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I never thought the last tour of Pakistan was 24 years ago, that is a really long time and i do think that Australia will move ahead with the tour.

Wow 24 years since the last tour of Pakistan Shocked

. I still remember the innings played by Mark Taylor who was struggling for a very long time and looked like he will be retiring soon and he went on to score 334 runs when Australia toured Pakistan back in 1998. I still remember vividly that innings of his as he was unbeaten in that innings and that innings extended his playing days till the next ashes.

That's great to see Australia touring Pakistan. 24years is a big number, which means the 70's and 80's generation once again getting an opportunity to enjoy watching cricket on their home ground. Pakistan is quite friendly, but an attack have made every country stay away. This tour will play a big role as a new beginning for other teams to make tour to Pakistan. Always the performance will be better from Pakistan playing on the home country.

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I never thought the last tour of Pakistan was 24 years ago, that is a really long time and i do think that Australia will move ahead with the tour.

Wow 24 years since the last tour of Pakistan Shocked

. I still remember the innings played by Mark Taylor who was struggling for a very long time and looked like he will be retiring soon and he went on to score 334 runs when Australia toured Pakistan back in 1998. I still remember vividly that innings of his as he was unbeaten in that innings and that innings extended his playing days till the next ashes.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 12, 2022, 04:59:09 AM

Aussies are relying on domestic cricket data of Pakistan to figure out how pitches are in Pakistan.
Australia last tour was 24 years ago and its still not 100% sure whether they are coming or not.

You cannot expect green wickets in Pakistan and hence they will be looking at pitches where spinners will be having an advantage,least in the last couple of days. No idea about the qualify of wickets in domestic cricket in Pakistan. I never thought the last tour of Pakistan was 24 years ago, that is a really long time and i do think that Australia will move ahead with the tour.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 12, 2022, 04:59:09 AM

Australia's selectors and players openly admit they have no idea what type of conditions will be thrown their way in Pakistan but they are confident they have picked a well-rounded squad to cover anything that comes up. espncricinfo.com . Aussies are relying on domestic cricket data of Pakistan to figure out how pitches are in Pakistan.
Australia last tour was 24 years ago and its still not 100% sure whether they are coming or not.

A good point that they have no idea about Pakistani conditions but still they have enough data and updates about Pakistan cricket and conditions because now all available on websites without any problem so just because of this they have good enough preparation about this tour coming with 3 spinners and their winning squad who ruined English team few weeks back at home.

There is no doubt they are coming after 24 years due to security issues related to Pakistan, but sometimes I feel really shock many Indian related sites and peoples still having mind there are doubt that they are coming or not it's their own mind but in Australian media there are not doubts about this from any player or any other member of this squad it's just crazy thing for me because Indians are still not happy with this tour as now Pakistan is improving and having better things for better future.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on February 11, 2022, 12:59:25 PM

ICC role these days is to eliminate cricket altogether from this world. There is huge pressure of Big 3 in controlling affairs of cricket worldwide and its best in interests of big 3 that big powers like China, USA or Russia never jump into cricket to challenge there supremacy.
Both Pakistan and Australia are in terrific form these days and we are expecting good cricket in this tour that is being scheduled after 24 year's.

That might be a reason why ICC does not want cricket to be a worldwide sport. Because then a lot of people are going to stand against all of their bullshit.
Ideating that Pakistan is going to surprise Australia with the quality of their cricket in this series. I am just happy that we are going to see this tour happen

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2022, 10:05:32 PM

Just hope that the series will go ahead as planned and there will be no last minute pull out similar to what happened with New Zealand. Both the Australian and Pakistani pacers are in terrific form and it is essentially going to be a battle between these two groups. No one is actually talking about the batsmen (Babar Azam, Steve Smith, Marnus Labuschagne.etc). For Pakistan, it will be a dilemma to prepare the pitches. If they make them too pace friendly, then Cummins, Starc and Boland will destroy them.

