Topic: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] - page 828. (Read 153096 times)

The Indian and English cricketers themselves don't have major issues with the pitch. The cricketers who are whining like kids are actually the commentators, England legends etc which is embarrassing to be honest.

These guys need to learn from New Zealand on how to accept and learn from your losses(NZ players could have made a big deal out of the World Cup final, but they chose not to).

I do not understand what’s wrong for having the pitch which supports spinners, like is it completely fine when the pitch supports fast bowlers then who will think for spinners under that case. Its fair to have the pitch supporting spinners, there are already pitches supporting fast bowlers. Okay match ended too quickly then expected but understand Indian 4th innings score was scored without losing a wicket so it means the pitch was getting better from 3rd day only thing need time to stand on the pitch.

Lets give bowlers too a chance to dominate the game completely and that is what happened on that match but even crickets feel its unfair to have a pitch which favours the spinners than batsmen. Pitch curator will be asked to produce better quality pitch this time and the match ended in just 2 days so they will be having more time to get the things done in the last match of this series to avoid any further criticism on the pitch side.

The broadcasters will not like the match finishing early but since it is India they wont have any complaints as they will get the advertisement revenue than any other country and if the match ends quite often then they might raise any concerns and ask to extend the contract as they are paying insane high amount of money for the matches and they are willing to pay because they can return them through advertisement and usually matches will not end in two days.

I really enjoyed the matches when bowlers have the advantage, i really do like the contest between bat and ball and i really do not enjoy when the batsman is dominating and the bowler is playing the second fiddle bowling the ball to amuse the audience fetching the ball outside stadium . I did not enjoy watching the T10 format matches as i do not find it entertaining when the batsman have all the advantage with shorter boundaries .

The rules that helps the batsman were written when there were no protection for the batsman nor they were having the helmet and now things are different and there should be a format that takes away all the undue advantage of a batsman, no leg side field restriction nor limits on bouncers but you can call wide.

The only problem i saw with the Ahmedabad pitch is the quality of the pitch, dust puffing in the first day and if the matches are not finished in the first 3 days you will see 90 degree turn from Joe Root and other part time bowlers .

The final match is played in the same stadium and hence there is no point in replacement, they should add an extra batman rather than wasting a spot as Axar and Ashwin will be bowling almost all the overs .

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I don't mind watching such game once a while, just for change but tbh i don't really enjoy 2 days test cricket because its not healthy for the test cricket overall. Having said that i am equally against the hypocritical behavior of almost everyone, when fast bowlers finish the game quickly then its good for cricket and batsmen can't play seam etc, but when its spin then every discussion focus on blaming the pitch, toss etc except batsmen.  

I might be a biased but i find this mindset bit of colonial and slave mentality. After all we want gora's approval on freaking everything.

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Bumrah is not playing next game, guess due to personal reason or rested..

I disagree with the people complaining and whining about the unfair pitch conditions(Vaughan, Cook etc). I agree with what Hussain and Ojha had to say regarding this matter.

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This pitch heavily favoured spinners from both teams in a fair manner, but India proved themselves as the better team at the end of the day. This was easily one of the most entertaining test matches in recent times in my opinion.

In both the cases, the TV broadcasters are going to lose out. If the match ends in two days instead of five, then their advertising revenue will be taking a big hit. For the cricket board, it is not an issue since the TV rights are already sold out and they are not much dependent on the gate collection. But for the TV channels and those who put up advertisement in the ground, it will turn to be a loss making proposition.

Any of you saw this tweet from former England captain Michael Vaughan, "Indian batsman can't play off spinners from Yorkshire." This was referred to Joe Root once after the first innings of India. Joe Root was the one to make a five wicket as a captain after Bob Willis.

Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are preparing similar pitches like India and the ball usually starts spinning from the first day and England had a successful campaign in Sri Lanka before touring India because of the quality of players India have. I am yet to see Pakistan preparing wickets like these as they recently resumed cricket and the pitches were decent when they played South Africa.

The solution to prepare green turf when Asians countries tour and repay the debt as i do not think ICC will interfere in the pitch preparation.

Probably the pitch could have been changed a bit if the players could play more but in modern-day cricket, the defense is getting weaker among all the teams due to the shorter cricket format like T20 and T10. Maybe we can see that this is one of the worth pitch to be played but it could have been tackled if batsmen started to think more defensive than thinking about making runs.

After watching the match the ICC should create a new format and the team should be given the complete freedom to prepare friendly wickets that helps them according to their strength which they already do but a format which helps bowlers without any restrictions to the field set as well as the number of bouncers allowed. Since the other formats gives batsman an advantage by imposing restrictions let the bowlers have a format as well  .

I enjoyed the match as it was fun to see how the batsman were struggling to read the line and length and the commentators were blaming the batsman for having low standards of defense rather than talking any negative about the pitch  .

Three pacers into the team is a wrong choice, but if one has been successful then the entire match could've got a different dimension. The first innings of England and India were almost the same, Joe Root succeeded. During the second innings England wasn't able to make a comeback, and the same is being used by the Indian spinners. As the target is very small, it gave a bigger win for India in a much comfortable manner.

Yes, you are right, fast bowlers weren't able to get many wickets but whereas spinner has taken most of the wickets even from the Indian bowling. There are very quality pacers in England but failed to get wickets but at last Joe, root got the maximum wickets.

England selected 3 pacers for the third test match, which turned out to be a big blunder. Dom Bess was disappointing at times with his line and length, but looking the way at which Joe Root picked up the wickets, I thought that he could have been effective in this match. They went with three pacers and these three got a total of 1 wicket (that of Shubman Gill, who fell to Jofra Archer).

SENA countries already do that.

I agree that this pitch was not suitable for the 5 day test cricket but it was not 2 day pitch either. Maximum 3-4 days pitch, domestic teams play on such pitches everytime. Batters from the both sides were bad in this game and meltdown only coming because spinners dominated the game and Blue eyed boys Anderson-Broad-Archer-Bumrah-Ishant were spectators throughout the game. If you reverse the role then everyone would go gaga over quality pace attack and every tom-dick-harry mainly from English side would give tips on how to play seam, pace etc but since its the spinner taking the wickets then ofcourse pitch is shit. After all no one can blame the toss this time.

Pink ball still new thing in the world cricket so give it sometime to develop and so far hardly any game went through all 4-5 days unless its completely flat wicket or rain interrupting the game and if you notice the results then you would see majority of game were completely one sided (Win by inning, 8-10 wickets or 100+ runs) On average D/N test match finish with in 2.5-3.5 days. Again no meltdown because Fast bowlers dominated the batsmen in Australia and England.
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Would be good if England start treating spin as part of the game and stop de-meriting the county team if they are creating Spin track instead of Seam in the county season.

Let's not forget the fact that this is the same match in which Joe Root picked 5 wickets after conceding 8 runs. The pitch was not suitable for international matches and therefore I don't think that Axar's performance will give him any advantage in team selection. The first choice spinner for the Indian side remains as Ashwin, and in overseas matches India is likely to go with just one spinner.

Saw one of the best bowling by Axar Patel yesterday. 6/38 and 5/32 this youngster is here to stay. India won because of their bowling and not for their batting. It was only Rohit Sharma who I can say performed as expected the rest need to reevaluate their performance especially Kohli. The last match is crucial for India if they want to win the series.

India do have quality fast bowlers. But their main bowler (Mohammad Shami) is injured and the others haven't got much opportunity to bowl so far in the test series. And regarding bowlers such as Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Mavi, they are yet to make their test debut for India. Once again, India is going to be overdependent on Virat Kohli against the pace battery of New Zealand.