Topic: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 - page 76. (Read 48640 times)

I posted that before he scored, actually didn't expect him to after seeing the play calling.

Jags are beating up the Eagles pretty good, that is costing me.

Well, there goes my hope for the weekend LOL

Play on the New Orleans Mardi Gra beads?






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HOLY Shit 60 Yards Baby!!!





Hey, I just noticed all the 1-2 teams are playing 2-1 Teams this week!

Would be cool if it was all tied up at the end of the week!

I wake up early anyway, but in all honesty I was hoping the Manchester derby (Premier League Soccer) would be broadcast.  Nope, the NFL has a lot of clout with US TV providers, and I'm sure they don't want the broadcast competition.

Have you guys noticed all the fat gold-chains in stands?  Do people London think all Americans dress like Gangsta Rappers, lol?

Yeah, I woke up early and decided to stay up and watch the london game.

Grabbed Hill and threw him in for Kittle just for the chuckles and regretting it a little.

Bonus football today.  I kinda like these London games being on the east coast.  West coast US that's 630 in the morning a little early lol.  But for me there is football from 930am to 12pm.  Complete washout of a day on the east coast so perfect day for football

**Wanting to trade for RB**

I am absolutely stacked at WR. I could use an upgrade to my second RB.  Though I really like all my RBs and they have a ton of upside potential, I’m looking to move one of my WRs and RBs to someone who’s got an extra RB they’d be willing to trade that would be a slight upgrade to any of my RBs (outside Harris of course).  Someone like Aaron Jones for example is the type of back Im looking for.

Anyone interested please let me know



uhsra

The storyline of the month.



The Dolphins failed Tua Tagovailoa. Will any change come of it?

Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa left the game on a stretcher after his head was violently slammed into the ground on a sack by Bengals defensive tackle Josh Tupou in the second quarter. Tagovailoa was immediately taken to a nearby hospital. The whole scene was a nightmare.

The Dolphins immediately classified it as a head and neck injury. But the appropriate word is concussion, or more specifically, a traumatic brain injury. In case the force of the hit and the still body wasn’t indication enough, replays showed Tagovailoa fingers sprayed, almost as if he were trying to contort them.

What a sad reality how little the NFL does little to protect its players, the backbone of its brand. The NBA has started resting its stars and starters for periodic games in recent years. MLB, for all its issues, has trended toward limiting innings for its starting pitchers. While this may be due to analytics pointing to less effectiveness the third time through a batting order, less innings pitched is a net positive for arm health. The NFL, on the other hand, decided to add a 17th game because apparently the league needs more revenue streams.

Source https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/sep/30/tua-tagovailoa-miami-dolphins-concussion-head-injury



I am quite certain that the NFL commissioner will be forced to do something. He will declare that there will be an investigation, however, after this investigation there might only be a fine. A fine that the Miami Dolphins can pay easily, I reckon.

I almost became a fan because of Mike McDaniels.

This will be a turning point I think.  Poor kid was thrown out there to die.  No way with all the technology they didn't know he was concussion to begin with.  Any sign at all nfl is just going to have to shut them down for a long while.  Kid may never be right ever again and I'm not talking football I'm talking in life like you said.  I love football but not like this.  He should have NEVER been out there.

This is an unfortunate event not only for Tua, but for the NFL as a whole.

I don't give a shit if the kid ever plays football again.  There are far more important things in life, like being coherent enough to watch your children grow up, and teach them how to ride a bike.  If it turns out that the Dolphins knew of a head injury from Sunday's game, and then let him start on Thursday, heads (and a lot dollars) will roll.  I have no patience or tolerance for those who'll put productivity above human safety.  Nothing else matters.  Even if it turns out that the stumbling last Sunday was a result of a back injury, that is a dereliction of duty by the coaching staff.

We've all been injured before, and we all know of how an injury can cause us to change our mechanics when doing the simplest things.  Washing dishes can exacerbate a back injury, let alone being body slammed.

Unfortunately the culture of football also ingrains into the young men that injuries are a part of the game, and if you can't play through your injuries you're not tough enough.  This needs to change.  The other thing that needs to change is defenses specifically targeting injuries when tackling another player.  We saw this last Thursday night when Herbert was playing with sore ribs.  We even saw it a few plays before Tupou body-slammed Tua.  Tupou went for Tua's ankle, again targeting a specific area he knew was causing Tua trouble.  That's just bullshit and shouldn't be tolerated.  Defensive players who do that should be ejected from games, and possibly banned from the league.

Unfortunately these types of discussions have happened regularly for decades that I can remember.  I remember similar discussions when Joe Montana was suffering from back injuries when he still played for the Niners in the late 80's.  Whenever something tragic happens the topic is high on everyone's radar, but a few months later it's forgotten about.  I know the league has been making changes over time to combat injuries, specifically head injuries, but these changes seem to come slowly, if at all.

And deservedly so, maybe the Dolphins were just unlucky and Tua did in fact only had a back injury, but things are not looking good for them, they received criticism for playing Tua in a short week and then we saw what it happened, the tackle was clean without any malicious intention or excessive force, but the way Tua hit the ground immediately set a red alarm in my head and when I saw his hands I really felt sorry for the kid because it was obvious he was not OK.

