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Quote from: kingangel on November 13, 2021, 02:21:06 AM

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Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

People don't hate each other its the politicians who malign heart and minds of innocent people for there political gains. Pakistan and India should play more and more cricket together, so that players of both sides don't feel immense pressure during the match. Media houses are just puppet of politicians so we cant expect anything good from them. See yourself, under how much pressure Indian team played the game against Pak in this t20 WC.

Yes these politicians and the media and specially so much false media of social media platform are spoiling the things up. We always felt there should be regular matches between india and pakistan. Specially test cricket we have not saw them play with each other since a very long time. Dont know when this gonna happen though Huh

I really hope we see them play with each other soon

I do not know who to be blamed but sports should not have politics. If both the government by any chance allow them to play then the opposition parties in both countries will create a new issue. Then mainstream media will try to in cash this opportunity for higher ratings. This is a never-ending story and we as cricket fans cannot do anything here.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 12, 2021, 07:56:56 AM

India and New Zealand starting their next WTC cycle against each other.

BCCI announced their squad for 2 test match series.
- Virat Kohli is resting for 1st test match. Ajinkya will lead the team in his absense.
- Rohit, Bumrah, Shami and Pant are rested.

Wow seems like a complete new Indian test team. At first I thought it's Indian second sting team. Kohli is rested or he is removed from test captaincy also ( any source from bcci that can clarify that ). These major changes are done in the light of recent T20 WC. NZ has good test squad and this team need to play well to win the game.

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Quote from: Fritwakky on November 12, 2021, 02:38:24 PM

Quote from: Vaskiy on November 12, 2021, 02:30:18 PM

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

People don't hate each other its the politicians who malign heart and minds of innocent people for there political gains. Pakistan and India should play more and more cricket together, so that players of both sides don't feel immense pressure during the match. Media houses are just puppet of politicians so we cant expect anything good from them. See yourself, under how much pressure Indian team played the game against Pak in this t20 WC.

Yes these politicians and the media and specially so much false media of social media platform are spoiling the things up. We always felt there should be regular matches between india and pakistan. Specially test cricket we have not saw them play with each other since a very long time. Dont know when this gonna happen though Huh

I really hope we see them play with each other soon

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Quote from: Vaskiy on November 12, 2021, 02:30:18 PM

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

People don't hate each other its the politicians who malign heart and minds of innocent people for there political gains. Pakistan and India should play more and more cricket together, so that players of both sides don't feel immense pressure during the match. Media houses are just puppet of politicians so we cant expect anything good from them. See yourself, under how much pressure Indian team played the game against Pak in this t20 WC.

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Quote from: BALIK on November 12, 2021, 10:41:23 AM

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WI have toured Pakistan previously and there is nothing strange in there new tour in Dec 2021. Aus tour announcement just before semi final is strange, they never visited Pakistan in 24 years and now planning to visit Pakistan in Mar 2022 and that too just before semi final. Aus should tour or cancel in advance, must not do stuff like NZ did.
Nonetheless its all positive news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan.

It's a natural things change even in Pakistan case it's taking some more time and have serious troubles, but this change will happen because we all know 220 Millions peoples living and having some good life with many benefits and troubles is not a joke. Teams like Australia, England and New Zealand have some better hold, so just because of this they have done to blackmail Third World countries.
Now after IPL BCCI factor is also having big impact on ICC, and they have never been Pakistan friendly just because of this they are facing troubles. One thing is sure no one can ignore Pakistan in long run even they have not good financial benefits India, Pakistan rivalry is just a hate from few peoples, so it's never going to end because of education and religion affairs.

India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

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Quote from: BALIK on November 12, 2021, 10:41:23 AM

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India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

Seems like things are going a bit in favor of Pakistan as CA (though partially) announces tour to Pakistan in Mar next year, while England also confirm tour to Pakistan next year. BCCI is richest board and has major influence on ICC decisions, people on both sides of India and Pak don't hate each other. Just see how players of both team meet and greet in recent encounter. Lets hope this rivalry end soon and we see quality cricket in sub-continent.

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Quote from: jaberwock on November 11, 2021, 03:53:25 PM

Quote from: galambo on November 11, 2021, 08:09:15 AM

WI have toured Pakistan previously and there is nothing strange in there new tour in Dec 2021. Aus tour announcement just before semi final is strange, they never visited Pakistan in 24 years and now planning to visit Pakistan in Mar 2022 and that too just before semi final. Aus should tour or cancel in advance, must not do stuff like NZ did.
Nonetheless its all positive news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan.

