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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 25, 2021, 11:21:46 AM

LOL.. in all probability, the WTC final is going to be between India and New Zealand and the interesting thing is that England will be hosting the match. This is a perfect opportunity for England to take out revenge. Grin

They can prepare a pitch which will give all sort of assistance to pace bowlers. New Zealand currently have the best pace bowlers for any team in international cricket, with Trent Boult, Kyle Jamieson, Lockie Ferguson, Adam Milne, Tim Southee, Neil Wagner.etc competing for slots in the playing XI. Indian batsmen are going to struggle against them under unfavorable conditions.

India also have a long list of fast bowlers that could trouble any batsman like Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Shami, Mohammed Siraj, T. Natarajan, Bhuvneshwar Kumar ( if his body allows Cheesy

), Umesh Yadav, Ishant Sharma, Kamlesh Nagarkoti, Shivam Mavi and the list can go on and on and if England will make a pitch could will help the fast bowlers then it will be a disadvantage for both the teams.

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I wasn't shocked to see this match end in 2 days, I did think it would go into day 3 at least but the pitch didn't suite either team in the end and it showed with both teams making low scores. I still think teams are getting used to the pink ball, right now the best team when it comes to playing with the pink ball is Australia as I think they have only lost 1 test match and won many.

This match reminded me of a test match years ago when Australia lost to India, I think the match lasted just 3 days but the pitch was tough to bat on, I believe something like 10+ wickets fell in just 1 day so it was like watching that match all over again here.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 11:02:00 AM

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 08:13:24 AM

Bencho...

then this is the shortest test match played ever.

Quote from: teosanru on February 25, 2021, 10:24:13 AM

I think it's the shortest test match in the history of test matches. Atleast the shortest I have ever seen in my life.

First after WW2

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Anyway, England is out from the WTC. Now India need win or draw to enter the WTC finals. And if by any chance England wins the last game, which seems unlikely, then will watch Aus vs NZ. Wink

Interesting to see it was around 90 years ago that we saw such a small test match conditions and cricket at that time was entirely different and cannot be compared with today's scenario in any sense. Moreover this match was with the pink ball. But I would be eager to see how ICC reacts to such a pitch. Even though BCCI has a lot of domination on ICC and I doubt ICC would be able to do anything but I am sure there will be a lot of talking about this. But India can easily say that they have struggled terribly on this pitch too so it was kind of an even match. Now I am pretty much sure it's India who are going to meet New Zealand at the WTC. But I think India will still play the last test with and intent of winning the match.

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^^^ There is a real possibility that England would launch a format complaint to the ICC about the state of the pitch and they may even request to shift the fourth match to some other stadium. In the past, poor condition of the pitch has resulted in abandoning test matches. I don't expect ECB to remain silent about this, as they were on the receiving end. The issue for them is that it is BCCI on the other end. If it was PCB or CSA, then they would have already gone ballistic about it.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 25, 2021, 12:05:58 PM

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It just shows how bad the pitch was created, there is no doubt that the pitch is tailor made for India to dominate but for the match to get over within two days is ridiculous as batsman from both the teams failed to score any runs. Axar Patel bowled as if he is playing Test for a long time as knew the perfect line and length for this wicket and was mixing deliveries which confused the players.

The pitch was just terrible and was much below international quality. I understand preparing pitches to suit the hosts. But this time, it went too far. Even the Indian batsmen could not get to a total of 150. If all the test nations follow this and prepare pitches to suit them, then it is going to create a lot of issues. I hope that the ICC has taken note of the condition of the pitch.

Pitch was uneven, and ENG pacers complained about that to on field umpires but this is the first-ever match held on that stadium so pitch may take time for enough groom, ENG too reap the hosts wickets with the spin but they didn't think about this at the beginning of the match. And almost every pitch was created to favor their native team over the visitors but this time it went far because this is the first time ever on that ground.

