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i decided to take the alt U39.5, just in case. Shit QBs playing on a short week with forecasted bad weather (wind gusts), i think we could see plenty of ground game...Chubb/Hunt could have a field day.

Well, you're up against the wire, there.  I'm rooting for you, hopefully the Browns can hold onto the current score.  Only six minutes left, lets go D!  I'm about to lose my bet one way or the other:



That wind is crazy, you can see the flags on the goalposts mostly horizontal.  It was funny watching that first field goal attempt start out looking perfect, then take a right turn.
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Looking at the remaining Thursday Night Football slate, there aren't many great matchups with the exception of maybe one or two games, Chargers/Chiefs was probably the best one.

How do you go from watching Mahomes and Herbert to Trubisky and Brissett? Grin  I mean, these two tonight are both in the bottom half of practically every QB stat category: completion %, YPG, QBR, etc.

PIT/CLE in Week 3 has the lowest O/U line at 37.5....i decided to take the alt U39.5, just in case. Shit QBs playing on a short week with forecasted bad weather (wind gusts), i think we could see plenty of ground game...Chubb/Hunt could have a field day.

Last week, someone asked where they can watch TNF games...if i'm not mistaken Amazon streams them for free on their Twitch channel still.
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Going to have to disagree with this.  Jimmy G is not a long term option.  They drafted Lance for a reason and they have not seen what they have in him yet.  

I'm not so sure that's the case, actually.  Garoppolo is only 30 years old which puts him about middle aged for a typical QB lifespan.  Most of the greats didn't start really coming into their own until their late twenties, early thirties.  Remember how Green Bay drafting Jordan Love seemed to light a fire under Rodgers' ass?  Maybe Shanahan didn't plan it that way, but imagine yourself in Garoppolo's predicament; losing your job to youngster would very likely motivate you to become the best version of yourself.  If nothing else, Garoppolo now knows he has nothing to lose when it comes to his longevity with the Niners, and can only cause management to reconsider their position.  Maybe he'll lose those 4th quarter jitters now that he knows only by taking risks can he overcome the perceptions of his limitations.

Admittedly, Garoppolo and Rodgers have starkly different personalities, so all the above may be nothing but wishful thinking.  But, I do wish Garoppolo would succeed, he's proven to be a winning quarterback, and other than his fragility and 4th quarter/Big Game jitters, there's really very little to complain about.

The Falcons are in desperate need for a QB and the upcoming draft has a decent crop of them, so as long as the Falcons suck like most expect them to, they will be drafting one.

I haven't really paid much attention to the Falcons since they're no longer in the NFC West Roll Eyes (remember that shit?), so I wasn't aware of their QB blues.  Unfortunately there aren't a bunch of good backups warming benches these days, so it looks like they're better served playing for the draft.

The problem is, that also doesn't say anything about the team's loyalty to the unproven QB. Granted Lance doesn't have a huge contract impacting the cap, so they'll probably keep him unless they have a very compelling offer, but I'm thinking that if a good opportunity comes up (draft or trade) they'd dump him in a heartbeat.

The same could be said about any team in the league.  Teams regularly ask productive players to restructure their salaries "for the benefit of the team" and if a player chooses not to, he's criticized as being out for himself.  Brady did that for decades in NE, but the minute he decided to get a semi-retirement job on the beach, decades of compromising were forgotten.  If the team decides to move on from a player it's the opposite, and justified simply by saying things like "it was a necessary business decision."  It's a sad commentary about the game, but that's the reality of it.

Atlanta was just the first horrible QB-less team that came to my mind, I'm sure there are other options, maybe Panthers or Texans Smiley

I doubt any team will trade for the kid, in all honesty.  He didn't have a lot of playing time in college, and so far he hasn't shown us much of his abilities in the NFL.  Now that he's injured, I really can't see any team offering a whole lot for him, and considering what the Niners have invested I don't see them settling for a low-ball offer.

But TBH I was just making fun of niners "blockbuster" trade to get Lance, and the QB-heavy 2021 draft in general. None of them set the NFL on fire, albeit most ended in shitty teams by design and it's still early.

That's the double edges sword of being an early draft pick; odds are you'll end up going to the shittiest team in the league (unless you're Eli Manning.)  

But the Niners deserve all the criticism they're getting for giving up so much for Lance.  To this day I don't believe he was Shanahan's first choice, despite the team's claims that Lance was the plan all along.  I think Mack Jones would have been a better choice, or they should have traded back once they realized they were misled by Robert Salah.  All indication were that Shanahan believed Salah wasn't going for a QB, and Kyle Mack would still have been available for the third pick.  Most people around here believe that's the only reason Shanahan traded the farm for that third pick in the first place.

Knowing Shanahan, he probably tried to trade back once he realized Mack was taken, but wasn't getting the offers he wanted.  I can just imagine him feeling like a shitcoin bag-holder after a dump once Salah took Mack.  In fact, I felt the same way.  Cry
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Going to have to disagree with this.  Jimmy G is not a long term option.  They drafted Lance for a reason and they have not seen what they have in him yet.  The Falcons are in desperate need for a QB and the upcoming draft has a decent crop of them, so as long as the Falcons suck like most expect them to, they will be drafting one.

