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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 03, 2021, 08:49:35 AM

It will be wrong to say that women's events doesn't bring the revenue. The WBBL has brought in good amount of profits for Cricket Australia, and the women's Hundred has done the same for ECB. If the BCCI comes up with WIPL in the future, then I am 100% sure that they will get good profits as well. The main issue in my opinion is that the cricket boards are dominated by men in top positions. Female members are there just to make up the numbers and don't hold any real power. So they can afford to ignore women's cricket.

Can you come up with stats that how much profitable WBBL is for CA and how much ECB earned from The Hundred Women's Competition 2021? I would love to see the stats.
Woman's are doing very good when it comes to Tennis, Athletics (swimming, racing, table tennis), Basketball etc. But unfortunatly we were not able to see too much spark from woman's in cricket. Reasons may vary but in my opinion there are not much players not audience that are interested Woman's cricket.

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Quote from: Emitdama on October 03, 2021, 09:06:59 AM

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Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better ~
I am also talking in same way that we have sports organizations controlled by men, and they are not giving commitments as they have to if WIPL came into India then surely big revenue some better quality better finances going to help women, and they will feel more comfortably and able to give much better result than expected from them.

The problem is that you are not able to attract the audience and if they can attract an audience then they will get the necessary advertisement and endorsement, i do watch the matches but they are usually conducted in mostly empty stadiums.

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But, main issue is who will do this and bring changes because men controlled organizations never allowed to give power to women in our countries which is really setback just few days back we have first Female President of MCC after Sangakara is big change from England but here some things needed but not happening.

You cannot blame everything on men controlled organizations. It looks like you are a feminist who argue with everything without much substance.

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Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better strategy for this it's not going to help anyone. Recently we have some good voices about women cricket from Australia, but for their own women team they are not doing any enough things because these are not profitable as men.

If we check overall in sports we have very few teams events for women around the world because financially these events are not profitable so no country taking any serious intention for these. USA is one of the biggest country and have much better technology and things, but they are also not doing for this as they need to do for women.

It will be wrong to say that women's events doesn't bring the revenue. The WBBL has brought in good amount of profits for Cricket Australia, and the women's Hundred has done the same for ECB. If the BCCI comes up with WIPL in the future, then I am 100% sure that they will get good profits as well. The main issue in my opinion is that the cricket boards are dominated by men in top positions. Female members are there just to make up the numbers and don't hold any real power. So they can afford to ignore women's cricket.

I am also talking in same way that we have sports organizations controlled by men, and they are not giving commitments as they have to if WIPL came into India then surely big revenue some better quality better finances going to help women, and they will feel more comfortably and able to give much better result than expected from them.

But, main issue is who will do this and bring changes because men controlled organizations never allowed to give power to women in our countries which is really setback just few days back we have first Female President of MCC after Sangakara is big change from England but here some things needed but not happening.

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Quote from: Emitdama on October 03, 2021, 08:36:44 AM

Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better strategy for this it's not going to help anyone. Recently we have some good voices about women cricket from Australia, but for their own women team they are not doing any enough things because these are not profitable as men.

If we check overall in sports we have very few teams events for women around the world because financially these events are not profitable so no country taking any serious intention for these. USA is one of the biggest country and have much better technology and things, but they are also not doing for this as they need to do for women.

It will be wrong to say that women's events doesn't bring the revenue. The WBBL has brought in good amount of profits for Cricket Australia, and the women's Hundred has done the same for ECB. If the BCCI comes up with WIPL in the future, then I am 100% sure that they will get good profits as well. The main issue in my opinion is that the cricket boards are dominated by men in top positions. Female members are there just to make up the numbers and don't hold any real power. So they can afford to ignore women's cricket.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 02, 2021, 02:24:30 PM

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better strategy for this it's not going to help anyone. Recently we have some good voices about women cricket from Australia, but for their own women team they are not doing any enough things because these are not profitable as men.

If we check overall in sports we have very few teams events for women around the world because financially these events are not profitable so no country taking any serious intention for these. USA is one of the biggest country and have much better technology and things, but they are also not doing for this as they need to do for women.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 03, 2021, 07:30:33 AM

Interesting one.

I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

Only a few grounds (such as Mohali in Punjab and Dharamshala in Himachal) in India are supportive of pace bowling. So the first option for the women's cricketers in domestic teams is spin bowling. The coaches are also selected from ex-players and they follow the same line of thinking. Once the IPL is started (I don't know when), the younger players will get to watch quality pace bowlers and they will also try to replicate them. Until then pace bowling will remain as the weak link of Indian women's squad.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 03, 2021, 07:30:33 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 03, 2021, 07:11:08 AM

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Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

Interesting one.

I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

I was also following this test match and really surprised with Indian women attitude as these ladies was on top against experienced Aussie women even just playing third second or third test match. But here most Guilty party is BCCI as they can go ahead with few things which are in their own control, but they are not doing. Like you said, WIPL could be more beneficiary for women in India and can bring some good number of girls in this game which could be bringing some good quality and competition. And after this they can also create 5 or 6 women cricket teams for local 3 or 4 days matches which also bring more experience and awareness which can bring them top of rank in near future because currently these already done more than expectations.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 03, 2021, 07:11:08 AM

~snip~
Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

Interesting one.

