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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 06, 2021, 09:56:40 PM

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New Zealand vs India final at Lord's, June 18-June 22.

Time for swing - seam battle. Boult + Southee + Wagner + Kyle Jamieson (all rounder) vs Bumrah + Ishant + Shami + Hardik /Shardul (all rounders) (reserve Siraj, not counting others). Bowling looks impressive for both teams.

But Kiwis batsmen perform much better on seaming wickets so tough battle ahead for Indian batsmen.

ICC will be preparing the pitch and therefore I don't expect any unusual support for the pacers. For them, it will be beneficial if the match lasts the full five days. Batsmen look out of form for both the teams. Rahane and Pujara are not scoring consistently and even Kohli had a recent drop in form. For New Zealand also, apart from Kane Williamson, the other batsmen are not up to the mark.

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Exciting match to look forward to though I guess it starts after IPL 2021 ends. I would place my bet on India though since they seem better in all departments when compared to NZ currently.

Williamson is the key batsman for NZ while Pant seems to be the key batsman for India. I wish this was a series though since just 1 match to decide the winner seems a bit unfair to both sides.

Kiwis playing 2 tests match series against England before the WTC finals so it would help them, although some premier player will feature in IPL (condition apply: if their franchise reach the final of IPL). On the other hand Indian team will go directly to finals without any practice match so its a tricky situation.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 06, 2021, 09:56:40 PM

ICC will be preparing the pitch and therefore I don't expect any unusual support for the pacers. For them, it will be beneficial if the match lasts the full five days.

Usually the ICC will not look after the pitch preparation during ICC events as the host nation will take care of those. The WTC will be a great success if we will see the result rather than going for a draw and hence i expect a good pitch that have support for the bowlers as well.

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Batsmen look out of form for both the teams. Rahane and Pujara are not scoring consistently and even Kohli had a recent drop in form. For New Zealand also, apart from Kane Williamson, the other batsmen are not up to the mark.

India is having issues with the opening partnership, Rohit Sharma cemented his place and he played well in this series and Pujara and Rahane should be consistent as all the matches India won were helped by the lower order players and i doubt we will see Washington Sundar in the final even though he made a lasting impression.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 06, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

New Zealand vs India final at Lord's, June 18-June 22.

About WTC final, we have a new update about the venue due to ongoing pandemic. ICC planning to move WTC final out of Lord's

And the new venue is yet to be announced by ICC so we never know what kind of pitch the teams going to play.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 07, 2021, 04:24:18 AM

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 06, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

New Zealand vs India final at Lord's, June 18-June 22.

Time for swing - seam battle. Boult + Southee + Wagner + Kyle Jamieson (all rounder) vs Bumrah + Ishant + Shami + Hardik /Shardul (all rounders) (reserve Siraj, not counting others). Bowling looks impressive for both teams.

But Kiwis batsmen perform much better on seaming wickets so tough battle ahead for Indian batsmen.

Exciting match to look forward to though I guess it starts after IPL 2021 ends. I would place my bet on India though since they seem better in all departments when compared to NZ currently.

Williamson is the key batsman for NZ while Pant seems to be the key batsman for India. I wish this was a series though since just 1 match to decide the winner seems a bit unfair to both sides.

NZ was bit lucky to reach the finals however indians are much stronger team and favorites for this match. But since this match is played at lords, it may favor NZ too and could be an interesting match.
I also suggest that instead of single match decider, it would be better if they could arrange a best of three matches to decide the winner.

The problem with India is its middle order, they have been struggling which is evident in the last test match. Tailenders have been contributing a lot. Gill as an opening batsman has also failed. India need to look into the batting line up before the finals otherwise NZ will easily win it.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 07, 2021, 03:38:06 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 06, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

New Zealand vs India final at Lord's, June 18-June 22.

Time for swing - seam battle. Boult + Southee + Wagner + Kyle Jamieson (all rounder) vs Bumrah + Ishant + Shami + Hardik /Shardul (all rounders) (reserve Siraj, not counting others). Bowling looks impressive for both teams.

But Kiwis batsmen perform much better on seaming wickets so tough battle ahead for Indian batsmen.

Exciting match to look forward to though I guess it starts after IPL 2021 ends. I would place my bet on India though since they seem better in all departments when compared to NZ currently.

Williamson is the key batsman for NZ while Pant seems to be the key batsman for India. I wish this was a series though since just 1 match to decide the winner seems a bit unfair to both sides.

NZ was bit lucky to reach the finals however indians are much stronger team and favorites for this match. But since this match is played at lords, it may favor NZ too and could be an interesting match.
I also suggest that instead of single match decider, it would be better if they could arrange a best of three matches to decide the winner.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 06, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

New Zealand vs India final at Lord's, June 18-June 22.

Time for swing - seam battle. Boult + Southee + Wagner + Kyle Jamieson (all rounder) vs Bumrah + Ishant + Shami + Hardik /Shardul (all rounders) (reserve Siraj, not counting others). Bowling looks impressive for both teams.

But Kiwis batsmen perform much better on seaming wickets so tough battle ahead for Indian batsmen.

