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Quote from: morvillz7z on June 26, 2022, 07:50:59 PM

Have we discussed trade vetoes yet, and do we really want them? We had to wait two days for trades to get approved on ESPN last year (review period). I'm aware we had a few of those completed within the league, but the fact that we had to wait discouraged me from proposing/pursuing trades on more than one occasion. How about we get rid of it completely? Once a trade offer is accepted, it's auto-confirmed...there is no need to wait, cast votes, etc. I understand the risk of collusion, and trades made in bad faith could really hurt the league, it's just the waiting period i find super annoying...Thoughts?

I hate trade vetoes personally and I would be all for allowing them to be processed immediately. When it comes to trades (In my personal opinion) the only person who should be allowed to veto them is the commissioner and only if they deem the trade to be cheating (obviously this means the commissioner needs to know what they are doing). Otherwise, it really shouldn’t be anyone else’s business. I also hate the two day wait period. By allowing them to be processed immediately you’re not holding people up from setting lineups and what not. I really don’t think anyone here would cheat, so I thankfully don’t think we have to worry about that.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 26, 2022, 11:38:07 PM

Is 10 player league official? I will vote for what the majority wants. If it is 10, I am with 10. It might be easier for newbies like me.

I'm no expert at fantasy football (last year was the first time I had played since the early/mid aughts,) but it stands to reason that the more teams, the more difficult it is to pick up a gem. Whether it's during the draft off the waivers, there are going to be fewer opportunities to find a stand out player.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 26, 2022, 11:38:07 PM

+1

It looks like the majority is in favor of sticking with the 10 teams we currently have, the following voted for 10:

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ChiBitCTy
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Hueristic
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That's 7 votes for 10, which settles that question.

Quote from: South Park on June 28, 2022, 12:19:53 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on June 21, 2022, 05:34:20 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on June 21, 2022, 05:31:35 PM

I would also like to have at least 2 IR spots (i think that's the default setting in Yahoo), 1 was not ideal last year. By the way, the NFL has made some changes in that regard:

Agreed lets add this to the list.

That would be great, having only 1 IR spot was a nightmare last year, so having 2 IR spots will reduce the impact of having lots of players on IR, something which happened to both of us last year.

I'm good with that, I like the idea of having two IR spots.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on June 26, 2022, 07:50:59 PM

Have we discussed trade vetoes yet, and do we really want them? We had to wait two days for trades to get approved on ESPN last year (review period). I'm aware we had a few of those completed within the league, but the fact that we had to wait discouraged me from proposing/pursuing trades on more than one occasion. How about we get rid of it completely? Once a trade offer is accepted, it's auto-confirmed...there is no need to wait, cast votes, etc. I understand the risk of collusion, and trades made in bad faith could really hurt the league, it's just the waiting period i find super annoying...Thoughts?

I think last year the rule made sense, not because of the risk of collusion but because we had 3 newbies playing in the league, myself included, so this was a way to protect us from doing terrible trades, but now everyone got some experience so I think we could do without that rule, but those are my thoughts lets see what the rest of the league members think about it.

I guess the whole trade veto thing makes sense if we were playing with a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet, but I'd like to think we're past that, lol. This is a friendly league, and I don't see collusion becoming an issue. I'm good with instant trades.

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Quote from: Hueristic on June 21, 2022, 05:34:20 PM

Quote from: morvillz7z on June 21, 2022, 05:31:35 PM

I would also like to have at least 2 IR spots (i think that's the default setting in Yahoo), 1 was not ideal last year. By the way, the NFL has made some changes in that regard:

Agreed lets add this to the list.

That would be great, having only 1 IR spot was a nightmare last year, so having 2 IR spots will reduce the impact of having lots of players on IR, something which happened to both of us last year.

Quote from: suchmoon on June 24, 2022, 07:15:17 PM

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 24, 2022, 05:20:21 PM

Two more hard votes for 10 players, that make 3 of us.

Count me in for 10. I think at this point instead of waiting/looking for two more teams we're better off discussing other stuff like divisions, playoffs etc, and I want to hit mock drafts as soon as possible LOL.

+1

Quote from: morvillz7z on June 26, 2022, 07:50:59 PM

Have we discussed trade vetoes yet, and do we really want them? We had to wait two days for trades to get approved on ESPN last year (review period). I'm aware we had a few of those completed within the league, but the fact that we had to wait discouraged me from proposing/pursuing trades on more than one occasion. How about we get rid of it completely? Once a trade offer is accepted, it's auto-confirmed...there is no need to wait, cast votes, etc. I understand the risk of collusion, and trades made in bad faith could really hurt the league, it's just the waiting period i find super annoying...Thoughts?

I think last year the rule made sense, not because of the risk of collusion but because we had 3 newbies playing in the league, myself included, so this was a way to protect us from doing terrible trades, but now everyone got some experience so I think we could do without that rule, but those are my thoughts lets see what the rest of the league members think about it.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 24, 2022, 05:20:21 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 24, 2022, 12:38:26 AM

Hehehe it also scares me. What about if we make it optional and we only have a buy yourself out agreement if someone wants to stop playing and leave the game? This will not force anyone to pay, however, it will force everyone to play despite if someone is winning or losing hehehe.