I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 03, 2021, 06:45:15 AM

Well, to be honest, men and women are biologically different. Women's cricket has a smaller ground. So it is justified to reduce the length by one day. And India will surely try to make Australia follow on, and maybe then try to bowl them out. But if that doesn't happen, this match might end up in a draw. Ellyse Perry is still on the crease so Australia still has hope.

The match will surely end in a draw, not because it was restricted for 4-days, but because of the overs lost to bad weather. Australia made 36/2 in the second innings. It was a near-impossible task for India to take 10 Australian wickets in 15 overs, and unsurprisingly they failed to do so. Indian pace attack, as usual heavily dependent on Jhulan Goswami (but this time got support from Pooja Vastrakar). Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 02, 2021, 11:15:28 PM

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?
Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

We have many concerns which need some good talk, but sadly it's not happening authorities prefer profit and their own benefits so just because of this we have many rules which can changed for better results, but it's not happening. Main issue is they have no women as consultants and fix things by their own.
Right now India in safe zone they have 250 runs lead, but we have just 40 overs remaining in last day of match which is not helping for any cause so better give your batsmen some practice and feel happy that first match against Australia ends on good note for India as they were on top of game against a quality opponent.

Well, to be honest, men and women are biologically different. Women's cricket has a smaller ground. So it is justified to reduce the length by one day. And India will surely try to make Australia follow on, and maybe then try to bowl them out. But if that doesn't happen, this match might end up in a draw. Ellyse Perry is still on the crease so Australia still has hope.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 02, 2021, 11:15:28 PM

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?

Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

We have many concerns which need some good talk, but sadly it's not happening authorities prefer profit and their own benefits so just because of this we have many rules which can changed for better results, but it's not happening. Main issue is they have no women as consultants and fix things by their own.

Right now India in safe zone they have 250 runs lead, but we have just 40 overs remaining in last day of match which is not helping for any cause so better give your batsmen some practice and feel happy that first match against Australia ends on good note for India as they were on top of game against a quality opponent.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 02, 2021, 02:24:30 PM

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?

Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

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A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

I would personally like to see more Test matches from Woman and this match is a draw because weather played a major role in this match and it is sad that they are only playing one Test in this tour and more over Woman Test matches are 4 days long unlike the men's version, so there is no way we would see a result in this match as there is only one day left and i would be surprised if any of the team plays a second innings.

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

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Quote from: add1ct3dd on October 02, 2021, 06:56:19 AM

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A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

I would personally like to see more Test matches from Woman and this match is a draw because weather played a major role in this match and it is sad that they are only playing one Test in this tour and more over Woman Test matches are 4 days long unlike the men's version, so there is no way we would see a result in this match as there is only one day left and i would be surprised if any of the team plays a second innings.

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The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

D Sharma is still batting and I think if she continues then a score of 400 or more can be accomplished. Indeed considering the Australian team, Indian team has done pretty well. The problem is that Indian team has lot 7 wickets and it will tough for the tail enders to support D Sharma.

A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

Indian women are playing just their 3rd test but still on top of game against women from Australia those are very experienced and sometime back won against England women it's really amazing for me and fans like me in homeland Most chances we are going to have result as draw as one all day is washed out and now today end of third day we are in first inning of Australia trailing by 245 with 4 out not ideal situation for them, but Indian ladies can do some better for their first win if they play some attacking game.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 02, 2021, 01:23:20 AM

The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

Thanks to great knock by Smriti Mandhana and Deepti Sharma, India made 377 runs. Other players also contributed well by scoring in 30s. Overall its good batting performance by Indian-W team.
Till now Aus-W batting is not as good as it should be. Still they have 6 wickets in hands and anything can happen. Mostly likely the match will end up in draw.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 02, 2021, 01:23:20 AM

The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

D Sharma is still batting and I think if she continues then a score of 400 or more can be accomplished. Indeed considering the Australian team, Indian team has done pretty well. The problem is that Indian team has lot 7 wickets and it will tough for the tail enders to support D Sharma.

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The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on October 01, 2021, 03:29:44 PM

These rules apply in soccer as players must play for national team instead of club, but sadly we are not able to do this in cricket IPL is multi-billion project and big three taking good profit from this, so they will never allow this even we are losing beauty of cricket. In man cases, we already lost this all but now as IPL organizers bringing some more teams, so this is going more lengthy and panic for other events in cricket and ICC is looking this all just as dumb case.

IPL is beyond any doubt a multi billion dollar business and is the top preference for boards and Players these days. I want to know how T20 leagues are benefiting ICC? Because players are not playing for the national sides, tour are cancelled or rescheduled because of it. If its good for cricket then ICC must stop bilateral tours since they are getting worthless because of players unavailability.

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 01, 2021, 05:09:03 PM

The ICC gives preference to national duty because that is how they earn money. I am not sure how much they earn with these franchise cricket. The shorter format has attracted many viewers to the game and there is no debate on that.

The ICC neither benefits from the franchise leagues, nor from the bilateral tours. Their revenue comes only from world cups and other tournaments that are organized by the ICC. So for the ICC, it is meaningless to get involved in this mess and it needs to be sorted out between the players and the board. My opinion is that the players have the option to chose. The so called "national boards" are private entities and they are not owned by the government. Playing for these boards is akin to working in a private enterprise.

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