Topic: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 - page 124. (Read 58451 times)

I'm glad everyone is on board with yahoo, it's definitely a better and more smooth app /user-face etc.  The drafting on Yahoo is just as easy as the drafting on ESPN if not easier.  

I've had plenty of convos with Hueristic on PPR lol, and while I like it because it makes things more difficult/competitive in my mind, I of course am happy playing Non-PPR.  (btw speedy recovery Hueristic, sorry to hear about that.  I got rid of my motorcycle a few years ago from fear of something similar.  Thank god it wasn't worse ).


Lol I've connected the dots, I've been playing for many years and many leagues each year.  I simply don't agree with you. I've never found this to be the case in the countless leagues I've played in. There is no algorithm, whether it's PPR or not, auto-draft simply drafts whoever is higher up on the their rankings list.  That list is the same for PPR and Non-PPR.


Again happy to be commish. I've ran countless leagues, and enjoy doing so ( I've got too much free time on my hands lol ).

We aren't all that far away from the season, can't wait to play with you guys this year!

I would like to play in league where the fantasy football is simulated as very close as possible to the NFL games we watch every weekend. I vote the standard format. It would not matter much for me, however hehehe. But I like more points opportunties for rushers like Ekeler, Henry and Chubb.

@DireWolfM14. Why not points for first downs?

In any case, when should we start and who wil be the commissioner of our league?

I've been reading up on it and yeah, Fuck PPR.  It's a silly addition really.  One of the things Drew Loftis mentions in that article is how the game doesn't differentiate between yards gained via passing or running, so why should fantasy football.  Clearly it has no affect on the game.  The point about first downs not being scored is a good one too, I would be in favor of that addition.

WHY PPR is Bad.

A player gets one target from the 10 yard line and takes it to the house.


90 yds 9pts
tds 6pts

Total 15 standard points
PPR 1pt
total 16 PPR points

A Prima Dona back that makes 10 times that above players salary total per year gets 20 targets and catches 16 for NO Touchdown and NO appreiciable effect on the game.

0 yds 0pts
0 tds 0pts

Total 0 standard points
PPR   16pt
total 16 PPR points


A worse effect is we don't see these widely skewed numbers regularly but only variations of them so its not apparent to the masses that this is PPR.

What happens is People that have no clue go on twatter and bitch and complain that their Prima donna back didn't get enough targets and thats why the team lost when that is not actually the case as they see target share as a metric for the team doing well when in fact it is the opposite.

When hoards of these arm chair coaches make enough noise coaches cow down and increase the non productive players share which only makes the team myoptic which in turn cause a spiral down of the players and the team. This is a self fulfilling prophecy that harms the internal structure of the team as a whole. And is being fed by the popularity of PPR.

PPR is sold as a easier game for beginners but in fact it is a easier game for algorithms. If you don't believe me then just check how many leagues get won by autodrafted teams. I found it amusing that Chicity has a hatred for autodraft when in fact his hatred is for the algo that is correct most of the time, he just didn't connect the dots that this is due to PPR.

well I'm tired and in pain and just wanted to make a quick post of my thoughts on the subject as you guys asked.
I'm not spell checking cause i'm just hurting today and want to take a pill and browse.

also this is a good example and as morvillz7z  pointed out, its an easy google.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/01/how-to-keep-ppr-scoring-from-ruining-fantasy-football-forever/

https://next.voxcreative.com/sponsored/9333087/ppr-leagues-are-everything-that-s-wrong-with-america-a-fantasy

https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/4kpo2q/what_are_your_arguments_for_ppr_vs_standard/


Personally I would love to see points per first down added and maybe some others but I get tired enough just trying to stop the PPR infiltration into fun leagues I'm in.

Nope, Yahoo has better interface, easier to navigate/draft.


Even the worst apps out there (namely NFL.com) have data on player's availability, who's questionable/injury reserve etc, no need to worry about that.


We went with Standard scoring, in short, PPR leagues devalue running backs for wide receivers and pass-catching running backs. I personally find it easier to prepare for a draft if the league has standard scoring or 0.5 PPR . Let me share a quote i really like about PPR:

source: https://nypost.com/2016/08/04/why-ppr-is-bad-for-fantasy-football/

Speedy recovery, damn...Week 1 ready! 

I have not checked this thread for some time so I am kind of behind when it comes to the new league and I am just updating myself.

