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I think if we look on effects of COVID on cricket, it's the Ranji season which has suffered the most, due to BTC's greed for money, IPL has taken place no matter how many cases are coming daily but Ranji and other domestic leagues have not taken place due to the pandemic, whenever they start you see some cases erupting in some of the part of the country and the league is brought at halt, also it's not feasible to create bio bubbles for these players while they are travelling, I think BCCI should try and conduct these matches at neutral venues instead of Home/Away format, it might make a bit less income for Boards but atleast you will see the domestic season running back once again.
Only Ranji taking a hit.

Other tournaments are already finished because most of em are ODI and T-20 competition but Ranji is 4 days affair, this create more problem for them. Its not like they can relocate complete season to UAE similarly to IPL. Let's hope for the best.
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What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the  Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.
Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.
You can't compare these both countries in same way because both are living in completely different geopolitical area's and have different security and other measurements so if no team boycott New Zealand then it's not mean now all teams having good idea about Pakistan. We have many other serious threats around Pakistan specially after Taliban taking control into Afghanistan and Pakistan is already having history of many terror attacks and other serious concerns which are creating problems for many other countries around the globe.

About media this blame game was in and will be in for many years in future because both countries having many things similar like corruption and hungriness and lack of education with just very few peoples enjoying luxury life and most of the population suffering.
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Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.

Well.. let's keep politics out of this thread. If you claim that "neighbor country" is responsible for what happening in Balochistan, then they will argue back that Pakistan is also responsible for what is happening in Kashmir. The issue here is security issue within Pakistan and it is foolish to blame anyone else for that. Are you saying that security situation in Pakistan is not the responsibility of the Pakistani government?  And now coming to New Zealand, you can't even compare the situation there to that in Pakistan. NZ remains one of the safest countries in the world.
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Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season.

- Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021
- Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021
- Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021)
- Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022
- Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022

Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women)

https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1411273892312854529
Fixtures : https://resources.platform.bcci.tv/bcci/document/2021/07/03/a2b04788-6685-4ca9-971a-9242ce8c94d2/BCCI-Domestic-Media-Release-.pdf

Not a good time for Ranji Players, they have been seeing continuous delay for last 2 years but i think now its going to get a green light.

Ranji Trophy to be played in two phases: Jay Shah writes to state associations

"I write to you to apprise you all that the decks have been cleared and we are set to conduct the Ranji Trophy 2021-22 season shortly," wrote Shah in a letter to the state associations. "My team at the BCCI has worked on a structure where we will conduct the Ranji Trophy this season in two phases. The first phase will begin soon and will comprise the league matches while the knockout leg will be held in the month of June."



Aus W vs Eng W

This one off test turning out to be thriller. 2nd thriller Women test match in my recent memory.
I think if we look on effects of COVID on cricket, it's the Ranji season which has suffered the most, due to BTC's greed for money, IPL has taken place no matter how many cases are coming daily but Ranji and other domestic leagues have not taken place due to the pandemic, whenever they start you see some cases erupting in some of the part of the country and the league is brought at halt, also it's not feasible to create bio bubbles for these players while they are travelling, I think BCCI should try and conduct these matches at neutral venues instead of Home/Away format, it might make a bit less income for Boards but atleast you will see the domestic season running back once again.
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What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the  Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.

Well there are proofs that whats happening in Balochistan is funded by a neighbor country. Every country has its own internal issues, i remember how closely BAN team survived a killing attempt in NZ but nobody boycott going to NZ for playing cricket. There are matches in the past in Pakistan without any issue.
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Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season.

- Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021
- Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021
- Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021)
- Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022
- Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022

Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women)

https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1411273892312854529
Fixtures : https://resources.platform.bcci.tv/bcci/document/2021/07/03/a2b04788-6685-4ca9-971a-9242ce8c94d2/BCCI-Domestic-Media-Release-.pdf

Not a good time for Ranji Players, they have been seeing continuous delay for last 2 years but i think now its going to get a green light.

Ranji Trophy to be played in two phases: Jay Shah writes to state associations

"I write to you to apprise you all that the decks have been cleared and we are set to conduct the Ranji Trophy 2021-22 season shortly," wrote Shah in a letter to the state associations. "My team at the BCCI has worked on a structure where we will conduct the Ranji Trophy this season in two phases. The first phase will begin soon and will comprise the league matches while the knockout leg will be held in the month of June."