It's a natural things change even in Pakistan case it's taking some more time and have serious troubles, but this change will happen because we all know 220 Millions peoples living and having some good life with many benefits and troubles is not a joke. Teams like Australia, England and New Zealand have some better hold, so just because of this they have done to blackmail Third World countries.
Now after IPL BCCI factor is also having big impact on ICC, and they have never been Pakistan friendly just because of this they are facing troubles. One thing is sure no one can ignore Pakistan in long run even they have not good financial benefits India, Pakistan rivalry is just a hate from few peoples, so it's never going to end because of education and religion affairs.

India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

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India and New Zealand starting their next WTC cycle against each other.

BCCI announced their squad for 2 test match series.
- Virat Kohli is resting for 1st test match. Ajinkya will lead the team in his absense.
- Rohit, Bumrah, Shami and Pant are rested.

- Hanuma Vihari was missing from the Indian national team, guess they want him to play in SENA countries only that's why he has been added into India A team (this one is old screenshot) for South Africa tour. They are touring South Africa for 3 first class match.

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Quote from: jaberwock on November 11, 2021, 03:53:25 PM

It's a natural things change even in Pakistan case it's taking some more time and have serious troubles, but this change will happen because we all know 220 Millions peoples living and having some good life with many benefits and troubles is not a joke. Teams like Australia, England and New Zealand have some better hold, so just because of this they have done to blackmail Third World countries.

Pak has learned alot from there mistake in providing security to SL team back in 2009. Just see how much security they provide even to woman teams of foreign countries. But its painful to hear statements like ECB, CA are not touring Pak because they pay more value to security to players, they mean that SL, WI, Zimbabwe, SA n Bangladesh don't pay mush value to players security.

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Now after IPL BCCI factor is also having big impact on ICC, and they have never been Pakistan friendly just because of this they are facing troubles. One thing is sure no one can ignore Pakistan in long run even they have not good financial benefits India, Pakistan rivalry is just a hate from few peoples, so it's never going to end because of education and religion affairs.

Pakistan in recent WC has proved one thing very well with there performance that they can't be ignored.

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Quote from: galambo on November 11, 2021, 08:09:15 AM

WI have toured Pakistan previously and there is nothing strange in there new tour in Dec 2021. Aus tour announcement just before semi final is strange, they never visited Pakistan in 24 years and now planning to visit Pakistan in Mar 2022 and that too just before semi final. Aus should tour or cancel in advance, must not do stuff like NZ did.
Nonetheless its all positive news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan.

It's a natural things change even in Pakistan case it's taking some more time and have serious troubles, but this change will happen because we all know 220 Millions peoples living and having some good life with many benefits and troubles is not a joke. Teams like Australia, England and New Zealand have some better hold, so just because of this they have done to blackmail Third World countries.

Now after IPL BCCI factor is also having big impact on ICC, and they have never been Pakistan friendly just because of this they are facing troubles. One thing is sure no one can ignore Pakistan in long run even they have not good financial benefits India, Pakistan rivalry is just a hate from few peoples, so it's never going to end because of education and religion affairs.

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Ashes will decide his career and he has a habit of giving such statements. He was also very vocal about Poms when there was some confusion on upcoming Ashes series due to covid quarantine . Dude was also calling for Ban on Afghanistan team when Taliban took over the power, guess after that Afghan captain also retaliated on his statement.

The best response was given by Ashwin in the 4th Test during India's tour of Australia when Tim was trolling him and the response from Ashwin was that his career will be over once he tours India Cheesy

. The funny aspect is that Tim is vocal but not intimidating like the old Australian players who used to get under every touring players skin Cheesy

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He did earn plenty of praise from all cricketing pundits when India toured them right after Sand paper scandal. Rightly so he led his team beautifully when there was a crisis, before him Aussie were known for their Pack of Wolves type of behavior. Countless encounters when they ganged up on opposition players, last incident was Warner-De Kock which ended with Sand paper scandal.

But he forgot that he needs to back his bantering behavior with performance and positive. No one raised the eyebrows when they lost first home series to India but Ashes series, particularly 1 match changed the tide and to make thing worse he also failed to win game against India at SCG from winning position, that's where problem started and then Gabba happened.

^ Well, sledging is nothing new and we all know that Aussies are great at it. And they do it more often than not. But Tim badmouthing an umpire, that's kind of a big offense. Because umpires are not your friend. They are officials who are maintaining the rules and regulations of the match. If it's a prayer then well, you might be friends with him or maybe something might be going on between you two, but not in the case of umpires. Maybe this time he'll understand ""the difference"" lol.

