of 200.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 20, 2024, 01:18:36 AM

India should be happy they brought this test to the last day and hope they can get revenge in the next test match.

Agreed. This match was over for India when Sarfaraz and Pant got out frankly speaking, but dragging it all the way till the final day is a big accomplishment considering how they got all for 46 on Day 1.

Anyway, I was able to bet on New Zealand earlier for 1.19 which was epic value and it was pretty much a surebet at that point.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on October 20, 2024, 12:54:30 AM

Whatever happened has happened. Nothing can be changed now. Not it's time to see if Indian bowlers can do some magic and bundle the Kiwis. To do that, they have to do something extraordinary. For now, the Kiwis need only 72 more runs and they have eight wickets in hand. The outfield was wet this morning as well, not sure if that is going to help the bowlers. Seems like the Pacers should continue at this moment. India should not rely on the spinners in the first session. If India can remove Rachin Ravindra (who could be dangerous) and Will Young within the next few overs, then they may hope for something good.

It is now too late for the Indian team or fans to think if they can come back in the match. Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Siraj did a good job today morning and got two wickets of the New Zealand team. Both openers Tom Latham and Devon Conway were LBW by Bumrah. But after that Will Young is playing good at 26 and he is joined by Will Young. The required runs are now less than 50 and hence technically it is not possible to put any pressure on the New Zealand batsmen. India should be happy they brought this test to the last day and hope they can get revenge in the next test match.

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Whatever happened has happened. Nothing can be changed now. Not it's time to see if Indian bowlers can do some magic and bundle the Kiwis. To do that, they have to do something extraordinary. For now, the Kiwis need only 72 more runs and they have eight wickets in hand. The outfield was wet this morning as well, not sure if that is going to help the bowlers. Seems like the Pacers should continue at this moment. India should not rely on the spinners in the first session. If India can remove Rachin Ravindra (who could be dangerous) and Will Young within the next few overs, then they may hope for something good.

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Quote from: virasog on October 19, 2024, 11:59:46 PM

New Zealand just played four balls yesterday of their second innings and they made no run and at the same time, they don't have many runs that they have to chase. India did very badly in the first innings as they lost all the wickets at 46 which caused this trouble, they are in at the moment because of their past innings mistake.

In the India's next innings, they had a very good start as Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli made remarkable runs and at the same time, little bit of great score by Jaiswal, he scored 35, which is not too much in the test matches but still good in the context of this match.

Later, Sarfraz Khan made amazing runs of 150 in 195 balls, it helped a lot for the Indian team to make hope for this game and with him, Rishabh Pant played a good innings, missed his century by just one run made a good performance but disappointed finish. After these players, none of the players could stay on the wicket and the Indian team lost all their remaining wickets very quickly.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 19, 2024, 12:36:05 PM

Tomorrow is the last day and New Zealand just have to make 107 runs to win this game and get the lead in this series and I hope they will achieve this milestone. Also keep an eye on the weather too.

New Zealand just played four balls yesterday of their second innings and they made no run and at the same time, they don't have many runs that they have to chase. India did very badly in the first innings as they lost all the wickets at 46 which caused this trouble, they are in at the moment because of their past innings mistake.

But I hope in the next match, they will not repeat the same mistakes. India did very well in the next innings but as I said because of the first innings, they were not able to win or save this match. However, it is not the test Champion Ship final game that they lost both of the times when they get chance to win in the final but anyway, they have to recover from their mistakes. That is it. By the way, we are waiting for the Wet Outfield to get clear to start the first session on Day 05.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 19, 2024, 11:38:34 PM

Weather predictions are not very positive for New Zealand. Rains are predicted throughout the day. There is 100% prediction of rain between 12pm and 3 pm, which means that no play will be possible in the second half of the day. Even in the first half, there is a significant chance of rains, and at the moment the pitch inspection is scheduled to happen by 9:45am. If they can't start the play by 10am, then I don't think that New Zealand will get enough overs to chase down the target set by India.

All they need is 20-30 overs of game time. Yesterday, we also had 28 overs throughout the day, so the Kiwis should have more than enough time to close the game. Of course, they have to be positive and not succumb to pressure.

They should keep reminding themselves that India got only 2 seamers and it's not a typical Indian wicket where the Spin does the talking so just see off Bumrah-Siraj first spell carefully and score runs against spinners.

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Quote from: AirtelBuzz on October 19, 2024, 10:11:48 PM

If the weather conditions are good in Bengaluru today, New Zealand team may have more chances to win this match, their target is only 107 runs. In fact, the Indian batsmen put up a most embarrassing score in their first innings, which makes their chances of winning this match very slim. Although their batting in the second innings was impressive. Indian batsmen batting well in the second innings they can dream of winning this match.

