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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 11, 2024, 08:16:42 AM

Couldn't even complete the toss on the third day of the first Test match between Afghanistan vs New Zealand. Due to rain and bad weather at the venue where this match was originally scheduled to take place, the match will not start and this first test match will be delayed. This game has not started for 3 days and has been abandoned, so this will not be the first match of the Test series, but if the weather is good, the second match may start later. And in this test series between Afghanistan and New Zealand we could have seen a good game but the field condition is not like the game due to which the game was abandoned.

We have three days of no play in this test match and even if there is play possible on the last two days of the match, it will most probably end in a draw. This is no doubt a disappointment for both teams and also for the audience who wanted to see the live action. This match venue is Greater Noida however i came to know that Afghanistan Cricket Board were also told to select Kanpur or Bengaluru as the match venue, but they insisted on Greater Noida and out field on this ground takes longer to dry because it is not based on the soil. So all these factors are not in favor of the play to commence soon.

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Quote from: JahriMeayer on September 11, 2024, 06:53:42 AM

South Africa A vs Sri Lanka A, 1st Unofficial Test match was ongoing but meanwhile Sri Lanka A won by 6 wickets against South Africa A team. In the 1st inngins both team did very decent amount of runs where South Africa A team scored 372-10 runs, Matthew Breetzke(129) did his century, Marques Ackerman(69) also played well and Eshan Malinga got 4 wickets. Besides Sri Lanka A Scored 323-10 runs, Oshada Fernando (121) did his century, Beyers Swanepoel got 4 wickets. Match was going fine but in the 2nd inngins, unfortunately South Africa A lost all of their wickets within 124-10 runs, Isitha Wijesundera is the main game changer who destroyed them by taking 7 wickets lol. That's why Sri Lanka A team started batting again and easily surpassed the Targeted runs and won the match. Congrats Sri Lanka A team for archive the victory and having such skillful bowler like Isitha Wijesundera.

In this I expected Sri Lanka to win and that's what happened in this match. If you look, both the teams have played well in one innings and performed poorly in one. South African batsmen have scored 372 runs in the first innings which could not be completed by the Sri Lankan batsmen. And in the second innings, South Africa scored 124 runs and Sri Lankan batsmen scored 174. And it has won Sri Lanka. If the South African batsmen had played like the first innings, they could have won this match. But due to the pressure on their batsmen and not playing well, the target could not become difficult and they will lose the first match. Not so good performance from Sri Lanka. But the bowlers on both sides have played very well, they have stopped runs on both sides and have also taken wickets. Had South Africa's target been higher in the second innings, their bowlers could have worked harder and put Sri Lanka under pressure. But luck did not support them and they lost the match.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 11, 2024, 08:16:42 AM

Couldn't even complete the toss on the third day of the first Test match between Afghanistan vs New Zealand. Due to rain and bad weather at the venue where this match was originally scheduled to take place, the match will not start and this first test match will be delayed. This game has not started for 3 days and has been abandoned, so this will not be the first match of the Test series, but if the weather is good, the second match may start later. And in this test series between Afghanistan and New Zealand we could have seen a good game but the field condition is not like the game due to which the game was abandoned.

Very Sad feeling for the players of Afghanistan and New Zealand player because the third match day three is also abounded without toss because the gorund conditions are not good, I am surprised that India has more than 50 plus stadiums and why did they choose Greater Noida Sports stadium which does not have the facilities even for club level matches. The ground staff were drying the pitch with the help of a fans which is a shame for the Indian board.I don't think this ground has international level facilities. New Zealand and Afghanistan players deserve better ground and I think the next match should be moved to a better ground.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on September 11, 2024, 08:16:42 AM

Couldn't even complete the toss on the third day of the first Test match between Afghanistan vs New Zealand. Due to rain and bad weather at the venue where this match was originally scheduled to take place, the match will not start and this first test match will be delayed. This game has not started for 3 days and has been abandoned, so this will not be the first match of the Test series, but if the weather is good, the second match may start later. And in this test series between Afghanistan and New Zealand we could have seen a good game but the field condition is not like the game due to which the game was abandoned.

