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Kittle is just "O" for now. He could be back next week.

He needs to rest after kicking my ass last week!
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If I were you, i'd still pick someone off the waiver, you never know when you'll need extra points.

Yeah... You're probably right. I do have 4 RBs on the bench, guess I have room to store a 3rd TE. Cooper Kupp got injured so I'm picking up the Rams TE, Colby Parkinson, as he'll probably see more action than normal. His name suggests he will soon be injured as well, lol.

Put Kittle in your second IR spot and pick someone. Engram's backup actually scored points after getting the start, there are a few other decent options available.

Kittle is just "O" for now. He could be back next week.
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Looks like I'll be playing w/o a TE this week... I have 2: one is out and the other is doubtful. I could scramble to pick up a 3rd but its exceptionally slim pickings for this position right now. Like, there's really no free agents worth picking up. Thank God it turns out the Jets have a pretty decent defense & gave me 8 extra points so far. <...>

If I were you, i'd still pick someone off the waiver, you never know when you'll need extra points.

Skylar Thompson will be throwing to Tyreek, we don't know how that will go, the Dolphins' offense could be a disaster in the coming weeks. The Saints' defense is legit, Singletary and Flowers have tough matchups.

Put Kittle in your second IR spot and pick someone. Engram's backup actually scored points after getting the start, there are a few other decent options available.


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I'm not sure I agree with odds makers placing Arizona as the underdog at home against the Lions.  Arizona ML is at 2.18 right now, with a spread of +2.5 at 1.92.  A 2 point handicap doesn't seem worth the effort.  If it's that low I might as well go with ML.  I'm thinking that's the bargain bet this weekend.  Someone talk me out of it, lol.

I’m here for ya brother! Lol.  On paper this should be one be one of the best/ most competitive games of the week. Sure it’s easy to say that about any game that’s got a spread that close, but both teams are solid, still trying to find their footing sure, but both should be in the playoffs this year. Det is the better team. QBs flip a coin any given day but Goff is more stable. Looking at overall offenses and Ds though, Det wins. Their backfield is elite, they have an elite WR1 (AZ likely does too , but he’s played 2 weeks so far in his career, and TE (Only been two weeks LaPorta will be fine). Home-field advantage helps, but IMO not enough. I’d take Det personally.
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Looks like I'll be playing w/o a TE this week... I have 2: one is out and the other is doubtful. I could scramble to pick up a 3rd but its exceptionally slim pickings for this position right now. Like, there's really no free agents worth picking up. Thank God it turns out the Jets have a pretty decent defense & gave me 8 extra points so far. Or maybe its just because the Giants are that awful. My thinking was the Jets need a good defense to make Rodgers' job easier.
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@DireWolfM14. Agreed and this might be because, similar to last season, the oddsmakers might be continuing to consider Jared Goff and the Lions as the darlings for this season. Also, this might be an underestimation of Kyler Murray who appears that he will have a resurrection and an ascension for this season if the rumors are true that he has stopped playing his playstation hehehe.

I reckon Justin Herbert and the Chargers will also be the season's darlings if they have the victory over the Chiefs on September 29. Jim Harbaugh coach of the year!
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I'm not sure I agree with odds makers placing Arizona as the underdog at home against the Lions.  Arizona ML is at 2.18 right now, with a spread of +2.5 at 1.92.  A 2 point handicap doesn't seem worth the effort.  If it's that low I might as well go with ML.  I'm thinking that's the bargain bet this weekend.  Someone talk me out of it, lol.
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Yahoo still doesn't list Deebo as IR-eligible Angry

Sucks, I have the same issue on all my teams with Kupp, I had to drop guys I didn't want to for waivers as well, totally sux balls.

Apparently Yahoo does not designate OUT until it is official.

https://www.nfl.com/injuries/  <<<--- I think this is the list but am not sure.

I spent some time yesterday trying to figure out why the fuck guys that are definitely out and even announced by the head coach were not being marked out and this is whet I came up with.

Until then they only give the Doubtful tag.

I think the REAL issue is the NFL not making the designations official soon enough.

GOOD Read.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/49ers-nfl-injury-report-rules-mason-shanahan-mccaffrey/8e6f46426b3669eda1e3bd22


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"The reporting process is of paramount importance in maintaining the integrity of the game."

You can find specifics on the three sections below, directly from the NFL's rulebook.

