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Blundell making blunders, first easy catch of Pant dropped in first inning, although it didn't cost at all then but and in this inning, he missed run-out when Pant was on single digit score and now is on his way to make century.
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If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
I think it's the other way around. India seems to be pushing for results, not a draw. Rain might help Kiwis a bit because Indians are scoring runs at some pace and soon will look to set the target, but such breaks could ruin momentum and give the opposition time to regroup.

I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.

Some people are backing India to win this match while others still think New Zealand are in a comfortable position. I think the most popular opinion can be determined by looking at what the bookies are offering odds at this moment.

With India, they are offering 3.30 odds which clearly suggests that New Zealand is still considered the favourite to win this match. I do not know how they calculate odds because as current situation i rekon India has more winning chances as compared to the New Zealand team.



Yes, looking at the pace of India's game at present, many are hoping for a win in their favor, moreover, New Zealand is still in a comfortable position, in that case, it is not yet certain who will win. According to the bookies' offers, New Zealand has a high chance of winning, but here we can't bet that much whether New Zealand will win. Although the betting odds still see New Zealand as heavy favorites to win, I don't think this match will be a win. As the match is currently abandoned due to rain, India is still ahead of New Zealand in the odds of winning, however, India is still 12 runs behind New Zealand. But if India can give a lead of 200 runs, then the chances of New Zealand's victory will be less and the chances of India's victory will be more.
After a batting disaster in the first innings, the Indian team is trying to play well in the second innings and the fourth day's play is underway but the match is currently suspended due to rain. India are still trailing by 12 runs and I think they might lose this Test to New Zealand. I have to agree with your opinion that New Zealand are more likely to win as they are not batting now in the second innings and the fourth day's play continues today. However, going into bat against India the opposition team needed to score more runs although New Zealand stopped at 402 runs. If India lose this match I will give full credit to Matt Henry and William ORourke who didn't give any chance to the Indian batsmen in the first innings. Matt Henry took 5 wickets for 15 runs in 13.2 overs which was truly remarkable and William ORourke took 4 wickets. If the game is not played due to rain I think New Zealand have a high chance of winning as per ICC rules they can declare the team ahead as the winner.
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Advantage with India now. Sarfaraz Khan batting at 125, while Rishabh Pant has made 53 till now. India has gained a lead of 12 runs. The pitch is offering a lot of support for the spin bowlers, and in case India can get the lead above 200, then New Zealand will be in trouble. The New Zealand skipper is doing the mistake of over-relying on his spinners. He should ideally use a mix of spin and pace, as the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spin (irrespective of the pitch conditions).

Imagine if this scenario becomes true that India gets a good lead and then New Zealand struggle against the spin bowling and loses the match. It will be one of the first matches in history where a team out in less than 50 runs in the first innings manages to win the game from that miserable situation.

By the way, are we in another twist in this match? Indian team were going well and now there is rain in the ground. This means that once the play resumes, the conditions will change a bit and this can give opportunity to the New Zealand to pick in some quick wickets and bounce back in the match. This rain is more beneficial for the New Zealand team as compared to the Indian team.

The India team was struggling in the first innings but after that they did an amazing performance and a wonderful comeback in their second innings as they will get the lead after scoring 12 more runs but the bad luck is this the rain has come and the game has stopped. I do not know after the rain, how much time will need to dry the outfield before the match will resume but I hope this match will finish with the result.

Already the day one was wasted because of the rain and so far I am looking the same on this day. Hope for the best and let's see what's going on. Today is the second last day. This is a tense match and everyone would like to see the result of this match.
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I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.

India seems to look too good with that bat right now. I agree that the rain may change the condition of the pitch. But I won't say 180-200 is safe to defend. I expect them to set at least a 250-300 target from here. We still have another day. If the Indian can play the whole three sessions today without losing too many wickets, they should start tomorrow with T20 style to set a good target as soon as possible and let the Kiwis bat again. Nothing is impossible. Unfortunately, the rain seems too heavy at the moment. We may head to a draw if the rest of the session gets washed out.
Rain interval won't help India if they are eyeing for 250-300 final total because they need time to do that and we have around 60-70 overs remaining today + 80-ish over tomorrow, given there is no interval but due to rain we are already started losing overs, then bad light is a big issue as well.