This is the sort of importance being given to test cricket by full member nations. And that is why I am in favor of scrapping the ICC World Test Championship. A lot of time and resources are being wasted in scheduling matches which hardly anyone is interested in. Ideally, test cricket should be played only by the top 6 teams (pig-3 + New Zealand + Pakistan + South Africa). The other teams are not capable of playing this format with sufficient quality. And they are not even interested in playing it, as evident from the ongoing drama at the Greater Noida Sports Complex Ground.

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The squad that India has announced for the two Test matches against Bangladesh shows how serious India is taking this series against Bangladesh. Not just limited to team announcements, a significant number of people have bought tickets with huge sums of money to watch this Test match between India and Bangladesh. Bangladesh recently finished the Test series against Pakistan where Bangladesh defeated Pakistan in two matches to whitewash. Basically this is the only reason to take Bangladesh so seriously. The match between India and Pakistan in the equation is highly competitive but currently the hype can be seen in the match between Bangladesh and India. Hopefully Bangladesh can compete like that against India in the two Test matches.

There is no opportunity to underestimate the opponent. The adversary may be relatively weak but to think of him as weak is a sign of stupidity and incompetence. Because there is no obligation that a weak party will always remain weak. This is the mentality when you make someone feel weak, you will also feel weak with them. When you think your opponent is weak, you will also be mentally weak and it is natural that your opponent will take advantage of this.

As an equation, Bangladesh is relatively weaker team than India. But you would be wrong to ignore Bangladesh's recent performances. Maybe the Indian team has world class bowlers and batsmen, do you think Bangladesh is far behind India? Bangladesh's bowling unit is capable of competing with India's bowling unit. It would not be wrong to even say that Bangladesh's bowling unit may be stronger than India's bowling unit. But the batting department of Bangladesh is far behind the batting department of India. Just because they did bad in the past does not guarantee they will do bad in the future. If the Bangladeshi batsmen can do well then India vs Bangladesh match will be exciting and competitive. Now let's see how the two teams perform during the match.

Considering the equation, Bangladesh lags behind India in all aspects but there is a saying in cricket that whoever does well on the field will get results. Bangladesh has been doing well lately in Tests and other formats, but it is not impossible that Bangladesh can go to Indian soil and defeat India. Basically, since this series is part of the Test Championship, India did not want to take any risk against Bangladesh, that's why they announced the same team against Bangladesh that they announced against Australia or England. However, although Bangladesh have performed well recently, I feel that they will not be able to do much good on Indian soil, the result in this series is more likely to go in favor of India.

You are right I agree with you because cricket is a game of uncertainty the team that performs well on the field will basically win if Bangladesh can give their best against India. Especially if the batting line of Bangladesh can bat responsibly, the game against India will definitely be very competitive. Comparatively when there is a match against India Bangladesh of course Bangladesh cricket team try to perform very responsibly but after winning the test series against Pakistan Bangladesh players are very confident if they can perform well they can beat India too. However, looking at the team announced for India's Test match, we can understand that India has taken Bangladesh team very seriously, they are not weak against the opponent in any way as a weak team. As a Bangladeshi I will definitely support the Bangladesh team and hope from my heart that Bangladesh will perform very well in the Test match and T20 against India and perform to win the match against India and win the Test series or T20 series.

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Couldn't even complete the toss on the third day of the first Test match between Afghanistan vs New Zealand. Due to rain and bad weather at the venue where this match was originally scheduled to take place, the match will not start and this first test match will be delayed. This game has not started for 3 days and has been abandoned, so this will not be the first match of the Test series, but if the weather is good, the second match may start later. And in this test series between Afghanistan and New Zealand we could have seen a good game but the field condition is not like the game due to which the game was abandoned.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on September 10, 2024, 01:24:42 PM

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The squad that India has announced for the two Test matches against Bangladesh shows how serious India is taking this series against Bangladesh. Not just limited to team announcements, a significant number of people have bought tickets with huge sums of money to watch this Test match between India and Bangladesh. Bangladesh recently finished the Test series against Pakistan where Bangladesh defeated Pakistan in two matches to whitewash. Basically this is the only reason to take Bangladesh so seriously. The match between India and Pakistan in the equation is highly competitive but currently the hype can be seen in the match between Bangladesh and India. Hopefully Bangladesh can compete like that against India in the two Test matches.