Aus W vs Eng W

This one off test turning out to be thriller. 2nd thriller Women test match in my recent memory.
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What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the  Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.
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Well, Pakistan media is going to do that because they need to raise their voice in such a matter that some current affairs are going to have a solvable chance very quickly. What I was saying is that it is not very rare for the Indian media to make some weird connections from the past occurrence with something that's going on in recent times. And we know how well Indian media can manipulate certain situations.

Don't only blame Indian media, the same is being done by the Pakistan media too. This is a common practice between both countries although it does not affect the Indian side. Yes, it affects the Pakistani side internationally and this is not entirely the fault of India if globally they are being heard. Such incidents should be put in order by the Pakistani government, which they have failed to do so.  
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I Understand about the bomb blast and I have sympathy for everyone who lost their dear ones that day and everyone who got injured. But the way I see it is the bomb blast that happened in a busy market. 15 August the Australian cricketers are not going to be left in a busy market. Agreed, no risk must be taken when it comes to the safety of the players but in this way we are just consistently neglecting a big region and their cricket fans. But under such situations, I don't think that Australia will be very keen to tour Pakistan.

What the hell?

Multiple people died in a suicide blast, and you are saying that Australia should take this incident lightly. Seriously? I am sure that the Australian players may not go for shopping sprees once they are inside Pakistan, but how can you guarantee that no similar incidents would take place when they travel from the hotel to the stadium, or even within the stadium? If by any chance they pull out of this tour, then I would say that it is perfectly justified. Unless security situation get better, Pakistan can't demand foreign teams touring their country.
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I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!
Check JSRAW's post, just above yours. The Lahore bomb blast resulted in multiple deaths and dozens of injuries. Now how can you say that there is no problem with Pakistan hosting foreign contingents? Now it is up to the Australian government and the players to decide whether they want to tour Pakistan or not. But ever since Taliban came to power in the neighboring Afghanistan, there is no doubt that the security situation in Pakistan has deteriorated. No amount of guarantee from the Pakistan government is going to change that reality.
I Understand about the bomb blast and I have sympathy for everyone who lost their dear ones that day and everyone who got injured. But the way I see it is the bomb blast that happened in a busy market. 15 August the Australian cricketers are not going to be left in a busy market. Agreed, no risk must be taken when it comes to the safety of the players but in this way we are just consistently neglecting a big region and their cricket fans. But under such situations, I don't think that Australia will be very keen to tour Pakistan.





What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the  Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.
Well, Pakistan media is going to do that because they need to raise their voice in such a matter that some current affairs are going to have a solvable chance very quickly. What I was saying is that it is not very rare for the Indian media to make some weird connections from the past occurrence with something that's going on in recent times. And we know how well Indian media can manipulate certain situations.
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I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

I mean if you want to just look at the Indian news channels and media and predict that some unbelievable terrorist attack is going to happen on the Australian team then my suggestion is just to stay in Australia and better stay in your house, and don't ever go out!!  Undecided

I do believe that the situation is not as bad as the media is trying to portray. I think Pakistan have made the right decision and should hold onto their decision.

Whenever there is some country trying to play cricket in Pakistan there is some blast or other such activity which is highlighted by Indian media only. Pakistan officials blame India for sabotaging NZ tour to Pakistan, PSL is underway in Pakistan and its going perfectly fine, there are players from England and Aus taking part in PSL with no problem.   

What do you mean highlighted by Indian media? Pakistani media was the one that highlighted the blast that recently happened in Balochistan. They were debating about it for two days and not only the mainstream media but the complete social media was questioning the  Pakistan army. There is nothing new both countries blame each other for everything.
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I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

I mean if you want to just look at the Indian news channels and media and predict that some unbelievable terrorist attack is going to happen on the Australian team then my suggestion is just to stay in Australia and better stay in your house, and don't ever go out!!  Undecided

I do believe that the situation is not as bad as the media is trying to portray. I think Pakistan have made the right decision and should hold onto their decision.