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Some people are backing India to win this match while others still think New Zealand are in a comfortable position. I think the most popular opinion can be determined by looking at what the bookies are offering odds at this moment.

With India, they are offering 3.30 odds which clearly suggests that New Zealand is still considered the favourite to win this match. I do not know how they calculate odds because as current situation i rekon India has more winning chances as compared to the New Zealand team.


Odds are still favoring Kiwis and rightly so, after all they need a couple of quick wickets and it should do the job. New Zealand must back themselves and try to get a run through the Indian middle order if it happens then it should be an easy win.

India does have a small window because they are batting fearlessly and showing a character but they are up against time and rain. If we lose 1 full session due to rain then India's chances will take a heavy dent and only 2 results will be on the cards, Draw or NZ's winning the match.
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If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
I think it's the other way around. India seems to be pushing for results, not a draw. Rain might help Kiwis a bit because Indians are scoring runs at some pace and soon will look to set the target, but such breaks could ruin momentum and give the opposition time to regroup.

I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.

Some people are backing India to win this match while others still think New Zealand are in a comfortable position. I think the most popular opinion can be determined by looking at what the bookies are offering odds at this moment.

With India, they are offering 3.30 odds which clearly suggests that New Zealand is still considered the favourite to win this match. I do not know how they calculate odds because as current situation i rekon India has more winning chances as compared to the New Zealand team.



Yes, looking at the pace of India's game at present, many are hoping for a win in their favor, moreover, New Zealand is still in a comfortable position, in that case, it is not yet certain who will win. According to the bookies' offers, New Zealand has a high chance of winning, but here we can't bet that much whether New Zealand will win. Although the betting odds still see New Zealand as heavy favorites to win, I don't think this match will be a win. As the match is currently abandoned due to rain, India is still ahead of New Zealand in the odds of winning, however, India is still 12 runs behind New Zealand. But if India can give a lead of 200 runs, then the chances of New Zealand's victory will be less and the chances of India's victory will be more.
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If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
I think it's the other way around. India seems to be pushing for results, not a draw. Rain might help Kiwis a bit because Indians are scoring runs at some pace and soon will look to set the target, but such breaks could ruin momentum and give the opposition time to regroup.

I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.

Some people are backing India to win this match while others still think New Zealand are in a comfortable position. I think the most popular opinion can be determined by looking at what the bookies are offering odds at this moment.

With India, they are offering 3.30 odds which clearly suggests that New Zealand is still considered the favourite to win this match. I do not know how they calculate odds because as current situation i rekon India has more winning chances as compared to the New Zealand team.

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I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.

India seems to look too good with that bat right now. I agree that the rain may change the condition of the pitch. But I won't say 180-200 is safe to defend. I expect them to set at least a 250-300 target from here. We still have another day. If the Indian can play the whole three sessions today without losing too many wickets, they should start tomorrow with T20 style to set a good target as soon as possible and let the Kiwis bat again. Nothing is impossible. Unfortunately, the rain seems too heavy at the moment. We may head to a draw if the rest of the session gets washed out.
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Advantage with India now. Sarfaraz Khan batting at 125, while Rishabh Pant has made 53 till now. India has gained a lead of 12 runs. The pitch is offering a lot of support for the spin bowlers, and in case India can get the lead above 200, then New Zealand will be in trouble. The New Zealand skipper is doing the mistake of over-relying on his spinners. He should ideally use a mix of spin and pace, as the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spin (irrespective of the pitch conditions).



After losing all wickets for just 46 runs in the first innings, every batsman in India is able to bat very responsibly in the second innings. Now the match is being delayed due to rain. However, India managed to collect 344/3 before the rains started. Sharfaraz Khan remains unbeaten with 125 runs and Pant 53 runs. The team has collected a huge score of 344 runs in 71 overs. But the Indian team is still behind by 12 runs.