There is no opportunity to underestimate the opponent. The adversary may be relatively weak but to think of him as weak is a sign of stupidity and incompetence. Because there is no obligation that a weak party will always remain weak. This is the mentality when you make someone feel weak, you will also feel weak with them. When you think your opponent is weak, you will also be mentally weak and it is natural that your opponent will take advantage of this.

As an equation, Bangladesh is relatively weaker team than India. But you would be wrong to ignore Bangladesh's recent performances. Maybe the Indian team has world class bowlers and batsmen, do you think Bangladesh is far behind India? Bangladesh's bowling unit is capable of competing with India's bowling unit. It would not be wrong to even say that Bangladesh's bowling unit may be stronger than India's bowling unit. But the batting department of Bangladesh is far behind the batting department of India. Just because they did bad in the past does not guarantee they will do bad in the future. If the Bangladeshi batsmen can do well then India vs Bangladesh match will be exciting and competitive. Now let's see how the two teams perform during the match.

Considering the equation, Bangladesh lags behind India in all aspects but there is a saying in cricket that whoever does well on the field will get results. Bangladesh has been doing well lately in Tests and other formats, but it is not impossible that Bangladesh can go to Indian soil and defeat India. Basically, since this series is part of the Test Championship, India did not want to take any risk against Bangladesh, that's why they announced the same team against Bangladesh that they announced against Australia or England. However, although Bangladesh have performed well recently, I feel that they will not be able to do much good on Indian soil, the result in this series is more likely to go in favor of India.

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South Africa A vs Sri Lanka A, 1st Unofficial Test match was ongoing but meanwhile Sri Lanka A won by 6 wickets against South Africa A team. In the 1st inngins both team did very decent amount of runs where South Africa A team scored 372-10 runs, Matthew Breetzke(129) did his century, Marques Ackerman(69) also played well and Eshan Malinga got 4 wickets. Besides Sri Lanka A Scored 323-10 runs, Oshada Fernando (121) did his century, Beyers Swanepoel got 4 wickets. Match was going fine but in the 2nd inngins, unfortunately South Africa A lost all of their wickets within 124-10 runs, Isitha Wijesundera is the main game changer who destroyed them by taking 7 wickets lol. That's why Sri Lanka A team started batting again and easily surpassed the Targeted runs and won the match. Congrats Sri Lanka A team for archive the victory and having such skillful bowler like Isitha Wijesundera.

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At the start of the match, most people thought England would win. But the great come back of the Sri Lankan team which helped them to win is definitely commendable, Sri Lanka's great win against England. An 8-wicket win was indeed a joy for Sri Lanka, as it was the first time they had won a Test match by a huge margin against England. Although the England team batted brilliantly on the first day, they did not bat well in the second session, due to which the Sri Lankan team was able to bat well with them later on. However, this great performance by the Sri Lankan team has given the team a lot of energy, and they will try to improve their game further and play well in every match.

You are right. That was not an easy task for Sri Lankan team to win against top class team of the World. Sri Lankan team understood their mistakes in last matches and they tried to learn from their mistakes and the result of that is in front of us. Sri Lankan team need more improvement because they lose the series by 2-1 , that is collectively bad performance. They did excellent in second inning of last match because in the first inning,they were far behind but in the second inning bowlers did excellent bowling in this match and England team could not give good target abc after that Sri Lankan team came in the ground and we saw good partnership between players and due to which they won the match easily by 8 wickets.

As Sri Lankan team's performance is not consistent. They seem to me to be known as an unpredictable team. After losing two consecutive Tests against England, they were almost certain to lose the third match but it was difficult to predict that their performance would change so much at the end of the Test. In the end both the Sri Lankan bowlers and batsmen were on the field hoping to keep good combination. Inspired by their victory Sri Lankan team will surely do well in Test cricket against any team in the future. After losing 2 out of 3 Test matches, they finally bounced back. It was necessary that they got the victory by correcting their mistakes. As England won the series in the match but Sri Lanka did well to their target to the end.