I'm not a fan of punishing people for doing poorly, that seems like pouring salt on the wound. There's plenty of incentive to do well, and something like that might sour the experience for someone. I'd rather keep it as friendly as possible. But without holding back on the banter, of course.

Punishment of poor performance was clearly not in my mind when I made the suggestion, only motivation to play until the final day.

@morvillz7z. I only want a clean and fair league. I also think that all the participants of our league are honest and will not collude only to win a prize collected from $50 fees hehehehe. It would he a different argument if it was $1000. I am okay in removing it.

Is 10 player league official? I will vote for what the majority wants. If it is 10, I am with 10. It might be easier for newbies like me.

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Have we discussed trade vetoes yet, and do we really want them? We had to wait two days for trades to get approved on ESPN last year (review period). I'm aware we had a few of those completed within the league, but the fact that we had to wait discouraged me from proposing/pursuing trades on more than one occasion. How about we get rid of it completely? Once a trade offer is accepted, it's auto-confirmed...there is no need to wait, cast votes, etc. I understand the risk of collusion, and trades made in bad faith could really hurt the league, it's just the waiting period i find super annoying...Thoughts?

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 24, 2022, 05:20:21 PM

Two more hard votes for 10 players, that make 3 of us.

Count me in for 10. I think at this point instead of waiting/looking for two more teams we're better off discussing other stuff like divisions, playoffs etc, and I want to hit mock drafts as soon as possible LOL.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 24, 2022, 12:38:26 AM

Hehehe it also scares me. What about if we make it optional and we only have a buy yourself out agreement if someone wants to stop playing and leave the game? This will not force anyone to pay, however, it will force everyone to play despite if someone is winning or losing hehehe.

I'm not a fan of punishing people for doing poorly, that seems like pouring salt on the wound. There's plenty of incentive to do well, and something like that might sour the experience for someone. I'd rather keep it as friendly as possible. But without holding back on the banter, of course.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on June 24, 2022, 04:58:21 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on June 24, 2022, 03:32:49 PM

I’m good with 10 teams.

Agreed let's bump to 10~

Two more hard votes for 10 players, that make 3 of us.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on June 24, 2022, 03:32:49 PM

I’m good with 10 teams. This will make the league a bit easier for everyone. I know this league is not meant to be super serious so 10 teams makes it easier to play being that teams will have better players. When you get to 12 and 14 team leagues (though I prefer them) it makes it much more difficult as it requires a good bit more time researching players.

Glad everyone is on board with 17 week season. One of the biggest mistakes I made when I first started playing was keeping in that last week. The only coach who’s team is headed to the playoffs and still plays his stars in the final week is Bill Belichick lol

Agreed let's bump to 10 and if we need to get to 12. 12 requires a lot of knowledge on the 3rd and 4th recievers and hitting the waiver wire correctly. Let's see how we do with 10 and add next year if there is room for growth here. Excited for football. LFG!!

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I’m good with 10 teams. This will make the league a bit easier for everyone. I know this league is not meant to be super serious so 10 teams makes it easier to play being that teams will have better players. When you get to 12 and 14 team leagues (though I prefer them) it makes it much more difficult as it requires a good bit more time researching players.

Glad everyone is on board with 17 week season. One of the biggest mistakes I made when I first started playing was keeping in that last week. The only coach who’s team is headed to the playoffs and still plays his stars in the final week is Bill Belichick lol

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 24, 2022, 12:38:26 AM

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 23, 2022, 04:34:23 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 23, 2022, 12:09:24 AM

Is there a difference between playing 10 teams and 12 teams?

I think 12 teams would make things easier since we could have the regular season be 11 weeks long, then still have up to 5 weeks for playoffs without having to play week 17. Another option for 12 players is to have 4 divisions, and play each of your division rivals twice. That would make the regular season 13 weeks long, and we'd still have 3 weeks for playoffs without week 17. I would like to keep the playoffs to 3 weeks, that would make for Quarter Finals (8 teams,) Semi Finals (4,) and Finals for the championship.

We could still do the same thing without divisions, we'll just have two random teams that we each play twice, then select the top 8 teams for the playoffs.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 23, 2022, 12:09:24 AM

In any case, I might regret this suggestion later. I suggest for everyone's continued motivation until the end of the season, bottom 2 teams pay between $20 and $25 each.

Even though I won the league last year, this scares me. Shocked

Hehehe it also scares me. What about if we make it optional and we only have a buy yourself out agreement if someone wants to stop playing and leave the game? This will not force anyone to pay, however, it will force everyone to play despite if someone is winning or losing hehehe.

Works for me if everyone else is in.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 23, 2022, 04:34:23 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 23, 2022, 12:09:24 AM

Is there a difference between playing 10 teams and 12 teams?