If India doesn't get a chance to bat today then there is a big possibility that the match will be a draw. India India's batsmen are batting brilliantly in the second innings. As every batsman is able to bat very well then it will not be difficult for India to bat more 70/80 overs. And if India can bat more 70/80 overs, the match is more likely to be a draw.
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Advantage with India now. Sarfaraz Khan batting at 125, while Rishabh Pant has made 53 till now. India has gained a lead of 12 runs. The pitch is offering a lot of support for the spin bowlers, and in case India can get the lead above 200, then New Zealand will be in trouble. The New Zealand skipper is doing the mistake of over-relying on his spinners. He should ideally use a mix of spin and pace, as the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spin (irrespective of the pitch conditions).

Imagine if this scenario becomes true that India gets a good lead and then New Zealand struggle against the spin bowling and loses the match. It will be one of the first matches in history where a team out in less than 50 runs in the first innings manages to win the game from that miserable situation.

By the way, are we in another twist in this match? Indian team were going well and now there is rain in the ground. This means that once the play resumes, the conditions will change a bit and this can give opportunity to the New Zealand to pick in some quick wickets and bounce back in the match. This rain is more beneficial for the New Zealand team as compared to the Indian team.

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If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
I think it's the other way around. India seems to be pushing for results, not a draw. Rain might help Kiwis a bit because Indians are scoring runs at some pace and soon will look to set the target, but such breaks could ruin momentum and give the opposition time to regroup.

I'd back Indian bowlers to defend the total on 5th day pitch, even if it's around 180-200 runs.
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Advantage with India now. Sarfaraz Khan batting at 125, while Rishabh Pant has made 53 till now. India has gained a lead of 12 runs. The pitch is offering a lot of support for the spin bowlers, and in case India can get the lead above 200, then New Zealand will be in trouble. The New Zealand skipper is doing the mistake of over-relying on his spinners. He should ideally use a mix of spin and pace, as the Indian batsmen are very comfortable against spin (irrespective of the pitch conditions).
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Sarfaraz freaking Khan! You beauty! He is the perfect example of hard work can do wonders and it felt great to see him score a well deserved century with Pant supporting him really well at the other end.

If rain keeps interfering again and again, NZ are screwed. This match will end as a draw if that happens or if India collapse which seems unlikely to me. Great fightback India.
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Also, congratulations Pakistan on winning the second test, but the decider is the final test and I feel that the odds are evenly balanced between them now.
Instead of a draw in the first match, Pakistan lost and it really hurt the Pakistani fans. However, Pakistan's revenge victory in the last second Test match has filled the hearts of Pakistani supporters with joy. However, some bowling changes in the Pakistan squad played a vital role in winning this match. Shahenshah Afridi, Naseem Shah, Sajid Shah has been included in the change of these two bowlers, this match has easily gone in Pakistan's favor. However, congratulations are in order for Pakistan to win this face-to-face revenge match.
Not just bowling, pakistan batting side had a good roar in this match due to which a big run board was created. Pakistan made quite a few radical changes after their innings defeat in the first Test. The selection committee was rejigged. Babar azam, naseem shah and shaheen afridi were omitted. first one is always special, it has come after some hard times. A lot has happened over the last week. For everyone to work together, to come up with a strategy to pick 20 wickets and make it happen, that's the most satisfying thing. On the other hand, noman has proved once again that he is one of the best experienced players. A wicket in the first innings and a wicket in the second innings as well, which led pakistan to a quick victory.
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India team bounce back again in game and their effort in 2 nd Inning is quite intense and good. They lost 3 wickets Kohli, Sharma and Jaiswal. They made 231 runs in 49 overs and they need 125 runs more to chase. New Zealand team effort in game is mind blowing especially in bowling line, they dismissed all wickets of Indian monster player for 46 runs only in test game. In their 1 st batting line, they 402 runs and this was also so good. Rachin made a brilliant century in 1 st Inning and he made total 134 runs in 157 balls and hitted thirteen 4s and four 6s. Conway also played quite well in batting and he made 99 runs in 105 balls and hitted eleven 4s and three 6s. I don't think that India team will win this game because they chased all remaining runs of New Zealand team and they will trail 200 to 250 more runs to New Zealand team for 2 nd Inning and this runs will easy for New Zealand batsman to chase. Let's see what happen in next how much Indian team will grab runs.