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Quote from: As-Soon-As on September 11, 2024, 01:32:32 AM

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 09, 2024, 02:15:28 AM

BCCI taking Bangladesh seriously and going with a full strength squad.

As far as we know, Indian newcomers will be given places in the Bangladesh and India Test squads, but the squad gives a clear impression that India is taking Bangladesh very seriously.
However, we as supporters of Bangladesh want to say that Bangladesh is currently energized after defeating Pakistan, so we wish that if they do not win the test matches with India, they draw.

Bangladesh team regained their strength after winning against Pakistan team, because the margin of victory against Pakistan team was very high. But the Bangladesh team was more likely to win against India, although in the past Bangladesh and India were not guaranteed to win these matches due to political reasons between Bangladesh and India.

But now the situation is completely reversed, so India will be the most challenging match between Bangladesh. As the Bangladesh team is ready to put up a patient batting performance, Bangladesh team will have a chance to win only if they can perform with the Indian team for a long time.

Since the Bangladesh team had a great win against Pakistan in the Test match, maybe the Bangladesh team will try to improve their strength. If the Bangladesh team plays following the performance they left against Pakistan, the chances of winning against India may be less. Because the Indian team is strong, the chances of Bangladesh against India are very low. But I don't know if there was any difference between playing Bangladesh with India due to political reasons and now Bangladesh can win against India. But I think it will be very difficult for Bangladesh to win the match against India, so I don't think Bangladesh team should be given so much assurance in this match.

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Big example of mismanagement and miscommunication between UP Cricket Association and Afghans.

BCCI offered 3 locations to the Afghan cricket board (Kanpur, Greater Noida and Bangalore) and Afghans opted for GN because of logistics and fans but in doing so they didn't communicate with the UPCA . Greater Noida's stadium is privately owned, rain did some damage but for some reason stadium was in bad shape and the outfield was an embarrassment.

This could've been avoided if ACB or UPCA had a communication channel. One reporter even mentioned that ACB didn't pick up calls from UPCA.

Thanks for posting this. Now there is more clarity on what happened. Now if this is what happened, then I don't think that Afghans have any right to complain about play not happening in the initial two days. On the other hand, it should be the Kiwis who should complain. Anyway, scheduling test matches at this time (when it is rainy season here in India) was a stupid step anyways. If the calendar was not available for other slots, then they should have moved the matches to somewhere else.

Looked more into it and it seems like, their preferred location was Ekna Stadium or Dehradun but BCCI rejected it because of ongoing local tournaments.

I won't blame a single party here because BCCI was also clueless about the poor condition of the stadium, they should've known better or at least consulted with the UPCA, feels like casual approach which is surprising from BCCI as this whole situation turned into a big mess.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 09, 2024, 02:15:28 AM

BCCI taking Bangladesh seriously and going with a full strength squad.

As far as we know, Indian newcomers will be given places in the Bangladesh and India Test squads, but the squad gives a clear impression that India is taking Bangladesh very seriously.
However, we as supporters of Bangladesh want to say that Bangladesh is currently energized after defeating Pakistan, so we wish that if they do not win the test matches with India, they draw.

Bangladesh team regained their strength after winning against Pakistan team, because the margin of victory against Pakistan team was very high. But the Bangladesh team was more likely to win against India, although in the past Bangladesh and India were not guaranteed to win these matches due to political reasons between Bangladesh and India.

But now the situation is completely reversed, so India will be the most challenging match between Bangladesh. As the Bangladesh team is ready to put up a patient batting performance, Bangladesh team will have a chance to win only if they can perform with the Indian team for a long time.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on September 10, 2024, 01:24:42 PM

As an equation, Bangladesh is relatively weaker team than India. But you would be wrong to ignore Bangladesh's recent performances. Maybe the Indian team has world class bowlers and batsmen, do you think Bangladesh is far behind India? Bangladesh's bowling unit is capable of competing with India's bowling unit. It would not be wrong to even say that Bangladesh's bowling unit may be stronger than India's bowling unit. But the batting department of Bangladesh is far behind the batting department of India.