Lance got hurt just like a lot of other players have throughout time, it really doesn't say anything about his toughness, injuries happen to even the most fit and durable players.

The problem is, that also doesn't say anything about the team's loyalty to the unproven QB. Granted Lance doesn't have a huge contract impacting the cap, so they'll probably keep him unless they have a very compelling offer, but I'm thinking that if a good opportunity comes up (draft or trade) they'd dump him in a heartbeat.

Atlanta was just the first horrible QB-less team that came to my mind, I'm sure there are other options, maybe Panthers or Texans Smiley

But TBH I was just making fun of niners "blockbuster" trade to get Lance, and the QB-heavy 2021 draft in general. None of them set the NFL on fire, albeit most ended in shitty teams by design and it's still early.
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Lance and Shanahan want to play a very physical form of football and the fact he got injured so soon after a play which looks like the hundreds we see every week should be a cause of concern, maybe the kid was unlucky but I do not like what it could mean for the long term prospects of Lance's carrer.

Niners will trade Lance to Atlanta for a high draft pick, and draft a new QB.

Just throwing it out there for a chance to say "I told you so" if any of this happens.

I agree with this. We cannot be certain where he might be traded, however. Who would be willing to trade for an overhyped, unimpressive rookie and now a presently broken quarterback?

In any case, when do we know if the players we picked from the waiver wire are approved or disapproved? Does the commissioner have control on who gets the player if more than one fantasy player picked the same player?

Going to have to disagree with this.  Jimmy G is not a long term option.  They drafted Lance for a reason and they have not seen what they have in him yet.  The Falcons are in desperate need for a QB and the upcoming draft has a decent crop of them, so as long as the Falcons suck like most expect them to, they will be drafting one.

Lance got hurt just like a lot of other players have throughout time, it really doesn't say anything about his toughness, injuries happen to even the most fit and durable players.
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Meh.
Okay, thank you. I honestly have not explored the whole Yahoo fantasy app. I also should stop talking about my planned waiver pick ups next time until I have the player in my team hehehe. My next opponent for week 3 is a strong one with the new MVP Josh Allen, Kupp and Saquon. I will certainly need some luck from the waiver wire hehehehe.

If you check the image suchmoon posted above you see the column that says "Waiver" with numbers between 1-10, this is the order in which players can get picked so if you are 1 you have priority over everyone else even if you all want the same player and so on and so forth and this changes each week as people pick up players.
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Okay, thank you. I honestly have not explored the whole Yahoo fantasy app. I also should stop talking about my planned waiver pick ups next time until I have the player in my team hehehe. My next opponent for week 3 is a strong one with the new MVP Josh Allen, Kupp and Saquon. I will certainly need some luck from the waiver wire hehehehe.
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In any case, when do we know if the players we picked from the waiver wire are approved or disapproved? Does the commissioner have control on who gets the player if more than one fantasy player picked the same player?

Waiver order defines who gets it first - see Waiver column below. For example I could get any player I want because I have waiver #1 now. Except there is nothing to pick but I digress. Waiver order resets after you get your pick - you drop to the end of the line.

I think it gets resolved after midnight Wednesday morning, not sure which time zone.

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Lance and Shanahan want to play a very physical form of football and the fact he got injured so soon after a play which looks like the hundreds we see every week should be a cause of concern, maybe the kid was unlucky but I do not like what it could mean for the long term prospects of Lance's carrer.

Niners will trade Lance to Atlanta for a high draft pick, and draft a new QB.

Just throwing it out there for a chance to say "I told you so" if any of this happens.

I agree with this. We cannot be certain where he might be traded, however. Who would be willing to trade for an overhyped, unimpressive rookie and now a presently broken quarterback?

In any case, when do we know if the players we picked from the waiver wire are approved or disapproved? Does the commissioner have control on who gets the player if more than one fantasy player picked the same player?
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This worries me, I remember that when Garoppolo was at NE he got injured when he replaced Brady and I just thought it was bad luck, but then when the four game suspension came and he got injured again in a regular football play I immediately thought he was too frail.

Well, he's been here for four full years, and only played all 16 games in only two of them.  I'd say I have to agree with the assessment of "frail."  It is concerning, but again, if he can stay healthy I think we have a better chance at making the playoffs than we had with the kid.

Lance and Shanahan want to play a very physical form of football and the fact he got injured so soon after a play which looks like the hundreds we see every week should be a cause of concern, maybe the kid was unlucky but I do not like what it could mean for the long term prospects of Lance's carrer.

Shanahan wants an O-Line like the Patriots, and QB like Mahomes.  Unfortunately, Lance seems to have the same build as Mahomes, but not the same ability, nor the experience.  Maybe he'll come back and make me wrong, at least I hope so.


Niners will trade Lance to Atlanta for a high draft pick, and draft a new QB.
Just throwing it out there for a chance to say "I told you so" if any of this happens.

Quoted for reference.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Lance and Shanahan want to play a very physical form of football and the fact he got injured so soon after a play which looks like the hundreds we see every week should be a cause of concern, maybe the kid was unlucky but I do not like what it could mean for the long term prospects of Lance's carrer.