Exciting match to look forward to though I guess it starts after IPL 2021 ends. I would place my bet on India though since they seem better in all departments when compared to NZ currently.

Williamson is the key batsman for NZ while Pant seems to be the key batsman for India. I wish this was a series though since just 1 match to decide the winner seems a bit unfair to both sides.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 06, 2021, 12:56:24 PM

New Zealand vs India final at Lord's, June 18-June 22.

Time for swing - seam battle. Boult + Southee + Wagner + Kyle Jamieson (all rounder) vs Bumrah + Ishant + Shami + Hardik /Shardul (all rounders) (reserve Siraj, not counting others). Bowling looks impressive for both teams.

But Kiwis batsmen perform much better on seaming wickets so tough battle ahead for Indian batsmen.

ICC will be preparing the pitch and therefore I don't expect any unusual support for the pacers. For them, it will be beneficial if the match lasts the full five days. Batsmen look out of form for both the teams. Rahane and Pujara are not scoring consistently and even Kohli had a recent drop in form. For New Zealand also, apart from Kane Williamson, the other batsmen are not up to the mark.

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New Zealand vs India final at Lord's, June 18-June 22.

Time for swing - seam battle. Boult + Southee + Wagner + Kyle Jamieson (all rounder) vs Bumrah + Ishant + Shami + Hardik /Shardul (all rounders) (reserve Siraj, not counting others). Bowling looks impressive for both teams.

But Kiwis batsmen perform much better on seaming wickets so tough battle ahead for Indian batsmen.

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Quote from: onrise on March 06, 2021, 08:38:17 AM

What a day for India and specially for Pant and Sundar. Unfortunately, Sundar just missed and could not complete his century. Axar was very special in bowling and with his 43 runs this helped India in the end as India did not had to bat in second innings as India won by 25 runs and an innings. India did well to win 3-1 series.

England might've never thought of innings loss against India. Throughout the series India played well, and in this match the Indian cricketers are really strong. In specific, each and every player gave their contribution. If one doesn't do well, the next one takes the role and paved path for win. This is the reason I find on India for having a 3-1 series win.

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Quote from: onrise on March 06, 2021, 08:38:17 AM

What a day for India and specially for Pant and Sundar. Unfortunately, Sundar just missed and could not complete his century. Axar was very special in bowling and with his 43 runs this helped India in the end as India did not had to bat in second innings as India won by 25 runs and an innings. India did well to win 3-1 series.

This guy Pant is here to stay, I am pretty sure he will be the permanent wicketkeeper for India in test format. I am sure BCCI would now also check his batting and wicketkeeping abilites for shorter format. Axar patel performed exceptionally well in his home ground, he is another person's who would be seen quite frequently in different formats of Indian cricket. I am sorry for Sundar he did his job but could not find a partner on the other side to stick till the end.

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What a day for India and specially for Pant and Sundar. Unfortunately, Sundar just missed and could not complete his century. Axar was very special in bowling and with his 43 runs this helped India in the end as India did not had to bat in second innings as India won by 25 runs and an innings. India did well to win 3-1 series.

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I am sure BCCI planted nanobots at the pitch during the lunch break.

England struggling at 34/4, all 4 wickets belongs to Axar-Ashwin its clearly shows that they are mentally exhausted completely (Stokes physically) and already gave up.

When ever England played except for the first innings of the first Test BCCI was planting some kind of bots to shift the surface and the England batsman were struggling and when India plays somehow they flat out the pitch Cheesy

. 205 in the first innings and 135 in the second innings and i think Washington Sundar should be given the man of the match award to bat the way he did in this pitch and picked a crucial wicket in the first innings and Axar Patel or Ravichandran Ashwin will be the man of the series.

Pant was given as man of the Match for his 100 and he deserved it because at one stage India were struggling at 150 for loss of six wickets and the partnership between Sundar and Pant made the difference here.Aswin as the Man of series and there is no wonder because spin outplayed this series completely and Ashwin was one of the important man in the spin attack with his handy knocks while batting too.

Finally, India qualified for the WTC finals.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 06, 2021, 02:27:48 AM

I am sure BCCI planted nanobots at the pitch during the lunch break.

England struggling at 34/4, all 4 wickets belongs to Axar-Ashwin its clearly shows that they are mentally exhausted completely (Stokes physically) and already gave up.

When ever England played except for the first innings of the first Test BCCI was planting some kind of bots to shift the surface and the England batsman were struggling and when India plays somehow they flat out the pitch Cheesy

. 205 in the first innings and 135 in the second innings and i think Washington Sundar should be given the man of the match award to bat the way he did in this pitch and picked a crucial wicket in the first innings and Axar Patel or Ravichandran Ashwin will be the man of the series.

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ENG tail is not much stronger as India so now the match is almost finished by today, the question is India can win by an innings which can give them great confidence when they enter into the WTC finals. Washington Sundar is a great find for team India and he also have great future ahead hope he will not get stuck into any politics and not enough opportunites.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 06, 2021, 03:21:38 AM

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So far in this series, we didn't see any fumbles when he was behind the wicket and don't forget, all are turning tracks so its a big improvement IMO. He would get better with the experience. Not sure about short format but in test format he has all the ingredients to become like a Gilly and he's heading in the right direction.