I read that, this ground has 11 pitches so the next match will be on the different pitch for sure and more neutral than this I guess.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on February 25, 2021, 11:49:57 AM

It just shows how bad the pitch was created, there is no doubt that the pitch is tailor made for India to dominate but for the match to get over within two days is ridiculous as batsman from both the teams failed to score any runs. Axar Patel bowled as if he is playing Test for a long time as knew the perfect line and length for this wicket and was mixing deliveries which confused the players.

The pitch was just terrible and was much below international quality. I understand preparing pitches to suit the hosts. But this time, it went too far. Even the Indian batsmen could not get to a total of 150. If all the test nations follow this and prepare pitches to suit them, then it is going to create a lot of issues. I hope that the ICC has taken note of the condition of the pitch.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 11:02:00 AM

English batsmen never focus on spin anyway, so can't complain about them much but Indians are considered good players against the spin and in the first inning they collapsed like a rookie team. Pick any Ranji batsmen from top 5 teams, they would have performed much better than national team as far as batting is concern. Indian team do have a habit of being complacent against spin, i do remember couple of instance where even part-timers took the game away from them.

Specialists test batsmen such as Pujara, Vihari (Although they are good batsmen of spin), Rahane (he need to spend more time before home season) should keep playing in the Ranji. Not expecting other premium batsmen to play in the domestic due to their schedule, which is sad.

It just shows how bad the pitch was created, there is no doubt that the pitch is tailor made for India to dominate but for the match to get over within two days is ridiculous as batsman from both the teams failed to score any runs. Axar Patel bowled as if he is playing Test for a long time as knew the perfect line and length for this wicket and was mixing deliveries which confused the players.

Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 11:02:00 AM

Anyway, England is out from the WTC. Now India need win or draw to enter the WTC finals. And if by any chance England wins the last game, which seems unlikely, then will watch Aus vs NZ. Wink

With pitches like this i am not expecting a draw and most probably India will face New Zealand for the initial WTC.

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What an exciting test match this has being like match was well balanced when India got all out in first innings and with just 33 runs lead and also a turnaround in second innings batting where without losing a wicket they could accomplish those 49 in quick time. Result has been super quick in this test match and now England need a win in last test to equal the series and would be in huge pressure as well.

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LOL.. in all probability, the WTC final is going to be between India and New Zealand and the interesting thing is that England will be hosting the match. This is a perfect opportunity for England to take out revenge. Grin

They can prepare a pitch which will give all sort of assistance to pace bowlers. New Zealand currently have the best pace bowlers for any team in international cricket, with Trent Boult, Kyle Jamieson, Lockie Ferguson, Adam Milne, Tim Southee, Neil Wagner.etc competing for slots in the playing XI. Indian batsmen are going to struggle against them under unfavorable conditions.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 25, 2021, 08:34:43 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 08:13:24 AM

Bencho...

then this is the shortest test match played ever.

Quote from: teosanru on February 25, 2021, 10:24:13 AM

I think it's the shortest test match in the history of test matches. Atleast the shortest I have ever seen in my life.

First after WW2

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 08:13:24 AM

Bencho...

2nd day, 5th session of the game and 3 innings already finished, its shows how modern batsmen forgot how to play spin on spin track and it includes Indian batsmen too. They were pretty shit on this wicket as well. Everyone only wants to excel against the fast bowlers.

I thought that England arrived in India well prepared. They planned the tour in such a way that they get some match practice in Sri Lanka before they take on the Indian spinners. But looks as if they never expected the minefields similar to the one which was prepared in Ahmedabad. It's not over yet. India needs to win (or draw) the fourth test match, in order to qualify for the WTC finals.

English batsmen never focus on spin anyway, so can't complain about them much but Indians are considered good players against the spin and in the first inning they collapsed like a rookie team. Pick any Ranji batsmen from top 5 teams, they would have performed much better than national team as far as batting is concern. Indian team do have a habit of being complacent against spin, i do remember couple of instance where even part-timers took the game away from them.

Specialists test batsmen such as Pujara, Vihari (Although they are good batsmen of spin), Rahane (he need to spend more time before home season) should keep playing in the Ranji. Not expecting other premium batsmen to play in the domestic due to their schedule, which is sad.