I think 12 teams would make things easier since we could have the regular season be 11 weeks long, then still have up to 5 weeks for playoffs without having to play week 17. Another option for 12 players is to have 4 divisions, and play each of your division rivals twice. That would make the regular season 13 weeks long, and we'd still have 3 weeks for playoffs without week 17. I would like to keep the playoffs to 3 weeks, that would make for Quarter Finals (8 teams,) Semi Finals (4,) and Finals for the championship.

We could still do the same thing without divisions, we'll just have two random teams that we each play twice, then select the top 8 teams for the playoffs.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 23, 2022, 12:09:24 AM

In any case, I might regret this suggestion later. I suggest for everyone's continued motivation until the end of the season, bottom 2 teams pay between $20 and $25 each.

Even though I won the league last year, this scares me. Shocked

Hehehe it also scares me. What about if we make it optional and we only have a buy yourself out agreement if someone wants to stop playing and leave the game? This will not force anyone to pay, however, it will force everyone to play despite if someone is winning or losing hehehe.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on June 23, 2022, 05:47:56 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 23, 2022, 05:30:29 PM

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 23, 2022, 04:34:23 PM

without having to play week 17

There are 18 weeks in the NFL season (17 games + bye). So if we just want to avoid the last week, we can still make the season 17 weeks long. But 16 is fine with me too.

I'm fine either way. Not really sure what other leagues are doing but it usually is tied to the championship being the game before the last game of the year. I'm fine either way. What's the default on the leagues 17 weeks?

Doh! That was a brain fart, yes 17 weeks is good with me. I like the idea of skipping the last week of the season, we don't need to make it any shorter than that.

The other thing I wanted to say is that I'm fine with sticking to the 10 players we currently have. This is a good crew, and for the sake of keeping a fun league I'm going to vote for keeping it as-is.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 23, 2022, 04:34:23 PM

without having to play week 17

There are 18 weeks in the NFL season (17 games + bye). So if we just want to avoid the last week, we can still make the season 17 weeks long. But 16 is fine with me too.

I'm fine either way. Not really sure what other leagues are doing but it usually is tied to the championship being the game before the last game of the year. I'm fine either way. What's the default on the leagues 17 weeks?

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on June 23, 2022, 04:34:23 PM

without having to play week 17

There are 18 weeks in the NFL season (17 games + bye). So if we just want to avoid the last week, we can still make the season 17 weeks long. But 16 is fine with me too.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 23, 2022, 12:09:24 AM

Is there a difference between playing 10 teams and 12 teams?

I think 12 teams would make things easier since we could have the regular season be 11 weeks long, then still have up to 5 weeks for playoffs without having to play week 17. Another option for 12 players is to have 4 divisions, and play each of your division rivals twice. That would make the regular season 13 weeks long, and we'd still have 3 weeks for playoffs without week 17. I would like to keep the playoffs to 3 weeks, that would make for Quarter Finals (8 teams,) Semi Finals (4,) and Finals for the championship.

We could still do the same thing without divisions, we'll just have two random teams that we each play twice, then select the top 8 teams for the playoffs.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 23, 2022, 12:09:24 AM

In any case, I might regret this suggestion later. I suggest for everyone's continued motivation until the end of the season, bottom 2 teams pay between $20 and $25 each.

Even though I won the league last year, this scares me. Shocked

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Is there a difference between playing 10 teams and 12 teams? In any case, I might regret this suggestion later. I suggest for everyone's continued motivation until the end of the season, bottom 2 teams pay between $20 and $25 each.

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Quote from: South Park on June 21, 2022, 03:17:08 AM

09. Structure of the playoffs.

I have no opinion on this, what are the options?

For example 4 teams, 6 teams (with wildcard round), or 8 teams in the playoffs. Is playoff round one game or two games (like we had last year).

It also depends on whether we have 10 teams or 12. With 12 teams I think I would prefer to have just one regular season game with each other (that's 11 weeks) and expanded playoffs (8 teams and/or 2 games per round) to fill it up to 16 or 17 weeks, instead of having some random games added to the regular season.

Edit: of course there is also an option to have no playoffs at all.

I guess we will have to decide this after we decide on the amount of teams?

I think we have all pretty much agreed 10 is fine?

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Quote from: Hueristic on June 21, 2022, 02:54:23 PM

Quote from: South Park on June 21, 2022, 03:17:08 AM

09. Structure of the playoffs.

I have no opinion on this, what are the options?

For example 4 teams, 6 teams (with wildcard round), or 8 teams in the playoffs. Is playoff round one game or two games (like we had last year).

It also depends on whether we have 10 teams or 12. With 12 teams I think I would prefer to have just one regular season game with each other (that's 11 weeks) and expanded playoffs (8 teams and/or 2 games per round) to fill it up to 16 or 17 weeks, instead of having some random games added to the regular season.

Edit: of course there is also an option to have no playoffs at all.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on June 21, 2022, 05:31:35 PM

I would also like to have at least 2 IR spots (i think that's the default setting in Yahoo), 1 was not ideal last year. By the way, the NFL has made some changes in that regard:

Agreed lets add this to the list.

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