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Are you guys planning on watching the USFL season opener this weekend? New Jersey Generals @ Birmingham Stallions (7:30 pm, ET, April 16).

Obviously not the real thing but still, some of us need their football fix. It's eight teams and a 10-week regular season, some cool stuff like body cams, drone cams, there will be also chip in the balls to measure first downs (no chains).

USFL twitter account: https://twitter.com/USFL
Rules explained: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2022-nfl-draft-better-than-team-here-are-20-prospects-pete-prisco-likes-more-than-the-scouts-do/
Teams, coaches, roster previews: https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-football-ultimate-2022-usfl-week-1-betting-dfs-fantasy-football-preview
Additional info: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/usfl/usfl-everything-you-need-to-know



I can't see myself watching this.  You need to be insanely hard-core to watch this.  Maybe the opener out of curiosity but after that not interested.  It's like watching minor league baseball on TV between the San Antonio sandpipers vs the Tallahassee tornados.  Just not anything to watch unless you have personal interest like knowing someone who is playing in the game.

Don't look up those baseball teams they don't exist lol.
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Are you guys planning on watching the USFL season opener this weekend? New Jersey Generals @ Birmingham Stallions (7:30 pm, ET, April 16).

Obviously not the real thing but still, some of us need their football fix. It's eight teams and a 10-week regular season, some cool stuff like body cams, drone cams, there will be also chip in the balls to measure first downs (no chains).

USFL twitter account: https://twitter.com/USFL
Rules explained: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/new-usfl-rules-include-three-point-tries-best-of-three-overtime-shootout-onside-kick-alternative/
Teams, coaches, roster previews: https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-football-ultimate-2022-usfl-week-1-betting-dfs-fantasy-football-preview
Additional info: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/usfl/usfl-everything-you-need-to-know

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The Jaguars hype and marketing team is the best in the NFL hehehe. However, I agree that Travis Etienne has a chance to perform and help his team get a better result this year compared to 2021. It will not be that difficult hehe considering their 2021 standing. Ettiene was my prediction for rookie of the year during the draft.



Jaguars could get a huge boost from 2021 class alone

Etienne should be the biggest help for next year’s team since he was the second-highest draft pick. He and running back James Robinson will make a formidable one-two punch. Etienne is also an excellent receiver out of the backfield. However, he still needs to improve in pass protection.


Source https://sports.yahoo.com/jaguars-could-huge-boost-2021-005808968.html



Also, this news about corruption with the Washington Commanders. If proven guilty, what would happen to the owners? Will they be forced to leave their franchise?



Congress accuses Commanders of stealing season ticket deposits, hiding revenue from NFL in letter to FTC

n a letter to the Federal Trade Commission, which was obtained by the Washington Post, the House Committee on Oversight and Reform accused Commanders executives and team owner Daniel Snyder of hiding revenue from the NFL for over a decade by withholding security deposits that should have been refunded to season ticket-holders.


Source https://sports.yahoo.com/congress-accuses-commanders-of-stealing-season-ticket-deposits-hiding-revenue-from-nfl-in-letter-to-ftc-185750481.html

Honestly yeah Etienne shoukd be a huge boost this year.  Since he was out all of last year it's almost like a bonus first round pick.  If I were the jags knowing you have your young "hopefully" franchise quarterback and young rb I'd take a tackle with the first pick.  Either Neal or icky would be a solid choice.  Jags are honestly set up real nice.  They splashed during FA, have young talent and a host of high draft picks.  Trendy pick as the Longshot to win their division.  Long shot but still.
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The Jaguars hype and marketing team is the best in the NFL hehehe. However, I agree that Travis Etienne has a chance to perform and help his team get a better result this year compared to 2021. It will not be that difficult hehe considering their 2021 standing. Ettiene was my prediction for rookie of the year during the draft.



