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Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 30, 2021, 03:48:38 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 29, 2021, 09:46:00 AM

Pakistan start the first test match against Zimbabwe in good form and bowled out the Zimbabwe team in only 176 runs. We know that Pakistani bowlers are superior than Zimbabwe bowlers but the big question was how well they can bat. Pakistan scored 103 runs till now and did not lose any wicket till now. This is a good beginning for them and they should score big score now.

Pakistan are 132/1 and are looking to dominate the match. I think they should score something close to 500 os that they don't need to bat last in this test match. I am not sure if the pitch will remain the same in all the 5 days of the match.

@UmerIdrees this is an one sided match and I’m not at all surprised by Zimbabwe player’s performance because no one really expected them to play well. Also I feel that Pakistan will target at least 600 runs, and then declare and put more pressure on Zimbabwe. It’s also pertinent to note that they have currently scored 162 runs, hence I feel that 600 runs is achievable.

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https://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scores/35897/zim-vs-pak-1st-test-pakistan-tour-of-zimbabwe-2021

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 29, 2021, 09:46:00 AM

Pakistan start the first test match against Zimbabwe in good form and bowled out the Zimbabwe team in only 176 runs. We know that Pakistani bowlers are superior than Zimbabwe bowlers but the big question was how well they can bat. Pakistan scored 103 runs till now and did not lose any wicket till now. This is a good beginning for them and they should score big score now.

Pakistan are 132/1 and are looking to dominate the match. I think they should score something close to 500 os that they don't need to bat last in this test match. I am not sure if the pitch will remain the same in all the 5 days of the match.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 29, 2021, 10:10:16 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 28, 2021, 12:35:04 PM

So basically ICC is just jerking around and pretending to be care about Test Cricket. Why would the associate members want to get in the 5 day cricket when ICC is not supporting them fianancially.

The real reason why ICC is not supporting financially may be due to the fact that test format itself is not generating enough revenue. Also, the revenues for ICC are not increasing at a rate which they were hoping for. The big 3 are still against adding another ICC event to the calendar, and the COVID 19 situation led to the postponement or cancellation of some of the ICC events. Also, it looks like the franchise T20 leagues are having a negative impact on international cricket, at least as far as revenue generation is concerned.

International schedule is already packed with bilateral and franchise cricket so ICC tournament every year was a bad idea, no wonder PIG 3 opposed it, i'm not in favor of WC every year. Champions Trophy was good but they foolishly scrapped it completely.

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Quote from: vella85 on April 29, 2021, 05:32:20 PM

Its looking like the same in the SL and Bangladesh test series as SL are 291/1 so its looking like another batting pitch and that its not doing much for the bowlers. Its nice to see a team score close to 300 runs in a day but if there is nothing there for the bowlers then we could see it end in a draw.

Nothing much to say in the Pakistan and Zimbabwe match as we all know how poor Zimbabwe are and once again they showed by being bowled out for 176 runs and Pakistan are already closing in on that total with no wickets lost.

I really don't understand the point in playing such test matches. During the first test also, they could hardly get first innings of both the teams completed in 5 days. The pitch doesn't offer any support to the bowlers and even if they extend the duration to 10 days instead of 5 days, it will still end up as a draw. These matches are a reason why test format is dying. You waste 5 days consecutively to watch them playing and the match still end with no result.

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Quote from: vella85 on April 29, 2021, 05:32:20 PM

Its looking like the same in the SL and Bangladesh test series as SL are 291/1 so its looking like another batting pitch and that its not doing much for the bowlers. Its nice to see a team score close to 300 runs in a day but if there is nothing there for the bowlers then we could see it end in a draw.

Usually the pitches in Sri Lanka would help the spinners and after the third or fourth day it would be impossible for the batsman to defend but the last match was a draw as players were able to score runs even in the last two days. Either the players have improved or the pitches are flat Grin

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Quote from: vella85 on April 29, 2021, 05:32:20 PM

Nothing much to say in the Pakistan and Zimbabwe match as we all know how poor Zimbabwe are and once again they showed by being bowled out for 176 runs and Pakistan are already closing in on that total with no wickets lost.

Pakistan dominating the match, Zimbabwe somehow was able to defeat Pakistan in a T20 match but to play Test match against them and expect a good performance was too much, i was not expecting much from the series but still Pakistan should have asked them to make a T20 series with 5 or 6 matches rather than play Test match with them.

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Its looking like the same in the SL and Bangladesh test series as SL are 291/1 so its looking like another batting pitch and that its not doing much for the bowlers. Its nice to see a team score close to 300 runs in a day but if there is nothing there for the bowlers then we could see it end in a draw.