I won't say that Bangladesh's bowling department is stronger than India's because India clearly has some proven world-class bowlers, while Bangladesh has some youngsters. You should consider the fact that India will play on its own ground while Bangladesh is a visitor. Even though Bangladesh has some new bowlers like Nahid Rana, who has become the fastest Bangladeshi pacer lately, I still won't say the Bangladeshi bowling unit is stronger than India.

It seems like the pitches will be spin-friendly. Regarding spin track, India has spinners like Jadeja and Aswin, who are far more experienced than the Bangladeshi spin unit. Shakib is an experienced bowler who may help Bangladesh in such a condition.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 09, 2024, 02:15:28 AM

BCCI taking Bangladesh seriously and going with a full strength squad.

As far as we know, Indian newcomers will be given places in the Bangladesh and India Test squads, but the squad gives a clear impression that India is taking Bangladesh very seriously.
However, we as supporters of Bangladesh want to say that Bangladesh is currently energized after defeating Pakistan, so we wish that if they do not win the test matches with India, they draw.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 10, 2024, 10:31:17 AM

Well.. I am not sure whether this is a genuine comeback by Sri Lanka. This team has been on constant downslide for the last decade or so. One or two wins will not change the long-term situation. The same can be said for Bangladesh as well. The recent win against Pakistan should be treated with caution. Once they start winning matches consistently outside Asia, we can confidently say that their fortunes have changed. But all that said, both these countries need to revamp their domestic cricket structure. Club-based domestic cricket needs to give way to region-based structure.

The first test match of the Srilanka against the England was thrill win for the Srilanka,really it was huge come back from the team Srilanka.Even though the England had won the series,the one match win against the big team like England shows.Srilanka itself not a small team and now the new test series against the New Zealand was most expected by the fans of Srilankan team.The game was different one,but the team who are make participating was important one.Srilanka also faces the good format New Zealand team in upcoming days.

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Quote from: Out of mind on September 10, 2024, 10:38:34 AM

At the start of the match, most people thought England would win. But the great come back of the Sri Lankan team which helped them to win is definitely commendable, Sri Lanka's great win against England. An 8-wicket win was indeed a joy for Sri Lanka, as it was the first time they had won a Test match by a huge margin against England. Although the England team batted brilliantly on the first day, they did not bat well in the second session, due to which the Sri Lankan team was able to bat well with them later on. However, this great performance by the Sri Lankan team has given the team a lot of energy, and they will try to improve their game further and play well in every match.

You are right. That was not an easy task for Sri Lankan team to win against top class team of the World. Sri Lankan team understood their mistakes in last matches and they tried to learn from their mistakes and the result of that is in front of us. Sri Lankan team need more improvement because they lose the series by 2-1 , that is collectively bad performance. They did excellent in second inning of last match because in the first inning,they were far behind but in the second inning bowlers did excellent bowling in this match and England team could not give good target abc after that Sri Lankan team came in the ground and we saw good partnership between players and due to which they won the match easily by 8 wickets.

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Both the teams are unhappy about play not happening. Today at day time there was no rain happening at the Greater Noida Sports Complex Ground, but even then play was not possible because of overnight rain. The drainage facilities were so poor that not even a single over of play was possible. Afghan players were visibly upset, as they rarely get matches against tier-1 test nations. There are even talks about shifting home matches of Afghanistan to the United Arab Emirates.

Big example of mismanagement and miscommunication between UP Cricket Association and Afghans.

BCCI offered 3 locations to the Afghan cricket board (Kanpur, Greater Noida and Bangalore) and Afghans opted for GN because of logistics and fans but in doing so they didn't communicate with the UPCA . Greater Noida's stadium is privately owned, rain did some damage but for some reason stadium was in bad shape and the outfield was an embarrassment.