Pakistan officials do not make it too much batting friendly and also not too much bowling friendly. I think a good pitch is going to Make the matches more interesting and the results are going to be really close in my opinion regardless of the situation of the pitch.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on February 12, 2022, 04:05:49 AM

Historically Pakistani pitches mostly support both batsmen and bowlers because they know how to handle these teams at home just because of this mostly they badly struggle in Australia and in New Zealand because they never try to have pacer friendly wickets which give them good practice for these countries and with current bowling squad Australia is bringing most chances they will never try to have pitches for bowlers because this is not going to help Pakistan.
Even currently Pakistan is having very good and balanced squad with good batting line and bowlers are also good, most chances we will have all three test matches with result which surely will create more fans and people's interest in this historic series.

Yeah, that's true and I think that Pakistan is going to be really determined to win these matches because after a long time international cricket is happening in Pakistan so they wouldn't like to lose in their home ground after this long period. Empties matches are surely going to be interesting and also will be able to generate a good amount of revenue.

Quote from: blatchcorn on February 12, 2022, 04:59:09 AM

Australia's selectors and players openly admit they have no idea what type of conditions will be thrown their way in Pakistan but they are confident they have picked a well-rounded squad to cover anything that comes up. espncricinfo.com . Aussies are relying on domestic cricket data of Pakistan to figure out how pitches are in Pakistan.
Australia last tour was 24 years ago and its still not 100% sure whether they are coming or not.

I think that the Aussies are going to take good enough precautions and they have also made a good squad for the tour. But if I say that they got nothing to worry about then I would be lying. Pakistan is it really good team in my opinion and obviously, the team has changed a lot especially in the last couple of years. Australia can prepare as much as they want right now but I'm sure they are going to be surprised.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on February 12, 2022, 04:05:49 AM

Historically Pakistani pitches mostly support both batsmen and bowlers because they know how to handle these teams at home just because of this mostly they badly struggle in Australia and in New Zealand because they never try to have pacer friendly wickets which give them good practice for these countries and with current bowling squad Australia is bringing most chances they will never try to have pitches for bowlers because this is not going to help Pakistan.

Even currently Pakistan is having very good and balanced squad with good batting line and bowlers are also good, most chances we will have all three test matches with result which surely will create more fans and people's interest in this historic series.

Australia's selectors and players openly admit they have no idea what type of conditions will be thrown their way in Pakistan but they are confident they have picked a well-rounded squad to cover anything that comes up. espncricinfo.com . Aussies are relying on domestic cricket data of Pakistan to figure out how pitches are in Pakistan.
Australia last tour was 24 years ago and its still not 100% sure whether they are coming or not.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 11, 2022, 10:35:50 PM

I don't think Pakistani pitches are that much supportive to pacers as Australians pitches are. Australia's have the ability to adopt to the conditions wherever they go and this thing must be kept in mind by Pakistani team.
Australia players will miss out IPL start due to this series as CA has made a policy that players will not be allowed to play league when there is international duty.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/key-australia-players-set-to-miss-first-half-of-ipl-101644416585586-amp.html

Historically Pakistani pitches mostly support both batsmen and bowlers because they know how to handle these teams at home just because of this mostly they badly struggle in Australia and in New Zealand because they never try to have pacer friendly wickets which give them good practice for these countries and with current bowling squad Australia is bringing most chances they will never try to have pitches for bowlers because this is not going to help Pakistan.

Even currently Pakistan is having very good and balanced squad with good batting line and bowlers are also good, most chances we will have all three test matches with result which surely will create more fans and people's interest in this historic series.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 11, 2022, 10:05:32 PM

Just hope that the series will go ahead as planned and there will be no last minute pull out similar to what happened with New Zealand. Both the Australian and Pakistani pacers are in terrific form and it is essentially going to be a battle between these two groups. No one is actually talking about the batsmen (Babar Azam, Steve Smith, Marnus Labuschagne.etc). For Pakistan, it will be a dilemma to prepare the pitches. If they make them too pace friendly, then Cummins, Starc and Boland will destroy them.