So far so good for the Indian team. Sarfaraz Khan had made a century batting on 113 and with him Rishabh Pant is playing at 24 runs. India have completed the 300 runs mark with the loss of only 3 wickets.

This means that they are only about 50 runs behind the New Zealand score and they are in a position to give themselves a reasonable target against the New Zealand team. Anyway, the job is not over yet. They have to keep on playing like this until they get the 250+ lead. Still seems difficult but as long as these two batsmen are at the wicket and others to follow also play well, India can reach a respectable position in this match. Remember they were 46 all out in the first innings, how well they have recovered in the 2nd innings.  Smiley
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Also, congratulations Pakistan on winning the second test, but the decider is the final test and I feel that the odds are evenly balanced between them now.
Instead of a draw in the first match, Pakistan lost and it really hurt the Pakistani fans. However, Pakistan's revenge victory in the last second Test match has filled the hearts of Pakistani supporters with joy. However, some bowling changes in the Pakistan squad played a vital role in winning this match. Shahenshah Afridi, Naseem Shah, Sajid Shah has been included in the change of these two bowlers, this match has easily gone in Pakistan's favor. However, congratulations are in order for Pakistan to win this face-to-face revenge match.
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India team bounce back again in game and their effort in 2 nd Inning is quite intense and good. They lost 3 wickets Kohli, Sharma and Jaiswal. They made 231 runs in 49 overs and they need 125 runs more to chase. New Zealand team effort in game is mind blowing especially in bowling line, they dismissed all wickets of Indian monster player for 46 runs only in test game. In their 1 st batting line, they 402 runs and this was also so good. Rachin made a brilliant century in 1 st Inning and he made total 134 runs in 157 balls and hitted thirteen 4s and four 6s. Conway also played quite well in batting and he made 99 runs in 105 balls and hitted eleven 4s and three 6s. I don't think that India team will win this game because they chased all remaining runs of New Zealand team and they will trail 200 to 250 more runs to New Zealand team for 2 nd Inning and this runs will easy for New Zealand batsman to chase. Let's see what happen in next how much Indian team will grab runs.

Overcast conditions are gone that that took the sting out of the Kiwi pace attack. After Yashasvi Jaiswal and Rohit Sharma got out cheaply, Virat Kohli and Sarfaraz Khan managed to cement the Indian innings. All the three wickets which Kiwi bowlers took went to spinners yesterday. Ajaz Patel took two, while Glenn Phillips managed to nab Virat Kohli. And that shows how the pitch changed it's nature in the last 1-2 days. Still two days to go, and there is a good chance that we may get a result from this match.  
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Nice to see Pakistan win a test. Pakistan ways have a nice team but they lack execution. Even in this test match I believed Pakistan were going to lose as all England needed to win on the 2nd innings was 297. They would have won it of they had collected 297 before all their wickets fell but the England's wicket fell sooner letting Pakistan win it by a good run margin. Sajid Khan was the prime bowling force for Pakistan in 1st innings taking 7 wickets while Noman Ali had been the hero for Pakistan in the second innings. He alone took 8 wickets in the inning.
The series is now 1-1 and the final test would determine the winner
 