Whenever there is some country trying to play cricket in Pakistan there is some blast or other such activity which is highlighted by Indian media only. Pakistan officials blame India for sabotaging NZ tour to Pakistan, PSL is underway in Pakistan and its going perfectly fine, there are players from England and Aus taking part in PSL with no problem.   
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I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

Check JSRAW's post, just above yours. The Lahore bomb blast resulted in multiple deaths and dozens of injuries. Now how can you say that there is no problem with Pakistan hosting foreign contingents? Now it is up to the Australian government and the players to decide whether they want to tour Pakistan or not. But ever since Taliban came to power in the neighboring Afghanistan, there is no doubt that the security situation in Pakistan has deteriorated. No amount of guarantee from the Pakistan government is going to change that reality.
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you are admitting that the security situation is getting worse. Under such circumstances, how can you expect the Australian board to get the necessary permission from the government? The board may be in favor of touring Pakistan (for obvious reasons), but don't forget the fact that they can't do that unless they are permitted to do so by the federal government. No amount of security protection will be enough, if some major terrorist incident occur in Pakistan during the next few months. If so, then once again the series will be shifted to the UAE.
Right now security situation is not bad as few Indian channels are giving for their own sack things are in control and surely last decision is coming from Government of Australia and CA because they are currently main party in this all I read on few sites and media reports they are monitoring all things with their own way, and they are positive about this tour. Today second match of PSL 7 is already ended with most of the things are under control and franchise have many players from England those all are feeling OK and playing their natural game without any fear or pressure.

As Ramiz Raja is already announced they are not going to play in UAE so if Australia is going to deny this tour then surely this series is going to cancel and not going to play at the UAE or any other part of world.

I really absolutely do not understand what is the problem with touring Pakistan!!

I mean if you want to just look at the Indian news channels and media and predict that some unbelievable terrorist attack is going to happen on the Australian team then my suggestion is just to stay in Australia and better stay in your house, and don't ever go out!!  Undecided

I do believe that the situation is not as bad as the media is trying to portray. I think Pakistan have made the right decision and should hold onto their decision.
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Before making any general statement i suggest you to Click on the link provided by Juggy777 may be? Its a Pakistani source on recent Lahore bomb blast, not Indian newspaper. Also read Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid's comment or what Pak NSO saying about Taliban nowadays.

"An increase in attacks since the Taliban regained control of neighbouring Afghanistan in August has not helped to bolster confidence either.

Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid said terrorist incidents had increased by more than a third since the United States withdrew from Afghanistan, local media reported.

A bomb blast ripped through a crowded market in Lahore on Thursday, killing three people and wounding over 20, police said.

A newly formed separatist group based in Balochistan claimed responsibility for the attack in a text message sent to a Reuters reporter.
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you are admitting that the security situation is getting worse. Under such circumstances, how can you expect the Australian board to get the necessary permission from the government? The board may be in favor of touring Pakistan (for obvious reasons), but don't forget the fact that they can't do that unless they are permitted to do so by the federal government. No amount of security protection will be enough, if some major terrorist incident occur in Pakistan during the next few months. If so, then once again the series will be shifted to the UAE.
Right now security situation is not bad as few Indian channels are giving for their own sack things are in control and surely last decision is coming from Government of Australia and CA because they are currently main party in this all I read on few sites and media reports they are monitoring all things with their own way, and they are positive about this tour. Today second match of PSL 7 is already ended with most of the things are under control and franchise have many players from England those all are feeling OK and playing their natural game without any fear or pressure.

As Ramiz Raja is already announced they are not going to play in UAE so if Australia is going to deny this tour then surely this series is going to cancel and not going to play at the UAE or any other part of world.
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The situation again is slowly turning to worst in some cities of Pakistan but that doesn't mean visiting players will not get security. I remember whenever their is an international cricketing tournament organized in Pakistan they tend to close the location for that number of days and they do provide double layer of security. Still if such bombing news become frequent then Australia might think again.