I don't think Pakistani pitches are that much supportive to pacers as Australians pitches are. Australia's have the ability to adopt to the conditions wherever they go and this thing must be kept in mind by Pakistani team.
Australia players will miss out IPL start due to this series as CA has made a policy that players will not be allowed to play league when there is international duty.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/key-australia-players-set-to-miss-first-half-of-ipl-101644416585586-amp.html

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on February 11, 2022, 12:59:25 PM

ICC role these days is to eliminate cricket altogether from this world. There is huge pressure of Big 3 in controlling affairs of cricket worldwide and its best in interests of big 3 that big powers like China, USA or Russia never jump into cricket to challenge there supremacy.
Both Pakistan and Australia are in terrific form these days and we are expecting good cricket in this tour that is being scheduled after 24 year's.

Just hope that the series will go ahead as planned and there will be no last minute pull out similar to what happened with New Zealand. Both the Australian and Pakistani pacers are in terrific form and it is essentially going to be a battle between these two groups. No one is actually talking about the batsmen (Babar Azam, Steve Smith, Marnus Labuschagne.etc). For Pakistan, it will be a dilemma to prepare the pitches. If they make them too pace friendly, then Cummins, Starc and Boland will destroy them.

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Quote from: BALIK on February 11, 2022, 09:58:12 AM

To be honest if ICC thinks that cricket should not be a global game and if they think this only because of their benefit, I really think they have big problems and the ICC personnel should be replaced. It is as simple as that and also the best solution.

In the Australia versus Pakistan series I really want Pakistan to do very well because obviously they are going to have advantages of home condition and they will also need to show others that they are absolute beasts in their home ground. And it will be really interesting to see Shaheen Afridi's pace bowling.

ICC role these days is to eliminate cricket altogether from this world. There is huge pressure of Big 3 in controlling affairs of cricket worldwide and its best in interests of big 3 that big powers like China, USA or Russia never jump into cricket to challenge there supremacy.
Both Pakistan and Australia are in terrific form these days and we are expecting good cricket in this tour that is being scheduled after 24 year's.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 10, 2022, 09:12:59 PM

The Australian squad to Pakistan looks strong. In particular I would be interested in two of the players - Scott Boland and Marnus Labuschagne. Boland was nearly unplayable during the Ashes. And Labuschagne is having a great opportunity to establish himself as the successor to Steve Smith.

Quote from: BALIK on February 10, 2022, 01:57:06 PM

Indeed it is going to be good for the cricket community, and I think ICC should do something to make popular ICC cricket more than it is right now. Because ICC honestly needs more cricket-playing nations who are willing to play cricket competitively.

I know it is going to be really hard under the circumstances of recent times but it has to be done for the sake of cricket. I think that the main target of ICC should be to somehow make more countries play the cricket world cup.

We have gone through this discussion manytimes before and we just need to admit the fact that the ICC is simply not interested in making cricket a global game. They are happy with cricket being confined to South Asian countries and to the diaspora from these nations. The businessmen who control the ICC doesn't think that it is beneficial for them to spread the game.

To be honest if ICC thinks that cricket should not be a global game and if they think this only because of their benefit, I really think they have big problems and the ICC personnel should be replaced. It is as simple as that and also the best solution.

In the Australia versus Pakistan series I really want Pakistan to do very well because obviously they are going to have advantages of home condition and they will also need to show others that they are absolute beasts in their home ground. And it will be really interesting to see Shaheen Afridi's pace bowling.

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In my opinion, Australia should not have any problems visiting Pakistan for a tour at the moment because the security looks quite good right now. I'm so nothing has happened during the PSL too. If Australia backs out now I think it will be just a case of overthinking or probably some players being scared. I don't think it should be any problem to tour Pakistan and the Pakistan government should also provide the right security too.