If the Indian bowlers can perform a miracle in today's match i.e. today's innings then maybe India can win this match today but it will depend entirely on luck. In today's match, Bhumra and Md Siraj will have to bowl with the most responsibility as these two bowlers can save India from defeat.

Weather predictions are not very positive for New Zealand. Rains are predicted throughout the day. There is 100% prediction of rain between 12pm and 3 pm, which means that no play will be possible in the second half of the day. Even in the first half, there is a significant chance of rains, and at the moment the pitch inspection is scheduled to happen by 9:45am. If they can't start the play by 10am, then I don't think that New Zealand will get enough overs to chase down the target set by India.

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Quote from: AirtelBuzz on October 19, 2024, 10:11:48 PM

If the Indian bowlers can perform a miracle in today's match i.e. today's innings then maybe India can win this match today but it will depend entirely on luck. In today's match, Bhumra and Md Siraj will have to bowl with the most responsibility as these two bowlers can save India from defeat.

This hasn’t happened for the first time. I remember there was a test match between India and Australia where India gave up 106 runs to chase in the final innings. All thanks to the brilliant bowling of Murali Karthik, for which India were able to restrict Australia in that match. Similar stakes are also there in today’s last inning. The role of Murali Karthik has to be played by Bumrah. If India gets early wickets, then definitely the Indian team can make a comeback. Let’s see what the tabletoppers will do today. Currently at present, there is no sign of rain in Bengaluru.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 19, 2024, 12:36:05 PM

One day is left in this test match and New Zealand is going to get very amazing and wonderful victory. By the way in the end when India has chased their target, the speed of taking wickets by New Zealand's bowler was magical as when India was leading with 1 run then they lost just three wickets and after some time, when they lead the score by 100 runs, they lost all their wickets.

Tomorrow is the last day and New Zealand just have to make 107 runs to win this game and get the lead in this series and I hope they will achieve this milestone. Also keep an eye on the weather too.

If the weather conditions are good in Bengaluru today, New Zealand team may have more chances to win this match, their target is only 107 runs. In fact, the Indian batsmen put up a most embarrassing score in their first innings, which makes their chances of winning this match very slim. Although their batting in the second innings was impressive. Indian batsmen batting well in the second innings they can dream of winning this match.

If the Indian bowlers can perform a miracle in today's match i.e. today's innings then maybe India can win this match today but it will depend entirely on luck. In today's match, Bhumra and Md Siraj will have to bowl with the most responsibility as these two bowlers can save India from defeat.

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There's no doubt, India is one of the strong team in the cricket world but i really shocked even still can't believe, they lost all their wickets within 46-10 runs in 1st inngins of test where many of their good batsmen score zero. Bowlers Matt Henry and William ORourke got 5 & 4 wickets respectively. After such bad incident, i found people trolling them in social media. And when it comes to new Zealand, some of their players Showed extra ordinary batting performance like Devon Conway(91) did a big amount of runs, just missed his century for few runs. Although Rachin Ravindra(134) once again proved himself a legend by his legendary performance, a century. The most impressive part was Tim Southee(65), who did a half century as a blower. And totally they scored 402-10 runs. And afterwards the start of 2nd inngins, this time india took the match too seriously and they also scored more than 462-10 runs where Rishabh Pant(99) missed his century even giving his best effort but Sarfaraz Khan(150) manage to did his century this time and Kohli (70) played well.. now NZ needs to Score 107 runs in 2nd inngins, a good possibility to win the match. Let's see

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Quote from: tsaroz on October 19, 2024, 05:07:55 PM

Despite the effort made by Indian batsmen in the 2nd innings the total they made in the first innings dragged them down and now it's an easy target for New Zealand to follow. Almost all of the primary batsmen of India recovered from the disastrous 1st innings, Sharfaraz making 150, Rishab Pant missing a century by 1 run, Virat and Rohit both with half centuries but none of them are historical records or enough to get India to better position for this match. There are prediction or rain in the early morning and evening in Bengaluru but most of the day, it is going to be clear.

One day and only 107 runs will be collected by the New Zealand team in this case if the rain comes and the whole day is not played, in the unlikely case of a draw. But if for some reason New Zealand can bat even a single session then New Zealand will definitely win. 107 runs for New Zealand is not difficult at all and if there is a batting disaster for some reason it is a different matter but if the game is played then it is certain that India will lose. However, in 2004, India managed to win successfully against Australia with a small lead of 107 runs. It remains to be seen whether India can successfully exploit that 107-run lead today.

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