I also noticed as @DireWolf14 mentioned that Tua did not gave a thumbs up, now this may seem like a useless sign, but he either could not do it or he was so out there he did not even knew what was happening, and neither of those two options is a good sign for Tua.

Prayers out to Tua. For selfish reasons this had so many negative effects for me fantasy football wise. I own Tua in our league (and others). Have Waddle in another league. The lack of the Dolphins pass attack meant less throwing for Burrow (whom I have in our league), which then means less love for Chase (whom I have in another league) etc etc.  It also ruined what was to be an epic game.

That said, safety is the number one priority here and by far.  The Dolphins claim that Tua absolutely did not have a concussion last game. So it’ll be very interesting to see how this plays out.

As someone who played football in to high school I can tell you that if I ever have a son, he will not be allowed to play. I always wonder how many concussions I had but never knew it. That Dr who discovered CTE also stated if you played something like just 3 years of tackle football your risk of suicide goes up by like 40% (or something crazy high like that).  It is in my opinion that tackle football should be banned until college. It’s just too dangerous (especially for developing brains). The issues we know of CTE injuries are just the high profiles ones that have come out/been exposed. God only knows how many lives in total CTE has destroyed (demaryius thomas and Vincent Jackson being two of the most recent high profile heartbreaking incidents).

I’m all for tackle football, it’s my favorite sport by far, but not until those playing fully understand the potential implications of it.  

Hopefully one day we will learn how to detect it before death. Like guys such as Antonio Brown, it’s quite obvious he has a serious case but we can’t say for sure until he dies.

Not much of a religious person, but prayers to Tua 🙏

Hope everything with Tua is okay going forward, it was really unfortunate play. The Dolphins lineman literally let go of his guy with Tua having so much space/time to throw, it was bad. Does anyone remember last season when Parham knocked his head unconscious and arms locked...scary stuff.

I watched Adam Schefter on Get Up this morning talking about the NFL concussion protocols and he basically said if a player exibits gross motor instability, what we saw with Tua on Sunday, he should not have been allowed to return to the game. It does not matter if he had concussion or not, it could be a spine aka back injury as well.

This is their conundrum, also New Englands TE murderer Hernandez was purported to be suffering from Brain trauma.

Aaron Hernandez suffered from most severe CTE ever found
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/aaron-hernandez-suffered-from-most-severe-cte-ever-found-in-a-person-his-age/2017/11/09/fa7cd204-c57b-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html

This is a great point, and I appreciate the war-like aspect for Good Ol American Football, but I wouldn't mind them tightening up the concussion protocol... the main problem is the doctors and other professionals hired to make those calls are probably incentivized to say, "Nah, he's fine, leave him in."

The most common of violent acts that were done by retired NFL players that were reported were domestic violence and it appears that there is also a correlation between head trauma and depression which might also have caused the violent outbursts.



Ex-NFL Player Zac Stacy was arrested on Nov. 18 and charged with aggravated battery and criminal mischief after a home surveillance video surfaced of him beating his partner, Kristin Evans.

Stacy is not an outlier, though. The NFL has long been plagued with incidents of players abusing their spouses or children. Since 2000, 134 players have been arrested for domestic violence and 15 for crimes relating to sexual assault, battery or solicitation, comprising 13% of all NFL arrests, according to a database by USA Today that tracks NFL arrests.
Intimate partner violence accounts for 15% of all violent crimes in the United States. For NFL players, domestic violence is the highest criminal charge at 55% of total arrests made.

Source https://chargerbulletin.com/the-prevalence-of-domestic-violence-in-the-nfl/



However, as fans, do we want the NFL to change the game and create new rules on tackles? I do not like to watch flag football with helmets heheheheheh.

Sad... Watching it happen live was very sad... to see his fingers awkwardly distended after getting thrown to the ground, and then Al Michaels reporting he was told it was a "neurological response to head trauma"... oof. This is terrible and not good for anybody who has a stake in or just enjoys the NFL.


Certainly... I remember what happened to Junior Seau and would classify that as a violent act.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Seau

@Hueristic. This is the beginning. There was a movie based on a true story about this with Will Smith. They say that some football players become violent because of some brain damage caused from head trauma. The NFL denied this.



If Tua takes the field tonight, it's a massive step back for #concussion care in the NFL.

If he has a 2nd concussion that destroys his season or career, everyone involved will be sued & should lose their jobs, coaches included. We all saw it, even they must know this isn't right

Source https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisnowinski1/status/1575578179581771776



In any case, if Tua is out for this whole season and this concussion negatively impacts his career. There might only be one choice for the Dolphins hehehe.

Gonna be alot of noise this week about not putting him in concussion protocol last week.

Don't forget to start a kicker!  Deja Vu?

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ETA:  That was an ugly hit on Tua, he looked like he was in agony.  Man, I hope the kid is okay, he didn't give a thumbs up while they were carting him out.  That's never a good sign.  He already had a back injury, that body slam could have some lingering and severe consequences.