PSL is going without any issue and many foreigners are also enjoying specially from England which is very good sign for all others and recently there were few rumours about two players that these both have some concerns about this tour, and they can pull out of this tour but after having meeting with CA authorities and good communications from Australian Cricketers Association about this tour now these both are also going for this tour atmosphere is good as few Australian legendary players are also praising about this tour because now they are feeling things are much better security is also very improved, so they all can go ahead without any issue.

Good thing Ramiz Raja PCB current Chairman and Prime Minister Imran Khan both have very good ties with few Aussies which are helping for the success of this tour.

In my opinion the friendship is going to help a lot with the future of this series. And these are exactly the things I was talking about because I really don't think there should be any problem at least now for Australia or any Australian players to tour Pakistan. But one thing I have to say is that Pakistan government has to take necessary and certain steps to make sure that no problem or no security breach can happen in any way.
Yes, at least Prime Minister Imran Khan knows well how to handle these situations cause he has much knowledge about cricket & tourism.

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Quote from: lixer on February 10, 2022, 03:39:15 PM

PSL is going without any issue and many foreigners are also enjoying specially from England which is very good sign for all others and recently there were few rumours about two players that these both have some concerns about this tour, and they can pull out of this tour but after having meeting with CA authorities and good communications from Australian Cricketers Association about this tour now these both are also going for this tour atmosphere is good as few Australian legendary players are also praising about this tour because now they are feeling things are much better security is also very improved, so they all can go ahead without any issue.

Good thing Ramiz Raja PCB current Chairman and Prime Minister Imran Khan both have very good ties with few Aussies which are helping for the success of this tour.

'One or two' Australia players may opt out of Pakistan tour - ACA chief (source). Pat Cummins also confirmed that he will fully support anyone who not wanna travel to Pakistan.
First test is scheduled to begin on 4th March so Australia team will leave for Pakistan towards the end of February. Till then we will continue to hear such speculations.
Lastly, in PSL players from all test playing countries are participating and so far it's all going smoothly.

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The Australian squad to Pakistan looks strong. In particular I would be interested in two of the players - Scott Boland and Marnus Labuschagne. Boland was nearly unplayable during the Ashes. And Labuschagne is having a great opportunity to establish himself as the successor to Steve Smith.

Quote from: BALIK on February 10, 2022, 01:57:06 PM

Indeed it is going to be good for the cricket community, and I think ICC should do something to make popular ICC cricket more than it is right now. Because ICC honestly needs more cricket-playing nations who are willing to play cricket competitively.

I know it is going to be really hard under the circumstances of recent times but it has to be done for the sake of cricket. I think that the main target of ICC should be to somehow make more countries play the cricket world cup.

We have gone through this discussion manytimes before and we just need to admit the fact that the ICC is simply not interested in making cricket a global game. They are happy with cricket being confined to South Asian countries and to the diaspora from these nations. The businessmen who control the ICC doesn't think that it is beneficial for them to spread the game.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on February 10, 2022, 12:25:55 PM

In my opinion, Australia should not have any problems visiting Pakistan for a tour at the moment because the security looks quite good right now. I'm so nothing has happened during the PSL too. If Australia backs out now I think it will be just a case of overthinking or probably some players being scared. I don't think it should be any problem to tour Pakistan and the Pakistan government should also provide the right security too.

PSL is going without any issue and many foreigners are also enjoying specially from England which is very good sign for all others and recently there were few rumours about two players that these both have some concerns about this tour, and they can pull out of this tour but after having meeting with CA authorities and good communications from Australian Cricketers Association about this tour now these both are also going for this tour atmosphere is good as few Australian legendary players are also praising about this tour because now they are feeling things are much better security is also very improved, so they all can go ahead without any issue.

Good thing Ramiz Raja PCB current Chairman and Prime Minister Imran Khan both have very good ties with few Aussies which are helping for the success of this tour.

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There are few Aussies players in PSL 2022 like james faulkner. If CA has security issues then they must not have issued NOC to these players for playing in Pakistan. Aus are in great form, they are best in test series. Pakistan need to really work work hard to beat Aussies in Pakistan since there first visit after 223 years.