    The Practice Report provides clubs and fans with an accurate description of a player’s injury status and how much he participated in practice during the week. If any player has a significant or noteworthy injury, it must be listed on the practice report, even if he fully participates in practice and the team expects that he will play in the team’s next game. This is especially important for key players whose injuries may be covered extensively by the media.
    The Game Status Report provides clubs and fans with an accurate description of a player’s availability for the club’s next game. Teams must notify the league, their opponent, local and national media, and the league’s broadcast partners of the status of their injured players by 4 p.m. ET the day before their next scheduled game.
    The In-Game Injury Report requires club personnel to report in-game injury information factually and accurately as soon as it is available. In-game injury updates must be disseminated to the broadcast partner, the media and the fans in the stadium at the same time. Clubs must post injury updates on the stadium video boards, scoreboards or ribbon boards so fans at NFL games are also informed.

I don't know if you guys remember but they changed how this all has to be reported about 2-4 years ago.  I am having a hard time remembering the specifics, but there was one more official designation that made things better for fantasy players.  This however is really odd with Deebo, as mentioned his coach has already stated his going to miss multiple weeks ( this is the first I'm hearing of this so let me just say FACKKKKKK).

But yeah, since his team has yet to submit a report calling him out, nothing we can do until ruled that way ( it's the same for every outlet as I just checked ESPN and Sleeper as well). 

@moon feel ya on the Deebo pain.  I have him in one of my other big leagues and that guy had so much going for him with CMC out, Aiyuk coming back slowly..they needed to lean on him heavily.  Sucks.
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Ah the good ol week 2-17 dilemmas, who to keep amd who to drop.  Teams screw fantasy owners when they don't put people on IR but they couldn't care less I'm sure.  Always tough dropping bench players to pick up waiver wire guys while holding onto your hurt players.  I have kupp in a league hoping Rams finally just IR him.  Fantasy is really just a "please don't let my guys get hurt" sport lol.
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Yahoo still doesn't list Deebo as IR-eligible Angry

Sucks, I have the same issue on all my teams with Kupp, I had to drop guys I didn't want to for waivers as well, totally sux balls.

Apparently Yahoo does not designate OUT until it is official.

https://www.nfl.com/injuries/  <<<--- I think this is the list but am not sure.

I spent some time yesterday trying to figure out why the fuck guys that are definitely out and even announced by the head coach were not being marked out and this is whet I came up with.

Until then they only give the Doubtful tag.

I think the REAL issue is the NFL not making the designations official soon enough.

GOOD Read.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/49ers-nfl-injury-report-rules-mason-shanahan-mccaffrey/8e6f46426b3669eda1e3bd22


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"The reporting process is of paramount importance in maintaining the integrity of the game."

You can find specifics on the three sections below, directly from the NFL's rulebook.

    The Practice Report provides clubs and fans with an accurate description of a player’s injury status and how much he participated in practice during the week. If any player has a significant or noteworthy injury, it must be listed on the practice report, even if he fully participates in practice and the team expects that he will play in the team’s next game. This is especially important for key players whose injuries may be covered extensively by the media.
    The Game Status Report provides clubs and fans with an accurate description of a player’s availability for the club’s next game. Teams must notify the league, their opponent, local and national media, and the league’s broadcast partners of the status of their injured players by 4 p.m. ET the day before their next scheduled game.
    The In-Game Injury Report requires club personnel to report in-game injury information factually and accurately as soon as it is available. In-game injury updates must be disseminated to the broadcast partner, the media and the fans in the stadium at the same time. Clubs must post injury updates on the stadium video boards, scoreboards or ribbon boards so fans at NFL games are also informed.
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Yahoo still doesn't list Deebo as IR-eligible Angry

I saw that, he's listed as doubtful...  For a couple of weeks...

We really need to switch to something better next year.

Yeah, we don't... Grin

It's not Yahoo's fault. They can't mark him "IR" or "O" until the 49ers officially place him on IR or declare him OUT for the week.

If you have a guy listed as "Doubtful" and you absolutely need to pick a player off the waiver but don't have a free spot, simply release your kicker and get the player you want, get the kicker later on.
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Yahoo still doesn't list Deebo as IR-eligible Angry

I saw that, he's listed as doubtful...  For a couple of weeks...

We really need to switch to something better next year.

Anyway, my brother (you know him as buttholesmasher  Roll Eyes ) scored some tickets for the game against the Cardinals on Oct. 6.  I hope Deebo and CMC are healthy and back in the lineup by then.
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Yahoo still doesn't list Deebo as IR-eligible Angry
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that is all.