Yeah In second test game, pakistan beat England with big runs. Pakistan batsman makes 366 run in first inning and england batsman makes 291 run in first inning and lose the match. Then in the second innings, Pakistan batsmen scored 221 runs and England batsmen scored 144 runs. England batsmen did not play well in this match due to which they faced defeat. Salman had the most runs in Pakistan's second innings scored 63 runs off 89 balls. Kamran Ghulam scored 26 runs off 39 balls. The high number of runs in England second innings was Ben Stokes who score 37 runs in 36 ball.  Next were those of Brydon carse who score 27 runs off 32 balls. The main role in Pakistan victory is their bowlers Sajid and Nouman who took all wickets and put England under pressure which led to their defeat.
India team bounce back again in game and their effort in 2 nd Inning is quite intense and good. They lost 3 wickets Kohli, Sharma and Jaiswal. They made 231 runs in 49 overs and they need 125 runs more to chase. New Zealand team effort in game is mind blowing especially in bowling line, they dismissed all wickets of Indian monster player for 46 runs only in test game. In their 1 st batting line, they 402 runs and this was also so good. Rachin made a brilliant century in 1 st Inning and he made total 134 runs in 157 balls and hitted thirteen 4s and four 6s. Conway also played quite well in batting and he made 99 runs in 105 balls and hitted eleven 4s and three 6s. I don't think that India team will win this game because they chased all remaining runs of New Zealand team and they will trail 200 to 250 more runs to New Zealand team for 2 nd Inning and this runs will easy for New Zealand batsman to chase. Let's see what happen in next how much Indian team will grab runs.
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According to the calculations, the chances of the Indian cricket team getting the lead are very low. Because the players of the Indian team are in a rut right from the start of the game. The Indian team is caught in a difficult crisis in the batting phase of the first innings of the Indian team. I don't think Indian team players will be able to stand high against New Zealand team in this match. In this first Test match, there is a high probability that the Indian players will succumb to the tactics of the New Zealand players.
If they could have bowled New Zealand out for 200 or 250 runs and scored 400 runs in the second innings then maybe India team would have won this match but none of these happened so I think Indian team's loss is confirmed in this match. Only waiting for time now. It will be one way for the Indian team to score another 200 runs and bowl out the New Zealand team for 60 runs in the next innings. But that is very impossible.
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That is what happens when you have faith in your team. I am curious what you thought when India collapsed in the first innings. I guess the odds were juicer at that time. It's the end of day three, and India is well behind but lost three wickets so far. Now, day number four will turn the game more into one side. If India manages to bat the whole three sessions, then they may gather some good runs. Yet, I am pretty sure India is going to lose this match.
We may see batting failure of New Zealand if India somehow manages to take a good lead tomorrow by playing the whole day. India has made a great comeback today. Still, New Zealand is favourite to win the match. The chance is very low for India to take a good lead. They won't be able to restrict New Zealand with a small target.

For India to win, they will have to bat well tomorrow. They are still 125 runs behind so first they have to level the score and then get a lead of 250. Once they do this, then they have to bowl out the New Zealand team for under 200-250 runs. All this seems realistic on paper but making this happen on the ground is not practically easy.

A more likely scenario that I see happening is that India may be able to make 250 more runs and New Zealand may get some 140-160 runs target which they will chase easily. I have presented two possible situations in this match and let's see which one plays out.
According to the calculations, the chances of the Indian cricket team getting the lead are very low. Because the players of the Indian team are in a rut right from the start of the game. The Indian team is caught in a difficult crisis in the batting phase of the first innings of the Indian team. I don't think Indian team players will be able to stand high against New Zealand team in this match. In this first Test match, there is a high probability that the Indian players will succumb to the tactics of the New Zealand players.
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That is what happens when you have faith in your team. I am curious what you thought when India collapsed in the first innings. I guess the odds were juicer at that time. It's the end of day three, and India is well behind but lost three wickets so far. Now, day number four will turn the game more into one side. If India manages to bat the whole three sessions, then they may gather some good runs. Yet, I am pretty sure India is going to lose this match.
We may see batting failure of New Zealand if India somehow manages to take a good lead tomorrow by playing the whole day. India has made a great comeback today. Still, New Zealand is favourite to win the match. The chance is very low for India to take a good lead. They won't be able to restrict New Zealand with a small target.

For India to win, they will have to bat well tomorrow. They are still 125 runs behind so first they have to level the score and then get a lead of 250. Once they do this, then they have to bowl out the New Zealand team for under 200-250 runs. All this seems realistic on paper but making this happen on the ground is not practically easy.

A more likely scenario that I see happening is that India may be able to make 250 more runs and New Zealand may get some 140-160 runs target which they will chase easily. I have presented two possible situations in this match and let's see which one plays out.
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