Nothing much to say in the Pakistan and Zimbabwe match as we all know how poor Zimbabwe are and once again they showed by being bowled out for 176 runs and Pakistan are already closing in on that total with no wickets lost.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 29, 2021, 10:10:16 AM

Also, it looks like the franchise T20 leagues are having a negative impact on international cricket, at least as far as revenue generation is concerned.

The T20 leagues are inevitable and it is helping cricket in a much broader spectrum introducing the game globally even to places where cricket is not major sport and these leagues have created interest in countries the ICC was unable to penetrate. Not sure about the profit percentage share any cricket board should give for conducting these tournaments and no board could run a franchise T20 league if the ICC rejects them because then no players cannot play them either which will reduce the valuation of that league as well.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 28, 2021, 12:35:04 PM

So basically ICC is just jerking around and pretending to be care about Test Cricket. Why would the associate members want to get in the 5 day cricket when ICC is not supporting them fianancially.

The real reason why ICC is not supporting financially may be due to the fact that test format itself is not generating enough revenue. Also, the revenues for ICC are not increasing at a rate which they were hoping for. The big 3 are still against adding another ICC event to the calendar, and the COVID 19 situation led to the postponement or cancellation of some of the ICC events. Also, it looks like the franchise T20 leagues are having a negative impact on international cricket, at least as far as revenue generation is concerned.

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Pakistan start the first test match against Zimbabwe in good form and bowled out the Zimbabwe team in only 176 runs. We know that Pakistani bowlers are superior than Zimbabwe bowlers but the big question was how well they can bat. Pakistan scored 103 runs till now and did not lose any wicket till now. This is a good beginning for them and they should score big score now.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 28, 2021, 12:27:06 PM

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I don't get it..

What are they trying to do? Afg, Ire and Zim already avoid playing much test cricket due to financial problems. How are they going to include Associate members in this scheme?

Intercontinental Cup was there till 2017, when the ICC stopped it due to cash crunch. It is just the same tournament with a different name. I don't know much about funding, but the ICC now want associate nations to bear the cost of this tournament. That would simply mean that cash-rich boards such as the UAE, Hong Kong and Oman will readily take part, while the boards which are facing financial issues (such as Kenya, Papua New Guinea, Nepal.etc) would skip their participation.

So basically ICC is just jerking around and pretending to be care about Test Cricket. Why would the associate members want to get in the 5 day cricket when ICC is not supporting them fianancially.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 28, 2021, 12:21:32 PM

I don't get it..

What are they trying to do? Afg, Ire and Zim already avoid playing much test cricket due to financial problems. How are they going to include Associate members in this scheme?

Intercontinental Cup was there till 2017, when the ICC stopped it due to cash crunch. It is just the same tournament with a different name. I don't know much about funding, but the ICC now want associate nations to bear the cost of this tournament. That would simply mean that cash-rich boards such as the UAE, Hong Kong and Oman will readily take part, while the boards which are facing financial issues (such as Kenya, Papua New Guinea, Nepal.etc) would skip their participation.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 25, 2021, 12:03:57 PM

ICC seems to be considering a "second division" of test cricket.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/icc-mulls-regular-test-matches-for-non-wtc-full-members-and-associates-in-next-ftp-cycle-1260609

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An enhanced structure for more multi-day cricket for Full Members outside the World Test Championship (WTC) and Associates could be a possibility in the next cricket calendar. Though the discussions, which took place last week at the ICC's scheduling meeting, are at a very formative stage, they took in the possibility of revisiting a past effort to form a second division for Test cricket. According to multiple sources, such a format could be a blended structure combining Afghanistan, Ireland and Zimbabwe - who play Tests but are not part of the WTC - and Associates with ODI status including Netherlands, Scotland and potentially others.

Without any promotion-relegation system, this second division is going to be useless. Essentially this is going to be a continuation of the Intercontinental Cup (which was abandoned in 2017 due to pressure from the big 3). I would rather suggest 4 divisions in test cricket, each with 4 teams each. Right now, it makes no sense for India or Australia to play a test match against teams such as Sri Lanka or Bangladesh.

I don't get it..

What are they trying to do? Afg, Ire and Zim already avoid playing much test cricket due to financial problems. How are they going to include Associate members in this scheme?

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Only a couple of months remain for the final of the World Test Championship, which will be played at Southampton between India and New Zealand (unless there is any postponement due to COVID 19 situation). Initially Lord's was being scheduled as the venue, but then Southampton was confirmed as it was easier to setup a bio-secure bubble there. This is the first WTC final, and it's going to be exciting. The match is scheduled for 18th June 2021.