ARSB picked up an injury, not sure if he finished the game. Kupp was in a walking boot after the Rams game, Engram pulled a hammy in warmups, and Tua with a concussion...that's on top of Mostert and KWIII's injuries from Week 1. Shiiit!!! If one of my guys gets injured i'm straight up not having a good time, dealing with this many injuries so early in the season is insane. Stay strong!  Grin




So much scoring that they couldn't fit his receiving yards, rec touchdown, and rec first downs in the box score. Lol  I might actually survive this if Bijan does not put up similar numbers, but 180 total yards and 4 touchdowns is wild, and it was against the supposedly "good" Cowboys defense. It reminds me of Kamara scoring six touchdowns a few years back, which happened to be Championship Week if i recall correctly.

Yeah it's brutal.  With that being said I've hit a new low as a giants fan.  They scored 3 touchdowns and the commanders didn't score 1 single touchdown and the giants lose.  Lol I don't know if that's ever been done before.  Is there a site to look up these kind of stats.  It's beyond rediculous and if it wasn't for fantasy football I'd already be out of watching this season.  Waste of another Sunday properly done lol.

According to nbcsports, only the second time in history:

source: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/giants-are-second-team-in-nfl-history-to-score-3-tds-allow-0-tds-and-lose
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In today's 21-18 loss to the Commanders, the Giants scored three touchdowns, allowed zero touchdowns, and still lost the game. It was only the second time in NFL history that a team lost while scoring three touchdowns and allowing none. The only other time it happened was in 1989, when the Vikings beat the Rams 23-21.

I was wondering why the Giants were going for it so many times on fourth downs, turns out Gano was injured and they didn't have a backup kicker.

Yeah Gano got hurt on the opening kickoff.  When they scored their first touchdown they tried letting the punter kick the extra point and it looked terrible lol.  Bad enough that they didn't try another extra point and no field goals.  Realistically could have had around 27 points so I mean yeah could have helped but still nothing crazy.  At this point I don't even care if they win or lose just want to see a competitive game out of them.
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that is all.

ARSB picked up an injury, not sure if he finished the game. Kupp was in a walking boot after the Rams game, Engram pulled a hammy in warmups, and Tua with a concussion...that's on top of Mostert and KWIII's injuries from Week 1. Shiiit!!! If one of my guys gets injured i'm straight up not having a good time, dealing with this many injuries so early in the season is insane. Stay strong!  Grin




So much scoring that they couldn't fit his receiving yards, rec touchdown, and rec first downs in the box score. Lol  I might actually survive this if Bijan does not put up similar numbers, but 180 total yards and 4 touchdowns is wild, and it was against the supposedly "good" Cowboys defense. It reminds me of Kamara scoring six touchdowns a few years back, which happened to be Championship Week if i recall correctly.

Yeah it's brutal.  With that being said I've hit a new low as a giants fan.  They scored 3 touchdowns and the commanders didn't score 1 single touchdown and the giants lose.  Lol I don't know if that's ever been done before.  Is there a site to look up these kind of stats.  It's beyond rediculous and if it wasn't for fantasy football I'd already be out of watching this season.  Waste of another Sunday properly done lol.

According to nbcsports, only the second time in history:

source: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/giants-are-second-team-in-nfl-history-to-score-3-tds-allow-0-tds-and-lose
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In today's 21-18 loss to the Commanders, the Giants scored three touchdowns, allowed zero touchdowns, and still lost the game. It was only the second time in NFL history that a team lost while scoring three touchdowns and allowing none. The only other time it happened was in 1989, when the Vikings beat the Rams 23-21.

I was wondering why the Giants were going for it so many times on fourth downs, turns out Gano was injured and they didn't have a backup kicker.
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The line did move to -8.5 over the past few days, then back to -9 just now, as I was placing my bet. Raiders blow this year, Ravens are at home and also something to consider is they lost their first game so they'll be out for blood.

Fuck. How embarrassing. Not just for me but for Baltimore and Lamar Jackson as well. Well, the upside is I won games in both my fantasy leagues (even with Jackson as QB and accidentally starting Mostert in my other league). I try to hedge my happiness by placing bets.

I didn't realize both the Bears and Texans won their first games. So what I wrote off as being a dud of a game was actually highly entertaining. Though I still don't care for either of their quarterbacks.

1st pick curse and Madden cover curse. This might be the beginning of continuous injuries for McCaffrey, I reckon. In any case, how is Eli Brady's Justin Jefferson pick?