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Quote from: perfect999 on November 10, 2021, 05:21:51 PM

But, one thing is very interesting why we have 2 big news in same time, first Australian Cricket Board announces about tour of Pakistan and then England Cricket Board Chairman in Pakistan for talks with PCB officials about their future tour and having apologizing about their attitude which bring some misunderstanding between these two boards third one West indies Cricket Board announces their tour of Pakistan for 6 matches I have nothing about these all if someone can give it is surely good just winning 5 matches having impact like this is really strange for me.

WI have toured Pakistan previously and there is nothing strange in there new tour in Dec 2021. Aus tour announcement just before semi final is strange, they never visited Pakistan in 24 years and now planning to visit Pakistan in Mar 2022 and that too just before semi final. Aus should tour or cancel in advance, must not do stuff like NZ did.
Nonetheless its all positive news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 10, 2021, 06:02:45 PM

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Ashes will decide his career and he has a habit of giving such statements. He was also very vocal about Poms when there was some confusion on upcoming Ashes series due to covid quarantine . Dude was also calling for Ban on Afghanistan team when Taliban took over the power, guess after that Afghan captain also retaliated on his statement.

The best response was given by Ashwin in the 4th Test during India's tour of Australia when Tim was trolling him and the response from Ashwin was that his career will be over once he tours India Cheesy

. The funny aspect is that Tim is vocal but not intimidating like the old Australian players who used to get under every touring players skin Cheesy

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He did earn plenty of praise from all cricketing pundits when India toured them right after Sand paper scandal. Rightly so he led his team beautifully when there was a crisis, before him Aussie were known for their Pack of Wolves type of behavior. Countless encounters when they ganged up on opposition players, last incident was Warner-De Kock which ended with Sand paper scandal.

But he forgot that he needs to back his bantering behavior with performance and positive. No one raised the eyebrows when they lost first home series to India but Ashes series, particularly 1 match changed the tide and to make thing worse he also failed to win game against India at SCG from winning position, that's where problem started and then Gabba happened.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 10, 2021, 08:55:27 PM

If Pakistan is able to beat Australia and reach the finals then ACB might send their best team to Pakistan. It seems Ramiz Raja has been lucky for the team as soon as he joined the PCB this teams performance has changed drastically. They are consistently playing very good now and you never know they might win the world cup this time.

What happens in T20 format will have minimal impact on the test squad. In all probability, CA will send a second string side as the main players will pull out of the tour. And it is going to be easy for Pakistan, given the home advantage. But before this tour, Australia will be facing England in the Ashes. If they lose that series, I expect heads to roll. If the performance is exceptionally poor, then in all probability Tim Paine is not even going to remain in the playing XI. And for Pakistan, this is going to be another chance to get a win against a pig-4 team.

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it’s a clear hint of things to come, and it’s logical to say that in the end Australia’s reserve player’s will go on the tour with the exception of one or two big player’s being part of the team.

Furthermore it’ll be interesting to see PCB stand on this, because if Pakistan player’s keep playing with reserve team, it’ll hurt their morale, hence PCB should do their best to get Australia’s top player’s to come for this tour.

Right now main focus is T20 world cup now we have only 2 matches left and then all teams will be available for their own schedules.

But, one thing is very interesting why we have 2 big news in same time, first Australian Cricket Board announces about tour of Pakistan and then England Cricket Board Chairman in Pakistan for talks with PCB officials about their future tour and having apologizing about their attitude which bring some misunderstanding between these two boards third one West indies Cricket Board announces their tour of Pakistan for 6 matches I have nothing about these all if someone can give it is surely good just winning 5 matches having impact like this is really strange for me.

If Pakistan is able to beat Australia and reach the finals then ACB might send their best team to Pakistan. It seems Ramiz Raja has been lucky for the team as soon as he joined the PCB this teams performance has changed drastically. They are consistently playing very good now and you never know they might win the world cup this time.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 10, 2021, 01:51:22 AM

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it’s logical to say that in the end Australia’s reserve player’s will go on the tour with the exception of one or two big player’s being part of the team.

Furthermore it’ll be interesting to see PCB stand on this, because if Pakistan player’s keep playing with reserve team, it’ll hurt their morale, hence PCB should do their best to get Australia’s top player’s to come for this tour.

If Australia sends a second string team why would Pakistan force them to send their best team. It is the best opportunity for them to dominate Australia and ten years from now, if you look at the records, it just says a dominating victory against Australia and it will not mention about the team strength they sent Cheesy

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 10, 2021, 05:12:03 PM

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Ashes will decide his career and he has a habit of giving such statements. He was also very vocal about Poms when there was some confusion on upcoming Ashes series due to covid quarantine . Dude was also calling for Ban on Afghanistan team when Taliban took over the power, guess after that Afghan captain also retaliated on his statement.