Jaguars could get a huge boost from 2021 class alone

Etienne should be the biggest help for next year’s team since he was the second-highest draft pick. He and running back James Robinson will make a formidable one-two punch. Etienne is also an excellent receiver out of the backfield. However, he still needs to improve in pass protection.


Source https://sports.yahoo.com/jaguars-could-huge-boost-2021-005808968.html



Also, this news about corruption with the Washington Commanders. If proven guilty, what would happen to the owners? Will they be forced to leave their franchise?



Congress accuses Commanders of stealing season ticket deposits, hiding revenue from NFL in letter to FTC

n a letter to the Federal Trade Commission, which was obtained by the Washington Post, the House Committee on Oversight and Reform accused Commanders executives and team owner Daniel Snyder of hiding revenue from the NFL for over a decade by withholding security deposits that should have been refunded to season ticket-holders.


Source https://sports.yahoo.com/congress-accuses-commanders-of-stealing-season-ticket-deposits-hiding-revenue-from-nfl-in-letter-to-ftc-185750481.html
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Dwayne haskins just passed away at 24.  Dude got hit by a dump truck, dam man.  So young, football wise I think he just needed to grow up a bit and was rooting for him to male the Pittsburg squad.  Sad
I just read the news today and it is so sad, obviously to make it to the NFL you need to have a lot of talent so I always thought Haskins only needed to study the game more and he could develop into a good QB, as without a doubt he had the physical attributes to become one, also with the retirement of Big Ben he had a good chance to be the starting QB of the Steelers as Rudolph has never been the answer at the position, and even if the Steelers picked a QB during the draft, the current draft class does not seem to be as good as the previous one so they will probably need one year to develop him and get him NFL ready, but I suppose this does not matter anymore.

Rest in peace.
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Dwayne haskins just passed away at 24.  Dude got hit by a dump truck, dam man.  So young, football wise I think he just needed to grow up a bit and was rooting for him to male the Pittsburg squad.  Sad
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And then there is this whole thing with Dolphins. I can't imagine Arians being too happy about that, it's like cheating on your wife with a neighbor.
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Broken clock and all that...

But I gotta admit BA's retirement looks quite bizarre, particularly the timing after Brady's un-retirement.

Agreed, it is head scratching. However, did Tom Brady and Bruce Arians have conflicts or disagreed much when Brady joined the team during that superbowl winning season? I never heard anything and have always thought that the Buccaneers was a team of players with similar minds and disposition.
There were in fact disagreements between Brady and Arians during the season they won the SB and Arians even criticized Brady in front of the media at least once, so who knows what went behind closed doors between those two.

Maybe Arians retired because of a power struggle, after all when Brady was with the Patriots he had in Belichick someone which could keep him and the rest of the team in check, however with the Bucs who could keep Brady in check? Arians? Not really, If Arians told you to do something and Brady told you to do the opposite who would you listen to? In theory the players should listen to Arians, but the prestige of Brady is so great that maybe the players decided to follow Brady’s instructions over Arians, and even Arians talked about this saying that if he gave an order the players were not very enthusiastic about doing it but if Brady said the same thing to them then they will do it without thinking about it.

I wouldn't doubt Arians/Brown had something to do with it as well.
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Broken clock and all that...

But I gotta admit BA's retirement looks quite bizarre, particularly the timing after Brady's un-retirement.

Agreed, it is head scratching. However, did Tom Brady and Bruce Arians have conflicts or disagreed much when Brady joined the team during that superbowl winning season? I never heard anything and have always thought that the Buccaneers was a team of players with similar minds and disposition.
There were in fact disagreements between Brady and Arians during the season they won the SB and Arians even criticized Brady in front of the media at least once, so who knows what went behind closed doors between those two.