Thanks for your encouragement but unfortunately I am really busy so I will have to step down as League Manager this year, even if it was not that time consuming, however I am 100% in when it comes to participating and I am fine if you guys want to move the new league to yahoo or another website.


That sucks, just concentrate on getting better which at the end is what really matters.

@Hueristic. I am sorry about your accident. Have speedy recovery. Sometimes I forget that there is a real person behind the avatars and the forum names hehe.

On our fantasy league last season, did it have have PPR? Let's do what is easier for newbies like me hehehehe.

Wow just seen this, that's terrible I hope first and foremost you have a speedy recovery.

And if you don't mind I would actually like to hear why peoe don't like ppr.  I think it adds a different skill in picking running backs in that a pure rusher like Henry is an easy pick but you could have a good pass catcher match up with him in fantasy.  It adds to the skill of ff in my mind.

When you get a chance can you post why ppr is a no go for you?

god, long list when i'm feeling up to it i'll elaborate.


traffic hit fog bank on a curve and i followed car in front of me off road.

What's that, point per reception?  If that's a deal-breaker, then it's settle, lol!  No PPR!  Just out curiosity though, what is it you don't like about it?



Holy shit, man!  I'm glad you're still here to join us!  I wish you a speedy and complete recovery.

What happened to cause you to lose control?  If you don't mind me asking.  I still ride for recreation and road trips, and I know how dangerous it can be.  I'm getting to the age where injuries taking substantially longer to heal, which has finally caused me to slow it down a bit.  And I do mean A BIT!  

Fucking hell... I think that counts as a valid excuse for not posting much.

Hang in there. I hope you have a speedy recovery.

12 teams would be good but no-one we don't know even 2 people cheating wiull ruin a fun league.

Southpark did a great job and hopefully he will step up again otherwise we can discuss who should be commish.

Also I agree that yahoo is the best hosting site and all we will need to do is port over the agreed on rules.

I am still adamant that I will not play ANY PPR.

sorry not posting much but I got into a bike accident.

Hit a telephone pole doing 45 and broke my back, pelvis and 4 ribs along with a dislocation and a ton of other smaller injuries.

Is it more difficult drafting players in Yahoo? I have already become very familiar with ESPN's app. I also was reading some comparisons between ESPN and Yahoo and it appears that Yahoo does not alert you if a players is out for the game or questionable?

In any case, when do we collect the entries and how much? Also, should we also have last 2 people with lowest points pay more money at the end of the season hehehe.

I'm trying to get all my fantasy leagues at Yahoo next season, kinda tired of jumping around different apps and websites.

Don't hate ESPN, they have an alright UI, positional rankings are handy, but Yahoo is just better overall.

+1 shill vote for Yahoo! 

Yep, I'm still here always ready to lose some money.

Being still mostly a noob at this, I don't mind any changes, 12 teams, Yahoo, all fine with me, as long as we agree at least 4 weeks in advance and I have time to practice build false hopes.

ESPN used to be better, it's what I used when I first started playing around 15 years ago or so but since then Yahoo has become a lot better IMO.  Fine w/either one of course.

We used ESPN last year.  It was fine, but some are saying that Yahoo is better.  it's been over 15 years since I've used Yahoo for Fantasy Football, but I didn't have any problem with it.  Whatever you experienced guys prefer is fine with me.

Yeah that's the thing, when you've only got 8 teams in a league, it's not fun when you're heading in to the playoffs and your opponent has a key player get injured but no problem, they can just go pick up a stud on the waiver wire. No fun.  


Oh okay, I just read your reply to morvillz7z about being commissioner.  But yeah if South Park doesn't feel like doing it again I'd be happy to take over.  

Which provider did you guys use last year.. ESPN/Yahoo etc?

I agree, we should try to get 12 participants if we can.  It was fun last year with a small crew, but it would be fun to have some more competition.  There're usually two or three really good running backs, quarterbacks, receivers, and tight ends in the league, and with fewer teams it makes it easy for one manager to stack up his team with these high scoring players.  Having more teams makes that harder to do, and we'll all have to rely on the more average players week in, week out.


Awesome, thanks for volunteering.  I would just as soon let South Park decide if he's willing to keep the job for another year, but if not you've got my vote.  It's early still, so we have plenty of time.

12 is the way to go if possible. Makes the league more competitive and it is just overall more fun. 10 isn’t too bad but 12 is kind of that sweet spot. I’d be happy to be commissioner of the league if you guys wanted. I run the other league from here and have many times over the years. Would be no problem.