That was exactly why I avoided him in my drafts... Though of course it always sucks to see a star sidelined, as too many have been already and we're not even finished with Week 2.
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1st pick curse and Madden cover curse. This might be the beginning of continuous injuries for McCaffrey, I reckon. In any case, how is Eli Brady's Justin Jefferson pick?
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Yeah it's brutal.  With that being said I've hit a new low as a giants fan.  They scored 3 touchdowns and the commanders didn't score 1 single touchdown and the giants lose.  Lol I don't know if that's ever been done before.  Is there a site to look up these kind of stats.  It's beyond rediculous and if it wasn't for fantasy football I'd already be out of watching this season.  Waste of another Sunday properly done lol.
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Eli-2 Brady-0 vs. Moon Coiners matchup was fun as a neutral on MNF.  Coiners were on the verge of making a dramatic comeback, fucking Jake Moody with 26 fantasy points outscoring everyone on both teams, including benches. G. Wilson's eight-yard rec in garbage time was the decider. I'm glad it wasn't me, it's too early in the season for heartbreak. Lol

The kicker being the best player on my team is quite telling isn't it LOL

It also says something about the overhyped niners (sorry Dire) kicking a bunch of 40+ yard field goals against the goddamn Jets.

This is why a lot of leagues have voted to do away with kickers (and some also doing away with defenses).  I personally remove kickers from the leagues I manage as I try and set leagues up in a manner where you remove as much luck from the game as possible.  Kickers tend to just score points on a lucky whim, not that there aren't good kickers whom score more often than others, but a lot of it is just luck based on the game script.  I have Dallas' kicker and dude dropped 21 pts ..not fair imo.

Hence my vote to remove kickers next year lol.  

I like that idea would have made last week a lot less stressful lol.  With that being said a couple notes about last nights game: Tua should retire.  In all honesty dudes brains are gonna be marbles in a couple years if he keeps taking  hits like that.  Obviously that cranium can't take hits like others can.  Second is achane is an absolute monster, and was a value anywhere after top 2.  Yeah I said it.  He will likely end up RB1 even without Tua.  Dude is sneaky quick and has sick vision.  Week 2..let's go!

DejaVu right, we had this exact discussion last year early on. Tua said this offseason he contemplated retirement. Absolutely no question he should hang it up. Hes already got CTE.  With so many brains having been studied now, lot easier to “know” for a good certainty. If I were him I would read the story of Vincent Jackson’s final weeks of his life over and over until I quit. I know you remember VJax Wheelz. Loved watching him at Raymond James when I lived in Tampa. Died in a hotel room down the street from his house where he was secluding himself he was so fd up. Died sitting up in a chair. Took cleaning staff a few days to realize he wasn’t sleeping. No fn thx.

Wheelz I respect your sports knowledge big time, but gotta go strongly against that take. IMO Achane had no shot at 1 overall even if Tua was healthy. Breece or Saquon my picks. My dark dark horse..JK Dobbins. Achane damn good tho and fast af.

Oh and wheelz wasn’t that you who brought up me drafting Chubb 1 overall last year in this years draft. Mf CMC “likely” to go on IR, hasn’t played a snap. I mean f me!   CMC going for the Jamaal Charles award of best RBs ever, easily HOF level players, who just can’t stay on the field. 😩


Yeah Jamal Charles, dam the Chiefs pumped out a lot of good "who are they" running backs back then..   agreed if he could just stay on the field.  Same with achane if he can stay on the field he is an automatic 20 points plus.  Now they are getting him into the passing game now.  Yeah breece was in my top 2, barkley is dead to me as a giants fan lol.  I can see achame ending up rb1-3 this year, again health is key.

And yeah man that Vincent Jackson story sucked.  It sucks but you habe to walk away.  Any hit can be that last one, just not worth it.  I hope he considers peacing out

IMO Charles is a top 10 RB anyhow , should be in HOF. FAR better than many RBs already there. guys like Emmitt Smith (you know he rushed over 5ypc in just ONE season).  I think CMC is HOF worthy too. Shouldn’t always just be about length feel like. Sayers got in, after all.

Shit man, Saquon didn’t do you dirty, your shit franchise did (I can say that because you know who my franchise is lol).

Fckn Yahoo (not you Yahoo, the other one lol ). Look how many times they emailed me to tell me my comment was rejected. 1 comment. The comment “drafted Chubb 1st last year, CMC this year, why does god hate me”

Reason 10k to leave next year.  I wonder id it’s possible to get banned. I’ll keep yall posted on that lol


Agreed.  Giants picked to pay jones instead of saquon, we could have resented with a new quarterback.  Now we are gonna have to do both.  And yeah agreed.  Not sure how cmc's future lands but if he can keep on the field for a bit more I can see him hitting the hall of fame. Crazy he went on the IR and not much coming from the San Fran camp on the injury at all.  1st pick curse is alive and real.
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