Dhoni is limited overs great (WK batsman) but with all due respect, he was average in the Test format so comparison with the Pant doesn't makes sense IMO. Pant already surpassed Dhoni in the red ball cricket in his short career.

Your points make sense bro, but comparing him to such legends is still way too early IMO. I admit that he has improved a lot in recent times and has a bright future in the test format, but he needs to perform well across all formats in order to be compared with Gilly, MSD etc.

MSD's wicketkeeping skills are legendary across all formats IMO which is why I disagree with your point that his skills were average in the test format. There are tons of compilations available online to prove that.

Bhai there is a reason i'm not comparing his ODI stats.

Pants bats down the order, 5th or 6th. Dhoni used to bat at same position, so Dhoni wins here easily. We can't compare Pant and Gilly in ODI because Gilly was opener.

Ofc he still have long journey ahead and all i'm saying that he might end up like gilly in the test format. Workload is heavy nowadays compare to old days so it would be interesting if he continues to play 70-80 tests.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 05, 2021, 09:06:21 PM

So far in this series, we didn't see any fumbles when he was behind the wicket and don't forget, all are turning tracks so its a big improvement IMO. He would get better with the experience. Not sure about short format but in test format he has all the ingredients to become like a Gilly and he's heading in the right direction.

Dhoni is limited overs great (WK batsman) but with all due respect, he was average in the Test format so comparison with the Pant doesn't makes sense IMO. Pant already surpassed Dhoni in the red ball cricket in his short career.

Your points make sense bro, but comparing him to such legends is still way too early IMO. I admit that he has improved a lot in recent times and has a bright future in the test format, but he needs to perform well across all formats in order to be compared with Gilly, MSD etc.

MSD's wicketkeeping skills are legendary across all formats IMO which is why I disagree with your point that his skills were average in the test format. There are tons of compilations available online to prove that.

Quote from: JSRAW on March 06, 2021, 02:27:48 AM

6th wicket down, England still trailing 95 runs.

England are pretty much finished at this point. India are destroying them once again. Looks like they will qualify for the WTC final.

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I am sure BCCI planted nanobots at the pitch during the lunch break.

England struggling at 34/4, all 4 wickets belongs to Axar-Ashwin its clearly shows that they are mentally exhausted completely (Stokes physically) and already gave up.

Result coming today? We still have 50+ overs.

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@Haunebu did you saw that? Wink

5th wicket down, Ollie Pope stumped!!

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And Root is gone..

6th wicket down, England still trailing 95 runs.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 06, 2021, 12:55:02 AM

The run-out of Axar Patel triggered a mini collapse of the Indian lower order. The last three wickets fell without adding any runs to the total. Ishant and Siraj should have blocked a few deliveries or given strike to Washington Sundar. Both of them failed in that part, and that left Sundar four runs short of his century.

Washington Sundar deserved the century as he along with Pant helped India recover when some of the renowned players failed to score runs and the run out messed everything up as India lost 3 wickets in the spare of 5 balls. I did not expect India to have a lead of 160 runs when they lost 5 wickets but incredible performance by Pant, Washington Sundar and Axar Patel.

Axar Patel opened the bowling along with Siraj and it is going to be a big test for England.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 06, 2021, 12:46:03 AM

Ishant Sharma and Md Shiraz are yet to bat. So India still have batsmen and Sundar needs only four runs to get his hundred. I was also expecting Axar to reach his fifty, unfortunately it did not happen. The lead is 160 runs which is much more than I anticipated, It will be tough for England to chase it.

The run-out of Axar Patel triggered a mini collapse of the Indian lower order. The last three wickets fell without adding any runs to the total. Ishant and Siraj should have blocked a few deliveries or given strike to Washington Sundar. Both of them failed in that part, and that left Sundar four runs short of his century. Anyway, congratulations to Stokes and Anderson for bowling their heart out. If Archer was picked ahead of Dom Bess, then probably he could have had an impact.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 06, 2021, 12:39:04 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 05, 2021, 11:50:47 PM

As a wicketkeeper and a Batsman, Pant has shown that he is made for test cricket. I do not know how he will perform in limited overs, but he is cricketer who has shown that the team can be depend on him. I am expecting sundar to also reach his 100 today.

Nope. Sundar won't get to 100. He is stranded at 96 not out, and India is all out for 365.

India is having a lead of 160 runs and I don't think that England will be able to make that much in the second innings. So it is going to be yet another innings defeat for England. Among the England bowlers, the two pacers took 7 wickets, conceding 133 runs. Both of them were impressive, although Stokes ran out of gas after tea yesterday. On the other hand, their spinners conceded a total of 216 runs, taking 2 wickets. Dom Bess in particular was pathetic.

Ishant Sharma and Md Shiraz are yet to bat. So India still have batsmen and Sundar needs only four runs to get his hundred. I was also expecting Axar to reach his fifty, unfortunately it did not happen. The lead is 160 runs which is much more than I anticipated, It will be tough for England to chase it.

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