Niners will trade Lance to Atlanta for a high draft pick, and draft a new QB.

Just throwing it out there for a chance to say "I told you so" if any of this happens.
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Not sure if you've heard the news, Lance's ankle is broken, he'll be going in for surgery tomorrow, and will miss the remainder of the season.

This is exactly why I don't like it when coaches priorities running ability when evaluating QBs.  I understand that Shanahan has a lot of tricky ticks he wants to run (literally) with a quarterback, but if any risk a broken ankle, they should be thrown out.
This worries me, I remember that when Garoppolo was at NE he got injured when he replaced Brady and I just thought it was bad luck, but then when the four game suspension came and he got injured again in a regular football play I immediately thought he was too frail.

Lance and Shanahan want to play a very physical form of football and the fact he got injured so soon after a play which looks like the hundreds we see every week should be a cause of concern, maybe the kid was unlucky but I do not like what it could mean for the long term prospects of Lance's carrer.



Looking at the stats from Week 1 and Week 2, Cows Reloaded had to face J. Allen and S. Barkley's crazy performances and when you thought it can't get any worse, then there's Lamar + T. Hill this week...it's like you don't even have a chance, quite unfortunate...but it's part of the game i guess.
Technically there was a slight improvement, @nutildah scored 171.48 Points on the Q/Cows Reloaded while @bbc.reporter only scored 171.32 Points, maybe next week @Hhampuz will only score 170 Points or something.  Tongue
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Well, it looks like Josh Allen has you covered; 4 TDs and 317 yards after three quarters.  I wonder if he'll play anymore, this one just needs the fork.

This was almost the case but the stomping was so bad they took him out.

And whats funny is Tannehill was doing so bad, they took him out. 2 big INTs, one for a pick 6.

Buffalo D did a great job of stopping Henry, as well.

Yeah the fact that the Bills were kicking the shit out of the Titans ended up being a bad thing for my game versus hhampuz.  I have Diggs who was obviously going off, and the fact that they got up so big pretty much ended his chance for getting more points.

They did do an amazing job of keeping Henry in check.  The Bills are the real deal.  I would have to agree with bbc at this point and say that the Bills are hands down the best team in the NFL at this point.  Just image if they had a legitimate running back.
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Well, it looks like Josh Allen has you covered; 4 TDs and 317 yards after three quarters.  I wonder if he'll play anymore, this one just needs the fork.

This was almost the case but the stomping was so bad they took him out.

And whats funny is Tannehill was doing so bad, they took him out. 2 big INTs, one for a pick 6.

Buffalo D did a great job of stopping Henry, as well.
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Gabe Davis seems to be out.
Yahoo today: DaVIs wAs NoT eXpeCTeD tO PLaY oN mOnDAy NIgHt.

Well, it looks like Josh Allen has you covered; 4 TDs and 317 yards after three quarters.  I wonder if he'll play anymore, this one just needs the fork.

That's got to be embarrassing for the Titans after taking the top seed last year.  Losing to the Giants last week had to hurt, but at least that was a close game (and the Giants are better than they look on paper.)  But even at the hands of a top team, getting spanked like this should be a wakeup call.

In the other game, Minnesota is stinking it up pretty bad too, but at least the score isn't insurmountable.
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Meh.
Gabe Davis seems to be out.

Yahoo yesterday: G. Davis is projected to get 13.6 points.

Yahoo today: DaVIs wAs NoT eXpeCTeD tO PLaY oN mOnDAy NIgHt.

I know its on me to keep up with the reality of the situation. Oh well. Bah.

Always tough with Monday night games and if you have players you rely on playing in them, tough decisions week in and week out but that one was called late so I feel for you :/
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Gabe Davis seems to be out.

Yahoo yesterday: G. Davis is projected to get 13.6 points.

Yahoo today: DaVIs wAs NoT eXpeCTeD tO PLaY oN mOnDAy NIgHt.

I know its on me to keep up with the reality of the situation. Oh well. Bah.
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I'm getting spanked bigly. I mean WTF, 26 points for defense, who does that LOL. And then this Green Bay guy running and catching and running. Oh well. Congrats DireWolfM14.

Yeah join the club, Hhampuz kicked my ass this week. Despite having a few big time players on my team going tonight, I have absolutely no chance in forging a comeback.

FYI to @everyone, if you’re interested in or have a need for a Quarterback, I’m considering putting Tua on the trade block. I could use an upgrade at my second RB position so I may be willing to pair Tua and a RB for an upgraded RB.
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Bombay Bengals vs. Eli-2 Brady-0 looks to be the one to watch today, projections are close. J. Jefferson vs. half of the Bills roster.

Gabe Davis seems to be out.

Yeah I think I lucked out there.  Still need Jefferson to post something like a 7 catches /100 yards and a td to be comfy.  Allen can go bananas and Knox should pick up some of gabes targets.  Hoping for a defensive first game and an offensive second game.  Grin
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Bombay Bengals vs. Eli-2 Brady-0 looks to be the one to watch today, projections are close. J. Jefferson vs. half of the Bills roster.

Gabe Davis seems to be out.
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