This could've been avoided if ACB or UPCA had a communication channel. One reporter even mentioned that ACB didn't pick up calls from UPCA.

Thanks for posting this. Now there is more clarity on what happened. Now if this is what happened, then I don't think that Afghans have any right to complain about play not happening in the initial two days. On the other hand, it should be the Kiwis who should complain. Anyway, scheduling test matches at this time (when it is rainy season here in India) was a stupid step anyways. If the calendar was not available for other slots, then they should have moved the matches to somewhere else.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 10, 2024, 01:00:09 PM

Well.. you seems to be very optimistic about Lankan cricket. I am not so much sure about it. A win or two once in a while is not going to do them any good. What they need to do is to win matches regularly, especially during major ICC tournaments. On top of all this, Sri Lanka is currently undergoing an economic turmoil, and that will have an impact on the quality of cricket. In the long run, I am not very hopeful about the situation in Sri Lanka, unlike the case with either India or Pakistan.

No doubt the Sri Lankan team has a great and well-established history in cricket. They have played many matches and achieved numerous wins, but they are not performing consistently like others do. The reason for this, as you already mentioned, is their economic condition. Under these circumstances, I don't think they will perform well. Considering their situation, I believe they are still performing admirably despite all their crises. If there were another team in their place, they might have left cricket very early, but it is the Sri Lankan team that continues to play.

They are facing a lot of issues, such as their economic situation, which will directly affect their performance. If they acknowledge these issues and fulfill their needs, along with making better investments in the team, they will perform exceptionally well once their problems and deficiencies are addressed.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 10, 2024, 12:11:05 PM

Both the teams are unhappy about play not happening. Today at day time there was no rain happening at the Greater Noida Sports Complex Ground, but even then play was not possible because of overnight rain. The drainage facilities were so poor that not even a single over of play was possible. Afghan players were visibly upset, as they rarely get matches against tier-1 test nations. There are even talks about shifting home matches of Afghanistan to the United Arab Emirates.

Big example of mismanagement and miscommunication between UP Cricket Association and Afghans.

BCCI offered 3 locations to the Afghan cricket board (Kanpur, Greater Noida and Bangalore) and Afghans opted for GN because of logistics and fans but in doing so they didn't communicate with the UPCA . Greater Noida's stadium is privately owned, rain did some damage but for some reason stadium was in bad shape and the outfield was an embarrassment.

This could've been avoided if ACB or UPCA had a communication channel. One reporter even mentioned that ACB didn't pick up calls from UPCA.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on September 10, 2024, 12:59:41 PM

The squad that India has announced for the two Test matches against Bangladesh shows how serious India is taking this series against Bangladesh. Not just limited to team announcements, a significant number of people have bought tickets with huge sums of money to watch this Test match between India and Bangladesh. Bangladesh recently finished the Test series against Pakistan where Bangladesh defeated Pakistan in two matches to whitewash. Basically this is the only reason to take Bangladesh so seriously. The match between India and Pakistan in the equation is highly competitive but currently the hype can be seen in the match between Bangladesh and India. Hopefully Bangladesh can compete like that against India in the two Test matches.

There is no opportunity to underestimate the opponent. The adversary may be relatively weak but to think of him as weak is a sign of stupidity and incompetence. Because there is no obligation that a weak party will always remain weak. This is the mentality when you make someone feel weak, you will also feel weak with them. When you think your opponent is weak, you will also be mentally weak and it is natural that your opponent will take advantage of this.

As an equation, Bangladesh is relatively weaker team than India. But you would be wrong to ignore Bangladesh's recent performances. Maybe the Indian team has world class bowlers and batsmen, do you think Bangladesh is far behind India? Bangladesh's bowling unit is capable of competing with India's bowling unit. It would not be wrong to even say that Bangladesh's bowling unit may be stronger than India's bowling unit. But the batting department of Bangladesh is far behind the batting department of India. Just because they did bad in the past does not guarantee they will do bad in the future. If the Bangladeshi batsmen can do well then India vs Bangladesh match will be exciting and competitive. Now let's see how the two teams perform during the match.

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