Well, you are admitting that the security situation is getting worse. Under such circumstances, how can you expect the Australian board to get the necessary permission from the government? The board may be in favor of touring Pakistan (for obvious reasons), but don't forget the fact that they can't do that unless they are permitted to do so by the federal government. No amount of security protection will be enough, if some major terrorist incident occur in Pakistan during the next few months. If so, then once again the series will be shifted to the UAE.
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@JSRAW I just read the opposite report about Australian Player’s not being comfortable about touring Pakistan, and this shows that there’s a high possibility of them backing out when the time comes. Furthermore if they sent their B team, then it’ll definitely hurt Pakistan citizen’s who’re expecting Australia’s best player’s to come.
I heard about this bomb blast as well, which is not good sign but at the same time i'm optimistic about this tour. Last i read, CA want all tests to be schedule in single venue for security reason. I don't know if its feasible solution considering no stadium is able to host 3 back to back tests because of pitch conditions, unless they have 5-6 quality pitches on the ground.
It the location is under target, then it isn't good to tour. Pakistan people will be with much expectation to host the series in the home country after a long. However it is very important to take care of life. As said in a quote if the players are ready to play the the tournament won't get cancelled, But players won't have such a mind. Also this will not let the players have their natural game. So, it is good to have a common location out of the country if scenario isn't supportive.
The situation again is slowly turning to worst in some cities of Pakistan but that doesn't mean visiting players will not get security. I remember whenever their is an international cricketing tournament organized in Pakistan they tend to close the location for that number of days and they do provide double layer of security. Still if such bombing news become frequent then Australia might think again.
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It the location is under target, then it isn't good to tour. Pakistan people will be with much expectation to host the series in the home country after a long. However it is very important to take care of life. As said in a quote if the players are ready to play the the tournament won't get cancelled, But players won't have such a mind. Also this will not let the players have their natural game. So, it is good to have a common location out of the country if scenario isn't supportive.
Things are not worst as many believe because there is unrest in many countries as well, and they are still doing their usual business but here mostly Indian propaganda works badly for Pakistan they never want anything good for them, so they mostly cry too much. Keep one thing in mind if PSL 7 is going to be good and fair then surely Australian's will be happy, and they will tour without any fear right now this even is key for their tour and all cricketing future of Pakistan.

After apologize from ECB things doing better and now nearly 18 players from England are into PSL mean they are feeling good and have no fear, so they are enjoying cricket. I am personally feeling this all will be OK, and we will have some good cricket in this region in near future.
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@JSRAW I just read the opposite report about Australian Player’s not being comfortable about touring Pakistan, and this shows that there’s a high possibility of them backing out when the time comes. Furthermore if they sent their B team, then it’ll definitely hurt Pakistan citizen’s who’re expecting Australia’s best player’s to come.
I heard about this bomb blast as well, which is not good sign but at the same time i'm optimistic about this tour. Last i read, CA want all tests to be schedule in single venue for security reason. I don't know if its feasible solution considering no stadium is able to host 3 back to back tests because of pitch conditions, unless they have 5-6 quality pitches on the ground.
It the location is under target, then it isn't good to tour. Pakistan people will be with much expectation to host the series in the home country after a long. However it is very important to take care of life. As said in a quote if the players are ready to play the the tournament won't get cancelled, But players won't have such a mind. Also this will not let the players have their natural game. So, it is good to have a common location out of the country if scenario isn't supportive.
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I heard about this bomb blast as well, which is not good sign but at the same time i'm optimistic about this tour. Last i read, CA want all tests to be schedule in single venue for security reason. I don't know if its feasible solution considering no stadium is able to host 3 back to back tests because of pitch conditions, unless they have 5-6 quality pitches on the ground.
No doubt situation is not good and no one can give 100% what's going on in next few days as Pakistan has never been easy country for any things recently I was reading there are some riots in big city of Karachi and situation in Baluchistan is also very bad due to recent attacks on Armed Forces, so we have to wait until last day of this tour how they handle this all.

But, I read few blogs and columns where many Australians are very excited about this tour specially Pat Cummins and Labuschagne are very happy as they are going to face one of the toughest cricket players recently won ICC awards and have very good record at home. With selector George bailey is also having no issues and Australian Cricketers Association also want players go ahead with this tour.
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