Maybe Arians retired because of a power struggle, after all when Brady was with the Patriots he had in Belichick someone which could keep him and the rest of the team in check, however with the Bucs who could keep Brady in check? Arians? Not really, If Arians told you to do something and Brady told you to do the opposite who would you listen to? In theory the players should listen to Arians, but the prestige of Brady is so great that maybe the players decided to follow Brady’s instructions over Arians, and even Arians talked about this saying that if he gave an order the players were not very enthusiastic about doing it but if Brady said the same thing to them then they will do it without thinking about it.
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Broken clock and all that...

But I gotta admit BA's retirement looks quite bizarre, particularly the timing after Brady's un-retirement.

Agreed, it is head scratching. However, did Tom Brady and Bruce Arians have conflicts or disagreed much when Brady joined the team during that superbowl winning season? I never heard anything and have always thought that the Buccaneers was a team of players with similar minds and disposition.
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Yeah makes absolutely no sense unless he was against Brady coming back which would be insane lol.  With the nfc the weak division why wouldn't you want one more premium shot at a ring?  Health, family, etc had to be something underneath it because strictly looking at it from a football perspective this is the worst premature retirement I've seen.
The only other explanation I can think of is that maybe he already got what he wanted out of football, while we know there are players which are there exclusively for the money, cough Rodgers cough, there are others that are chasing to win at least one ring before they retire, Arians was like that, even if he had 2 SB rings as an assistant coach he had yet to get one as the HC, so maybe once he got it he simply thought he had achieved what he wanted and it was the moment to retire from the HC position.

Nah Bruce has gone through the football ringer.  If everything was good, you have a very weak NFC and you are the one team with a once in a century qb, so there shot at a super bowl is like even odds.  As a coach if ypu are in it this is the perfect situation.  Something had to have happened.  He didn't just up and retire after a Brady reversal like this.  Sketch.
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The only other explanation I can think of is that maybe he already got what he wanted out of football, while we know there are players which are there exclusively for the money, cough Rodgers cough, there are others that are chasing to win at least one ring before they retire, Arians was like that, even if he had 2 SB rings as an assistant coach he had yet to get one as the HC, so maybe once he got it he simply thought he had achieved what he wanted and it was the moment to retire from the HC position.

But if that was the plan, wouldn't it have made more sense to do so when Brady retired? Or even before, when the season ended basically.

Now they got Brady back and perhaps a legitimate chance at SB again, and Arians says nah, I don't want it anymore.

But maybe he'll un-retire in a month or so  Grin
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Yeah makes absolutely no sense unless he was against Brady coming back which would be insane lol.  With the nfc the weak division why wouldn't you want one more premium shot at a ring?  Health, family, etc had to be something underneath it because strictly looking at it from a football perspective this is the worst premature retirement I've seen.
The only other explanation I can think of is that maybe he already got what he wanted out of football, while we know there are players which are there exclusively for the money, cough Rodgers cough, there are others that are chasing to win at least one ring before they retire, Arians was like that, even if he had 2 SB rings as an assistant coach he had yet to get one as the HC, so maybe once he got it he simply thought he had achieved what he wanted and it was the moment to retire from the HC position.
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From what I gathered Arians would come in late and nix plays that Brady and the Offensive Coordinator had already spent time on the field working out.

You don't fuck with the mans work ethic or time left.

I can relate.
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Broken clock and all that...

But I gotta admit BA's retirement looks quite bizarre, particularly the timing after Brady's un-retirement.

Yeah makes absolutely no sense unless he was against Brady coming back which would be insane lol.  With the nfc the weak division why wouldn't you want one more premium shot at a ring?  Health, family, etc had to be something underneath it because strictly looking at it from a football perspective this is the worst premature retirement I've seen.
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Broken clock and all that...

But I gotta admit BA's retirement looks quite bizarre, particularly the timing after Brady's un-retirement.
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"NFL approves OT rules tweak for playoffs only"
source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33622482/teams-assured-possession-playoff-rules-change

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NFL owners approved a modified proposal for overtime Tuesday that will guarantee each team a possession, but only in the postseason.

The rule for regular-season games, which allows the team with the first possession to win if it scores a touchdown, will remain unchanged.