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ICC seems to be considering a "second division" of test cricket.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/icc-mulls-regular-test-matches-for-non-wtc-full-members-and-associates-in-next-ftp-cycle-1260609

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An enhanced structure for more multi-day cricket for Full Members outside the World Test Championship (WTC) and Associates could be a possibility in the next cricket calendar. Though the discussions, which took place last week at the ICC's scheduling meeting, are at a very formative stage, they took in the possibility of revisiting a past effort to form a second division for Test cricket. According to multiple sources, such a format could be a blended structure combining Afghanistan, Ireland and Zimbabwe - who play Tests but are not part of the WTC - and Associates with ODI status including Netherlands, Scotland and potentially others.

Without any promotion-relegation system, this second division is going to be useless. Essentially this is going to be a continuation of the Intercontinental Cup (which was abandoned in 2017 due to pressure from the big 3). I would rather suggest 4 divisions in test cricket, each with 4 teams each. Right now, it makes no sense for India or Australia to play a test match against teams such as Sri Lanka or Bangladesh.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 25, 2021, 07:37:26 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 25, 2021, 01:53:25 AM

5th day and virtually no support for any bowlers, there is nothing on the pitch for the bowler and every bowler looking helpless against the batters at Pallekele, so can't blame the Bangladesi or Sri lankan bowlers for not turning up in this match. Next test match is also schedule here. Undecided

I don't understand why they prepare such tracks. Two innings completed in 5 days. A total of 450 overs were bowled and the total number of wickets that fell stands at 17. Matches such as this one are partially responsible for the death of test cricket. Imagine someone spending 5 days to watch this match, only to witness a draw in the end. The only positive from this match was a few individual records added for some of the batsmen.

In modern cricket where 99% test match producing results, this particular game was very boring and if 2nd game finish in a similar fashion then curators going to get a lot of criticism or may be some action in sense of negative points on the pitch.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 25, 2021, 01:53:25 AM

5th day and virtually no support for any bowlers, there is nothing on the pitch for the bowler and every bowler looking helpless against the batters at Pallekele, so can't blame the Bangladesi or Sri lankan bowlers for not turning up in this match. Next test match is also schedule here. Undecided

I don't understand why they prepare such tracks. Two innings completed in 5 days. A total of 450 overs were bowled and the total number of wickets that fell stands at 17. Matches such as this one are partially responsible for the death of test cricket. Imagine someone spending 5 days to watch this match, only to witness a draw in the end. The only positive from this match was a few individual records added for some of the batsmen.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 24, 2021, 11:05:35 PM

~ No Bangladeshi bowler can create any pressure on them. Yet how do you say Bangladesh bowlers are good enough? Not getting wickets and giving a lot of runs in Test format can not be a sign of a good bowler.

Seems like you don't have the knowledge about the pitch condition of cricket matches. No matter how good a bowler is, if the pitch isn't balanced or favourable for bowler then it will be tough to take wickets. During this test match the pitch was fully favourable for batsman. As a result, both of the team was unable to take quick wickets. Moreover, Mehidy Hasan and Taijul Islam have good bowling figure in test matches. And I will again say that they are good enough.

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5th day and virtually no support for any bowlers, there is nothing on the pitch for the bowler and every bowler looking helpless against the batters at Pallekele, so can't blame the Bangladesi or Sri lankan bowlers for not turning up in this match. Next test match is also schedule here. Undecided

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on April 24, 2021, 07:01:08 AM

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Bangladesh team does not have an experienced captain, they do not have a very experienced bowler. They did not declare the innings in time. Had there been an experienced captain, they would not have made such a wrong decision. Now they are paying for the mistake. Sri Lanka has scored 314 runs and lost just 3 wickets. It is easy to guess that the match will be a draw.

Bangladeshi bowlers are good enough to take the wickets but the pitch isn't favourable to bowlers. Day 4 has ended now. Sri Lanka hasn't lost any wickets today. Both batsman played very well. Bowler had nothing to do in this kind of pitch but they could create pressure by giving a lot of dot balls. Bangladeshi bowler wasn't able to create any pressure there. Now we can expect nothing than a draw of this test match.

Sri Lankan batsmen Dhananjaya De Silva and Dimuth Karunaratne are batting very comfortably. They scored 154 and 234 runs respectively. No Bangladeshi bowler can create any pressure on them. Yet how do you say Bangladesh bowlers are good enough? Not getting wickets and giving a lot of runs in Test format can not be a sign of a good bowler.

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Looks as if Sri Lanka will easily take the lead. They have 7 wickets in hand and are trailing by just 29 runs. The Bangladesh bowlers failed without any exception, perhaps due to the absence of Shakib al Hasan and Mustafizur Rahman. Dimuth Karunaratne got his double century, which is a significant career milestone for him in this otherwise boring test match. Today is the last day of the match, and I am not expecting any miracles.

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