Attack on Sri Lanka is really miss managed by government on the time, but after this security is increased and some stick operation done against peoples involved in this and after this attack. But in recent time there is nothing wrong just propaganda from few countries now which is falling badly and world watching what changes happening and how things are going into positive way.

England and New Zealand cancellations were also worst from these both respective and after this they both have done better replies, so now this all is past we have to watch into future which is bright for all because currently after few days we are going to have 8 teams starting test matches and cricket could be on his full swing which is very good for cricket community.

Indeed it is going to be good for the cricket community, and I think ICC should do something to make popular ICC cricket more than it is right now. Because ICC honestly needs more cricket-playing nations who are willing to play cricket competitively.

I know it is going to be really hard under the circumstances of recent times but it has to be done for the sake of cricket. I think that the main target of ICC should be to somehow make more countries play the cricket world cup.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on February 10, 2022, 12:25:55 PM

In my opinion, Australia should not have any problems visiting Pakistan for a tour at the moment because the security looks quite good right now. I'm so nothing has happened during the PSL too. If Australia backs out now I think it will be just a case of overthinking or probably some players being scared. I don't think it should be any problem to tour Pakistan and the Pakistan government should also provide the right security too.

Definitely it's a make or break situation for Pakistan. If they successfully conduct this tour then nothing can stop international cricket from coming to Pakistan and vice versa. PCB is hopeful that CA will visit Pakistan that's why they have announced there 16 men test squad for this series.

Test squad: Babar Azam (c), Mohammad Rizwan (vc), Abdullah Shafique, Azhar Ali, Faheem Ashraf, Fawad Alam, Haris Rauf, Hasan Ali, Imam-ul-Haq, Mohammad Nawaz, Nauman Ali, Sajid Khan, Saud Shakeel, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shan Masood, Zahid Mahmood,

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 09, 2022, 09:49:59 PM

Quote from: galambo on February 09, 2022, 01:56:27 PM

There are few Aussies players in PSL 2022 like james faulkner. If CA has security issues then they must not have issued NOC to these players for playing in Pakistan. Aus are in great form, they are best in test series. Pakistan need to really work work hard to beat Aussies in Pakistan since there first visit after 223 years.

Faulkner last played for Australia in tests 9 years ago. Only when the tour is finalized, we will get an idea about whether the players are ready to visit Pakistan or not. From what I can hear, none of them have voiced their opinion so far. The PSL has so far went without any issues and it proved to be a shot in the arm for the PCB. Dozens of foreign players are taking part in that tournament and as far as I know there was not a single security related issue. The Australian board now has no excuses, but some of the players can still pull out of the tour.

In my opinion, Australia should not have any problems visiting Pakistan for a tour at the moment because the security looks quite good right now. I'm so nothing has happened during the PSL too. If Australia backs out now I think it will be just a case of overthinking or probably some players being scared. I don't think it should be any problem to tour Pakistan and the Pakistan government should also provide the right security too.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 09, 2022, 09:49:59 PM

Faulkner last played for Australia in tests 9 years ago. Only when the tour is finalized, we will get an idea about whether the players are ready to visit Pakistan or not. From what I can hear, none of them have voiced their opinion so far. The PSL has so far went without any issues and it proved to be a shot in the arm for the PCB. Dozens of foreign players are taking part in that tournament and as far as I know there was not a single security related issue. The Australian board now has no excuses, but some of the players can still pull out of the tour.

PCB must be very happy with this CA press release, Australia's historic tour of Pakistan confirmed.

Revised Pakistan tour dates:

March 4-8: 1st Test, Rawalpindi

March 12-16: 2nd Test, Karachi

March 21-25: 3rd Test, Lahore

March 29: 1st ODI, Rawalpindi

March 31: 2nd ODI, Rawalpindi

April 2: 3rd ODI, Rawalpindi

April 5: T20I, Rawalpindi

I do agree with you on this fact that we can't say anything about this tour unless we see first and last ball of this series. CNZ abandon there tour to Pakistan just minutes before first ball of the series.

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