Bills would've scored... Grin

Agreed, this is a very good change! The NFL should not leave the teams their playoff season being left on the luck of a coin toss. It might also be good for the regular season if they also change it. I think something similar also happened to the Chargers versus the Raiders.

The Buccanners head coach retires, he will be replaced by Todd Bowles. Will Bowles be a good head coach? What do you NFL experts say? Also, what will this do to Tom Brady?



Bruce Arians surprised the NFL world on Wednesday night when he announced his retirement.

Arians is moving into the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ front office as a senior football consultant, and will be replaced by defensive coordinator Todd Bowles.

Naturally, the announcement drew plenty of reaction from the NFL world on social media — both congratulating Arians on his retirement and praising Bowles, who will get his second shot as a head coach in the league after his first stint with the New York Jets.


Source https://sports.yahoo.com/tom-brady-nfl-world-reacts-after-tampa-bay-buccaneers-coach-bruce-arians-retires-todd-bowles-named-successor-015050265.html
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@suchmoon - you mentioned something about Rodgers wanting more money and I want to say you kind of hinted towards it being a bit selfish..I think I actually defended him a bit in that regard but you were dead on.  Him being okay with letting Adams be traded, since they didn't have the money to keep him long term, really does show a lot about Rodgers greediness, willing to let the best WR in the game go like that.

Yes, I do consider him to be greedy, or at least more greedy than other top QBs when it comes to making money vs building the team.

I'm not sure what's the management's angle on this. Why pay so much for a QB who's on the way to retirement, instead of rebuilding the team. Jordan Love must be loving this, if you excuse my lame pun.

My buddy called me tonight to chat sports and he told me that rodgers has been the highest paid player over the course of his years in thr NFL over everyone else. Siting Brady often taking less to sign guys to make the team better and even Mahomes making some team friendly contract moves in his recent deal. I believe Rodgers has at least 5 very good years left if he wants it, but he’s already proving to come up short in the playoffs minus his one championship year, not sure how he and the team plan on doing it with no one to throw to. I imagine they draft WR heavy and early in a month. 
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who got scammed in this trade? NFL experts, was this a good trade? Tyreek Hill traded for 5 draft picks?

I don't mind what the Chiefs did, getting 5 draft picks for a WR is always good, regardless of who you're trading away, and the Chiefs probably couldn't afford to pay both Mahomes and Hill, let alone give him $30 mil per year. Chiefs still have Hardman, have signed JuJu and MVS, and the draft is stacked with excellent wide receivers if they decide to go that route. I know they finished in the top five in every major offensive category, but teams started to adjust. They ran a lot of 'Cover 2' against them last season, which means the defense will take away the explosive plays and allow short/intermediate completions. Mahomes and Hill both struggled (lol struggle is probably not the right word) against it, with Mahomes more than doubling his interceptions from the previous two seasons and Hill finishing with 11.2 yards per reception, the lowest of his career (if not counting his rookie year). I'm not suggesting that losing an explosive player like Hill is something you should be excited about but Mahomes/Chiefs should be more concerned that the rest of the AFC West got exponentially better this offseason.

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I speculate Tyreek Hill might be lower in fantasy points for 2022 compared to 2021 because of the Dolphin's quarterback.

I don't picture Tua trying to complete 50-yard bombs to Hill every single play. Deebo did well with Mike McDaniel's designed runs, and Hill's run game is there. I'm not sure how the Dolphins' offense will look next season, but a significant drop in Hill's fantasy production seems unlikely.


"NFL approves OT rules tweak for playoffs only"
source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33622482/teams-assured-possession-playoff-rules-change

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NFL owners approved a modified proposal for overtime Tuesday that will guarantee each team a possession, but only in the postseason.

The rule for regular-season games, which allows the team with the first possession to win if it scores a touchdown, will remain unchanged.

Bills would've scored... Grin
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