Anyway, England is out from the WTC. Now India need win or draw to enter the WTC finals. And if by any chance England wins the last game, which seems unlikely, then will watch Aus vs NZ. Wink

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Quote from: teosanru on February 25, 2021, 10:24:13 AM

Was this a test match?? I think it's the shortest test match in the history of test matches. Atleast the shortest I have ever seen in my life. English batsmen were struggling like they are U-11 school team playing against Indian team and Indian batsmen batted like U-19 team against team England. If England would have had a couple of good spinners this match would have become more interesting.

I don't understand what the England players played. One by one they came to the crease and got out and went back to the dressing room. I have never seen such a poor performance of the England team in my life. The next Test match will be held on March 4, with about 9 days left. Hopefully, in these 9 days, England will prepare themselves properly to win the next Test match

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Was this a test match?? I think it's the shortest test match in the history of test matches. Atleast the shortest I have ever seen in my life. English batsmen were struggling like they are U-11 school team playing against Indian team and Indian batsmen batted like U-19 team against team England. If England would have had a couple of good spinners this match would have become more interesting.

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People enjoy such quickies sometimes only. Batsmen need to level up their game now and pitches need to be neutral for more fun.

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A test match concluded in 2 days? haha we need more pitches like this. It was very entertaining and for once bowlers get to party. I was just earlier talking about how NZ vs Aus series was such a downer for bowlers with a flat batting wicket + smaller outfields, making any thick edge from a fast bowler go into the stands for a 6. I guess the balance is restored haha.

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Hitman ended the match with some big shots and the winning shot is a six, didn't expect this match will end in just 2 days, spinners never let the opponents to score any runs the only mistake by ENG is to have 3 pacers on their side and one regular spinner. Now India need to win or draw the next match to enter into WTC finals

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Cannot believe my eyes. Majority of T20 matches end with way higher scores in comparison. Expected a 200+ lead by India, but was stunned to see Root dismiss them so quickly. England collapsing for 81 was even more surprising. I guess spinners fell in love with this pitch.

Rohit basically saved the Indian team in both innings basically. With just 38 runs required, India basically won this one at this point.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 08:13:24 AM

Bencho...

2nd day, 5th session of the game and 3 innings already finished, its shows how modern batsmen forgot how to play spin on spin track and it includes Indian batsmen too. They were pretty shit on this wicket as well. Everyone only wants to excel against the fast bowlers.

I thought that England arrived in India well prepared. They planned the tour in such a way that they get some match practice in Sri Lanka before they take on the Indian spinners. But looks as if they never expected the minefields similar to the one which was prepared in Ahmedabad. It's not over yet. India needs to win (or draw) the fourth test match, in order to qualify for the WTC finals.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2021, 08:13:24 AM

Bencho...

2nd day, 5th session of the game and 3 innings already finished, its shows how modern batsmen forgot how to play spin on spin track and it includes Indian batsmen too. They were pretty shit on this wicket as well. Everyone only wants to excel against the fast bowlers.

Yes, by the second innings England should've made themselves strong or should've made a comeback. India being on the home have managed to score 145 runs in the first innings. Just 38 runs to be scored on the third day for India to win the match. If there is more one hour for the day 2, then the match might have come to an end by now. Probably if it had ended within two days, then this is the shortest test match played ever.

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OK.. so the match will last 6 sessions. Congratulations to the curator!!! If it ended before the dinner break, then I guess it could have been a new record. Now England made sure that the match stretches to the third session of the day. Don't want to blame the England batsmen. Afterall, the much renowned Indian batsmen were skittled out for just 145. Hope they prepare a decent track for the fourth test.

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Bencho...

2nd day, 5th session of the game and 3 innings already finished, its shows how modern batsmen forgot how to play spin on spin track and it includes Indian batsmen too. They were pretty shit on this wicket as well. Everyone only wants to excel against the fast bowlers.

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