The best response was given by Ashwin in the 4th Test during India's tour of Australia when Tim was trolling him and the response from Ashwin was that his career will be over once he tours India Cheesy

. The funny aspect is that Tim is vocal but not intimidating like the old Australian players who used to get under every touring players skin Cheesy

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 10, 2021, 01:51:22 AM

it’s a clear hint of things to come, and it’s logical to say that in the end Australia’s reserve player’s will go on the tour with the exception of one or two big player’s being part of the team.

Furthermore it’ll be interesting to see PCB stand on this, because if Pakistan player’s keep playing with reserve team, it’ll hurt their morale, hence PCB should do their best to get Australia’s top player’s to come for this tour.

Right now main focus is T20 world cup now we have only 2 matches left and then all teams will be available for their own schedules.

But, one thing is very interesting why we have 2 big news in same time, first Australian Cricket Board announces about tour of Pakistan and then England Cricket Board Chairman in Pakistan for talks with PCB officials about their future tour and having apologizing about their attitude which bring some misunderstanding between these two boards third one West indies Cricket Board announces their tour of Pakistan for 6 matches I have nothing about these all if someone can give it is surely good just winning 5 matches having impact like this is really strange for me.

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Lol read this funny news.

2 boards doing their negotiation on future bilateral tour, announcing the schedule etc but on the other hand Skipper (Tim Paine) giving interview and saying that some players might have some concern over this tour. Poster boy already started working on his list of excuses lol.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/paine-may-captain-pakistan-tour-but-admits-to-player-concerns-20211109-p597br.html

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Paine admitted some Australian players may be uncomfortable with touring Pakistan given the security situation in the region.

The schedule for what would be Australia’s first tour of Pakistan since 1998 was released on Monday night, but it is far from certain if the matches will be played.

No one really cares about Tim Paine. His performance as a captain is below par, and his performance as a batsmen is outright pathetic. Don't want to comment on his wicket keeping skills. He will be 37 at the time of the tour, and I think that the Australian board should seriously consider options to replace him. If Paine and other senior players pull out of the Pakistan tour, then it will give an idea opportunity for the board to include some of the promising youngsters. Quite a few are garnering attention during the ongoing Sheffield Shield season.

Ashes will decide his career and he has a habit of giving such statements. He was also very vocal about Poms when there was some confusion on upcoming Ashes series due to covid quarantine . Dude was also calling for Ban on Afghanistan team when Taliban took over the power, guess after that Afghan captain also retaliated on his statement.

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Quote from: GbitG on November 09, 2021, 03:17:05 PM

I already mention in above post it's just announcement and mind game from them because they are feeling some pressure against Pakistan, so they are trying to have some better positive way from Pakistan after this announcement. Most chances they will never arrive in Pakistan and if they have to visit then surely few players will be not feeling good, and they will withdraw because they have history of things like this not only in case of Pakistan they have done already against South Africa, but good thing is they never do these things against England and India because these two have big impact on their own business.

I guess PCB also understand this point that's why they are not very much excited about Australia tour of Pakistan in Mar 2021. Not sure why they both doing this before semi final. Pakistan in this WC have proved one thing very well that they are one of best teams in T20 despite no international cricket in county and no IPL participation.
All boards including Australia and England wants to have good relations with BCCI to secure IPL contracts

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 09, 2021, 09:42:51 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 09, 2021, 02:33:25 PM

Lol read this funny news.

2 boards doing their negotiation on future bilateral tour, announcing the schedule etc but on the other hand Skipper (Tim Paine) giving interview and saying that some players might have some concern over this tour. Poster boy already started working on his list of excuses lol.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/paine-may-captain-pakistan-tour-but-admits-to-player-concerns-20211109-p597br.html

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Paine admitted some Australian players may be uncomfortable with touring Pakistan given the security situation in the region.

The schedule for what would be Australia’s first tour of Pakistan since 1998 was released on Monday night, but it is far from certain if the matches will be played.

No one really cares about Tim Paine. His performance as a captain is below par, and his performance as a batsmen is outright pathetic. Don't want to comment on his wicket keeping skills. He will be 37 at the time of the tour, and I think that the Australian board should seriously consider options to replace him. If Paine and other senior players pull out of the Pakistan tour, then it will give an idea opportunity for the board to include some of the promising youngsters. Quite a few are garnering attention during the ongoing Sheffield Shield season.

@Sithara007 it’s a clear hint of things to come, and it’s logical to say that in the end Australia’s reserve player’s will go on the tour with the exception of one or two big player’s being part of the team.

Furthermore it’ll be interesting to see PCB stand on this, because if Pakistan player’s keep playing with reserve team, it’ll hurt their morale, hence PCB should do their best to get Australia’s top player’s to come for this tour.

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